Week 10 New England RB Thread (1 Viewer)

[ceo3west]

David - what is the story with Morris' injury in your opinion? They state he's day-to-day, but I don't see it. Based on last week's info, I get the feeling he's not close to even returning to practice. As for Jordan, it seems like he's closer than Morris, but with the way Green-Ellis is playing would Jordan really cut into his time at this point? We all know Faulk will get his, but I would guess that going forward Faulk will be used like he was last night - 7-10 carries, 4-6 receptions, with ________ getting the bulk of the remaining carries (12-18 or so).

I'm hoping that Green-Ellis is that guy getting the bulk, would like to keep this thing rolling as long as possible...

 

[David Yudkin]

As late as Friday I heard Jordan would be playing against the Colts, so something obviously changed for him to be declared out well before game time.

 

[djjosee]

Gonna keep a close eye on this one -

 

[shims3]

Yes, would like to know about this...especially with the Thursday game this week.

 

[H.K.]

(Rotoworld) BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Kevin Faulk both played an even 33 of the Patriots' 68 offensive snaps in Week 9.

Still waiting on DY for an update on Morris & Jordan...if they don't go again, then BGE & KF are both probably worthy of consideration in wk 10.

 

[LILB811]

In PPR leagues Faulk has put up 10, 2, 9, 9, 8, 20, 14. I think he's a pretty good bet to at least contribute something to your team.

 

[NatronIsMean]

I just picked up BJGE. It's him or Fargas holding the spot in the absence of Reggie Bush. Desperate times.... I'm hoping he can help pick up where Mewelde left off in project Replace Reggie.

Any news on who will go Thursday? I'm glad it's an early game - that may help ensure that Jordan and Morris are out again.

 

[ceo3west]

I just picked up BJGE. It's him or Fargas holding the spot in the absence of Reggie Bush. Desperate times.... I'm hoping he can help pick up where Mewelde left off in project Replace Reggie.

Any news on who will go Thursday? I'm glad it's an early game - that may help ensure that Jordan and Morris are out again.

Denver/Cleveland is tomorrow night unfortunately. New England is next Thurs.

 

[cubbie5150]

Currently carrying both Morris & Jordan (acquired Morris via trade after week 4, & got Jordan cheap via blind bidding last week). I don't "need" eiter of them right now, but was hoping e would get healthy & emerge as the guy getting the majority of touches just in case I'd need them during the playoffs

 

[djjosee]

In PPR leagues Faulk has put up 10, 2, 9, 9, 8, 20, 14. I think he's a pretty good bet to at least contribute something to your team.

Assuming that Jordan and Morris are out ... would Faulk be the better of the two (Faulk and BJGE) in a non-PPR format. I see them as being the same value.

 

[David Yudkin]

No Sammy Morris so far today at practice.

 

[NatronIsMean]

I just picked up BJGE. It's him or Fargas holding the spot in the absence of Reggie Bush. Desperate times.... I'm hoping he can help pick up where Mewelde left off in project Replace Reggie.

Any news on who will go Thursday? I'm glad it's an early game - that may help ensure that Jordan and Morris are out again.

Denver/Cleveland is tomorrow night unfortunately. New England is next Thurs.

Er.... thanks. Not sure how I mixed that up.

 

[LILB811]

In PPR leagues Faulk has put up 10, 2, 9, 9, 8, 20, 14. I think he's a pretty good bet to at least contribute something to your team.

Assuming that Jordan and Morris are out ... would Faulk be the better of the two (Faulk and BJGE) in a non-PPR format. I see them as being the same value.

I see them as about the same also. The TD's are impossible to predict with Belichick since Corey Dillon left.

 

[SleeperPix]

No Sammy Morris so far today at practice.

Jordan?

 

[djjosee]

No Sammy Morris so far today at practice.

Thanks for keeping us up to date on this David.

 

[ceo3west]

No Sammy Morris so far today at practice.

Based on the fact that Morris hasn't even practiced since the injury, I would have to assume that he'll not only be out this week, but most likely next week too seeing that they play Thursday.I'm more interested in Jordan - even if he is ready to go, would they give him the bulk of the work given that Green-Ellis has played well? I doubt it IMO. Jordan has proven two things - he is nothing special, and he can't stay healthy.Thoughts on Jordan David?

 

[David Yudkin]

I can't endorse Jordan until he actually shows something, and other than a few decent runs in the second half of a game early in the year he has done pretty close to nothing. (I'm guessing he's limited in practice today, but we'll have to check the official report later today.)

