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Week 7 Waiver Wire (2 Viewers)

Disappointed I didn't go for Diggs last week. Hope I can get him this week. Bridgewater seems to be locking on to this guy, he's looked great in his first two games, I don't see anything hurting his production moving forward, besides maybe the Vikings.

 
Deamon said:
Polka King said:
VandyMan said:
Pigskin Fanatic said:
good call for DIGGS last week gents, will be going after him this week.

since you all care about my team, I had a bid in for him reading the week 6 thread but i pulled it back. i also sat martavis on the bench. martavis + digs > my actual WRs + RBs for the week. will keep you posted.

is Taylor injury short term or is EJ worth a desperation look? @Jax this week.
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Well, I thought Dodds was insane for projecting good numbers for Hoyer vs Jags, but it looks like he might know a bit more than me about these things. Maybe the lesson is any QB @Jags is worth a look.
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I don't know how your scoring is setup, but Dodds convinced me NOT to go with Hoyer this week. He was bottom of the barrel in the rankings. I went with Bradford and Bridgewater instead. I don't really care because it was ultimately my decision, but I disagree with this premise.
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It wasn't Dodds. Dodds ranked Hoyer low. Tremblay went out on a pretty big limb and had Hoyer ranked like 5th, when Bloom and Dodds both had him out of the top 12. I was surprised he had him so high but that was a really good call.
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Pretty sure Dodds started the week with really high projections for Hoyer (304 PaYD...which I thought was crazy) then he dropped it lower later in the week. Turns out his initial projections were spot on. That's what I was referring to.

All that aside, I'm starting to think any QB @Jags might be worth a look as a streaming option or any Romo owners still scrambling for QB production.

 
Efritch4 said:
Is anybody buying on Chris Thompson?
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I'm liking him more and more since they seem to abandon the run at the first sign of trouble. Looking at their schedule after the bye I see lots of games where they could be passing to catch up or keep up.

Downside is I don't think he's built to take a lot of hits. He hurt his back this week and has a history of back injury going back to high school and two broken vertebrae in college. imo he's a guy that can provide some decent cheap production and you have to enjoy whatever you get out of him before he breaks.

 
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CMike was a bad fit in Seattle because he is a bruiser who just wants to pound the rock? How is that unlike the other bruiser there - the guy he couldn't take any snaps from? You think he didn't fit well in Seattle because they didn't want a bruiser to pound the ball?
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They found a bruiser they liked more in Rawls.

 
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Diggs or Hurns?

I currently have Hurns on my bench as a bye week filler. He's solid, but he's clearly not the #1. Diggs could be, albeit in a weaker passing offense. Should I put in a claim to drop Hurns for Diggs, or just sit tight? My starters are ARob, Keenan, and Julio. Bench is Stevie Johnson, Hurns, with Kelvin Benjamin in the IR slot (stash for next year, 3-keeper league).

 
bfan85 said:
Diggs or Hurns?

I currently have Hurns on my bench as a bye week filler. He's solid, but he's clearly not the #1. Diggs could be, albeit in a weaker passing offense. Should I put in a claim to drop Hurns for Diggs, or just sit tight? My starters are ARob, Keenan, and Julio. Bench is Stevie Johnson, Hurns, with Kelvin Benjamin in the IR slot (stash for next year, 3-keeper league).
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Keep Hurns drop Stevie Johnson

 
VandyMan said:
Deamon said:
Polka King said:
VandyMan said:
Pigskin Fanatic said:
good call for DIGGS last week gents, will be going after him this week.

since you all care about my team, I had a bid in for him reading the week 6 thread but i pulled it back. i also sat martavis on the bench. martavis + digs > my actual WRs + RBs for the week. will keep you posted.

