Week 1 Waivers (1 Viewer)

[Insein]

Nothing out there I really want to spend on. I'm holding.

Same. I drafted Cohen, Carson and Kupp. Don't want to waste #1 spot on Kerwynn Williams and the AZ committee. I like Agholar but again not enough to waste the #1 spot.  Seems like a week to hold and see what happens after waivers.

 

[shadyridr]

... you don't use your #1 RB to kill the clock? And this is standard as well.

Dixon is out for the season. Again I have no great love of Allen's talent; I love his situation. I'll take a clear role with a bit of future upside over muddy waters any day.

Not in a blowout

 

[Hurl Bruce]

In full PPR:

Cohen

Allen

Carson/Williams

Ellington/Vareen

In PPR, would it be:

1. Cohen

2. Allen

3. James White

4. Kerwyn

5. Carson

6. Kamara

7. Thompson

??????  That's how I have it.

 

[BobbyLayne]

In PPR, would it be:

1. Cohen

2. Allen

3. James White

4. Kerwyn

5. Carson

6. Kamara

7. Thompson

??????  That's how I have it.

If White is in the WW, that looks about right. Williams will probably yield some passing downs to Ellington, Carson, who knows, it's crowded up there. I like Kamara a lot and he was involved from the first series on, but Payton loves having 3 involved. We know CT is a poor man's Riddick.

 

[ragonkforce]

Why was McFadden out today? 

Because of those reasons I said in my original post....

 

[Stinkin Ref]

In PPR, would it be:

1. Cohen

2. Allen

3. James White

4. Kerwyn

5. Carson

6. Kamara

7. Thompson

??????  That's how I have it.

got a feeling Kamara is too low on this list.....

 

[matuski]

... you don't use your #1 RB to kill the clock? And this is standard as well.

This is a huge unknown imo regarding Allens usage game 1.

They weren't killing clock.. they were waiting for the clock to run out.  It was long over.  Big difference.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

if Kamara is somehow available on your WW....he seems a solid play....if you watched the game, the Saints line is so bad, Drew freakin Brees is turning into a check down guy....

 

[Scooby1974]

This is a total shot in the dark, but...what do you think the chances are of Arizona trading for a RB given Carson and Fitz's age and perhaps a desire to make a run this year? Certainly nobody can fill Johnson's shoes, but I'm guessing there COULD be someone to be had that would be better than the pending RBBC mess now. Would the saints consider trading Peterson for example?

 

[Crystalsteam99]

Seems crazy to stay away from the AZ RB situation. 

look at DJ's runs last week. What did he ave 2.2 ypc? So some guy off the bench can come in and do better. I don't want any part of Arzona's backfield .

 

[The Frankman]

This is a huge unknown imo regarding Allens usage game 1.

They weren't killing clock.. they were waiting for the clock to run out.  It was long over.  Big difference.

I already addressed this in my first post. Allen isn't getting anywhere near the carries he had in Week 1 going forward... 6-8 to spell West at MOST. It's the passing down work and utter lack of competition (at RB or the 0-10 yard area of the field) that makes him attractive in Baltimore.

edit:

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports Danny Woodhead (hamstring) will be sidelined 4-6 weeks.

Rapsheet believes the Ravens "have a roster decision to make," indicating he'll be a candidate for injured reserve. That would indicate a timetable longer than 4-6 weeks, since I.R. would cost Woodhead eight weeks. Fantasy owners are best off planning to be without Woodhead until Halloween, though there's a chance he's back a few weeks sooner. Buck Allen should slide right into Woodhead's pass-catching role, making him the ideal fill-in in PPR leagues. Now 32, Woodhead has appeared in just 22 games since 2013.

Sounds like he re-injured the hammy he pulled in preseason.

 

[mbuehner]

I dont understand why Marlon Mack isnt on more radar screens. I mean, yeah he's not startable right now, but Luck will be back sometime this season (we like to think). I know a lot of folks have gone broke betting against Gore's health over the years, but father time always wins in the end right? Im not saying i'd overpay, but in a lot of redraft leagues he's on the waver wire for peanuts. Or a pretty cheap trade. Opportunity plus upside come playoff time for cheap?

