weather in Cleveland on Sunday (1 Viewer)

[smoker]

Has Anderson had a big day in bad weather yet?

 

[Gottabesweet]

I'll be there... This will hurt the Bills way more than Cleveland. Bump to Kellen Winslow.

 

[gethugefast1]

Sunday, December 16, 2007

Snow Shower / Wind High

28°F

Precip

50%

Wind: NNW 21 mph

 

[packersfan]

I'll be there... This will hurt the Bills way more than Cleveland. Bump to Kellen Winslow.

Winslow's production has been poor the past two games. A bad weather game and possibly no Jurevicius could help him regain his prior form. That could lead to more targets if the weather prevents Anderson from taking a lot of shots downfield to Edwards.

 

[smoker]

I'll be there... This will hurt the Bills way more than Cleveland. Bump to Kellen Winslow.

how does this bump winslow?just askin?why do the browns get the advantage?

 

[smoker]

more concerned with anderson's overall game.

Think he is good for 2 td's?

I'm thinking it will be more like a 13-9 game

 

[delusional]

Great..just what i need. Got anderson and edwards going

 

[packersfan]

I'll be there... This will hurt the Bills way more than Cleveland. Bump to Kellen Winslow.

how does this bump winslow?

My belief is it would lead to more intermediate routes and that's where Winslow shines. Even more important for him, though, is Jurevicius possibly not playing. That would be one less player to take targets away from him. Winslow has killed his fantasy owners the last two weeks but I'm cautiously optimistic he gets back on track this week.

 

[Max Power]

Is this a kick in the nuts for Phil Dawson owners?

 

[SteelCat]

Is this a kick in the nuts for Phil Dawson owners?

Spread em with army boots.

 

[smoker]

I think I'm gonna play cutler tonight instead of Anderson (even though D Anderson got me here)

crazy or no?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I own J.Lewis and Anderson....playing lewis for sure(duh...)...on the fence about D.A....Warner is lookin like a better match up....watching the weather reports with baited breath.

 

[Gottabesweet]

I'll be there... This will hurt the Bills way more than Cleveland. Bump to Kellen Winslow.

how does this bump winslow?

My belief is it would lead to more intermediate routes and that's where Winslow shines. Even more important for him, though, is Jurevicius possibly not playing. That would be one less player to take targets away from him. Winslow has killed his fantasy owners the last two weeks but I'm cautiously optimistic he gets back on track this week.

Agree and Edwards had trouble last week completing his soft touch passes to his recievers. Braylon can still go off if McGee is covering him and Greer seems to get beat if he's matched up versus a number one. This game can still be pretty high scoring if the tackling is bad or it can be a 13-10 type game. Just don't know.I think the Browns win 24-13 for what it's worthAnderson 208 2-2 Edwards 168 1-2 Lewis 110 - 1 Lynch 90 yards Braylon/K2 will scoreand Evans will go 4-54

 

[Breesisdaman]

Is this a kick in the nuts for Phil Dawson owners?

I own Dawson. I just dropped Kitna and picked up Ackers who will be kicking in Dallas. I now have two kickers and will watch the weather in Cleveland carefully. Kitna wasnt worth rostering anymore any how.

 

[shadyridr]

I own Lewis, opp has Anderson

 

[j ViLLA x PE]

oh man i'm down to the final four in the fantasy playoffs in my money league. And Kellen Winslow and Braylon Edwards are on my team. I dont know if this is good. My opponent has Randy Moss who may be in similar weather

 

[-OZ-]

how bad does this downgrade Evans?

Just might consider playing Walker or Shockey over him.

 

[General Tso]

The weather forcast here in New Engalnd still is cloudy. They can't tell if the storm will hot Boston or Cleveland. Good thing the game isn't today!! It snowed about a foot out here!!

And yes, if the storm hits it will DEFINITEly effect Dawson. My problem is I have Dawson AND Gostkowski. It's 6 in one and a half dozen in the other I'm afraid...

 

[gianmarco]

how bad does this downgrade Evans? Just might consider playing Walker or Shockey over him.

Doesn't downgrade him any more than his season's production thus far downgrades him.

