Ultimate Survivor - Leg 1 - League 4 (1 Viewer)

[Lash]

League 4 - Wednesday, July 23rd - 10:00 PM Eastern (1 spot left)

Staff entrants: Jene Bramel, John Norton

Message Board Entrants: by_the_sea_wannabe, bostonfred, Lash, Busman, bagger, Pictus Cat, Usual21, bucki4life, Raider Nation

PPR (NFFC rules, 3RR, KDS - 0.5. 1, 1)

Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Best Ball

3 questions:

1) START TIME I posted before we were full because i am starting to get worried about a drastic time change as i have seen other threads going up and the participants getting together and changing times

i picked this league BECAUSE of the time which i thought that was pretty much set until i saw these other threads

i can possibly start one hour earlier at 9pm est but any earlier and i'd be AFK until that time, is everyone okay with that?

2) 3RR Seem to remember some confusion over the acronyms '3RR' and '3RS' with the NFFC calling theirs by the wrong acronym last year - so in short are we talking about the regular 3RR or NFFC 3RR? or less confusing are we drafting where the entire serpentine order is reversed in round three (1-12,12-1,12-1,1-12,12-1) or are we drafting where JUST the 3rd round is reversed (1-12,12-1,12-1,12-1,1-12) ? probably just confused everyone more sorry

3) KDS who and when do we send our preferred draft order list to?

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

9 would be an improvement - was hoping for like 5

 

[Pictus Cat]

I could work with 9.

5

 

[Jene Bramel]

Dodds will confirm the 3RR and KDS process before the draft, but I'm 99% certain that the 3RR is a change in the third round only -- 1-12, 12-1, 12-1, 1-12, 12-1, etc -- and the KDS process will happen shortly before the draft (either immediately before or within a couple of days before the draft).

Lash -- the draft time will not change unless everyone is in agreement. If 9pm (or whenever) works for everyone, then we'll change. If not, 10pm ET it is.

Looking forward to this.

 

[Lash]

Dodds will confirm the 3RR and KDS process before the draft, but I'm 99% certain that the 3RR is a change in the third round only -- 1-12, 12-1, 12-1, 1-12, 12-1, etc -- and the KDS process will happen shortly before the draft (either immediately before or within a couple of days before the draft).Lash -- the draft time will not change unless everyone is in agreement. If 9pm (or whenever) works for everyone, then we'll change. If not, 10pm ET it is.Looking forward to this.

thanks Jene, was doing more forum searching and i found two more terms Bonzai and Flip methods referring to 3RR and 3RS, i wish at least on FBG website we could come to a consensus nickname for these alternate drafting formats

 

[David Dodds]

yes the terms are a bit confusing, but this will be done the way the NFFC does it. 1-12, 12-1, 12-1, 1-12, 12-1, 1-12 where the third round reverses and then it's serpentine the rest of the way.

Once Clayton has all your emails, he will contact all of you and request your choices for draft slots (KDS).

 

[Gatorman]

Careful Bagger, Boston Fred likes to cheat.

 

[Raider Nation]

I'm going to give 100%. My back is against the wall. I'm gonna take it one week at a time.

And I'd like to thank God for my inevitable victory in this league.

 

[BusMan]

This is gonna be fun.

 

[Lash]

ok, i just got the email that i was chosen first in Kentucky Derby lottery

gimme draft slot #2 so i don't have to make the big decision LOL

just kidding no email received

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

ok, i just got the email that i was chosen first in Kentucky Derby lotterygimme draft slot #2 so i don't have to make the big decision LOLjust kidding no email received

You are a weired one aren't ya?

 

[Raider Nation]

Rules of the NFFC format for our league, spelled out a little more clearly in case anyone was wondering:

http://www.fantasyfootballchampionship.com/rules2008.asp

 

[fake_15]

Looks like I'm the last one in. I'm all up for moving the time back to 9ET if everyone else agrees. I'm gonna have to brush up on these rules.

 

[Raider Nation]

9:00 would be fine for me also.

 

[Jene Bramel]

I'll put a poll on the website when Clayton fires it up to determine the earliest everyone can draft. We'll go with the latest earliest poll vote -- so to speak.

Again, no one is under any obligation or pressure to move the draft time up for others. However, if you all drag the later rounds of the draft to dawn EDT, there's no guarantee Clayton will be awake enough to heckle your picks.