is Taylor injury short term or is EJ worth a desperation look? @Jax this week.
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Well, I thought Dodds was insane for projecting good numbers for Hoyer vs Jags, but it looks like he might know a bit more than me about these things. Maybe the lesson is any QB @Jags is worth a look.
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I don't know how your scoring is setup, but Dodds convinced me NOT to go with Hoyer this week. He was bottom of the barrel in the rankings. I went with Bradford and Bridgewater instead. I don't really care because it was ultimately my decision, but I disagree with this premise.
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It wasn't Dodds. Dodds ranked Hoyer low. Tremblay went out on a pretty big limb and had Hoyer ranked like 5th, when Bloom and Dodds both had him out of the top 12. I was surprised he had him so high but that was a really good call.
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Pretty sure Dodds started the week with really high projections for Hoyer (304 PaYD...which I thought was crazy) then he dropped it lower later in the week. Turns out his initial projections were spot on. That's what I was referring to.

All that aside, I'm starting to think any QB @Jags might be worth a look as a streaming option or any Romo owners still scrambling for QB production.
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FWIW only Taylor himself is saying anything about his condition (obviously optimistic) but FBGS stating his injury is a variety that could take a few weeks to heal so based on this small sample, albeit it was Hoyer, EJ could be a nice grab with bye week issues this week if available, I would think he's available in most leagues.

 
Dr. Brew said:
ATB said:
Quasimoto said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
It's old hat around here but if you haven't joined the party yet Michael seems to be on the verge of getting called the starter in Dallas. Just 54% owned in CBS.
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I can't shake the feeling that the Hawks would have made something of Michael if there was anything there. It takes more than a freakish athlete to succeed at RB - We've seen that proven time and again. This is one of those that I'll have to see to believe, so if he goes off next week he'll probably do it on someone else's roster.
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Been mentioned elsewhere but Hawks and Boys running games are not similar. Look at Murray in Philly. He's running east-west now but he's a north-south back (like he was in Dally). Hawks ask a lot from their RBs - want them to pause behind blockers and then shuffle through a tiny gap. But the Boys just want a bruiser - they want a north-south back like Murray.

And CMike didn't succeed in Seattle for that very reason - he's a bruiser who just want to pound the rock.

He'll get that chance this year.

Whether he succeeds is up to the gods, but he's damn-sure a better fit for the Boys than he was the Hawks.
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I disagree with this completely. Youre listening to Gruden fill up talking time too mich. Murray is not a bruiser. And if Philly uses an east-west attack why dud they trade thebest east-west runner out there to start the season? No coach likes when a back runs east-west...

I'll agree the Dallas and Seattle rushing attacks are very different but 1- why draft a RB who doesn't fit your scheme (and that Seattle gm is a very good drafter)? And 2- why let a great talent go for essentially a 7th rounder?
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In my estimation, it's a personnel issue. Dallas has (allegedly) 5 road graders for offensive lineman. They're getting a good push play after play, letting Murray run downhill/angry. A defender on his heels isn't a very good tackler. Tony Romo and Dez Bryant gave the other team something to think about, scheme for and double team. Jason Witten is still an excellent blocker. In short, Murray had the support to have a great season last year. The OL in Philly isn't the same. I'm not saying they're bad - they have some very good O-Linemen and they're an above average group. But they're not Dallas. Sam Bradford and Jordan Matthews just aren't that scary. Most punters block better than Zach Ertz. In Philly, the supporting cast does not lend itself to a great RB season.

As we pivot back to Dallas and Christine Michael, I ask myself - are the pieces in place to support a great RB season? Many of them are. The 2015 Dallas OL looks a lot like the 2014 version, with the alleged upgrade of La'el Collins pending. Jason Witten remains an excellent blocker. Dez Bryant could be back as soon as this week, and very likely by week 8 at the latest. Tony Romo is still a ways away, from all reports and likely can't be counted on to effect the fantasy season. Matt Cassel isn't scaring anyone, but can he throw the ball to Bryant et al. enough to get the defense's attention? And as I think out-loud, could a situation emerge where teams gameplan to shut down Bryant and dare the Cowboys to win by running?

While the situation ISN'T as clear cut as it was last season for Murray, if Michael gets a "traditional starter's share" of carries, I see him as a high RB2/low RB1. If it remains a 3-way/hot hand/cluster#### situation, then I haven't the foggiest.

