'rawdog said:Does broken non throwing hand keep you out the next week? How much time does he miss?
If his hand is in a cast, I can't imagine him being able to take a snap without major problems. Even in shotgun, he won't be able to catch the ball cleanly. I bet he's out for a month+ if a cast is put on.'rawdog said:Does broken non throwing hand keep you out the next week? How much time does he miss?
Dan Marino he's not...Except all of his injuries have occurred in the pocket.
I traded Stafford+ for Vick before the season in a dynasty league.It was so widely expected that Vick's playing style would get him injured this season, that I decided to be a contrarian and bid high for him in one of my action leagues. I hate it when everyone else is right.![]()
I can't see him playing again this year if he requires a cast.If his hand is in a cast, I can't imagine him being able to take a snap without major problems. Even in shotgun, he won't be able to catch the ball cleanly. I bet he's out for a month+ if a cast is put on.'rawdog said:Does broken non throwing hand keep you out the next week? How much time does he miss?
You know there are 14 weeks left in the regular season, right? You really think he's going to wear a cast for over 3 months?I can't see him playing again this year if he requires a cast.If his hand is in a cast, I can't imagine him being able to take a snap without major problems. Even in shotgun, he won't be able to catch the ball cleanly. I bet he's out for a month+ if a cast is put on.'rawdog said:Does broken non throwing hand keep you out the next week? How much time does he miss?
Vick was whining. Deion set him straight as to why he gets hit more.I assume Andy Reid was mum after the game?
Except that Deion agreed that he should be treated like the "other" QB's...Vick was whining. Deion set him straight as to why he gets hit more.I assume Andy Reid was mum after the game?
Who?So who's the pickup for next week, Kafka or Young?
mortreport Chris Mortensen“@BigNickolas46: @mortreport what is deal w Vince young? Will he be available for the birds next week?" > yes but way behind learning curve
You obviously only heard the part of Sanders' comments that you wanted to hear. The Giants delivered some very questionable, and some blatantly flagrant hits on Vick today and never got flagged once. They were obviously making a planned attempt to injure Vick and they succeeded. I think all of the new rules to protect QBs are BS. Pro football is supposed to be a game played by men who are supposed to be tough. But the rules are what they are, and Vick has a legitimate point. If Tom Brady was out of the pocket scrambling and an opposing DL ducked his head and speared him in his throwing shoulder as he delivered a pass, there would be flags all over the field.Vick was whining. Deion set him straight as to why he gets hit more.I assume Andy Reid was mum after the game?
Sun is coming up in the east again tomorrow, eh?mortreport Chris Mortensen
“@BigNickolas46: @mortreport what is deal w Vince young? Will he be available for the birds next week?" > yes but way behind learning curve
this is claimed in every thread about every injured player. i would imagine guys like you are unbeatable at fantasy.Writing was on the wall in the preseason (unfortunately for the Birds)... all the FF draft day jib-jab was about how bad the O'line looked and Vick was going to get crushed. All coming true I'm afraid.On top of that the Iggles middle defense looks absolutely dreadful which will equate to fewer chances for Vick and the offense.Dream Team Not!
The play he broke his hand on he was hit with a helmet to helmet i believeLol, eagles got all the benefits of the refs today. There were no flagrant hits on Vick. Eli had face mask turned, no flag. Cruz on his second td was pi by nmandi and was face masked
He's not injured... he's hurt... a lot.I'm a Vick owner by the way. Just don't feel the urge to ignore the obvious like others on this board.this is claimed in every thread about every injured player. i would imagine guys like you are unbeatable at fantasy.Writing was on the wall in the preseason (unfortunately for the Birds)... all the FF draft day jib-jab was about how bad the O'line looked and Vick was going to get crushed. All coming true I'm afraid.
On top of that the Iggles middle defense looks absolutely dreadful which will equate to fewer chances for Vick and the offense.
Dream Team Not!