 

[BusMan]

9:00 ET works for me as well. I'll be sure to vote in the poll additionally.

 

[Pictus Cat]

League 4

Participants (Dice Roll)

Bagger - need an e-mail

bostonfred - need an e-mail

bucki4life -

BusMan -

by_the_sea_wannabe -

Fake_15 -

Jene Bramel -

John Norton -

Lash -

Pictus Cat -

Raider Nation -

Usual21 -

Order

If I needed to pick a league to have my back,I think it would be this one.

When does anyone think we will have all the emails in and draft picks announced?

 

[Jene Bramel]

First, Lash, can you shrink the longest line in your sig to bring our browser windows back to normal.

Clayton will do the dice rolls pretty soon after he receives emails from everyone. Depending on how quickly we respond with our KDS preferences, we could have an order by tomorrow or not until next week.

 

[Lash]

First, Lash, can you shrink the longest line in your sig to bring our browser windows back to normal.

Clayton will do the dice rolls pretty soon after he receives emails from everyone. Depending on how quickly we respond with our KDS preferences, we could have an order by tomorrow or not until next week.

coachlarue@yahoo.com (i PM'd Clayton but posting it here too just in case)and sig should be fixed

 

[Lash]

or am i confused, does he need us to send and email with our order to him?

or does he just need our address right now?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

or am i confused, does he need us to send and email with our order to him?or does he just need our address right now?

He just needs your email address.

 

[Jene Bramel]

or am i confused, does he need us to send and email with our order to him?or does he just need our address right now?

If the post in the draft order thread is correct, he's got your address already, so you can delete it here. He'll send out instructions for the KDS process after the rolls are complete. Waiting on bagger and BF emails for the dice rolls, it looks like.And thanks for shortening the sig line.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Any chance he just rolls an order,

and then we select in that order what pick we want?

We might be able to start getting this done.

Are all the emails in?

How long do we wait?

 

[bucki4life]

9pm would be fine with me as well as long as everyone is on board.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Any chance he just rolls an order,and then we select in that order what pick we want?We might be able to start getting this done.Are all the emails in?How long do we wait?

Clayton needs the emails so we can copy you on the dice rolls. Not that there'd ever be any funny business, but this assures that everything is on the level.I would imagine that Clayton has a stop date in place. If he doesn't get contact information by that date, he'll move on to an alternate plan.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Dice rolls are happening now.

 

[Lash]

yeah just got my email verification, hope low is good LOL

 

[fake_15]

Order

1. Bagger - 901

2. by_the_sea_wannabe - 888

3. John Norton - 728

4. Pictus Cat - 684

5. BusMan - 567

6. Fake_15 - 487

7. Usual21 - 477

8. bucki4life - 473

9. Jene Bramel - 386

10. Lash - 280

11. Raider Nation - 273

12. bostonfred - 40

 

[Jene Bramel]

yeah just got my email verification, hope low is good LOL

It isn't. You can join me in the bottom quarter. Unless Clayton wants to lowball everybody.

 

[BusMan]

Are we KDSing in here? Or via e-mail?

 

[Jene Bramel]

Are we KDSing in here? Or via e-mail?

Waiting for instructions.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Are we KDSing in here? Or via e-mail?

Waiting for instructions.

How about we draft our pick in this thread?Bagger would be up.

 

[Lash]

yes it seems the other leagues all know their order, maybe we are forgotten since we are the only league with two steps in determining order

 

[BusMan]

I'm down for whatever.

 

[Clayton Gray]

Are we KDSing in here?

Sure. That can be done in here.

 

[John Mamula]

1. 9PM ET is fine

2. Thanks for the clarification.

3. i have no idea what KDS is.

if you're telling us we get to choose our draft slot then i guess i can go first?

 

[John Mamula]

is there a link for ALL the scoring rules for NFFC?

i'm going to need that before I make my draft slot pick.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Lets draft a slot by order now.

PM the next guy after you pick your slot.

If you want to send a KDS list before you're up,

may I recommend contest organizer Clayton Gray (not in our league and official)

ORDER

1. Bagger - 901

2. by_the_sea_wannabe - 888

3. John Norton - 728

4. Pictus Cat - 684

5. BusMan - 567

6. Fake_15 - 487

7. Usual21 - 477

8. bucki4life - 473

9. Jene Bramel - 386

10. Lash - 280

11. Raider Nation - 273

12. bostonfred - 40

Baggers up. What pick do you want?

