Universal ID Cards (1 Viewer)

[Rohn Jambo]

Countries like India, Russia and Filipines have adopted biometric Universal ID cards. Do you see this being rolled out in the United States in the next 5-10 years?

Here is a report on the Indian pilot program sponsored by the European Union, United Nations and World Bank: http://www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/biometric-performance-lessons-India.pdf

The existing cards are based on fingerprints and iris scans but I think the next generation in development may use DNA sequences.

 

[McGarnicle]

Will this help get rid of illegals?

 

[NutterButter]

If it means one less thing I need to carry around, I'm all for it.

 

[McGarnicle]

It means one more thing to carry around.

 

[NutterButter]

It means one more thing to carry around.

Eff that

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Will this help get rid of illegals?

New York City started biometric Municiple IDs this year. It is free and does not store the applicant's immigration status. It offers free 1 year membership to 33 of the city's cultural institutions (e.g. museums, zoos, botanic gardens, etc). This offer lasts until Dec 31, 2015 but the freebies are good for a year starting on the sign up date.http://www1.nyc.gov/site/idnyc/about/about.page

You know what they say about no free lunches. Don't blame me if you apply.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

It means one more thing to carry around.

Eff that

It would only makes sense if it will get rid of a separate driver's license and voter registation. I can see it replacing even passports in the long run.

 

[Fennis]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

What does The Donald say?

 

[Fennis]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

What does The Donald say?

He will replace national IDs with something terrific.

 

[NutterButter]

It means one more thing to carry around.

Eff that

It would only makes sense if it will get rid of a separate driver's license and voter registation. I can see it replacing even passports in the long run.

Then sign me up. I thought it was biometric?

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

What does The Donald say?

He will replace national IDs with something terrific.

The Trump Card?

 

[NutterButter]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

What does The Donald say?

He will replace national IDs with something terrific.

The Trump Gold Card?

You forgot the most important part

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

What does The Donald say?

He will replace national IDs with something terrific.

The Trump Gold Card?

You forgot the most important part

Not if you know The Trump Card is priceless.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

A lot of politicians hate that it can prevent voter fraud.

What are some real good reasons against it?

 

[cstu]

What are some real good reasons against it?

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

 

[Fennis]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

A lot of politicians hate that it can prevent voter fraud.

What are some real good reasons against it?

Privacy. People don't want all that info in a single pace with the federal government.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

What are some real good reasons against it?

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

Name something not on Hillary's platform.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

If it is just for the US I'm pretty they're not universal.

 

[Fennis]

If it is just for the US I'm pretty they're not universal.

Can we rename the world series, already?

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

A lot of politicians hate that it can prevent voter fraud.

What are some real good reasons against it?

Privacy. People don't want all that info in a single pace with the federal government.

But the federal government already has a lot of info in a single place after Bush's Real ID Act in 2005. They also have records of everything we say on our phones and on the Internet. It's a little late to complain about privacy when the FEDs can easily smurf or take over anyone's smartphone.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/610024/Edward-Snowden-UK-Government-hack-smartphones

 

[Rohn Jambo]

If it is just for the US I'm pretty they're not universal.

Can we rename the world series, already?

According to people who run "Miss Universe", our women are the best looking across all the galaxies.

 

[The Commish]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

when did this happen? I thought they were trying to make everyone have IDs

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Republican Party is strongly against it. Wont happen.

when did this happen? I thought they were trying to make everyone have IDs

I think he means the Tea Party.

 

[BowieMercs]

People don't have a problem with having a passport. Having a combo passport, voter eligibility card shouldn't be a problem. They already have passport cards http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/information/card/Difference-Between-Passport-Book-and-Card.html that are cheaper than passport books. The big complaint about photo ids is the burden it puts on the poor to pay for them. Fine, you make under _______ as reported to the IRS/SS/Welfare etc, you get them free.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Will this help get rid of illegals?

I found a little more on what the U.N. is doing. It will be interesting to see what happens in Europe.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferhicks/2015/05/30/united-nations-high-commissioner-for-refugees-adopts-biometric-tracking

 

[otello]

This would be great for tracking gun ownership too

 

[joffer]

This would be great for tracking gun ownership too

and FFA aliases

 

[cstu]

If it is just for the US I'm pretty they're not universal.

