Using QB's at the flex position? (1 Viewer)

[tuffnutt]

My money league wants to allow Qb's to be used at the flex postion. We start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE. and a Flex spot that could be RB,WR, TE. My question is have any of you ever done this, and if so how does that affect your draft stratagy? I'll hang up and listen.....

 

[Bl Deep]

My money league wants to allow Qb's to be used at the flex postion. We start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE. and a Flex spot that could be RB,WR, TE. My question is have any of you ever done this, and if so how does that affect your draft stratagy? I'll hang up and listen.....

FFOC has QB flex.... you tend to have two rules of thumbs...Those that see value of QB flex and go QB/QB rd 1/2 with TB/PM/TR/DB/CP, which causes the others to basically ignroe the position until round 5-7

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Hated it. League scoring was favorable for QBs, making QBs the preferred choice for the flex, making QBs fly off the board very early and causing a run on the wire every time a new QB got tapped due to injury. It might have been okay if scoring was changed to make the attractiveness of various positions more even.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

I'm a big fan of the Super Flex (Flex player can be an extra starter from any position, incl. D, K, QB) and have run a couple of leagues that way for years.

First, scoring system should be harmonized so that a top producer at any position can score as many fantasy points as any othe position.

I prefer this much better to the "Start 2 QB" leagues as it provides more flexibility and different strategies and eliminates problems of "QB hoarding" (can be an issue in 14+ team leagues with sizable rosters).

I prefer that these leagues also have systems where Team D/ST can score comparable to a WR, RB, or QB. This way depth in any area can be rewarded. The Super Flex also reduces the bad luck factor associated with injuries as there are more ways to recover.

I prefer Fantasy Football rules/scoring to more closely parallel "real NFL value". Face it the traditional 12 team league that starts 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex (WR/RB) creates a huge artificial defecit when measuring "Fantasy Value" of QB's vs. "NFL Value" of QBs, not mention that it further inflates the fantasy value of RBs.

Due to scarcity value, RBs still are drafted much earlier than QBs in my Super Flex leagues.

 

[apalmer]

One of my leagues has done this for a couple years. Together with variable PPR scoring (.5 for RB, 1.0 for Wr and 1.5 for TE), it has helped reduce the importance of RBs somewhat. Used to be that 90% of the first 4 rounds of the draft were RBs; QB's (other than Peyton) didn't go until rounds 6-8. Some of us realized early on that grabbing a couple quality QB's early (3rd-5th rounds) would set us up to use the 2nd QB as the Flex. Even with 4 point TD passes, that 2nd QB will outscore all but a few RB's (and therefore definitely outscore any #3 RB who might be flexed). RBs are still huge because of the growing RBBC trend, but it does provide alternative strategies. The other result is that more QB's get drafted (teams planning on using a QB at flex generally take at least 3 of them), so the old "load up on RBs early because you can get a quality QB late" theory doesn't work. Example: in this year's draft, I went with RBs in rounds 1 & 2 and Qb's in 3 and 5. The guy who went RB-RB-RB-WR-WR ended up with Trent Edwards as his QB and Warner as his only backup. With Romo and Young, I'm guessing I'll outscore him at QB by at least 6 points/wk. He does have Reggie Bush as his #3 Rb, but even though Young wasn't my goal for a #2 Qb (they went even faster than I anticipated), under our scoring the flex should be about even. With our Rbs 1 & 2 approx. equal, I end up with an overall advantage at those 4 spots. Of course, in last year's Super Bowl, using the same strategies, he beat me (even though I did outscore him significantly during the regular season). Bottom line is that it allows teams that aren't lucky enough to land 3 stud RB's a chance to compete by going with a different strategy.

 

[tuffnutt]

Sp i have the 1st pick. So i go with LT, and i had plannned to go with best two WR available. Should i think about QB in rd 2 or 3?

 

[theplayer11]

my league is using the QB flex for the first time this year.and it really has me confused on how to draft.

We start:

1 QB

2RB

3WR

1 flex(QB, RB, WR)

any advice on what to do by round and position? Is this essentially a 2 QB league now...or are QBs not quite as valuable as 2 QB leagues.?

 

[GregR_2]

I like it, but ideally I think you need to add more WRs and TEs to your starting lineup so there is a bit more parity. Staggered PPR favoring TE, then WR over RB is also helpful.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

QB in flex spot score 1/2 the points.

40pass=1pt. TD=3(2)pt. 20rush=1pt.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

any advice on what to do by round and position? Is this essentially a 2 QB league now...or are QBs not quite as valuable as 2 QB leagues.?

As some of us have mentioned, it depends on the scoring. Specifically. how valuable it makes each position relative to others. For example, if all positions score the same points for TDs, that gives an advantage to QBs, since they score more TDs than other positions. So people would likely grab QBs earlier in this case than in a league where TDs for QBs were worth fewer points than other positions. And of course there is the scarcity issue. In a1 team league, if everyone wants three, you run out of (starting) QBs...

 

[Wilbur Wood]

For purposes of context my leagues that use the Super Flex have the following lineup/scoring requirements.

Lineup: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K, 1 Super Flex (any position)

Scoring: Super high performance -- TD passes are 4 pts, TDs scored are 6 pts. WR's/TE's get 1 Point per 1st Down Reception, RB's get 0 pts per reception, but get bonus pts for: 1 pt for 20+ yard run, 2 pts for 40+ yard runs, up to 4 bonus pts for rush avg, WR & QBs also get bonus pts for long plays (> 40 yards), QBs also get up to 4 bonus pts for comp %. Yardage is 1 pt per 10 yards rec/rush and 1 pt per 25 yards passing.

I don't believe in a specific drafting formula. However getting 2 good QBs early is certainly a very viable strategy. So is gettting 2 quality RBs early and also getting 2 "Top 10" QBs a little later. Getting a strong stable of WR's in the PPR format ( ~ 70% of WR receptions are 1st down receptions). Top defenses can score 25-35 pts in a given week, so if you can grab 2 of the Top 5 Defenses (granted later in the draft) you can also be very viable (recognizing that there is more variability in Defenses.

Last year in this league we had 5 QBs get drafted in the first 2 rounds, including 2 teams that took 2 QBs with their 1st 2 picks. Still no assurances. One team took Palmer/Brady and was very strong, but did not win it all. The other team took Manning/Bulger and was sub-500.

 

[theplayer11]

all tds are 6 points..PPR We can start 1qb, 1rb, 4wr, flex(QB, RB, WR)..OR 1 QB, 3RB, 2QWR, flex.

Wouldn't going QB, WR heavy be the way to go and start just 2QB and1 RB?