 
Rishard Matthews. Was probably dropped after a 1 reception game against the Jets, followed by the bye. But he had 3 TDs and 2 100-yard games to start the season, and had 6 receptions on 6 targets for 85 yards in the last game. The risk is that Parker may eventually emerge, but he apparently is not consistent enough. See Barry Jackson's blog from the Miami Herald regarding the Miami WRs:

### Changes in the distribution of snaps among wide receivers. As usual, Jarvis Landry played the most, as he should (63 of Miami’s 67 offensive snaps).

But instead of playing Rishard Matthews, Greg Jennings and Kenny Stills a comparable amount, the Dolphins increased Matthews’ snaps (to 60), dramatically reduced Jennings’ (to nine), while giving 28 to Stills.

And the Dolphins smartly and successfully threw a 38-yard deep ball to Stills, who led the league in yards per reception in 2013. His deep ball skills hadn’t been exploited enough early in the season.

Matthews again justified Miami's faith with six catches for 85 yards.

Meanwhile, DeVante Parker logged just six snaps; coaches want to see more consistency.

 
Anybody as desperate as me at rb and looking at B. Oliver? Gordon hasn't looked great and was benched. Oliver came in and looked. Gordon has been battling some minor ankle injuries. Maybe they use that an excuse for a week or two to give Oliver more carries? I did say I was desperate at rb. My choices for rb 2 are Andrews, spiller, or knile Davis .

 
Im low buying Adams, Diggs, and Mike Floyd...at this point I dont believe in any of them, but hopefully at least one of them can produce by next week.

 
I've owned Starks MANY times. I've seen this movie several times before. He's not a feature back. Eddie Lacy is one of the best buy lows out there.

 
jimmykick said:
I thought I'd see more excitement about Starks in here ... whats up with Lacy? Any chance Starks takes over?
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Zero chance he overtakes a healthy Lacy.

There appears to be some speculation that Lacy isn't 100% yet (ankle). Plus they have a bye this week, giving him more time to heal if needed. So it's hard to recommend a high waiver claim for Starks.

 
bcat01 said:
Starks or Karlos Williams?
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Karlos seems like a first thought kinda pick..

However, Starks is in a somewhat perfect situation.

Lead back is hindered by injury, while Starks should be in contract discussions following the Season..

The only "now" negative is the bye..

The ideal situation would be a big game coming out of the bye..

Followed by a sweet deal to a RB needy team.. :yes:

Lets be honest, Starks caught a few breaks on his runs, and Lacy should be firing soon..

Basically theres a chance that Starks reverts back to good plays, but seldom used..

p.s. Im kinda shocked nobody is mentioning Kuhnnnnn

 
Judge Smails said:
Kenny Powers said:
Im low buying Adams, Diggs, and Mike Floyd...at this point I dont believe in any of them, but hopefully at least one of them can produce by next week.
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why are Diggs and Floyd buy lows after last week?
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Low buying in the sense that Im only bidding $7 (Adams), $4 (Diggs), and $3 (Floyd). Now this is partially because I have less FAAB left than anyone in the league at this point, but in general I dont see Diggs and Floyd as guys I would typically want to plug into my lineup. Adams on the other hand, I believe in him and hoping he's back after the bye and that I can get him cheap now before he costs more next week when they announce that he is healthy/will play. I do like Diggs talent but he is in literally the worst passing offense in the league so far with Bridgewater only averaging 204 yds/gm and 0.6 TDs/gm. Of course this week I do need to pick up some WR as my WR/TE flex is empty as of now due to byes and injuries, so for that reason I put in a bid for Floyd who I dont really want as I already have Fitz but this is a great week to play both vs BAL.

My waivers just cleared at noon and looks like I was mostly correct in my bidding plan. Landed both Adams and Floyd for the minimal $ above. Diggs ended up going for $26 which is like 13% of the budget and made him close to one of the 5 highest claim prices this year in the league.