Can we rename the world series, already?

According to people who run "Miss Universe", our women are the best looking across all the galaxies.

Certainly isn't those hogbeasts from Andromeda 6. :X :

 

[NCCommish]

Bad idea. Too easily faked. I can buy an ID that will fool DHS scanners for 100.00. This will be no different.

 

[GilbertGrape]

Mooooolti Pass

 

[Rove!]

It's racist

 

[GilbertGrape]

It's racist

Of course. Does that make it wrong?

Everybody is racist. Only white people feel bad about it.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I can buy an ID that will fool DHS scanners for 100.00.

Can you now?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

If it is just for the US I'm pretty they're not universal.

Also good on Ryguul 7.

 

[NCCommish]

I can buy an ID that will fool DHS scanners for 100.00.

Can you now?

Yes you can. In about half an hour I can buy someone's personal information and order a drivers license with all the holograms and the works. If I want someone else's info the cost is higher of course but not much. China pumps these things out and they aren't the only ones.

Look at the 100 dollar bill. Redone to be allegedly counterfeit proof. Nearly the same day the US released them perfect fakes were in circulation.

If someone can make it someone can fake it.

 

[NCCommish]

BTW it should be pointed out that there is no real scientific evidence for the claim that all fingerprints are unique.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Bad idea. Too easily faked. I can buy an ID that will fool DHS scanners for 100.00. This will be no different.

Why is this an argument against it? State DLs are less easily faked?

 

[NCCommish]

Bad idea. Too easily faked. I can buy an ID that will fool DHS scanners for 100.00. This will be no different.

Why is this an argument against it? State DLs are less easily faked?

No they are very easy to fake. The arguments against it are numerous. First it doesn't solve any problem. Second it would require a national database of everyone. It would inspire ramped up surveillance of everyone. It could easily become a defacto internal passport. And it would lead to more discrimination and profiling of non-whites.

 

[RCon]

Bad idea. Too easily faked. I can buy an ID that will fool DHS scanners for 100.00. This will be no different.

Why is this an argument against it? State DLs are less easily faked?

No they are very easy to fake. The arguments against it are numerous. First it doesn't solve any problem. Second it would require a national database of everyone. It would inspire ramped up surveillance of everyone. It could easily become a defacto internal passport. And it would lead to more discrimination and profiling of non-whites.

Don't we already have national databases of everyone? Social Security, IRS, passports, etc.

Not sure why a national ID card would increase surveillance?

Not sure what you mean when you say "de facto internal passport". How is that different than state driver's licenses?

Definitely unclear on why you think a national card would lead to more discrimination and profiling of non-whites. Can you explain?

 

[the moops]

What is the reasoning behind a national ID if it is not to track people?

 

[dickey moe]

I can buy an ID that will fool DHS scanners for 100.00.

Can you now?

Yes you can. In about half an hour I can buy someone's personal information and order a drivers license with all the holograms and the works. If I want someone else's info the cost is higher of course but not much. China pumps these things out and they aren't the only ones.

Look at the 100 dollar bill. Redone to be allegedly counterfeit proof. Nearly the same day the US released them perfect fakes were in circulation.

If someone can make it someone can fake it.

Let's get rid of all IDs then.

 

[Foosball God]

I can buy an ID that will fool DHS scanners for 100.00.

Can you now?

My real government doesn't even work right.

 

[NCCommish]

I can buy an ID that will fool DHS scanners for 100.00.

Can you now?

Yes you can. In about half an hour I can buy someone's personal information and order a drivers license with all the holograms and the works. If I want someone else's info the cost is higher of course but not much. China pumps these things out and they aren't the only ones.Look at the 100 dollar bill. Redone to be allegedly counterfeit proof. Nearly the same day the US released them perfect fakes were in circulation.

If someone can make it someone can fake it.

Let's get rid of all IDs then.

They have their place but this idea that they are some kind of solution is more than a little silly. It's just more security Kabuki like airport security.

 

[timschochet]

I'm torn. It would be a lot more convenient for me personally and in general I like the concept.

But it would be bad for illegal immigration, and therefore bad for this country. So I have to say no.