austinball
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I would grab Ajayi NOW
Otherwise i rank them Montgomery, Coleman, Adams, Moncrief
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Week 8 Waiver Wire (1 Viewer)
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Otherwise i rank them Montgomery, Coleman, Adams, Moncrief
BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
Landru
Footballguy
This season hasn't been great for shallow league WW opportunities but has been pretty interesting in deeper leagues and dynasty. This week is similar, with few gems but some interesting plays:
Tier 1 (aka standard league interest):
Davante Adams (and Ty Montgomery, if still available) -- it looks like there could be a changing of the guard in GB. From Matt Harmon:
Yards of separation for GB WR
Jack Doyle -- UDFA who came out of nowhere but is producing consistently in a high volume offense. What's not to like about that?
Tier 2 (aka deeper league interest):
Marqise Lee -- I'm not fully sold on him but has the draft pedigree, college production and athleticism to be a useful player. Right now looks like the best WR on the team but AR15 will continue to receive opportunities to rekindle 2015 magic
C.J. Fiedorowicz -- was the first pick of the 3rd round a couple of years ago. Profiled as a solid all-around TE but appears to have a talent for finding the seems. Passes the eye test, the primary drawbacks are his QB and competition for targets
Cordarelle Patterson -- snap counts for the last 4 games: 9%, 49%, 61%, 67%. 0.5 PPR points: 1.5, 6.5, 12.6, 16.2. Noticing a trend here? We know he's dangerous with the ball in his hands and finally seems to have earned trust from the coaching staff
Tier 3 (aka want a RB lottery ticket?)
Ka'Deem Carey -- has outperformed Howard and Langford is probably out until after the bye. It's possible that Carey gets a week to start and show what he can do; regardless, he's established himself as part of the rotation and has looked like Chicago's best RB in limited opportunities. Absolute stud in college who posted terrible combine numbers but passes the eye test
Paul Perkins -- Jennings is toast, Perkins will have a bigger role coming out of the bye. The main concern is that he'll end up in a committee on a team that cannot run
Robert Kelley -- Matt Jones has a knack for rising to the occasion when his job is on the line and it probably is again. Thompson was the primary beneficiary last week although, at 5'8" and 195 lbs, he won't be a 3-down back if Jones is replaced. That falls on Kelley, who was a preseason sensation and has looked good in limited work
Dwayne Washington -- it seems like he was closer to playing than Riddick and no one has stepped up to take the job in their absence. On the other hand, once Riddick is back, he will cap the upside for other backs here
Tier 4:
Russell Shepard -- was an elite HS athlete but didn't do much in college and was an UDFA in 2013. Has been a career special teams player and, while he looked good last week, he only played in 36% of the offensive snaps. Doubtless he'll get more opportunities going forward but how many?
JJ Nelson -- the main question here is opportunity, as there is simply too much overlap with John Brown in the role of small defense stretcher. Nelson had one amazing play and produced well last year in limited opportunities but unless John Brown has an extended absence, it's hard to get too excited
Tier 1 (aka standard league interest):
Davante Adams (and Ty Montgomery, if still available) -- it looks like there could be a changing of the guard in GB. From Matt Harmon:
Yards of separation for GB WR
Jack Doyle -- UDFA who came out of nowhere but is producing consistently in a high volume offense. What's not to like about that?
Tier 2 (aka deeper league interest):
Marqise Lee -- I'm not fully sold on him but has the draft pedigree, college production and athleticism to be a useful player. Right now looks like the best WR on the team but AR15 will continue to receive opportunities to rekindle 2015 magic
C.J. Fiedorowicz -- was the first pick of the 3rd round a couple of years ago. Profiled as a solid all-around TE but appears to have a talent for finding the seems. Passes the eye test, the primary drawbacks are his QB and competition for targets
Cordarelle Patterson -- snap counts for the last 4 games: 9%, 49%, 61%, 67%. 0.5 PPR points: 1.5, 6.5, 12.6, 16.2. Noticing a trend here? We know he's dangerous with the ball in his hands and finally seems to have earned trust from the coaching staff
Tier 3 (aka want a RB lottery ticket?)
Ka'Deem Carey -- has outperformed Howard and Langford is probably out until after the bye. It's possible that Carey gets a week to start and show what he can do; regardless, he's established himself as part of the rotation and has looked like Chicago's best RB in limited opportunities. Absolute stud in college who posted terrible combine numbers but passes the eye test
Paul Perkins -- Jennings is toast, Perkins will have a bigger role coming out of the bye. The main concern is that he'll end up in a committee on a team that cannot run
Robert Kelley -- Matt Jones has a knack for rising to the occasion when his job is on the line and it probably is again. Thompson was the primary beneficiary last week although, at 5'8" and 195 lbs, he won't be a 3-down back if Jones is replaced. That falls on Kelley, who was a preseason sensation and has looked good in limited work
Dwayne Washington -- it seems like he was closer to playing than Riddick and no one has stepped up to take the job in their absence. On the other hand, once Riddick is back, he will cap the upside for other backs here
Tier 4:
Russell Shepard -- was an elite HS athlete but didn't do much in college and was an UDFA in 2013. Has been a career special teams player and, while he looked good last week, he only played in 36% of the offensive snaps. Doubtless he'll get more opportunities going forward but how many?