 

[TartanLion]

This is a total shot in the dark, but...what do you think the chances are of Arizona trading for a RB given Carson and Fitz's age and perhaps a desire to make a run this year? Certainly nobody can fill Johnson's shoes, but I'm guessing there COULD be someone to be had that would be better than the pending RBBC mess now. Would the saints consider trading Peterson for example?

Dion Lewis ? 

One of the the things I like about Buck Allen is that, although he's just moving into a position of a time share, Terrence West isn't exactly a formidable no.1. He can be okay and take what's given most weeks, but there's a chance that maybe Buck Allen just has a really good game at some point in the next couple of weeks and forges an even bigger role for himself 

 

[beerbuff]

This is a total shot in the dark, but...what do you think the chances are of Arizona trading for a RB given Carson and Fitz's age and perhaps a desire to make a run this year? Certainly nobody can fill Johnson's shoes, but I'm guessing there COULD be someone to be had that would be better than the pending RBBC mess now. Would the saints consider trading Peterson for example?

While anything is possible I think the Cardinals are about to go into rebuilding mode and will not trade for an aging RB especially since they already signed one for nothing. They could dump this season and be in the running for a top QB in next years draft.

 

[SoBeDad]

I may be wrong, but I thought Ebron's problems were from always being banged up last year.  I think him and Clay have the same unreliability issues.  I'm tempted to throw a dart at the wall with Julius Thomas (back with Adam Gase and a QB who has a history of using his TE)....plus the bonus that Miami already has their bye week out of the way.

Julius was not impressive in the preseason. Per Channing Crowder on local radio, he also had trouble getting open in practice.

 

[Casting Couch]

Julius was not impressive in the preseason. Per Channing Crowder on local radio, he also had trouble getting open in practice.

I'm just waiting for a valid reason to toss Julius Thomas in the street in my Dynasty league.  I may get it this weekend.

 

[Weebs210]

Arizona depth chart:

1. Williams

2. Ellington

3. CJ

Williams is the play.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Tolbert

It's sad that he needs to be rostered, especially by McCoy owners. He essentially was utilized/saw the same amount of snaps as Blount. I know McCoy left the game for a minute, but that seems to be an often occurrence.

What's going on with Arizona if Johnson is out a few weeks? Tire fire to avoid?

Avoid like the plague. Avoid ARI like the plague.

Really thinking about dumping all my FAAB on Golladay.

Don't do it. Only two WRs drew shadow coverage this week, one of them was Marvin Jones. The odds that Jones plays on 96% of the snaps and only sees 2 targets again are slim to none.

Agholar looked good. He caught everything that was catchable. He made some people miss. He finally looked like a first round WR.

They always used to say it takes 3 seasons for WRs to get it in the NFL. I think he might have finally clicked.

Jeffery draws another tough (the toughest?) match-up this week against Peters. Agholor will be involved again, I thought he looked good.

Does anybody post snap count percentages and/if when/where?

 me

In PPR, would it be:

1. Cohen

2. Allen

3. James White

4. Kerwyn

5. Carson

6. Kamara

7. Thompson

?????? That's how I have it.

Cohen

White

Allen

Carson = Kamara

Thompson

 

[kyoun1e]

Where would anyone put Rawls on this list? 

Also, D. Martin? Somebody dropped him for a defense right before kickoffs hoping nobody would notice.

I'm teeing up T. Cohen as my #1 waiver followed by J. Allen, but wouldn't mind having Rawls and/or D. Martin as well.

Avoiding AZ RBs. Cluster. 

 

[SameSongNDance]

Where would anyone put Rawls on this list?

Also, D. Martin? Somebody dropped him for a defense right before kickoffs hoping nobody would notice.

I'm teeing up T. Cohen as my #1 waiver followed by J. Allen, but wouldn't mind having Rawls and/or D. Martin as well.

Avoiding AZ RBs. Cluster.

Unless you need help ASAP I'd have to imagine Martin would be first on the list.