 

[red]

david-

you alluded in an earlier thread that there was something fishy with sammy morris, something more than just the injury. i'm holding on to him because if/when he comes back, he's a great RB2. however, he's dead weight on my roster if it looks like he's out for an extended period of time. any more insight as to morris' status (injury or otherwise)?

TIA

 

[morris4903]

This Sammy Morris situation is killing me. I hate the Pats/Belicheck solely because of this crap.

 

[David Yudkin]

david-you alluded in an earlier thread that there was something fishy with sammy morris, something more than just the injury. i'm holding on to him because if/when he comes back, he's a great RB2. however, he's dead weight on my roster if it looks like he's out for an extended period of time. any more insight as to morris' status (injury or otherwise)?TIA

Maroney was the one with the "something fishy," not Morris. Morris was supposed to be out 2-3 weeks (allegedly). He's now missed 2, so I don't find anything with him all that out of the ordinary.

 

[red]

david-you alluded in an earlier thread that there was something fishy with sammy morris, something more than just the injury. i'm holding on to him because if/when he comes back, he's a great RB2. however, he's dead weight on my roster if it looks like he's out for an extended period of time. any more insight as to morris' status (injury or otherwise)?TIA

Maroney was the one with the "something fishy," not Morris. Morris was supposed to be out 2-3 weeks (allegedly). He's now missed 2, so I don't find anything with him all that out of the ordinary.

OK. thanks. my bad. i coulda' sworn you posting something about nearly getting your head chewed off by asking too many questions and, in general, being restricted to only "yes/no" type of questions. so, by all measures (for now), morris will hopefully be back in a week or two and hopefully return to his role as the primary ball carrier with faulk as COP and BJGE as a big ????

 

[David Yudkin]

david-you alluded in an earlier thread that there was something fishy with sammy morris, something more than just the injury. i'm holding on to him because if/when he comes back, he's a great RB2. however, he's dead weight on my roster if it looks like he's out for an extended period of time. any more insight as to morris' status (injury or otherwise)?TIA

Maroney was the one with the "something fishy," not Morris. Morris was supposed to be out 2-3 weeks (allegedly). He's now missed 2, so I don't find anything with him all that out of the ordinary.

OK. thanks. my bad. i coulda' sworn you posting something about nearly getting your head chewed off by asking too many questions and, in general, being restricted to only "yes/no" type of questions. so, by all measures (for now), morris will hopefully be back in a week or two and hopefully return to his role as the primary ball carrier with faulk as COP and BJGE as a big ????

I still don't see any of these guys as being great fantasy options. If your team is banged up you could do worse, but if your team is healthy I probably wouldn't start a NE guy over someone that has been productive. NE still won't have a true featured back and the RBs will all get some work split several ways.

 

[ceo3west]

I still don't see any of these guys as being great fantasy options. If your team is banged up you could do worse, but if your team is healthy I probably wouldn't start a NE guy over someone that has been productive. NE still won't have a true featured back and the RBs will all get some work split several ways.

I disagree - with Morris & Jordan out, Green-Ellis has been a solid RB3/flex player for the last 3 weeks. He's getting enough yardage and is getting Morris' goalline work. NE seems to be scoring on the ground at a much higher percentage than last year (for obvious reasons), making Green-Ellis pretty valuable right now IMO. I bet there are only a handful of RB's who have scored in each of the past three weeks besides Green-Ellis. This situation definitely is worth keeping an eye on.

 

[David Yudkin]

Today's practice report . . .

Did Not Participate in Practice

RB Sammy Morris (knee)

CB Lewis Sanders (hamstring)

CB Terrence Wheatley (wrist)

Limited Participation in Practice

LB Eric Alexander (hamstring)

CB Ellis Hobbs (shoulder)

RB LaMont Jordan (calf)

WR Randy Moss (foot)

WR Matthew Slater (ankle)

NT Vince Wilfork (toe)

 

[David Yudkin]

I still don't see any of these guys as being great fantasy options. If your team is banged up you could do worse, but if your team is healthy I probably wouldn't start a NE guy over someone that has been productive. NE still won't have a true featured back and the RBs will all get some work split several ways.

I disagree - with Morris & Jordan out, Green-Ellis has been a solid RB3/flex player for the last 3 weeks. He's getting enough yardage and is getting Morris' goalline work. NE seems to be scoring on the ground at a much higher percentage than last year (for obvious reasons), making Green-Ellis pretty valuable right now IMO. I bet there are only a handful of RB's who have scored in each of the past three weeks besides Green-Ellis. This situation definitely is worth keeping an eye on.