If we want to wait for a staffer to make this process official contest approved, that's understandable.

Seems Clayton did that when he said we could post in this thread.

 

[Pictus Cat]

#1 League 4 Contest Link

League 4 - Wednesday, July 23rd - 10:00 PM Eastern (league is full)

Staff entrants: Jene Bramel, John Norton

Message Board Entrants: by_the_sea_wannabe, bostonfred, Lash, Busman, bagger, Pictus Cat, Usual21, bucki4life, Raider Nation, fake_15

PPR (NFFC rules, 3RR, KDS - 0.5. 1, 1)

Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Best Ball

#2 NFFC link

5. Starting Lineup Requirements: Starting lineups will consist of:

1 Quarterback

2 Running Backs

3 Wide Receivers

1 Tight End

1 Flex Player (RB, WR or TE)

1 Kicker

1 Team Defense/Specials Team

(If no Week One lineup is submitted, the NFFC will determine your starting lineup. After Week One, if no starting lineup is submitted, your starting lineup will be that of the previous week.)

6. Scoring: Players can accumulate points in a number of ways:

PASSING:

.05 points for every yard passing (works out to 1 point every 20 yards).

6 points for every passing touchdown

2 points for every 2-Point conversion

minus 1 point for every interception and lost fumble

RUSHING:

.10 points for every yard rushing (works out to 1 point every 10 yards).

6 points for every rushing TD

2 points for every 2-Point conversion

minus 1 point for every lost fumble

6 points for a recovered offensive fumble for a touchdown (RB, QB, WR, TE)

RECEIVING:

.10 points for every yard receiving (works out to 1 point every 10 yards).

6 points for every receiving TD

1 point for every reception for WRs, Tight Ends and QBs

0.5 points for every reception for RBs

2 points for every 2-Point conversion

minus 1 point for every lost fumble

KICKING:

1 point for every extra point

3 points for every field goal from 1-30 yards

3 points for every field goal plus .10 points for every yard after 30 yards (i.e. a 47-yard field goal would be worth 4.7 points)

DEFENSE/SPECIAL TEAMS:

1 point for every sack

2 points for every interception or opponents' fumble recovery

6 points for every touchdown (interception return, defensive fumble return, punt or kickoff return, blocked field goal return, blocked punt return). All special teams and defensive points are awarded to the team responsible, not the individual player. Should a kicker, punter or field goal holder throw a pass off a fake attempt, however, the offensive output for that offensive play would go towards the individual player, not the special teams. Also, any lost fumble or "muff" on a specials team play does not result in negative points for that individual player.

2 points for every safety

12 points for a shutout by the entire team

8 points for allowing 2-7 points by the entire team

4 points for allowing 8-12 points by the entire team

2 points for allowing 13-17 points by the entire team

#3 Dodds "Ultimate" Thread Link

Note: This post is a work in progress. It will include links to the contests, players selected, etc as that is warranted....David.

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"Ultimate Survivor" will consist of 12 different 12-team leagues to start (144 players). Leg 1 Drafts/Auctions will take place from Sunday, July 20th through Saturday, August 2nd.

These twelve leagues will all compete for the first five weeks of the NFL season. At the end of those five weeks, the top 4 teams in each league will advance to round two of the competition.

Between weeks 5 and 6 of the NFL season, the 48 people advancing will compete in 4 new 12-team leagues (Leg 2). These leagues will span 5 weeks as well and all be performance/PPR leagues (with different scoring rules though) and will be a Best Ball format. Draft dates/times as well as league rules for leg 2 leagues will be determined at a later time.

Leg 3 (Final 12 people) will draft after week 10 and before week 11. This league will span 6 weeks and will be a PPR league. Draft dates/times as well as league rules will be determined at a later time.

