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Using Fantasy Knowledge for Parlays (1 Viewer)

What's the SAFER bet?

  • TB +9 Points @ MIN

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • DET -3 vs KC

    Votes: 12 80.0%

  • Total voters
    15

sspunisher

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With all this research that goes into fantasy, I figured I'd try some parlays out. I got a few teaser bets picked out

Dallas Cowboys +3

Green Bay Packers -4

New England Patriots -1

The TB and DET games felt like "trap bets' to me so I thought I'd put up a poll.

Here's some game notes for anyone who hasn't watched these teams. Or if anyone would like to add any observations of their own.

Minnesota: Everyone's pointing the finger at McNabb, and at first you think it's rightfully so b/c of the ugly stats. But after watching the game, he wasn't exactly on top of my "to blame" list. The oline was horrible. With the exception of a few nice runs by Peterson, McNabb was constantly in 3rd and long. Pressure was always in his face, and he even made some very nice scrambles out of the pocket to keep the chains moving. Some dropped balls hurt, a few were medium to long range balls that would have significantly helped his stats. I'd go as far as blaming the offensive coordinator or the game plan before I'd blame McNabb. He was throwing ridiclously short passes all game long and when he finally was allowed to throw the ball deep, most of the time he was just flooded with pressure. It was just bad football all around. While most point to his bad situation in WAS, with the exception of AP, I don't find his situation in MIN any better. At least he had Santana Moss in WAS. His WRs are significantly weaker in Minny and it showed on Sunday.

TB: Watched a bit less of this game, but from what I saw, Freeman was just taking what DET was giving him, which wasn't much at all. I think he's still a bit away from being turned fully loose.

DET: Again, didn't watch much of this game but the offense did look potent. The few plays I did see, Freeman was being pressured pretty good, which leads me to believe they'll absolutely wreak havoc on KC. Freeman is 100x more comfortable with pressure in his face than Cassel is.

KC: That's 5 preseason games so far for KC. The Chiefs scare me, to be honest. They give me a vibe of a team that can explode at any moment, especially with all those offensive weapons in Bowe and Charles, even McCluster is having his moments. Maybe I'm thinking that b/c I traded Bowe for Bryant last year before Bowe's first huge game, and sat there and watched him go off for a few weeks after Dez got hurt. There was no indication of that last year. But as for this game, Cassel has to be the most unathletic starting QB in the NFL today. No balance whatsoever, defenders would fall barely at his feet and he'd just fall backwards like a statue. To his credit, I wouldn't underestimate the difficulty of learning a new offense, some people it takes a while to click, which was pretty obvious for Cassel last year. But Cassel's my bet for the first QB change of the year after watching that game. Even McCown looked better to me in the Jags game. I have absolutely no idea what's going on in KC. The schedule's harder, the coordinators changed, but I still don't think that fully explains the crazy dropoff in production. This wasn't the Patriots that crushed them, it was the Bills.

Anyone have anything to add?

 
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What does this have to do with parlays? This is an NFL forum, btw, if you want to talk about betting on games you can, you don't have to disguise it as a fantasy-relevant topic.

 
What does this have to do with parlays? This is an NFL forum, btw, if you want to talk about betting on games you can, you don't have to disguise it as a fantasy-relevant topic.
I wasn't disguising it, I put the parlays up for voting and discussed my thoughts on the 4 relevant teams...
 
What does this have to do with parlays? This is an NFL forum, btw, if you want to talk about betting on games you can, you don't have to disguise it as a fantasy-relevant topic.
I wasn't disguising it, I put the parlays up for voting and discussed my thoughts on the 4 relevant teams...
Those aren't parlays, they're just bets.
Lol yea I just realized why you were confused. I clarified the OP a bit more.
 
I think the safe bet is Det -3. They should easily cover.

But I actually think the safe bet is take Minnesota and the 9. Can't fathom the Bucs covering that spread. ADP is going to tear through the Bucs D line like crap through a goose. Could go either way, but it should end a one score game.

 
I think the safe bet is Det -3. They should easily cover.But I actually think the safe bet is take Minnesota and the 9. Can't fathom the Bucs covering that spread. ADP is going to tear through the Bucs D line like crap through a goose. Could go either way, but it should end a one score game.
Yea as bad as MIN looked, AP in the backfield is what scares me the most. It's not much better in KC's backfield with Charles, but at least Suh compensates for that a bit.
 
TB +9 reads to me that the Bucs are getting 9 points. After the inept showing of the Vikes last week, I can't see Tampa getting beat by ten or more. I can see Detroit losing to KC, especially if CJ is limited. Give me Tampa and the points.