 

[kyoun1e]

Unless you need help ASAP I'd have to imagine Martin would be first on the list.

Before T. Cohen? Really like this guy. Think he's got the same potential as McCaffrey.

I've read that Martin isn't guaranteed the job when he gets back if J. Rodgers performs. That's what's holding me back from increasing Martin's priority.

I don't need RB help. At all. I got L. Bell at 1.2 and Zeke at 3.2. Have Abdullah and garbage for other depth. I could sit on D. Martin for a while and look forward to a Bell, Zeke, Martin RB trio.

 

[The Frankman]

NFL Network's Mike Garofolo "doesn't expect a bell-cow" in the Cardinals' backfield in David Johnson's absence.

Garofolo fully expects a committee, with Kerwynn Williams, Andre Ellington, Chris Johnson and "maybe even Elijhaa Penny" all vying for touches. Garofolo didn't include ex-Patriots back D.J. Foster in the main group he expects to fight for work. Coach Bruce Arians has famously favored bell-cows throughout his play-calling career, but lacks a back who can fill that role with D.J. sidelined. Williams is the initial favorite on early downs, with Ellington likely to handle most passing situations. Williams will be pushed by CJ2K.

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/907743661907169286

Spend wisely, ladies and gentleman.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Before T. Cohen? Really like this guy. Think he's got the same potential as McCaffrey.

I've read that Martin isn't guaranteed the job when he gets back if J. Rodgers performs. That's what's holding me back from increasing Martin's priority.

I don't need RB help. At all. I got L. Bell at 1.2 and Zeke at 3.2. Have Abdullah and garbage for other depth. I could sit on D. Martin for a while and look forward to a Bell, Zeke, Martin RB trio.

He is. Koetter doesn't want to make it seem like he's just going to hand the job over to Martin after what happened last year, but as long as Martin runs the way he did in the preseason there's no shot Quizz can hold him off. I do think Sims will be involved regardless but due to how much volume I see Martin getting when he returns he shouldn't be on waivers outside of maybe 8-team leagues.

I like Cohen a lot but you don't need him.

 

[Mavis]

So many messes at RB this year, if you have studs lucky you. I want no part of any of the RBs on the teams below.

NE

SEA

Cincy

Jets

Indy

Balt

Ariz

NO

Detroit

Giants

Philly

 

[PhantomJB]

So many messes at RB this year, if you have studs lucky you. I want no part of any of the RBs on the teams below.

Cincy

Jets

NO

This is a nice list. Personally, I am going to be patient with the following three situations/players:

Jets - Powell has a real chance to emerge over Forte maybe even in the first 1/3 of the season. And if that is the case then 60-80 catches is easily within reach.

Cincy - Mixon has too much talent to ignore, even with a horrible O-line. I'm holding or looking to buy from an impatient owner in another 2-4 weeks.

NO - Given his usage last night, I like Kamara as a cheap lottery ticket either in a Sproles role or perhaps even bigger in what is historically a pretty productive backfield.

 

[shadyridr]

So many messes at RB this year, if you have studs lucky you. I want no part of any of the RBs on the teams below.

NE

SEA

Cincy

Jets

Indy

Balt

Ariz

NO

Detroit

Giants

Philly

What's wrong with Gilislee and West? Those guys are both RB2s right now.

 

[strong]

... you don't use your #1 RB to kill the clock? And this is standard as well.

hmmm... i dunno. after a full game that pretty heavily favored west, allen got 7 straight touches and a ton of snaps in a game that was well decided.

so i think you're overstating allen's involvement in that game and likely overvaluing him quite a bit based on some garbage time action.

and you're definitely understating the huge amount of touches that just came available in arizona...

i think allen has a role going forward for a few weeks, but i'd be surprised if he out touches williams over the next two months...

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Arizona depth chart:

1. Williams

2. Ellington

3. CJ

Williams is the play.

While I am personally staying away from the ARI backfield right now (a little too many unknowns of how this may play out, ARI may bring back a guy like Chris Johnson or another back, ARI ability to be successful in the run game in general without a stud like DJ may be hard, etc.), I think people are generally underestimating Ellington in this mix.