There are 7 Ways to get a message board entry into this contest:

Keep contributing quality posts in the Shark Pool. 30 spots will be chosen on July 11th by staff to compete in this contest.
Compete in the "fake" email contest and post it in this thread: Fake Email Contest. We will select the 25 best entries on July 10th. (Note: We will close the link at midnight ET on July 9th)
Compete in the Limerick contest in this thread: Limerick Contest. We will select the 25 best entries on July 9th. (Note: We will close the link at midnight ET on July 8th)
Compete in Caption this photo #1. It can be found at this link: Caption This Photo #1. We will select the 10 best entries related to this photo on July 9th. (Note: We will close the link at midnight ET on July 8th)
Compete in Caption this photo #2. It can be found at this link: Caption This Photo #2. We will select the 10 best entries related to this photo on July 9th. (Note: We will close the link at midnight ET on July 8th)
Compete in Caption this photo #3. It can be found at this link: Caption This Photo #3. We will select the 10 best entries related to this photo on July 9th. (Note: We will close the link at midnight ET on July 8th)
Compete in Caption this photo #4. It can be found at this link: Caption This Photo #4. We will select the 10 best entries related to this photo on July 9th. (Note: We will close the link at midnight ET on July 8th)Link to Results

Upon selection as an entrant into the contest, a person will sign up for a draft/time slot that fits their schedule.

Prizes will be awarded to the top 12 as follows:

1st prize: Lifetime subscription, FBG Hoodie, FBG hat, FBG duffle bag, FBG shirt + $500 cash

2nd prize: 3 year subscription, FBG Hoodie + FBG hat + $250 cash

3rd prize: 3 year subscription, FBG T-shirt, + $150 cash

4th prize: 3 year subscription + FBG T-shirt + $100 cash

5th - 12th prizes: 1 year subscription and choice of FBG shirt or hat

Both staff and message board members are eligible for these prizes.

Leg 1 Details:

These leagues will be a combination of Best ball and Survivor (ie no transactions). The Survivor leagues will vote off 2,1,2,1,2 in their five weeks (to get to 4 teams). Best ball will be cumulative record against the other teams.

Owners will not submit lineups. The best available lineup will be scored from your entire roster of players based on the starting requirements as defined.

Each league will have 2 staff and 10 message board entries.

The following will apply to all drafts:

- Drafts will be conducted on MyFantasyLeague.com. Auctions will be completed on FantasyAuctioner.com

- Drafts/Auctions will be 22 rounds

- Draft position will be random using Irony Dice Roll Server once the league is filled.

- There are no positional restrictions during the draft.

The leagues draft days/times will be as follows:

League 1 - Sunday, July 20th - 9:30 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: Bob Henry, Anthony Borbely

PPR (WCOFF rules, 1/1/1)

Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Best Ball

League 2 - Monday, July 21st - 10:30 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: Will Grant, Chris Smith

Performance (6 pt all TDs, 1/20, 1/10)

Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Survivor

League 3 - Tuesday, July 22nd - 8:30 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: David Dodds, Maurile Tremblay

Auction/Perf (4 pt pass TDs, 6 pt rush/receive TDs, 1/20, 1/10)

Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Best Ball

League 4 - Wednesday, July 23rd - 10:00 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: Jene Bramel, John Norton

PPR (NFFC rules, 3RR, KDS - 0.5. 1, 1)

Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Best Ball

League 5 – Thursday, July 24th - 9:30 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: Joe Bryant, David Baker

Basic scoring (TDs only)

Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Survivor

League 6 – Saturday, July 26 - 10:00 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: David Yudkin, Marc Levin

Perf (4 pt pass TDs, 6 pt rush/receive TDs, 1/25, 1/10)

Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Survivor

League 7 – Sunday, July 27th - 10:30 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: Jason Wood, Clayton Gray

PPR (4 pt pass TDs, 6 pt rush/receive TDs, 1/20, 1/10, 1 PPR)

Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Best Ball

League 8 – Monday, July 28 - 9:00 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: Marc Faletti, TBD

Performance (6 pt all TDs, 1/25, 1/10)

Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def

Survivor

League 9 – Tuesday, July 29th - 9:30 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: Jeff Haseley, Mark Wimer

PPR (4 pt pass TDs, 6 pt rush/receive TDs, 1/20, 1/10, 0.5/1/1.5 PPR)

Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Best Ball

League 10 – Wednesday, July 30th - 10:00 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: Colin Dowling, Aaron Rudnicki

Performance (4 pt pass TDs, 6 pt rush/receive TDs, 1/20, 1/10)

Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Best Ball

League 11 – Thursday, July 31st - 8:30 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: Jeff Tefertiller, Mike Herman

Performance (4pt TDs, 1/20, 1/10)

Start 1 QB, 1RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Survivor

League 12 – Saturday, August 2nd – 10:30 PM Eastern

Staff entrants: Andy Hicks, Jeff Pasquino

Auction/PPR (4 pt pass TDs, 6 pt rush/receive TDs, 1/20, 1/10, PPR)