 

[loose circuits]

The weather forcast here in New Engalnd still is cloudy. They can't tell if the storm will hot Boston or Cleveland. Good thing the game isn't today!! It snowed about a foot out here!!And yes, if the storm hits it will DEFINITEly effect Dawson. My problem is I have Dawson AND Gostkowski. It's 6 in one and a half dozen in the other I'm afraid...

grab grammatca

 

[General Tso]

The weather forcast here in New Engalnd still is cloudy. They can't tell if the storm will hot Boston or Cleveland. Good thing the game isn't today!! It snowed about a foot out here!!And yes, if the storm hits it will DEFINITEly effect Dawson. My problem is I have Dawson AND Gostkowski. It's 6 in one and a half dozen in the other I'm afraid...

grab grammatca

Dude - Gramatica isn't even playing anymore.

 

[TxBuckeye]

The weather forcast here in New Engalnd still is cloudy. They can't tell if the storm will hot Boston or Cleveland. Good thing the game isn't today!! It snowed about a foot out here!!And yes, if the storm hits it will DEFINITEly effect Dawson. My problem is I have Dawson AND Gostkowski. It's 6 in one and a half dozen in the other I'm afraid...

grab grammatca

Dude - Gramatica isn't even playing anymore.

For someone who claims to have won all his leagues Super Bowls the last nine years, you don't seem to know much...Saints sign K Gramatica, place Mare on injured reserveAssociated PressMETAIRIE, La. -- The New Orleans Saints signed kicker Martin Gramatica on Wednesday and placed Olindo Mare on injured reserve.New Orleans SaintsMare injured his hip making a tackle late in the Saints' 34-14 triumph over Atlanta on Monday night. The injury was serious enough to keep him out for the rest of the season, coach Sean Payton said.Gramatica hasn't played since last season, when he was with the Dallas Cowboys for five games. He also played in three games with Indianapolis earlier in 2006.Gramatica made seven of nine field goal attempts last season, his longest from 48 yards.

 

[Knight who says Ni]

I am very concerned about the weather for this game - this week determines the super bowl participants for my league, and I have Lynch, Edwards, and Lindell all in this mess. I've already decided I'm not starting Lindell (picked up Matt Bryant), but I am still worried that this will be a low-scoring game.

Ni

 

[Power Monster]

Dropped Dawson for Longwell. Jamal Lewis is going to have a great game. This game will have a playoff type feel as both teams are alive for a wild card spot. Should be fun...

 

[LILB811]

Sunday in Cleveland, now a high of 29. Forecast is snow/wind (22 mph), 90% chance of precipitation.

This is fabulous news for all of us Anderson and Edwards owners

 

[Bri]

There's a big storm there now or last night. It's supposed to hit NY saturday into sunday so I think at that point they'll just be getting leftovers(of sorts) from the big storm

 

[wadegarrett]

would really be surprised if Jurevicius doesn't play

 

[TheFanatic]

I'll be there... This will hurt the Bills way more than Cleveland. Bump to Kellen Winslow.

how does this bump winslow?just askin?why do the browns get the advantage?

Here's the deal. Winslow is bigger than most WR's. Generally means that he will hve better footing. He runs shorter routes. If Visibility is an issue DA can still see Winslow over the middle but will have a tough time seeing Edwards on a deep route. If it's windy then a short pass to Winslow is less likely to be disrupted by the wind. We should also see a heavy dose of Jamal. Big, power backs are usually heavily utilized in the snow. Remember back in the day when Dallas would play in snow, it was lots of Moose Johnson, not so much Emmit. Moose had better traction and footing in the snow. Bump Winslow and Jamal. Downgrade Edwards. The only way Edwards does well is if the Browns change up their play calling and keep Edwards in close on short routes. I'm rolling with Winslow, Jamal, and Edwards.

 

[that_guy]

so how much would everyone downgrade Edwards? Would you bench him in favor of CJ vs SF? I am never high on CJ anymore but in this case should i roll with him?

 

[wadegarrett]

so how much would everyone downgrade Edwards? Would you bench him in favor of CJ vs SF? I am never high on CJ anymore but in this case should i roll with him?