JJ Nelson -- the main question here is opportunity, as there is simply too much overlap with John Brown in the role of small defense stretcher. Nelson had one amazing play and produced well last year in limited opportunities but unless John Brown has an extended absence, it's hard to get too excited
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I have no chance at him he'll get grabbed this week for sure. I assume Montgomery and Adams also get claimed.
thehoch
Footballguy
JJ Nelson.....They need a spark on offense....Jaron Brown is done. He turned seven targets into three catches for 84 yards Sunday night. Fitz is getting a lot of usage.....you just never know. With a strong running game, and Nelson's speed....He could have some big games. I recall last year he had a game with a TD or two and 150 yards. He's a stud if he gets the chance.
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I'm taking a long look at CJ Fiedorowicz in my 16-team league where we start a TE/WR flex. He's been solid ever since he took the job away from Griffin. He probably won't do anything tonight, but next week gets Detroit, which has given up 3rd most FFPA to TEs. Not sure I'll put him above Shepard in my claim, but he's not a bad fallback option.
Actually, here's a good #protip: If you have an end-of-bench scrub you're planning on dropping for your waiver claim, drop him now and pick up CJ before tonight's game. You can always change your mind tomorrow and put in an actual waiver claim for whoever else you want. And if he does blow up tonight, you already have him for free.
Actually, here's a good #protip: If you have an end-of-bench scrub you're planning on dropping for your waiver claim, drop him now and pick up CJ before tonight's game. You can always change your mind tomorrow and put in an actual waiver claim for whoever else you want. And if he does blow up tonight, you already have him for free.
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I don't know if Thursday's game will be typical, but given how well it's working, I could definitely see him carving out a Riddick/Woodhead type of role for himself. I sure as hell don't see Jackson or Davis posing much of a threat. Maybe when Starks comes back, but it's not like he's ever been a workhorse either.
sho nuff
Footballguy
His targets so far this year.
7, 7, 2, 8, 3, 16
Yeah..he isn't getting that 16 again. But he has been pretty consistent this year. The 2 came against Minnesota where WRs have crappy days. The 3 was when he got hurt against Dallas.
Otherwise...he is consistently getting targeted this year and has scored pretty well.
Im not arguing against Montgomery here either. I think his role out of the backfield is going to last for a while.
Well yeah, him and moncrief and dorsett too. Allen always seems to be dinged up tho and Luck loves him some TE
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
I'm a bit intrigued by this guy and interested in hearing more about him given the dearth of WR options that aren't on rosters already. On one hand, I am not sure how many targets he'll get after Evans gets his weekly 10-15, but it's not like there are a ton of receiving options beyond Evans - and Winston will obviously throw the ball more than 20-25 times a game.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Free agency and he's still there. Only 4 bench spots. QRWTFFKD - I didn't want to drop Gio Bernard for him or Fuller. I have no chance at him this week. I will be likely trying for Adams/Montgomery/Moncrief.
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
What I did yesterday. Definitely with that Detroit game in mind. Not starting this week in Denver but wouldn't be surprising if targets filtered his & Griffin's way against them with DB's locking on outside. Biggest concern is obviously Osweiler flopping hard during any game.
I actually can't follow my own advice. The guy I want to drop (Garcon) spot-started for me yesterday, and Yahoo won't let you drop a starter for a guy who hasn't played yet (I assume because that could theoretically mean I'd be using the same roster slot for two different starters, even though there's no way CJ could start for me this week).
What I did yesterday. Definitely with that Detroit game in mind. Not starting this week in Denver but wouldn't be surprising if targets filtered his & Griffin's way against them with DB's locking on outside. Biggest concern is obviously Osweiler flopping hard during any game.
Good news is I don't expect him to be a hot waiver claim, especially if he gets shut down tonight.
zamboni
Footballguy
This is a good one, particularly for PPR. Jones seems to have nine lives with Gruden, but doing a good job of to fumbling his way onto the bench. Whether it's Jones or Kelley as the grinder, Thompson seems to have carved out a Vereen-type pass catching role that can also run between the tackles.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Adam Thielen is he is still available.
davewwright
Footballguy
Depends on how short a bench and your scoring system. Ajayi has had two huge games, but can he sustain with teams having a few weeks of tape? Put the ball in Tannehill's hands and wait for the mistakes.
From a talent and opportunity perspective Coleman and Moncrief are far superior skils-wise, and they will have McGowan and Luck getting the ball to them.
FUBAR
Footballguy
As the evans owner in a 16 team dyno, I traded to the top waiver pick to get shepard. I need some depth and in this league you need to jump quick or lose out. I had picked up shorts thinking he'd be the 2, clearly I was wrong.
