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That would be prudent planning even if Vince were an outstanding citizen.You always want to be developing a player well in advance of when you need him. Cuz life gives you lots of twists.Vince could just as easily broke his throwing arm in a car accident. So regardless of this situation, the Titans should have someone waiting in the wings in the event something unfortunate like this should happen.Its just common sense.
The guys are supposed to be adults. Sometimes it really is about the hand you're dealt and I think Fisher gets dealt a hand more than he deals it.
Rusty Smith?
maybe.... I really dont know much of anything about the guy, so I cant speculate on his prospects for development.
Best post of 2010 so far.
Maybe I missed it, but I saw a"gentlemen's club" where most of the dancers are black. There are clubs in this area where most of the dancers are white and their site's reflect that. There are clubs where most of the dancer's are hispanic and their advertising reflects that. Whites aren't barred from going to black clubs, black to hispanics or any other combination you would like to drem up.
I mentioned him on the 1st page of this thread, guess people don't listen to me. Guy has all the raw tools you want, but he needs some polishDonnybrook said:
Now that I am back from my expected banishment. Long overdue.Please show me where his statement is racist? Do you have any idea what racism is? What is your problem?his is good news for the Titans. If really lucky, they can start looking for a frachise QB in next years draft.
Right, because the Titans offense is horrible when he's on the field, and he's never been able to generate a game winning drive. Your racist shtick is old and played out. Please take it somewhere else.
Let me really address this. Let us check the stats. They show a jump in Chris Johnson touches coinciding with the arrival of Young as starting QB along with a weakened schedule. Johnson started a run of 20+ touches with Young at the helm. Any QB could have rode Johnson to wins. Chris Johnson won games for the Titans. Not Vince Young. Vince Young rode along.
Vince did ride along. After a brutal opening schedule w/ Pittsburgh, NYJ, NE, etc, most on the road -- Vince stepped in and faced Jax, Buf, StL, Hou, Arz (without Warner), Sea, etc. Most of *those* at home.Vince is not a leader. I hope he is suspended then pouts himself into another crybaby drinking binge that results in a suicide counselor and 3 Metro officers tackling him in the stadium parking lot at 2:00 AM as he reaches for a .45 in his glove box that he might have pointed at himself had they not subdued him.Now that I am back from my expected banishment. Long overdue.Please show me where his statement is racist? Do you have any idea what racism is? What is your problem?his is good news for the Titans. If really lucky, they can start looking for a frachise QB in next years draft.
Right, because the Titans offense is horrible when he's on the field, and he's never been able to generate a game winning drive. Your racist shtick is old and played out. Please take it somewhere else.
No hate whatsoever. I'm just a season-ticket holder who knows people in the organization. People who are tired, like me, of this child. While Vince is out at 3:00 AM scouting tiddies and lapdances, throwing punches...there are real leaders like Peyton, Drew, and Donovan who are watching film, wondering what else they can do to get better. VY is spoiled, immature, and completely miscast as a franchise quarterback. But he's got 1 big fan - Bud - so we have to deal with him. No hate. Just fact.
You have ranted quite a bit...seems like there is plenty of hate in your posts.And despite me being a Packer fan, I too am a season ticket holder.The hate came from whining about him not being a leader and riding just Johnson...but again, I point out the fact that he did it even before Johnson and the team responded around him then...the haters just want to give credit to the D that year, CJ last year.At some point, you all will admit that VY may have had a bit to do about it too.Im not saying he is some end all be all great QB...but not half as bad as you and a few others have made him out to be.And Im not saying he will be McNair...but there were plenty of calls for his head as an immature run first guy who people wanted out.
Umm...are we supposed to look on Vince bad because even on vacation he was out trying to talk to and help kids?BTW...sounds like someone is mad that Cutler has not quite lived up to his own hype and delivered anything for 2 different teams now?
But it also helps not discredit him being a franchise QB.
Being a QB doesn't mean they have no freedoms. They are Americans. A guy can't ride a motorcycle because he is a football player? That's ridiculous that you even think such a thing.Now, Young hitting someone in a bar? That's different. That's a serious action and he is lucky he doesn't do serious time for it.Sorry, but no.As the QB of an NFL team making millions of dollars, there's acceptable behavior and there is unacceptable behavior. This has nothing to do with judging whether or not he's a good person or how this relates to the Wild West (, btw). He has a responsibility as the QB of the Titans. He is the LEADER of his team. Getting suspended is a big deal to that team. It's not just a "oh well, try not to do that again" moment. And putting himself in that position is just plain old stupid and irresponsible. And to those saying "they're just young men with money", again, no, they aren't. He's the leader of major NFL franchise that has lots of money invested in him. And he doesn't just have money, he has LOTS of money. If other young men with money wanna go to strip clubs, then great, go ahead. Unfortunately, VY just can't do all the things that other young men with money do, especially if he's going to make stupid decisions like he made last night. Same way Ben or Kellen shouldn't be riding motorcycles. Tough sacrifices to make.