 
TB +9 reads to me that the Bucs are getting 9 points. After the inept showing of the Vikes last week, I can't see Tampa getting beat by ten or more. I can see Detroit losing to KC, especially if CJ is limited. Give me Tampa and the points.
Yep you're right with the TB+9Only teams to beat TB by more than 10 last year I believe was the Steelers and NO. I'd be more willing to take them if they were at home, but playing in the dome + AP has me bouncing back and forth a bit between both bets.
 
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Yeah, now that I look at those, there's no way TB is + anything against MIN, let alone +9, and DET has to be more heavily favored against KC than just 3 points.

OP, it seems like you're new to this betting thing. My honest advice is to just not do it.

ETA: I finally understand that you meant teasers when you said parlays. I'd still advise against it.

 
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TB +9 reads to me that the Bucs are getting 9 points. After the inept showing of the Vikes last week, I can't see Tampa getting beat by ten or more. I can see Detroit losing to KC, especially if CJ is limited. Give me Tampa and the points.
Yep you're right with the TB+9Only teams to beat TB by more than 10 last year I believe was the Steelers and NO. I'd be more willing to take them if they were at home, but playing in the dome + AP has me bouncing back and forth a bit between both bets.
Then your first line should read TB @ Min. Using the vs. indicates that TB is at home.
 
Yeah, now that I look at those, there's no way TB is + anything against MIN, let alone +9, and DET has to be more heavily favored against KC than just 3 points. OP, it seems like you're new to this betting thing. My honest advice is to just not do it.ETA: I finally understand that you meant teasers when you said parlays. I'd still advise against it.
I appreciate the warning but I'm not betting the farm on it haha, all in fun. And like I said, they're teasers, less payout for better spreads/point totals. TB is actually +3 vs the Vikes, the teaser adjusts it to +9.ETA: Detroit was originally -9, teaser adjusts it to -3.
 
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Crossing zero in a teaser bet usually ends in disaster.
some logic behind that or just personal experience?
The logic is that by teasing Dallas to +3, you are not crossing any key numbers(3,7). You are better off just playing Dallas -3 if you like them this weekend. When teasing games, you should look to cross these key numbers. Teasing a favorite of 7.5-8.5 points down, or an underdog of 1.5-2.5 up are much sounder plays since you cross 3 AND 7.
 
Crossing zero in a teaser bet usually ends in disaster.
some logic behind that or just personal experience?
The logic is that by teasing Dallas to +3, you are not crossing any key numbers(3,7). You are better off just playing Dallas -3 if you like them this weekend. When teasing games, you should look to cross these key numbers. Teasing a favorite of 7.5-8.5 points down, or an underdog of 1.5-2.5 up are much sounder plays since you cross 3 AND 7.
Thanks for pointing that out, another article I read made much more sense after your explanation. After adjusting some of my picks, here's the strategy I'm leaning towards. Tell me what you think. I researcehd the most common margins of victory. The 10 of them are (in order): 3, 7, 10, 6, 14, 4, 1, 17, 13 and 2.

Since I'm selecting 4 or 5 games, my thought process is if just one or two games in my parlay benefited from teasing, then it'd be worth it. Obviously we can't just search for games that cross these numbers b/c we probably won't like the matchups. But if 2 or 3 games in your parlay would benefit, then teasing would be appropriate.

Saints at -7 for example, assuming they win, they would only cover 4/10 of the most common margins of victory (10, 14, 17 and 13).

By teasing the Saints to -1, the new spread now covers 9/10 of them (all except a 1 point victory obviously).

Eagles went from -3 to +3, so obviously no benefit like you mentioned as losing by 2 or 1 point is uncommon.

Same with the Cowboys going from -3 to +3.

Packers went from -10 to -4. Margin of victory possibilities improved from 3/10 to 6/10.

Patriots went from -7 to -1. Just like the Saints, margin of victory possibilites improved from 4/10 to 9/10.

etc etc.

Seems like a better strategy to me. Thoughts?

 
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Seems like a better strategy to me. Thoughts?
Better. Anything is better than crossing zero. I only (usually) tease teams in the ranges that I posted earlier. Favorites of 7.5-8.5 and Underdogs of 1.5-2.5. These do really well. I tease 7 point favorites from time to time, but I try not to make a habit of it.

 
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Seems like a better strategy to me. Thoughts?
Better. Anything is better than crossing zero. I only (usually) tease teams in the ranges that I posted earlier. Favorites of 7.5-8.5 and Underdogs of 1.5-2.5. These do really well. I tease 7 point favorites from time to time, but I try not to make a habit of it.
Yea I was hoping to get some info before I dropped some money. I'll be doing a bit more research, but I really appreciate the responses, very helpful thanks man.
 

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