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Vince Young and the pressure

NASHVILLE -- Despite coming off a 2006 season in which he won Offensive Rookie of the Year and helped to double the Tennessee Titans' win total from the previous year, Vince Young said he felt lost in training camp last summer.

He was hurting. He was overwhelmed.

At age 24 -- only one year into his NFL career -- he said he considered retirement.

"I really thought long and hard about it," Young said on Thursday after practice. "There was so much going on with my family. It was crazy being an NFL quarterback. It wasn't fun anymore. All of the fun was out of it. All of the excitement was gone. All I was doing was worrying about things.

"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."

Refurbished, Young followed his 8-8 rookie campaign with a 10-6 mark and a trip to the playoffs. Now, as he gathers with his teammates and readies for his third season as an NFL quarterback, Young, who turned 25 on May 18, says he is better prepared for the assaults from without and within that come his way.

The scrutiny -- standard in the life of a star NFL quarterback -- is intense.

For a black one -- considering the history at the position -- and especially for Young, when taking into account his exhausting roots, the mind can be twisted and tricked. The focus suffocating.

In recent days, pictures of Young surfaced on the Internet drinking shirtless at a party back in his college town of Austin, Texas. Young said the party was a private one held by his former University of Texas teammate and current Oakland Raiders safety Michael Huff after Young had participated in Huff's charity softball and football camp for kids.

Among the unflattering captions, it was suggested that Young was not focused on football.

"First of all, it happened in early April, not last week, and there were a bunch of my former Texas teammates there and several other NFL guys," Young said. "It got kind of hot in there and several of us took our shirts off. Somebody snaps a picture. Here we go. It was young people, me included, having a good time, but I realize my mistake. It was not the model, the image I want to give to the kids. My teammates here have so much love and respect for me just as I have for them. They have barely said a word about it."

A year ago, a similar event might have had a bigger impact on Young's state of mind. However, things have changed for him.

"I have a stronger circle. Now I can handle this kind of stuff without it making me want to give up football," Young said. "I learned that 24/7 I'm representing the Titans and, especially, the kids all over I am trying to influence. I look at my man Michael Vick. I learned from that. I look at Pacman. I learned from that. I look at some troubles recently for rappers T.I. and Lil Wayne, guys I listen to. I learned from them. I've learned from my life.

"You can get too much going on where you can't control it anymore. No matter how much money you get, no matter how much comes your way, you have to control yourself. I know it's up to me. I can't get too big for my britches."

In other words, Young has to continue to grow up fast. Very fast.

As his exposure to the world, to life, unfolds in a blur, Young said he has to remember what he already knows. What he has already experienced. What he has already survived.

Raised in a home led by his mother and grandmother, Young is the youngest of three, with two older sisters. At seven years old, a vehicle hit him while he was on his bicycle. The bike's handlebar slammed into his stomach and resulted in him being hospitalized for months. As part of an early childhood in a thorny part of Houston, he was enticed by gangs and, with friends, vandalized and burglarized property and routinely skipped school.

Young said he saw at least 10 people shot.

Saw two die.

Once, a man his sister was dating was shot down the street, ran to their home, kicked in the door and lay on the floor bleeding. Young was nine or 10 then. All the women around him screaming. He saw it. He learned from it. Soon he began to ride his bike around his neighborhood and pull a mower behind him, cutting lawns and washing cars to contribute to the income in his home.

"I got it," Young said. "I was going to be in jail, crippled or dead."

At Texas he became one of college football's most dramatic players and with Tennessee he is 17-12 as a starter. He can throw it and he can run it, but critics want to see more in his throwing. More in his passing. More accuracy. More touchdown passes.

"It's 'Vince can't do this' and 'Vince can't do that,'" Young said. "I don't want to be a pocket quarterback. I want to be a Hall of Fame quarterback. Compare me to Randall Cunningham in my game. I ask our coaches to let me be me on the field. I listen and I do what I am asked. But they are listening, too."

Especially Mike Heimerdinger, Young's new offensive coordinator.

Heimerdinger said he was at first surprised when he first met Young and witnessed first hand his size (6-foot-5, 233 pounds), leadership abilities and how "he is so engaging and can take the air from a room." He loves Young's arm but is teaching him the importance of accuracy via footwork.

"His feet have been all over the place," Heimerdinger said. "And in hitting a golf ball, in hitting a baseball, in shooting a basketball, in any sport, your feet are the base of it all and must be set underneath you properly. We are focusing on that. It is going to make him a better quarterback. He is going to become more accurate and that is going to help us become not only a better offense but impact our defense and make us a better team. Bottom line is whether you are Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, you are judged on winning."