Start 1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 PK, 1 Def

Best Ball

Scoring Rules for Defense/ST:

Basic League:

Sack - 1 point

Fumble Recovery - 2 points

INT - 2 points

TD scored - 6 points

Performance/PPR Leagues:

Sack - 1 point

Fumble Recovery - 2 points

INT - 2 points

TD scored - 6 points

Points scored against:

0 = 10 points

2-9 = 5 points

10-19 = 3 points

20-29 = 1 point

30+ = 0 points

 

[Jene Bramel]

1. 9PM ET is fine2. Thanks for the clarification.3. i have no idea what KDS is.if you're telling us we get to choose our draft slot then i guess i can go first?

KDS = Kentucky Derby Seeding.Highest roll gets first choice of draft slots. Draft slot choices proceed through the list by next highest roll until BF gets stuck with whatever's left.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

, but I'm 99% certain that the 3RR is a change in the third round only -- 1-12, 12-1, 12-1, 1-12, 12-1, etc --

Uhhh... what you have listed flips every single round from the third round till the end on. 3RR.Banzai ONLY flips the third of a serpentine. Every other round remains the same.

 

[Pictus Cat]

, but I'm 99% certain that the 3RR is a change in the third round only -- 1-12, 12-1, 12-1, 1-12, 12-1, etc --

Uhhh... what you have listed flips every single round from the third round till the end on. 3RR.Banzai ONLY flips the third of a serpentine. Every other round remains the same.

addressed in post #6 by Doddsyes the terms are a bit confusing, but this will be done the way the NFFC does it. 1-12, 12-1, 12-1, 1-12, 12-1, 1-12 where the third round reverses and then it's serpentine the rest of the way.

 

[John Mamula]

i'll take pick #10 (ten)

 

[Pictus Cat]

i'll take pick #10 (ten)

first pick

sent pm to Norton

1. Bagger - 901 10th pick2. by_the_sea_wannabe - 888 1st pick

3. John Norton - 728

4. Pictus Cat - 684

5. BusMan - 567

6. Fake_15 - 487

7. Usual21 - 477

8. bucki4life - 473

9. Jene Bramel - 386

10. Lash - 280

11. Raider Nation - 273

12. bostonfred - 40

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

first pick

sent pm to Norton

 

[BigSteelThrill]

, but I'm 99% certain that the 3RR is a change in the third round only -- 1-12, 12-1, 12-1, 1-12, 12-1, etc --

Uhhh... what you have listed flips every single round from the third round till the end on. 3RR.Banzai ONLY flips the third of a serpentine. Every other round remains the same.

addressed in post #6 by Doddsyes the terms are a bit confusing, but this will be done the way the NFFC does it. 1-12, 12-1, 12-1, 1-12, 12-1, 1-12 where the third round reverses and then it's serpentine the rest of the way.

I just wanted the clarity of "only one round is changed" to be applied appropriately to the Banzai Method...It has 1 simple change. Thats it. One.

3RR takes in a change for every round from the third on.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Linked in Dodds original "Ultimate" thread in NFFC post #39 above,

which had additional information.

 

[Pictus Cat]

i'll take pick #10 (ten)

first pick

sent pm to Norton

1. Bagger - 901 10th pick2. by_the_sea_wannabe - 888 1st pick

3. John Norton - 728

4. Pictus Cat - 684

5. BusMan - 567

6. Fake_15 - 487

7. Usual21 - 477

8. bucki4life - 473

9. Jene Bramel - 386

10. Lash - 280

11. Raider Nation - 273

12. bostonfred - 40

Anybody know this Norton kid and how to get a hold of him to pick his slot? bumping to the first page

 

[fake_15]

i'll take pick #10 (ten)

first pick

sent pm to Norton

1. Bagger - 901 10th pick2. by_the_sea_wannabe - 888 1st pick

3. John Norton - 728

4. Pictus Cat - 684

5. BusMan - 567

6. Fake_15 - 487

7. Usual21 - 477

8. bucki4life - 473

9. Jene Bramel - 386

10. Lash - 280

11. Raider Nation - 273

12. bostonfred - 40

Anybody know this Norton kid and how to get a hold of him to pick his slot? bumping to the first page

He's staff, think he'd be around.

 

[Lash]

bumping for norton