Here is a guy who has played successfully as an RB1 when needed, is definitely appealing even in committee as a receiving back, and knows the ARI system really well. Right now, I think he has as much going for him to potentially command the greater share in a time share as Williams does.

 

[chad in Indy]

Julius was not impressive in the preseason. Per Channing Crowder on local radio, he also had trouble getting open in practice.

This is good to know.  Didn't get to see him preseason.  Guess I'll be looking elsewhere.

 

[topman]

I may have missed it in thread. Denver was up most the game Monday night  but assuming they are not going to be every week I would think Jamal Charles look like he would be a decent play. Also knowing Anderson is not the picture of health is an early pickup on Jamal make sense? 

 

[SameSongNDance]

I may have missed it in thread. Denver was up most the game Monday night but assuming they are not going to be every week I would think Jamal Charles look like he would be a decent play. Also knowing Anderson is not the picture of health is an early pickup on Jamal make sense?

I think Charles will be on a hard snap/touch count regardless as to how CJA's health holds up.

 

[bulger2holt]

Anything to see with Agholor?  I just lost ARob and need a WR desperately.  Was week 1 for Agholor a mirage?  

 

[DerekR]

In PPR, would it be:

1. Cohen

2. Allen

3. James White

4. Kerwyn

5. Carson

6. Kamara

7. Thompson

??????  That's how I have it.

Where would Rob Kelley be on this list? I know he didn't have a good game. 

 

[PIK95]

Anything to see with Agholor?  I just lost ARob and need a WR desperately.  Was week 1 for Agholor a mirage?  

I think he should be the #1 pick this week.  Danny Amendola would have been if he didnt get his bell rung.

 

[PhantomJB]

I think Charles will be on a hard snap/touch count regardless as to how CJA's health holds up.

I would respectfully disagree...if CJ goes down I think Denver milks Charles and his one-year contract for all they're worth...if his legs hold up Charles then has the potential to be a low-end RB1 IMHO....if Leary is not out too long the O-line will be adequate if not spectacular.

...Booker has already proven he's not bell cow capable and IMO the same goes for Henderson...they are CoP guys to be worked in as the season goes along when Booker is healthy and Henderson gets better at pass blocking...if CJ gets put on IR my guess is they try to bring back either J. Thompson or Ridley as a thumper backup to Charles.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Anything to see with Agholor?  I just lost ARob and need a WR desperately.  Was week 1 for Agholor a mirage?  

  Have you read ANY of the previous posts in this thread?

 

[need2know]

I would respectfully disagree...if CJ goes down I think Denver milks Charles and his one-year contract for all they're worth...if his legs hold up Charles then has the potential to be a low-end RB1 IMHO....if Leary is not out too long the O-line will be adequate if not spectacular.

...Booker has already proven he's not bell cow capable and IMO the same goes for Henderson...they are CoP guys to be worked in as the season goes along when Booker is healthy and Henderson gets better at pass blocking...if CJ gets put on IR my guess is they try to bring back either J. Thompson or Ridley as a thumper backup to Charles.

If they do that charles won't last 3 games

 

[zoonation]

I think Charles will be on a hard snap/touch count regardless as to how CJA's health holds up.

This is the million dollar question.  He may play his way into more touches.   He looks awesome out there.  If CJ goes down Jammy C will dominate.  Until he blows out his third knee of course. 

 

[kittenmittens]

Where would Rob Kelley be on this list? I know he didn't have a good game. 

Near the top in standard leagues. 

 

[fatness]

And Josh Norman was covering Jeffrey so those targets were also a fluke

Norman was not on Jeffrey all game. Breeland covered him quite a bit.

 

[Weebs210]

Where would Rob Kelley be on this list? I know he didn't have a good game. 

Why is a starting RB on the waiver? At the top for sure. Don't read to much into week 1. The whole offense was out of sync and the eagles have a nasty front 7.

 

[DerekR]

Why is a starting RB on the waiver? At the top for sure. Don't read to much into week 1. The whole offense was out of sync and the eagles have a nasty front 7.