And Titans coach Jeff Fisher is puzzled by much of the consternation over Young. While developing, Young has won. Besides his 58.6 winning percentage as a starter, Young is one of only 11 quarterbacks of the 53 drafted in the first round since 1983 to lead his team to the playoffs in his first or second season.

The Titans were 5-11 and 4-12 the previous two seasons before Young joined them in 2006.

"I had a 10-year run here with No. 9 that was unforgettable," Fisher said of former Titans quarterback Steve McNair. "I want a 10-year run with No.10 now," he said of Young.

McNair happens to be one of Young's confidants. So, too, are Michael Jordan, gospel singer Yolanda Adams and his pastor back home in Houston. Backup quarterback Kerry Collins is in his ear often on the ins and outs of being an NFL quarterback and Young said that wisdom has proved essential.

Young has spent time this offseason returning to Texas to finish his degree and to host his football camp for kids. This year, he said, it was held in a "nice" area of Houston. Next year, he will have it near his old "low-income" area of Houston.

Go in. Go out.

So much, he said, like the life he has led. Like the one he is living.

"We've had a taste of the playoffs, and now we are a stronger team and want more," Young said. "I want a great year. We need a championship here. This team, this community deserves it. I know things are going to happen to any NFL quarterback, not just me. We're sticking together here. I love my coach (Fisher). He understands me as a person. I need him to focus on me as the person, not the player. I think he knows like I know -- the player is going to be all right."
 
:lmao: I've never been a big fan of his and this didn't help me like him any more. "All I was doing was worrying about things."? Hey, buddy, welcome to LIFE! Hard to feel sorry for pro athletes trying to play the sympathy card that life is tough.
 
Seems like VY suffers from a mild depression.

He got over it, and seems better for it, but one should be concerned about his ability to take criticism.

 
The Madden Curse is getting stronger.

First, guys just got hurt.

Then it made them consider retiring (Young).

Finally, it MADE them retire (Favre).

I think the next step in the curse could be even worse. Therefore, I vote for Osama Bin Laden on the next cover. :mellow:

 
We all get like this from time to time, after signing a mega-millions deal, the feeling that things just can't get any worse.

Luckily, it's nothing a shirtless Man-Party and a bottle of Patron can't fix.

 
Young's problem is he worries too much? Then he needs to have a talk with Leinart. That guy knows how to spend an offseason without stress. I bet retiring's never crossed beer bong boy's mind.

 
Seems like a candid, young guy. Tough childhood, pampered as his talent became apparent and is now dealing with the pressure of being the next superstar of the NFL. He's still only 24! Most of us in our early 20s were a bit of a mess. Deny it if you want, but you remember.

 
I think he has graduated from college, matured, overcome his depression, and is in for a good season. Football players are people too. He seems to have dealt with his issues. I have heard a lot of interviews with Vince over the last few weeks, and he just sounds more relaxed and mature. He's going to outproduce his draft spot this year.

 
Man, you guys suck.

Good on VY for overcoming his depression. Bad on you all for thinking less of him because of it.

Again, you guys suck.

 
Ketamine Dreams said:
He should not have been ROY that year. I'm not a huge fan of his either. I think his career will be a colossal disappointment.
Oh, without question.The Titans have been winning "despite" him, and that won't last forever.9 TD passes and 17 Ints in his second year does not a so-called superstar make.He's fools gold. The more he is exposed, the more evident it will become. It's only a matter of time.
 
Ketamine Dreams said:
He should not have been ROY that year. I'm not a huge fan of his either. I think his career will be a colossal disappointment.
Oh, without question.The Titans have been winning "despite" him, and that won't last forever.9 TD passes and 17 Ints in his second year does not a so-called superstar make.He's fools gold. The more he is exposed, the more evident it will become. It's only a matter of time.
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gianmarco said:
"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."
Hmmm... being drunk and shirtless at a party must be God's definition of a role model then. :confused:
 
Ketamine Dreams said:
He should not have been ROY that year. I'm not a huge fan of his either. I think his career will be a colossal disappointment.
Oh, without question.The Titans have been winning "despite" him, and that won't last forever.9 TD passes and 17 Ints in his second year does not a so-called superstar make.He's fools gold. The more he is exposed, the more evident it will become. It's only a matter of time.
I can't wait for the 2008 season. Maybe he will actually quit around mid-season. He would do the franchise a favor.
 
gianmarco said:
Vince Young and the pressure

NASHVILLE -- Despite coming off a 2006 season in which he won Offensive Rookie of the Year and helped to double the Tennessee Titans' win total from the previous year, Vince Young said he felt lost in training camp last summer.

He was hurting. He was overwhelmed.