 
I hear the skepticism involving Stark and have always avoided the lure. However, I've been watching GB quite a bit and Lacy is a fat carcass shell of what he was. He's never been a lean mean machine but his injury is affecting his fitness and burst.

I grabbed Starks and expect a lot of work for a few weeks at minimum and with an outside shot of seizing this job for the remainder of this year if Lacy never rights the ship.

 
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didn't think I'd have a chance at him as I was 6th on the waiver wire but was able to get Starks. Don't have big expectations but worth a stash for a few weeks as a 6th RB to see what happens.

 
Futz said:
I hear the skepticism involving Stark and have always avoided the lure. However, I've been watching GB quite a bit and Lacy is a fat carcass shell of what he was. He's never been a lean mean machine but his injury is affecting his fitness and burst.

I grabbed Starks and expect a lot of work for a few weeks at minimum and with an outside shot of seizing this job for the remainder of this year if Lacy never rights the ship.
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agree..lacy looks like a slow fat tub of goo out there

 
Catbird said:
CMike was a bad fit in Seattle because he is a bruiser who just wants to pound the rock? How is that unlike the other bruiser there - the guy he couldn't take any snaps from? You think he didn't fit well in Seattle because they didn't want a bruiser to pound the ball?
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Robert Turbin was a bruiser?

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Dr. Brew said:
ATB said:
Quasimoto said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
It's old hat around here but if you haven't joined the party yet Michael seems to be on the verge of getting called the starter in Dallas. Just 54% owned in CBS.
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I can't shake the feeling that the Hawks would have made something of Michael if there was anything there. It takes more than a freakish athlete to succeed at RB - We've seen that proven time and again. This is one of those that I'll have to see to believe, so if he goes off next week he'll probably do it on someone else's roster.
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Been mentioned elsewhere but Hawks and Boys running games are not similar. Look at Murray in Philly. He's running east-west now but he's a north-south back (like he was in Dally). Hawks ask a lot from their RBs - want them to pause behind blockers and then shuffle through a tiny gap. But the Boys just want a bruiser - they want a north-south back like Murray.And CMike didn't succeed in Seattle for that very reason - he's a bruiser who just want to pound the rock.

He'll get that chance this year.

Whether he succeeds is up to the gods, but he's damn-sure a better fit for the Boys than he was the Hawks.
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I disagree with this completely. Youre listening to Gruden fill up talking time too mich. Murray is not a bruiser. And if Philly uses an east-west attack why dud they trade thebest east-west runner out there to start the season? No coach likes when a back runs east-west...I'll agree the Dallas and Seattle rushing attacks are very different but 1- why draft a RB who doesn't fit your scheme (and that Seattle gm is a very good drafter)? And 2- why let a great talent go for essentially a 7th rounder?
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It's kind of hard to explain to somebody who won't listen and obviously doesn't understand scheme. Seattle and Dallas run very different schemes. Murray is not a good fit for the Eagles offense and this was stated when Murray sign there and has been the reason it's been talked about why he's not succeeding for weeks. The answer question why would Seattle let him go they didn't they traded him cause hello, he doesn't fit their scheme.

And as far as Seattle having a good "drafter", The guy who drafted Michael is no longer there.
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His athleticism is undeniable but athleticism does not equal talent. If he is as talented as everyone is claiming, why were there no other bidders? Surely the Hawks could have gotten more than a conditional 7th from Dallas.

 
To piggy back on the WW and Michael discussion, the Early Rankings have come out and a couple things surprised me. First, Randle is still several spots ahead of Michael. Second, Abdullah is several spots ahead of Riddick. This seems strange given all the talk in the forums about Michael getting more carries or a shot at lead back this week and Riddick getting a chance due to Abdullah's continued fumble issues and Joique being ineffective. Rankings would suggest it will be the same-old, same-old for Week 7 based on their intel. Thoughts?

 
What about Chris Hogan? No Watkins this week and Harvin out indefinitely. Could be a nice bye week fill-in if you need WR help.

 
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