He got dropped before week one by someone who needed a qb and te to start because of the hurricane. I feel like Cohen would be ahead of him though. Full PPR. I don't know about the rest 

 

[zftcg]

Put in my claims for tomorrow. Sixteen-team league, standard scoring, start 2 RBs/3 WRs.

1. Cohen
   
2. Allen
   
3. Williams
   

Went back and forth on Cohen vs. Allen. My concern for Cohen is that he's getting overhyped due to a great game, but his ceiling is ultimately just Darren Sproles (which is not nothing, but it's not like he's going to replace Howard as the lead back). OTOH, I figured when in doubt, bet on talent, and Cohen clearly has more of it than Allen. As for Williams, I'm really not sure how that situation will play out.

Other big decision was who to drop. Considered Burkhead and Wright, but ultimately decided to drop Woodhead. I may come to regret it, but I just think it's going to be longer than the 4-6 weeks they're currently projecting before he's fantasy relevant again. Soft-tissue reinjury means they're going to be very careful bringing him back and will probably ease him in, plus even when he comes back there's no guarantee he stays healthy.

 

[3nOut]

No he won't. They literally will have 1 RB for each role. Williams for between the tackles running, Ellington on passing downs, Johnson to spell them on both roles. Just going by implied snap percentage, that's a nightmare situation. Give me Buck Allen with his guaranteed passing down work and at least 6-8 carries any day (actually outsnapped Terrance West). Woodhead is gonna miss at least 6 weeks due to his re-strain of his hammy.

Snap count means nothing if he only gets 2 yards per touch.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

People know Cohen plays for the Bears right...?...thats one step above the Jets....how many TD's is that team going to score overall....they have pretty much zero options outside of Howard and Cohen which can in some ways seem attractive ....but just have a feeling defenses will plan to stop them....can this offense support two starting fantasy type RB's each week....he's not taking over as the starting RB..... bye week flex appeal shot in the dark unless you are super desperate....how much is that worth....just IMO

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Regarding Allen, what is all this talk about the "Ravens passing down role"?  That's not really been a thing.  At least not a fantasy relevant thing.  Woodhead is a unique player that was getting the ball because he is a good player.  It's not like it's been a position of value over the years and Woodhead just happened to be the guy filling it this year.  Without Woodhead, that role doesn't really exist, at least not to the point where it has fantasy value.

 

[KingPrawn]

People know Cohen plays for the Bears right...?...thats one step above the Jets....how many TD's is that team going to score overall....they have pretty much zero options outside of Howard and Cohen which can in some ways seem attractive ....but just have a feeling defenses will plan to stop them....can this offense support two starting fantasy type RB's each week....he's not taking over as the starting RB..... bye week flex appeal shot in the dark unless you are super desperate....how much is that worth....just IMO

I think people are also forgetting how awful that Atlanta is against receiving backs. James White destroyed them in the Super Bowl. I'll still take Cohen as the #1 waiver wire RB but temper expectations.

 

[CHEF]

This is good to know.  Didn't get to see him preseason.  Guess I'll be looking elsewhere.

I don't get being down on Julius Thomas based on his preseason performance. He is a veteran in which Gase knows very well. Thomas has nothing to prove in the preseason except for the 3rd game in which he scored a short TD. One and done no further need to keep him in the game. So, I call BS. Granted I am a Phins fan. So, take it with a grain of salt. But, I would at least wait and see how he plays against LAC.

 

[Meatwad Reloaded]

Regarding Allen, what is all this talk about the "Ravens passing down role"?  That's not really been a thing.  At least not a fantasy relevant thing.  Woodhead is a unique player that was getting the ball because he is a good player.  It's not like it's been a position of value over the years and Woodhead just happened to be the guy filling it this year.  Without Woodhead, that role doesn't really exist, at least not to the point where it has fantasy value.

I don't know...two years ago I member having him at the end of the year and there was a game where he scored 30 points in ppr.   The name of the game here is opportunity.

 

[Goooals]

Lost Robinson.  I can pickup:

1. Agholor

2. Golladay

3. Kupp

1/2 point PPR -  How do you rank them?