I've been saying the same thing all season. NE RBs = RB3/flex/bye/injury fill-in RBs. And I still don't see any of them as great fantasy options. They can be decent options, but not great (or consistent) options.

 

[jonboltz]

Been loving Faulk in PPR leagues and starting him over Addai.

 

[SleeperPix]

Bump for Thursday news

 

[TheBradyBunch]

No practice for Jordan or Morris today per Reiss.

 

[shims3]

No practice for Jordan or Morris today per Reiss.

Sounds like we will get one more week of BenJarvis and Faulk.

 

[djjosee]

No practice for Jordan or Morris today per Reiss.

Sounds like we will get one more week of BenJarvis and Faulk.

I need him!

 

[ceo3west]

No practice for Jordan or Morris today per Reiss.

Sounds like we will get one more week of BenJarvis and Faulk.

Probably two with the short week next week.

 

[Texican]

 

[harryhood]

Curious to hear some of the boards projections for BJGE this week if Morris and Jordan don't suit up.

 

[Devilsden2001]

I anticipate Green-Ellis with 60yds and a TD this week.

 

[ceo3west]

Curious to hear some of the boards projections for BJGE this week if Morris and Jordan don't suit up.

I'll be starting him at flex this week with confidence. The Bills have not been great against the run recently. I anticipate 50-70 total yards with a good possibility of a TD.

 

[Barksdale Ballers]

Curious to hear some of the boards projections for BJGE this week if Morris and Jordan don't suit up.

I'll be starting him at flex this week with confidence. The Bills have not been great against the run recently. I anticipate 50-70 total yards with a good possibility of a TD.

As will I. Hoping he could actually pick that yardage up if BB has gained some confidence in him after 3 games. Good old wishful thinking.

 

[djjosee]

Curious to hear some of the boards projections for BJGE this week if Morris and Jordan don't suit up.

I'll be starting him at flex this week with confidence. The Bills have not been great against the run recently. I anticipate 50-70 total yards with a good possibility of a TD.

As will I. Hoping he could actually pick that yardage up if BB has gained some confidence in him after 3 games. Good old wishful thinking.

And those are the numbers I expect from Faulk as well.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Jordan not present againEmail|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Christopher L. Gasper, Globe Staff November 7, 2008 01:28 PMFOXBOROUGH -- For the second straight day, running back LaMont Jordan was not present for the media portion of practice, which is being held at the upper practice fields behind Gillette Stadium.Patriots coach Bill Belichick said Jordan, who has a right calf injury, was day to day in his morning press conference."Sometimes when guys come back they're ready to go out there and practice every day. Other guys come back and they're not ready to absorb that full load on a day after day after day basis."Sometimes it's better to work them back along, work them back along, until they reach the point where they're ready to get into the mainstream and do what everybody else does."Jordan was one of five players not spotted during the media portion of practice, which included stretching, special teams work and the start of positional drills.Here are all five players who were not present:RB LaMont Jordan (right calf)CB Terrence Wheatley (left wrist)CB Lewis Sanders (hamstring)RB Sammy Morris (knee)WR Maurice PriceThe Patriots were in light shoulder pads (shells) and shorts or sweatpants.

 

[ceo3west]

Patriots coach Bill Belichick said Jordan, who has a right calf injury, was day to day in his morning press conference."Sometimes when guys come back they're ready to go out there and practice every day. Other guys come back and they're not ready to absorb that full load on a day after day after day basis."Sometimes it's better to work them back along, work them back along, until they reach the point where they're ready to get into the mainstream and do what everybody else does."

BB is so full of He stated 2 weeks ago that both Morris & Jordan were day to day. Here are the facts - Morris hasn't practiced since the injury. That doesn't sound like day to day to me. Not to mention it's a knee injury and he's 32. Jordan practiced a few times on a limited basis since his injury, but seeing that he hasn't played nor had a full practice in over a month tells me he isn't close. Even if Jordan is ready to go soon, I find it unrealistic that he'll be taking many carries away from Green-Ellis. I've been offered good deals for BJGE and have refused - my gut tells me Morris is out for an extended period and Jordan is really a non-factor even when he comes back.

 

[djjosee]

Patriots coach Bill Belichick said Jordan, who has a right calf injury, was day to day in his morning press conference.

"Sometimes when guys come back they're ready to go out there and practice every day. Other guys come back and they're not ready to absorb that full load on a day after day after day basis.

"Sometimes it's better to work them back along, work them back along, until they reach the point where they're ready to get into the mainstream and do what everybody else does."