IMO...no. I'd stick with Edwards.From today's Cleveland Plain Dealer...

Stopping Browns' air attack will stretch Buffalo secondary

by Tony Grossi

Friday December 14, 2007

Buffalo's **** Jauron, the NFL's only Yale-educated coach, speaks softly and precisely and isn't prone to football cliches.

So when he says, "We certainly have a tall order in front of us," in regards to his defensive plans against the Browns, it rings not only as a perfectly dry- witted pun but as the plain truth.

If weather conditions allow the Browns to perform their usual high wire act on Sunday, the trio of Braylon Edwards, Joe Jurevicius and Kellen Winslow would have height advantages of 4 inches, 8 inches and 5 inches, respectively, against their expected Buffalo matchups.

Besides the obvious physical mismatches, the Browns' strength -- their passing game -- plays right into the Bills' defensive weakness.

Three of Buffalo's NFL-high 13 players on injured reserve are key players in their secondary.

The decimation leaves the Bills down to their No. 3 free safety (Jim Leonhard) in the starting lineup and their No. 5 cornerback (Ashton Youboty) defending the slot receiver when the Browns use their gravy passing formation.

Buffalo's three primary cornerbacks for this game measure 5-11, 5-9 and 5-11. They will be assisted by safeties that are 5-10 and 5-8.

Edwards is 6-3, Jurevicius is 6-5 and Winslow is 6-4.

"It's an unbelievable challenge for us," Jauron said.

Buffalo safety Donte Whitner, the native Clevelander, said on a conference call: "We've faced tall guys before. Randy Moss is pretty tall. Terrell Owens. I always say [football] is not basketball. You don't have to be 6-5, 6-6, to play football. You have to know what you're doing. You have to have a competitive spirit. If you have that competitive spirit, you can get anything done."

It may be unfair to use anything Moss has done this season as a measuring stick, but the 6-4 Patriots receiver hit up the Bills in two New England romps for 15 catches for 243 yards and six touchdowns.

Owens, who is 6-3, was relatively quiet in a one-point Dallas win in October. He had two catches for 25 yards.

Now, if height advantage alone were the key to success, the Browns would be scoring at a far greater clip than their franchise record-setting pace.

"Not very many cornerbacks are the size of Braylon or myself," Jurevicius said. "It's nothing different [from what the Browns generally encounter]. We just have to go out there and use what we have - our strength, our size - just like they would use their quickness and speed."

Jauron said the Bills can't suddenly change the way they defend. Nor can they add a few inches by Sunday by swallowing magic pills.

"We have a way that we play the game and we're going to try and play it that way," he said.

This is what Edwards expects from the Bills:

"They can play physical," he said. "Just being physical, they can disturb a lot of routes, whether they're tall or small. If they play physical, it makes us alter our routes, which takes the timing off a little bit.

"It may cause a receiver to shorten his route, or may cause him to be a little nervous, panicky at the line of scrimmage. It's one thing they can do. We welcome that. I'm definitely anticipating that."

Despite their smallish size in the secondary, the Bills have allowed only 18 touchdown passes, the league average. The Browns have given up 27.

"They try to keep the ball in front of them and not let you throw it over their heads, and then they come up and make solid tackles," said coach Romeo Crennel.

Quarterback Derek Anderson said the Bills probably will "try to jam [the receivers at the line of scrimmage] and put a safety over top of guys [in deep coverage]. You're just not able to throw balls up in the air and let Braylon or Joe go jump for them."

Then there's the Winslow factor. The tight end has been limited to seven catches for 69 yards by Arizona and the Jets the past two games.

"They're grabbing, holding him, hitting him when he's releasing," Anderson said. "There's nothing you can do [about it]. They've got a defensive end working his way to the pass rush through him, and they've got a [linebacker] covering him and a [safety] behind him.

"When [Winslow] is open, it must be a good route or somebody fell down."

The Bills are a resilient team, but can they be expected to adequately contain all the Browns' passing weapons?

 

[Banger]

Great..just what i need. Got anderson and edwards going

playing against that duo...

