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Another extra wrinkle tonight is that a lot of these guys are fighting outside of their natural class, up and down. Size is a big enough factor at this level that it is really hard to see where the advantages are and how each of them handled the cut or lack of one.
Seriously? I never get the love for this guy. Everyone talks about how exciting he is. All he does is dance around like a fool and either try to dry hump you or run away.
Through the first 3 rounds I wasn't even sure if either guy landed a punch.
Your Hate for Diaz is clouding your vision on this. Guida and Condit moved almost exactly the same. Condit did land a lot more counter shots than Guida did, but still not a fight anyone wants to see. pointfighting sucks.
Link to Condit turning tail and running and getting warned by the ref?
lot of variables, big one is the "UFC jitters" in front of huge, loud crowd for the first time for quite a few of these guys
Your last point about the judges made me cut my bet in half last night, so it isn't a big risk anymore. I still think Franklin wins, but it is a safer bet if he doesn't win. Also have money on Dias +220, Moraes +220, Viera +130. Only going with dogs on this show if i am betting anybody. Contemplated taking Rodrigo Damm at -200, but not sure
Someone else may have posted this here before. But note to self, never get in an elevator with a Brazilian.
A pal of mine who is a degen really likes Russow tonight at +400. Not knowing a whole lot about UFC, what do you all think of this call?
At those odds worth a shot, that's the play I'm making. Russow is very unlikely to be stopped so he is going to have a puncher's chance the whole 15 minutes. He has a pretty decent hammerfist on the ground and has a wrestling advantage. On paper Werdum should be able to submit him on the mat in a hurry but Russow is the kind of guy that just plods along, turtle juggernaut style.He is a part-time fighter who fights once a year facing a top #5 Heavyweight in the World. It is what it is, but real line should be like +270.
Funny - My wife and I were talking about how the two fights were similar but different where it mattered. We both agreed that Condit at least engaged Diaz and hit him. I am usually a big Guida fan, but this fight was bs the way he just ran away the whole time.
That perpatuo is a solid fighter imo
He used to fight at LHW. The other guy is a regular 170 lber and fought Leonard Garcia style. He might have a little success as like a 185 lb Kingsbury type, I'm pretty skeptical though.
Down to +350... Got to like that.
Good call...Got on this healthy..That guy is awesome. Great takedown defense and some heavy hands. Jesus.
Russow is like one of the last links to MMA roots in America. A guy that goes to work every morning and beats ### against the best fighters in the world when he has to.
Best part is that this fight was at 185. Drinaldo usually fights at 155. He could be a force in that division.
He fought up 30 lbs?I dont know how all that works. How can someone gain all that weight and stay fit then cut it all back to get to 155 for his next fight?
They only had 185 lb and 145 lb divisions on the show. He was way too big to cut to 145 so he had to compete up if he wanted in. Usually a fighter can cut about 10% of their walking weight in camp and another 10% for the weigh in.ETA: To be fair Helano usually fights at 170. Drinaldo was able to hold his own in the clinch with Perpultulo for a while on the show, a fighter who is capable at 205. That is crazy strength.
Ok, maybe I do like this card. At least we are getting some good action.I doubt anyone orders this card, but the main event has a chance to be epic with this crowd if Silva's chin holds up, maybe even more epic if it doesn't. One thing about it this crowd is going to be so loud that Franklin won't dare spending much time looking for takedowns.ETA: I was a bit pessimistic but the UFC is also getting a good influx of talent here. Much more so than the American Ultimate Fighters. Alacarta vs Dias has potential to be a fantastic fight. Very good talent on display here.
First one I have ordered in about a year.
I doubt anyone orders this card, but the main event has a chance to be epic with this crowd if Silva's chin holds up, maybe even more epic if it does. One thing about it this crowd is going to be so loud that Franklin won't dare spending much time looking for takedowns.
ETA: I was a bit pessimistic but the UFC is also getting a good influx of talent here. Much more so than the American Ultimate Fighters. Alacarta vs Dias has potential to be a fantastic fight. Very good talent on display here.
I can't believe they didn't make this card free. I bet it doesn't do 150,000 buys, which is probably a 5 year low for the UFC. I'm not saying anything against the quality of the fights, and the crowd experience makes it even more fun to watch from home. I think I forgot that I got goosebumps when they went nuts for Vitor with the stereo cranked.First one I have ordered in about a year.
I doubt anyone orders this card, but the main event has a chance to be epic with this crowd if Silva's chin holds up, maybe even more epic if it does. One thing about it this crowd is going to be so loud that Franklin won't dare spending much time looking for takedowns.
ETA: I was a bit pessimistic but the UFC is also getting a good influx of talent here. Much more so than the American Ultimate Fighters. Alacarta vs Dias has potential to be a fantastic fight. Very good talent on display here.
Ya, that was ugly.What are we doing for the next one?
Great moment.
