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Sea Bass said:
E. Burks
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:shrug: I met him at the Providence Marriott when he was playing for the Sox. Probably '91. I was a DJ in the hotel's club.Super chill dude. I told him I enjoyed watching him play, and he says "Man, I wanna play shortstop!"Me: :confused: Ellis: "Shortstop. I used to be a shortstop when I was growing up. I want to play there again."Caught me off guard, but it was funny. He was more than half in the bag, as you might have guessed.
 
Musial and Josh Gibson are the first two to come to mind.

Luis Tiant is a guy I like along with Wahoo Sam Crawford who many Tigers fans don't even know, Jimmy Foxx as one of the best hitters ever, and Ed Walsh as one of the greatest pitchers ever.

 
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Doctor Detroit said:
Ted Simmons
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That's a good one. 2472 H, 1389 RBI, 248 HR playing mostly C. Eight all-star appearances.Only 17 HoF votes (3.7%) in 1994. One and done. I think he's a more likely a Hall of Very Good type guy but Simba deserved more consideration than that.
 
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Eephus said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Ted Simmons
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That's a good one. 2472 H, 1389 RBI, 248 HR playing mostly C. Eight all-star appearances.Only 17 HoF votes (3.7%) in 1994. One and done. I think he's a more likely a Hall of Very Good type guy but Simba deserved more consideration than that.
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If Simmons were playing today, I think he'd be appreciated more. I can't explain how he fell through the cracks.
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I think Johnny Bench hurt Simmons, much like Rickey comps are hurting Raines today.
 
Cesar Cedeno

Amos Otis

Dwight Evans

Lonnie Smith

Jimmy Wynn

Will Clark

John Olerud

 
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Workhorse said:
Cesar Cedeno
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Good one. 123 career OPS+, 5 gold gloves, 8 times in the top ten in steals, and guy had some pop for a speedster. I'll add Chet Lemon now too. It is shocking to think he didn't win any gold gloves but he was a guy who was hurt by his great range as he would get to balls he shouldn't and then be involved in an error for doing it. Lemon had great range, a great arm, and he was a career 120 OPS+ hitter, and he was an expert at getting hit by pitches.
 
I always thought that Al Simmons never received enough credit as one of the greats. Most casual baseball fans can rattle off Cobb, Ruth, Bonds, etc. But ask them about Al Simmons, and usually you get one of these: :confused:

The guy could just flat out hit.

Edit: I'll also throw Richie Ashburn in as well.

 
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Albert Belle - as being discussed in the HoF thread, the guy had an 8 year run that very, very few have ever matched in the history of the game. Yeah, he was a misanthropic ingrate, but he raked. Best hitter in the league over a 7-8 year stretch perhaps and you never, ever hear him get any due.

 
avoiding injuries said:
Todd Helton. His offensive numbers ranks him with the all-time greats.
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i'd have him closer to the Over-Rated side of things, due to Coors Field inflating his stats. 888 OPS on the road. Compare that to other modern players who show up on his list of comparables, such as...Brian Giles - 913Vlad - 942Maggs - 862McGriff - 887Carlos Delgado - 918Bagwell - 919overall, numbers are still excellent, but i just don't see him as under-rated.
 
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avoiding injuries said:
Todd Helton. His offensive numbers ranks him with the all-time greats.
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i'd have him closer to the Over-Rated side of things, due to Coors Field inflating his stats. 888 OPS on the road. Compare that to other modern players who show up on his list of comparables, such as...Brian Giles - 913Vlad - 942Maggs - 862McGriff - 887Carlos Delgado - 918Bagwell - 919overall, numbers are still excellent, but i just don't see him as under-rated.
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I think we had this same argument in the baseball draft when I selected him. Coors Field or not, his numbers are crazy good.
 
I like the Albert Belle mention.

Don Mattingly - 6 straight ASG, 9 Gold Gloves...145 RBI in '85 were the most in 50 years by a leftie...I believe he was the first 3-straight "Player of the Year" from The Sporting News since Mickey Mantle. IMO...he was clearly the best player in the game for several years...prior to his back problems.

 
Ralph Kiner.

Yes, he was recognized by his peers, but history has forgotten that you must have INSANE production to make it to the hall with his type of career. 7 straight years winning the HR crown = impressive in any era.

 
Mike Cameron

I know he's renowned for his defense now, but I remember the concerns over his glove when he replaced Griffey Jr. in center at the beginning of the decade. His 2003 season, defensively speaking, is simply unfathomable. 485 PO while patrolling in an outfield with Ichiro Suzuki and Randy Winn, who were no slouches themselves.

He wasn't that bad with the bat either.

 
**** Allen - 156 OPS+ (19th all-time), led the league in OPS 4 times

J.R. Richard - 6.88 H/9 4th best of all time (stroke at age 30)

Jeff Bagwell - 6 straight years with 100 walks, 149 OPS+, 213 OPS+ in 1994, 449 HR

Kevin Mitchell - A bit of a disappointment overall but a career OPS+ of 142

 
David Yudkin said:
**** Allen - 156 OPS+ (19th all-time), led the league in OPS 4 timesJ.R. Richard - 6.88 H/9 4th best of all time (stroke at age 30)Jeff Bagwell - 6 straight years with 100 walks, 149 OPS+, 213 OPS+ in 1994, 449 HRKevin Mitchell - A bit of a disappointment overall but a career OPS+ of 142
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