 

[largentslovechild]

me: edwards and winslow

opponent: Anderson and Joey J.

/crossing fingers Joey doesn't break out against this small secondary.

 

[Bobcat10]

There's a big storm there now or last night. It's supposed to hit NY saturday into sunday so I think at that point they'll just be getting leftovers(of sorts) from the big storm

It's fine here now and there was not a big storm here last night...what are you talking about?

 

[FavreCo]

There's a big storm there now or last night. It's supposed to hit NY saturday into sunday so I think at that point they'll just be getting leftovers(of sorts) from the big storm

It's fine here now and there was not a big storm here last night...what are you talking about?

It's on it's way.

 

[Jedeye]

Anderson has a strong arm, and his targets are bigger than normal. I think there is alot of over-reacting going on here.

 

[Bobcat10]

There's a big storm there now or last night. It's supposed to hit NY saturday into sunday so I think at that point they'll just be getting leftovers(of sorts) from the big storm

It's fine here now and there was not a big storm here last night...what are you talking about?

It's on it's way.

 

[amnesiac]

There's a big storm there now or last night. It's supposed to hit NY saturday into sunday so I think at that point they'll just be getting leftovers(of sorts) from the big storm

It's fine here now and there was not a big storm here last night...what are you talking about?

It's on it's way.

100% chance of snow tomorrow night according to national weather bureau.

 

[amnesiac]

would really be surprised if Jurevicius doesn't play

i haven't even heard anything about him possibly being out. he'll likely be the most important reciever Sunday. dude is on third downs.

 

[Kosar]

I understand what Donte Whitner is saying to a point, but height is a certainly an advantage for the endzone corner "jump ball" pass.

 

[amnesiac]

I understand what Donte Whitner is saying to a point, but height is a certainly an advantage for the endzone corner "jump ball" pass.

i think the article is kinda funny, seeing as the Browns top three CBs at this point aren't any taller:Holly, Daven DB 5-10 185 McDonald, Brandon DB 5-10 184 Wright, Eric DB 5-10 195

 

[TxBuckeye]

I understand what Donte Whitner is saying to a point, but height is a certainly an advantage for the endzone corner "jump ball" pass.

i think the article is kinda funny, seeing as the Browns top three CBs at this point aren't any taller:Holly, Daven DB 5-10 185 McDonald, Brandon DB 5-10 184 Wright, Eric DB 5-10 195

Uhm, maybe because Evans and Reed are both 5-10?

 

[amnesiac]

I understand what Donte Whitner is saying to a point, but height is a certainly an advantage for the endzone corner "jump ball" pass.

i think the article is kinda funny, seeing as the Browns top three CBs at this point aren't any taller:Holly, Daven DB 5-10 185 McDonald, Brandon DB 5-10 184 Wright, Eric DB 5-10 195

Uhm, maybe because Evans and Reed are both 5-10?

sure, but the Browns have played taller teams, and i've never seen the size of our CBs brought up.i agree with Whitner, if the Browns recievers rip their secondary, i think it has a lot more to do with route running and their hands than with their height.

 

[Kosar]

I understand what Donte Whitner is saying to a point, but height is a certainly an advantage for the endzone corner "jump ball" pass.

i think the article is kinda funny, seeing as the Browns top three CBs at this point aren't any taller:Holly, Daven DB 5-10 185 McDonald, Brandon DB 5-10 184 Wright, Eric DB 5-10 195

Uhm, maybe because Evans and Reed are both 5-10?

sure, but the Browns have played taller teams, and i've never seen the size of our CBs brought up.i agree with Whitner, if the Browns recievers rip their secondary, i think it has a lot more to do with route running and their hands than with their height.

I'm thinking of Edwards TD catch vs the Jets as an example, although, I guess it could be argued that the cornerback was turned around, rather than Edwards being taller. I think it helped, though.

