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We all know Yahoo, ESPN & CBS projections are crap (1 Viewer)

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nickel&dime

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I've been curious about this for a long time (I think there have been a couple other guys/threads wondering about it too).

Check out this article from NYT today that talks about Yahoo, ESPN and CBS's accuracy...anyone that's following ESPN's projections needs to get their head checked.

Oh, and Dodds is ranked as the #3 most accurate! :goodposting:

 
That's why you sub to FBG. If Yahoo projections were money, other FF sites shouldn't exist. Yahoo FF staff are filled with amateur writers who know squat about football.

 
I looked at the Asstistant GM ("Beta"!?) tab in the CBS lineup page for the first time and out of curiosity. For 15 players in the one league I have Vick it has this single piece of advice under "Assistant GM Recommendations":

It has this bit of wisdom: "Vick, Michael QB PHI is a below average option at his position."

Seriously.

 
The NFL.com projections are great. As of last week (when I finally dropped him), they were projecting C.J. Spiller to have 13+ points every game.

 
ourmanflint said:
nickel&dime said:
I've been curious about this for a long time (I think there have been a couple other guys/threads wondering about it too).

Check out this article from NYT today that talks about Yahoo, ESPN and CBS's accuracy...anyone that's following ESPN's projections needs to get their head checked.

Oh, and Dodds is ranked as the #3 most accurate! :thumbup:
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I think you're missing the point. The projections they are talking about are not their staff projections such as Behrens and Funston. These are the projections that appear in your lineup and waiver wire grids. On CBS its labled as "Guru". The CBS staff projections don't jive with the "Guru" at all.

If you visit the Accuracy site, register and start looking around, you will see that Yahoo, ESPN and even CBS all have competent, competitive projections as compared to Dodds and others.
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I think you meant to reply to the comment after mine, right? I'm not missing the point...what you mentioned is exactly what I'm talking about - the computer projections (powered by AccuScore) being crap compared to experts like Dodds, Behrens, etc.I just know there are a lot of newbies that follow those projections (heck, Yahoo even has a "trade analzer" that goes off of the projections), and I've always thought they were crap but never knew for sure. Based on this analysis, I'm no longer curious.

 
nickel&dime said:
ourmanflint said:
nickel&dime said:
I've been curious about this for a long time (I think there have been a couple other guys/threads wondering about it too).

Check out this article from NYT today that talks about Yahoo, ESPN and CBS's accuracy...anyone that's following ESPN's projections needs to get their head checked.

Oh, and Dodds is ranked as the #3 most accurate! :thumbup:
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I think you're missing the point. The projections they are talking about are not their staff projections such as Behrens and Funston. These are the projections that appear in your lineup and waiver wire grids. On CBS its labled as "Guru". The CBS staff projections don't jive with the "Guru" at all.

If you visit the Accuracy site, register and start looking around, you will see that Yahoo, ESPN and even CBS all have competent, competitive projections as compared to Dodds and others.
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I think you meant to reply to the comment after mine, right? I'm not missing the point...what you mentioned is exactly what I'm talking about - the computer projections (powered by AccuScore) being crap compared to experts like Dodds, Behrens, etc.I just know there are a lot of newbies that follow those projections (heck, Yahoo even has a "trade analzer" that goes off of the projections), and I've always thought they were crap but never knew for sure. Based on this analysis, I'm no longer curious.
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Exactly. I realized that and I deleted my post.
 
The bigger issue is that Dodd's is #3 overall with a 60% accuracy rate. So basically it's a toss up.

 
espn staff composite is 6th, only .7% off the leader.

yahoo composite is 11th, 1.2% off.

so ya, its a tossup pretty much.

 
THE SNOWMAN said:
dennis.moore said:
SCT said:
The bigger issue is that Dodd's is #3 overall with a 60% accuracy rate. So basically it's a toss up.
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60% is still an F.
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:goodposting:
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:badposting:Not sure exactly how they gave their scores, but ranking 200 players in order according to their peers is a bit different than getting the right answer 20 times on a test and requires a different grading scale. Also, when you get out of high school, most professors will grade on a bell curve which would make Dodds' #3 ranked 60% an A.
 
Mello said:
THE SNOWMAN said:
dennis.moore said:
SCT said:
The bigger issue is that Dodd's is #3 overall with a 60% accuracy rate. So basically it's a toss up.
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60% is still an F.
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:goodposting:
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:badposting:Not sure exactly how they gave their scores, but ranking 200 players in order according to their peers is a bit different than getting the right answer 20 times on a test and requires a different grading scale. Also, when you get out of high school, most professors will grade on a bell curve which would make Dodds' #3 ranked 60% an A.
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:lmao:
 
The OP and the linked article on talking about computer rankings folks.

Not the staff rankings. It just so happens that the site that wrote the article also happens to rank staff members of the various sites.

 
steelwind said:
That's why you sub to FBG. If Yahoo projections were money, other FF sites shouldn't exist. Yahoo FF staff are filled with amateur writers who know squat about football.
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Funny that if Yahoo! just let Behrens make all their projections, they'd be ranked a full 15 spots higher.
 
dennis.moore said:
SCT said:
The bigger issue is that Dodd's is #3 overall with a 60% accuracy rate. So basically it's a toss up.
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60% is still an F.
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I don't think they count the obvious start/sit decisons like AP vs. Felix (who btw better freak'n do something or his butt is getting dropped after this week). So, 60% may not be bad...I'm guessing the number floats up higher when all predictions are baked in.
 
SCT said:
The bigger issue is that Dodd's is #3 overall with a 60% accuracy rate. So basically it's a toss up.
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The 60% is not for all start-sit decisions. It's only for the start-sit decisions where the experts disagree with each other.The accuracy percentage would be a lot higher if it included the question of whether to start Frank Gore over Cadillac Williams. But it doesn't. It includes stuff like whether to start Frank Gore over Adrian Peterson, which is a lot harder. Sixty percent is pretty good.
 
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Mello said:
THE SNOWMAN said:
dennis.moore said:
SCT said:
The bigger issue is that Dodd's is #3 overall with a 60% accuracy rate. So basically it's a toss up.
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60% is still an F.
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:excited:
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:badposting:Not sure exactly how they gave their scores, but ranking 200 players in order according to their peers is a bit different than getting the right answer 20 times on a test and requires a different grading scale. Also, when you get out of high school, most professors will grade on a bell curve which would make Dodds' #3 ranked 60% an A.
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:thumbup: i wish i could have convinced my high school teachers of this :thumbup:
 
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