The problem is Vick goes into running mode more often and once you are in run mode the hits are gonna be harder and legal.he has no reason to whine. if he wants to whine he should whine at his own athleticism because everyone on the field knows he can score in a lot of different ways and teams are keeping a eye on him in every direction and referees do not want to call plays dead because they know he is capable of getting out of it.in turn he gets hit.You obviously only heard the part of Sanders' comments that you wanted to hear. The Giants delivered some very questionable, and some blatantly flagrant hits on Vick today and never got flagged once. They were obviously making a planned attempt to injure Vick and they succeeded. I think all of the new rules to protect QBs are BS. Pro football is supposed to be a game played by men who are supposed to be tough. But the rules are what they are, and Vick has a legitimate point. If Tom Brady was out of the pocket scrambling and an opposing DL ducked his head and speared him in his throwing shoulder as he delivered a pass, there would be flags all over the field.Vick was whining. Deion set him straight as to why he gets hit more.I assume Andy Reid was mum after the game?
He hands onto the ball forever. He's a poor man's Roethlisberger.Except all of his injuries have occurred in the pocket.
if the HAND is broken, how do you expect him to take snaps?or break a fall, or stiff arm etc etc...I seriously hope that's not the hand he holds his mirror withIs it normal for an injury to a non throwing hand to take a QB out for a month? I just remember seeing some QBs have broken fingers taped back up, numbed up, and missing no time.
I don't know. That's kind of why I asked a question. I'm sure it would be very painful, but is it impossible? What's normal for QBs with this injury?if the HAND is broken, how do you expect him to take snaps?or break a fall, or stiff arm etc etc...Is it normal for an injury to a non throwing hand to take a QB out for a month? I just remember seeing some QBs have broken fingers taped back up, numbed up, and missing no time.
Kafka looked awful yesterdaySo is it Kafka or VY?VY isn't known for his smarts and hasn't had many reps, but the guy plays more similar to Vick, might survive behind the line better, and has a wining NFL record. Kafka, on the other hand, is Reid's guy, seems to know the offense, looked good enough last week at least, and played well enough to make Kolb expendable in Reid's eyes.
can't you just see both QBs playing in different situations? i can, and i don't like either one.So is it Kafka or VY?VY isn't known for his smarts and hasn't had many reps, but the guy plays more similar to Vick, might survive behind the line better, and has a wining NFL record. Kafka, on the other hand, is Reid's guy, seems to know the offense, looked good enough last week at least, and played well enough to make Kolb expendable in Reid's eyes.
Oh stop it. If you're scrambling out of the pocket, the defense is allowed to hit you in the shoulder. Let's not get crazy here, the officiating in yesterday's game was fine.If Tom Brady was out of the pocket scrambling and an opposing DL ducked his head and speared him in his throwing shoulder as he delivered a pass, there would be flags all over the field.
If Tom Brady broke his non-throwing hand, he'd play the next week.'FLY IGGLES FLY said:If Tom Brady was out of the pocket scrambling and an opposing DL ducked his head and speared him in his throwing shoulder as he delivered a pass, there would be flags all over the field.
Think Kafka performance is excusable and might be closer to the guy we saw vs Atl. First pick was inexperience, just trying to make something happen. Second pick there was no underneath route, so no choice but to again take a shot. They may very well go w/ Young but Kafka may do well given the chance. Google Kafka and you'll see lots of praise from Eagles front office on his football IQ and work ethic.'qimqam said:Kafka looked awful yesterday'Leeroy Jenkins said:So is it Kafka or VY?VY isn't known for his smarts and hasn't had many reps, but the guy plays more similar to Vick, might survive behind the line better, and has a wining NFL record. Kafka, on the other hand, is Reid's guy, seems to know the offense, looked good enough last week at least, and played well enough to make Kolb expendable in Reid's eyes.
Well as an Eagles fan and having to deal with both the Atlanta and NYG games this is the best news I have heard the past 2 weeks.Eagles HC Andy Reid said Mike Vick underwent CT scan on hand today and it showed no fracture.UberSocial for BlackBerry • 9/26/11 12:02 PM
Fat jokes are so unoriginal but this literally made me LOL.As a side note: It's really sad that on a busy work day my mind is preoccupied with the another man's right hand.Per Andy Reid presser going on right now it is a "hand contusion"
Not a break or fracture.![]()
They're waiting for the swelling to go down and they'll go from there. Reid didn't rule Vick out this sunday....or eating an entire cow before game day.