Were you? I know Shepard outperformed him this past week, but are we certain he's locked in as WR2?
Thats what's making me nervous about grabbing Shepard. I don't want to get Ogletreed.
btemp
Footballguy
Shepard has deserved to be the WR2 since going back to last year. He's a good route runner with strong hands.
What concerns me is the return of Cecil Shorts and Louis Murphy. In every opportunity Shepard has shown he deserves more playing time - yet has never gotten it. They also talked about wanting to get him the ball because Kelly cut him last time. Does this mean he'll see these opportunities going forwards for was it a 1 game thing?
What concerns me is the return of Cecil Shorts and Louis Murphy. In every opportunity Shepard has shown he deserves more playing time - yet has never gotten it. They also talked about wanting to get him the ball because Kelly cut him last time. Does this mean he'll see these opportunities going forwards for was it a 1 game thing?
Tanner9919
Footballguy
Hey I dont want to rain on your parade but have you watched the giants this year? They CANT run block. And even if they could, Ben Mac isnt calling running plays. They MOST definitely will NOT change into the Cowboys run first team coming off a bye ..this year's D. Johnson is wishful thinking , Im afraid...Crystalsteam99 said:
Giants havent had a decent running game in several years now and it wont happen this year either.you are better snagging Chris Thompson if he's on the waiver wire in your league.
need2know
Footballguy
i think i am going to pick him up this week but let him ride the bench, if he has another good game vs oak he will be snatched up fast
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
i cant believe Arian Foster retired
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
McAdoo has actually called quite a few run plays in the RZ. It's killing Eli owners like myself so I've certainly noticed it.
Gandalf
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
PFT says deal isn't currently imminent. But that would be interesting. Smelter to the roster?
zamboni
Footballguy
Yup, although that 3rd year WR rule was dispelled long ago - guys who hit often did in year two or year four just as much as year three. Nowadays WRs come from pro-style offenses and hit the ground running. But I digress - Patterson has the measurables, but hard to imagine that he's honed his craft at this point.
Desperately need to pick up a WR/TE this week to avoid starting TWilliams @Denver. Here are the claims I put in:
- Adams (but I won't get him)
- Fiedorowicz
- RShepard
shadyridr
Footballguy
Shepard is not a rookie. This is actually his 4th year in the league and has been a special teams captain for the Bucs the last two years. I know little about him but he seems to be fools gold to me.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I posted last week in his player thread I'd be making a large bid. Several posters advised it was a waste of time, that's he like every other WR3 who would have a good game once in awhile but impossible to predict when.
I'm using 20-25% of my FABB on Adams (picked up/started Montgomery for last week's game.) Ty has a role as a RB/H-back, he should see plenty of touches over the next month. Hard to say he still has a role if the RBs get healthy after Thanksgiving. If McCarthy is going to use the short passing game as the de facto ball control game plan, both he and Adams will see 10+ targets most weeks.
We have an atypical situation in my league, both Adams (concussion protocol last week) and Moncrief (shoulder, running on the side last week, possibly practicing this week) were dropped by owners jammed up by bye weeks.
I am probably looking to drop 30-40% on of my remaining FABB on the Colts WR2. For the stretch run I'm thinking in a volume offense he could play a significant role in the FF playoffs.
It's pretty rare to use that much of your budget in the same week but it's hard to imagine the scenario where I'll see two upside WRs becoming available ROS. I'm content at all of my other positions - decent RBs, upside lotto tickets, serviceable QBs, K, DST, Olsen at TE - but WR has been a weak point. Drafted Nuk at 1.05.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
FWIW FBGs is advising 50+% on Moncrief, 25-50% on Adams.
Obviously adjust accordingly if you think you know your league mates bidding patterns.
(and Moncrief was probably held in most competitive leagues.)
Obviously adjust accordingly if you think you know your league mates bidding patterns.
(and Moncrief was probably held in most competitive leagues.)
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Sure, though I don't want to overreact to his performance vs. a Top 2 defense that knows all of his weaknesses.
I think CJ mostly has value as a spot start this week. After that, I'll re-evaluate. But I could see him emerging as a this year's Barnidge ROS (or at least a poor man's Barnidge).
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
In a short bench league: How do you rank these: Moncrief, Snead, Adams, Montgomery. (PPR, Flex)
Also I suspect Fuller may be dropped in some short bench leagues this week. Is he better than the above?
Also I suspect Fuller may be dropped in some short bench leagues this week. Is he better than the above?
FF Nerd
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I think as Gates gets healthier it could be a split down the stretch. I saw Ladarius Green may practice this week. When Ben returns he could be valuable down the playoff stretch.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
They don't like Bolden as an RB, he's a special teamer first, so this wouldn't surprise me. Still not sure if it translates to anything fantasy-wise unless Blount were to get hurt (and with lewis eventually coming back).