At age 24 -- only one year into his NFL career -- he said he considered retirement.
At least he made the Pro Bowl and played for more than his rookie season and didn't line up under center, TWICE, before considering retirement.http://www.post-gazette.com/sports_headlin...0124reeves3.asp

... Elway was a rookie discombobulated by the Denver head coach, twice placing his hands under guard Tom Glassic during games. Reeves allowed the rookie just five formations and backup Steve DeBerg 15. Reeves benched the rookie twice, the last time coming in the playoffs. Elway grew so distraught he talked to his wife about quitting to become a Stanford assistant under his dad, Jack.
Maybe Elway also suffed from depression or quite simply it may be as simple and straight forward that young QBs are under extreme pressure and face scrutiny that most people wouldn't want in this day of phone cameras taking snapshots and posting them on the internet by stalker-oskie types trying to make splashy headlines and names for themselves with sensationalitic headlines.Young QBs fight thru early career struggles but that isn't newsworthy. If people made a big a deal out John Elway contemplating reitirement after his rookie season or were to to interview other QBs who struggled early in their careers then putting this sort of story into the proper context would diffuse rumors and speculation but sensationism sells.

Can't sell sensationism without a splashy headline or by putting things into proper context to find that their really isn't a story worth pursuing.

No story here folks, unless the story is rookie QBs go through rough patches and face self doubt and those who come out the other end tend to come out stronger.

 
gianmarco said:
"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."
Hmmm... being drunk and shirtless at a party must be God's definition of a role model then. :excited:
You think God cares if he has a shirt on? :lmao:
Nope... but drunk? Yes.
Dude.... Jesus' first miracle was to turn water to WINE! J-C is a friggin party animal!
 
I'm guessing switz is a lonely, lard-butts living in Alaska.

Shirt off? OH MY!

Drunk with friends? WHAT A HETHEN!

Get a clue! Life outside of mom's basement can be fun.

 
gianmarco said:
"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."
Hmmm... being drunk and shirtless at a party must be God's definition of a role model then. :rolleyes:
You think God cares if he has a shirt on? :lmao:
As long he's not wearing a shirt saying "I'm with stupid" with the arrow pointing skyward, I think he'll avoid the lightning bolts.
 
if he wants to be a role model, if he really learned from pacman, vick, then would he be partying like that, getting his picture taken? Doesn't make much sense to me...

 
if he wants to be a role model, if he really learned from pacman, vick, then would he be partying like that, getting his picture taken? Doesn't make much sense to me...
There's good reason as to why he only scored a "6" on the wonderlic. Say what you want about the wonderlic, but it is what it is.He's just plain stupid, and that's not going to change.As comedian Ron White says, "you can't fix stupid".
 
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^Worst post ever.Some of you people disgust me.
They disgust me today.When they were 24 they would have just bored the hell out of me!How is someone stupid for drinking with friends with his shirt off (in Texas)? Smart people don't let people with cameras into parties? Andy and Ripley, go over to switz's mom's basement and get your WofW on! We can all thank idiots like these three for yellow journalism. TMZ, tell me what to think. Idiots. :thumbup:
 
if he wants to be a role model, if he really learned from pacman, vick, then would he be partying like that, getting his picture taken? Doesn't make much sense to me...
What's the problem?Last I saw it was legal for 24 year olds to drink. Last I saw having you picture taken is not against the law.I think most 24 year old, drink, party, and have their pictures taken while drinking. Need proof check out facebook/myspace.Just because he's an NFL QB doesn't mean he can't party during the OFF-SEASON!
 
gianmarco said:
"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."
Hmmm... being drunk and shirtless at a party must be God's definition of a role model then. :scared:
You think God cares if he has a shirt on? :lmao:
Nope... but drunk? Yes.
Dude.... Jesus' first miracle was to turn water to WINE! J-C is a friggin party animal!
Didn't say drinking was wrong, just how much. Anyway, didn't mean to turn this into FFA material, just thought his quote was funny in line with his recently captured on film activities.For those who think that if someone has some morals they must still live in their mom's basement - get a clue.

 
gianmarco said:
"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."
Hmmm... being drunk and shirtless at a party must be God's definition of a role model then. :scared:
Vince Young:

"First of all, it happened in early April, not last week, and there were a bunch of my former Texas teammates there and several other NFL guys," Young said. "It got kind of hot in there and several of us took our shirts off. Somebody snaps a picture. Here we go. It was young people, me included, having a good time, but I realize my mistake. It was not the model, the image I want to give to the kids. My teammates here have so much love and respect for me just as I have for them. They have barely said a word about it."
Good job in pulling out one quote and completely failing to acknowledge another quote where he DIRECTLY talks about the incident and admits it was a mistake and that it's not the image he wants to portray. Well done.
 