BB is so full of He stated 2 weeks ago that both Morris & Jordan were day to day. Here are the facts - Morris hasn't practiced since the injury. That doesn't sound like day to day to me. Not to mention it's a knee injury and he's 32. Jordan practiced a few times on a limited basis since his injury, but seeing that he hasn't played nor had a full practice in over a month tells me he isn't close. Even if Jordan is ready to go soon, I find it unrealistic that he'll be taking many carries away from Green-Ellis. I've been offered good deals for BJGE and have refused - my gut tells me Morris is out for an extended period and Jordan is really a non-factor even when he comes back.

Curious ... what kind of offers were you presented?

 

[ceo3west]

Patriots coach Bill Belichick said Jordan, who has a right calf injury, was day to day in his morning press conference.

"Sometimes when guys come back they're ready to go out there and practice every day. Other guys come back and they're not ready to absorb that full load on a day after day after day basis.

"Sometimes it's better to work them back along, work them back along, until they reach the point where they're ready to get into the mainstream and do what everybody else does."

BB is so full of He stated 2 weeks ago that both Morris & Jordan were day to day. Here are the facts - Morris hasn't practiced since the injury. That doesn't sound like day to day to me. Not to mention it's a knee injury and he's 32. Jordan practiced a few times on a limited basis since his injury, but seeing that he hasn't played nor had a full practice in over a month tells me he isn't close. Even if Jordan is ready to go soon, I find it unrealistic that he'll be taking many carries away from Green-Ellis. I've been offered good deals for BJGE and have refused - my gut tells me Morris is out for an extended period and Jordan is really a non-factor even when he comes back.

Curious ... what kind of offers were you presented?

One was Green-Ellis & Steve Smith (NYG) for Coles (redraft). I refused - as I said, I think the injury to Morris is more serious than has been indicated. If I'm right, then I beleive GE will see 10-15 carries a game with the goalline.

 

[jonboltz]

One was Green-Ellis & Steve Smith (NYG) for Coles (redraft). I refused - as I said, I think the injury to Morris is more serious than has been indicated. If I'm right, then I beleive GE will see 10-15 carries a game with the goalline.

Insta-accept.

 

[MCguidance]

One was Green-Ellis & Steve Smith (NYG) for Coles (redraft). I refused - as I said, I think the injury to Morris is more serious than has been indicated. If I'm right, then I beleive GE will see 10-15 carries a game with the goalline.

Insta-accept.

BJGE was dropped in my league today for the Carolins DST in a 12 team ppr. I don't know what that means in terms of his value, but no one has picked him up yet.

 

[tombonneau]

One was Green-Ellis & Steve Smith (NYG) for Coles (redraft). I refused - as I said, I think the injury to Morris is more serious than has been indicated. If I'm right, then I beleive GE will see 10-15 carries a game with the goalline.

Insta-accept.

Seriously. I'm a Pats homer, and I would have accepted that deal in a nanosecond.

 

[Yenrub]

 

[ceo3west]

One was Green-Ellis & Steve Smith (NYG) for Coles (redraft). I refused - as I said, I think the injury to Morris is more serious than has been indicated. If I'm right, then I beleive GE will see 10-15 carries a game with the goalline.

Insta-accept.

Seriously. I'm a Pats homer, and I would have accepted that deal in a nanosecond.

Mabey because Coles is a name, but besides one big game he hasn't done anything in non-PPR, which my league is. Meanwhile, all GE has done is produce when given the chance. Do you really think that at 32 and with a knee injury that Morris is coming back anytime soon and will be a factor?

 

[AngryGorilla]

 

[TheBradyBunch]

While he won't play today, there are signs of life in the Sammy Morris camp, fwiw:

Sammy Morris in focusLink|Comments (0) Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff November 9, 2008 10:10 AMFOXBOROUGH -- Patriots RB Sammy Morris, who has been sidelined with a knee injury, took some time this morning on the Gillette Stadium field to continue his rehab with assistant strength and conditioning coach Harold Nash.Morris, who was wearing a brace over his left knee, appears to be making progress. Wearing shorts and a blue Patriots jacket, he was seen sprinting and making light cuts back and forth.While Morris is doubtful for today's game and the feeling here is that he will not play, his presence on the field this morning -- along with CB Lewis Sanders (hamstring) -- could be an indication that he is nearing a return in the coming weeks.

 

[Sabertooth]

So Faulk is the man again.... speaking from a PPG perspective.

 

[ceo3west]

David - so what are your thoughts on BJGE at this point? Based on lockerroom interviews yesterday, the Pats & BB love this guy. Is there even a remote possibility that he supplants Morris as the starter when he returns? Based on his play the last 4 weeks, he is becoming more than just a flex play - he is a borderline RB2 right now.