 

[amnesiac]

I understand what Donte Whitner is saying to a point, but height is a certainly an advantage for the endzone corner "jump ball" pass.

i think the article is kinda funny, seeing as the Browns top three CBs at this point aren't any taller:Holly, Daven DB 5-10 185 McDonald, Brandon DB 5-10 184 Wright, Eric DB 5-10 195

Uhm, maybe because Evans and Reed are both 5-10?

sure, but the Browns have played taller teams, and i've never seen the size of our CBs brought up.i agree with Whitner, if the Browns recievers rip their secondary, i think it has a lot more to do with route running and their hands than with their height.

I'm thinking of Edwards TD catch vs the Jets as an example, although, I guess it could be argued that the cornerback was turned around, rather than Edwards being taller. I think it helped, though.

ok, i'm sure it doesn't hurt.i just thought it was kind of a silly article, when they could've been breaking down other aspects of the game is all. course, i was reading it at 5am this morning, so maybe i'm not the best judge of stuff i read that early.

 

[Browns Rule!]

I understand what Donte Whitner is saying to a point, but height is a certainly an advantage for the endzone corner "jump ball" pass.

i think the article is kinda funny, seeing as the Browns top three CBs at this point aren't any taller:Holly, Daven DB 5-10 185 McDonald, Brandon DB 5-10 184 Wright, Eric DB 5-10 195

Uhm, maybe because Evans and Reed are both 5-10?

sure, but the Browns have played taller teams, and i've never seen the size of our CBs brought up.i agree with Whitner, if the Browns recievers rip their secondary, i think it has a lot more to do with route running and their hands than with their height.

I'm thinking of Edwards TD catch vs the Jets as an example, although, I guess it could be argued that the cornerback was turned around, rather than Edwards being taller. I think it helped, though.

ok, i'm sure it doesn't hurt.i just thought it was kind of a silly article, when they could've been breaking down other aspects of the game is all. course, i was reading it at 5am this morning, so maybe i'm not the best judge of stuff i read that early.

I've never heard of a corner (at least not many) that are over 6 feet

 

[TheFanatic]

I understand what Donte Whitner is saying to a point, but height is a certainly an advantage for the endzone corner "jump ball" pass.

i think the article is kinda funny, seeing as the Browns top three CBs at this point aren't any taller:Holly, Daven DB 5-10 185 McDonald, Brandon DB 5-10 184 Wright, Eric DB 5-10 195

Uhm, maybe because Evans and Reed are both 5-10?

sure, but the Browns have played taller teams, and i've never seen the size of our CBs brought up.i agree with Whitner, if the Browns recievers rip their secondary, i think it has a lot more to do with route running and their hands than with their height.

I'm thinking of Edwards TD catch vs the Jets as an example, although, I guess it could be argued that the cornerback was turned around, rather than Edwards being taller. I think it helped, though.

ok, i'm sure it doesn't hurt.i just thought it was kind of a silly article, when they could've been breaking down other aspects of the game is all. course, i was reading it at 5am this morning, so maybe i'm not the best judge of stuff i read that early.

I've never heard of a corner (at least not many) that are over 6 feet

Exactly. Short WR's are converted to corner all the time. Having short CB's is not a story. Having the 5th CB on the team starting this Sunday is a story...

 

[Kosar]

i just thought it was kind of a silly article, when they could've been breaking down other aspects of the game is all.

Agreed.

 

[ditka...mike ditka]

great...i have to choose between Anderson and Rothlisburger...both in bad weather...

 

[Keith Lewis]

Sunday in Cleveland, now a high of 29. Forecast is snow/wind (22 mph), 90% chance of precipitation.This is fabulous news for all of us Anderson and Edwards owners

Sorry for my ignorance, 22 MPH winds, at what point does the ball go off target with wind MPH? Does 22 MPH make it really hard?

 

[Bri]

There's a big storm there now or last night. It's supposed to hit NY saturday into sunday so I think at that point they'll just be getting leftovers(of sorts) from the big storm

It's fine here now and there was not a big storm here last night...what are you talking about?

It's on it's way.

100% chance of snow tomorrow night according to national weather bureau.

I don't know anymoreIn upstate NY they had a foot predicted, less of course for NY/NJ area(Jets game)I figured, apparently incorrectly, the storm couldn't be big enough to dump snow on both games.Seems I'm wrong, sorry guys