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Seems like a candid, young guy. Tough childhood, pampered as his talent became apparent and is now dealing with the pressure of being the next superstar of the NFL. He's still only 24! Most of us in our early 20s were a bit of a mess. Deny it if you want, but you remember.
Shoot, I was still a mess into my early thirties.
 
gianmarco said:
"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."
Hmmm... being drunk and shirtless at a party must be God's definition of a role model then. :goodposting:
You think God cares if he has a shirt on? :fishing:
Nope... but drunk? Yes.
You have a lot to learn. Martin Luther's wife was a brew master.
 
gianmarco said:
"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."
Hmmm... being drunk and shirtless at a party must be God's definition of a role model then. :fishing:
You think God cares if he has a shirt on? :hophead:
Nope... but drunk? Yes.
You have a lot to learn. Martin Luther's wife was a brew master.
:goodposting: 6 Billion people on the planet, I doubt that the good Lord even knows who Vince Young is - Unless he's watching football on Sunday to drown out all the prayers.

 
Whoa. First of all, anybody slamming VY for enjoying himself at a party with his friends and former teammates needs to settle. Secondly, which one of you is the licensed psychologist who is seeing Vince? I'm assuming it's one or more of you, given that the diagnosis of Major Depressive Disorder is being thrown around so loosely. Until you've had your personal life thrown under a microscope and had complete strangers dissecting your every flaw, reserve your judgment.

 
I guess what bothers me about this report is that Vince Young came into the league known more for his leadership and competitive desire. While there were certainly people defending his passing skills, most thought those were below par, but after two seasons of watching it seemed like the other factors were prevailing.

What I'm wondering is how a guy who is considered a leader and a never-say-die competitor is talking about quitting after just two seasons in the NFL, including one in which he was a primary factor in leading his team to the playoffs. This doesn't jive with the picture that's been painted of Vince Young after college and two years in the NFL.

 
I guess what bothers me about this report is that Vince Young came into the league known more for his leadership and competitive desire. While there were certainly people defending his passing skills, most thought those were below par, but after two seasons of watching it seemed like the other factors were prevailing.What I'm wondering is how a guy who is considered a leader and a never-say-die competitor is talking about quitting after just two seasons in the NFL, including one in which he was a primary factor in leading his team to the playoffs. This doesn't jive with the picture that's been painted of Vince Young after college and two years in the NFL.
Legit concern, and I had the same "wha-?" reaction. That being said, it was during last preseason that he was thinking about retirement, and then went on to lead the Titans to the playoffs. Give the man some receivers and then we'll have an idea about what he can do.
 
I guess what bothers me about this report is that Vince Young came into the league known more for his leadership and competitive desire. While there were certainly people defending his passing skills, most thought those were below par, but after two seasons of watching it seemed like the other factors were prevailing.What I'm wondering is how a guy who is considered a leader and a never-say-die competitor is talking about quitting after just two seasons in the NFL, including one in which he was a primary factor in leading his team to the playoffs. This doesn't jive with the picture that's been painted of Vince Young after college and two years in the NFL.
You should probably re-read the first few paragraphs of the article again.
 
You kinda have to wonder if every QB that makes it through a whole season, doesn't get into a hot bath in January look down at all his bruises and wonder if it's the right job for him.

Mark Schlereth was half jokingly called plastic man by some after all his surgeries during his NFL career. I imagine every single NFL player raises an eyebrow about that.

Young seems to have a terrific attitude and work ethic. Any thoughts of retiring aren't present in his work ethic and dedication to the Titans so it really doesn't matter that he thought it.

 
gianmarco said:
"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."
Hmmm... being drunk and shirtless at a party must be God's definition of a role model then. :shrug:
You think God cares if he has a shirt on? :lmao:
Nope... but drunk? Yes.
That doesn't make sense... God made both alcohol AND the early 20's. Seriously, anyone that has an issue with him being a bit tanked during the offseason needs to seriously get a life. Or at least respect others who have one.

 
Young has spent time this offseason returning to Texas to finish his degree and to host his football camp for kids.
Anybody know what's his major or what classes he's taking?(Even though it was a serious question, I'm sure that several posters will respond with a couple of zingers that I've already thought of)

 
Boomer Esiason said once... I think it was about the time the first Kerry Collins meltdown hit... the pressure about playing QB in the NFL is knowing that thousands, MILLIONS of people are going to go to work on Monday feeling a certain way, depending on what YOU do on Sunday.

Hell even Brett Favre intimated, when he retired, that he knows he can still play, but it's just a lot of hard work being Cheesehead Jesus all the time.

 

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