Sorry but you obviously don't know anything about NFL contracts by your statement. It's ridiculous that I even think such a thing? If that's the case, then why do NFL contracts have "dangerous activity" clauses in them that prohibit them from doing things just like that? Of course they're Americans and have freedoms. But, "unfortunately" for them, they have to give up some of those things because of the luxury of their job and the millions of dollars invested in them. So teams that are paying them these large sums of money want to protect those investments and actually limit things they can do that other people like you or me could partake in any time we wanted to. Read thisBeing a QB doesn't mean they have no freedoms. They are Americans. A guy can't ride a motorcycle because he is a football player? That's ridiculous that you even think such a thing.Now, Young hitting someone in a bar? That's different. That's a serious action and he is lucky he doesn't do serious time for it.Sorry, but no.As the QB of an NFL team making millions of dollars, there's acceptable behavior and there is unacceptable behavior. This has nothing to do with judging whether or not he's a good person or how this relates to the Wild West (
And to those saying "they're just young men with money", again, no, they aren't. He's the leader of major NFL franchise that has lots of money invested in him. And he doesn't just have money, he has LOTS of money. If other young men with money wanna go to strip clubs, then great, go ahead. Unfortunately, VY just can't do all the things that other young men with money do, especially if he's going to make stupid decisions like he made last night. Same way Ben or Kellen shouldn't be riding motorcycles. Tough sacrifices to make.
His rookie year? Yes.Last year against Arizona as well.That off the top of my head.
Forget about the assault for a moment.He was supposed to be at a charity event 677 miles away later that night. How many "average joes" out there would make a commitment to a lot of kids and others in need and then blow it off to go get drunk and see strippers?He's still the same child that can't man up and do what he says and what's worse is he's had all of these opportunities to hit rock bottom and "get it," but yet he still can't or wont. Once again he takes little responsibility, it was all about the actions of "others" that pushed him into making a "mistake." He'll never has and never will be honest with himself. That's why he'll never be a franchise guy and it has nothing to do with race.Being a QB doesn't mean they have no freedoms. They are Americans. A guy can't ride a motorcycle because he is a football player? That's ridiculous that you even think such a thing.Now, Young hitting someone in a bar? That's different. That's a serious action and he is lucky he doesn't do serious time for it.Sorry, but no.As the QB of an NFL team making millions of dollars, there's acceptable behavior and there is unacceptable behavior. This has nothing to do with judging whether or not he's a good person or how this relates to the Wild West (, btw). He has a responsibility as the QB of the Titans. He is the LEADER of his team. Getting suspended is a big deal to that team. It's not just a "oh well, try not to do that again" moment. And putting himself in that position is just plain old stupid and irresponsible. And to those saying "they're just young men with money", again, no, they aren't. He's the leader of major NFL franchise that has lots of money invested in him. And he doesn't just have money, he has LOTS of money. If other young men with money wanna go to strip clubs, then great, go ahead. Unfortunately, VY just can't do all the things that other young men with money do, especially if he's going to make stupid decisions like he made last night. Same way Ben or Kellen shouldn't be riding motorcycles. Tough sacrifices to make.
Other than the line about saying he was going to stay in bed but someone pushed him into going out...how has he not taken responsibility? He has said it was a bad mistake, a bad decision on his part. He says it quite clearly.
Wait. 'later that night'? Was this charity event the same night as the assault, or the next day? Because the assault occurred at 3:30-4:00 in the morning. If he was attending a charity event later than night, meaning 12-15 hours later, then the strip club trip had nothing to do with the charity event. 'Later that night' makes it sound like he was going to be at an event two hours after the fight or something.Actually, forget all that. Who cares if he blew off a charity event?
Well, the fact that his head coach was putting on the even might make a few people care.
There are threads like that about various players on all team message boards.
The difference is it is rarely if ever (Rothie is an exception) about the team leader AKA QB being the party animal. The QB is held to a different standard, it is that simple. And Finley making statements about the partying behavior this off season by VY is not just some message board gossip. I am not sure why Finley would make it up anyway.fatness said:
To me it was just the way he said it and of course the part about him being pushed into going is a lot of that. It just so strongly resembles a child's excuse and it sickened me after I ate up all these feel good stories and thought he'd finally turned a corner. For a very long time I wanted him to do good. The Rosebowl had me and a lot of people hooked and salivating for more. When I see him waste his god given ability it makes me want to vomit. A mistake is dropping a glass of milk. What he is doing is an inexcusable pattern of insane behavior. He keeps doing the same crap and expecting a different outcome and one of these times if not this time it's going to affect a lot of people around him. When he apologized why even include anything about others? Because it's his mentality, and he still doesn't understand that he needs to man up and own his decisions regardless of the actions of others. What I really want to hear is, "No excuse, my behavior is unacceptable." Then show it by his actions.
Pattern of behavior?This is the first incident for him even close to like this.Far different from what happened 2 years ago.But he did say he was wrong...he did say he made a bad decision. He did not blame anyone for the decision.
I was disparaging posters on th elink to the other titans message board, not those on this board.And. sorry, coming from you this claim is pretty funny given your comments to others in the FFA.
