well if this doesn't freak you out, it should a little (1 Viewer)

[tommyboy]

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpbs

there's a lot to read, here's a snippet

Around 1:00 AM on April 16, at least one individual (possibly two) entered two different manholes at the PG&E Metcalf power substation, southeast of San Jose, and cut fiber cables in the area around the substation. That knocked out some local 911 services, landline service to the substation, and cell phone service in the area, a senior U.S. intelligence official told Foreign Policy. The intruder(s) then fired more than 100 rounds from what two officials described as a high-powered rifle at several transformers in the facility. Ten transformers were damaged in one area of the facility, and three transformer banks -- or groups of transformers -- were hit in another, according to a PG&E spokesman.

Cooling oil then leaked from a transformer bank, causing the transformers to overheat and shut down. State regulators urged customers in the area to conserve energy over the following days, but there was no long-term damage reported at the facility and there were no major power outages. There were no injuries reported. That was the good news. The bad news is that officials don't know who the shooter(s) were, and most importantly, whether further attacks are planned.

"Initially, the attack was being treated as vandalism and handled by local law enforcement," the senior intelligence official said. "However, investigators have been quoted in the press expressing opinions that there are indications that the timing of the attacks and target selection indicate a higher level of planning and sophistication."

- See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpuf

 

[AAABatteries]

In before all the crazies show up to turn this in to a political debate.

 

[McGarnicle]

Bush never would have let this happen.

 

[shadyridr]

No long term damage, no injuries, if its terrorism it sounds like the worst terrorists ever

 

[MaxThreshold]

Bush never would have let this happen.

BOOM!

 

[roadkill1292]

We're not spending enough money to keep Otis perfectly safe.

 

[Otis]

We're not spending enough money to keep Otis perfectly safe.

Seriously.

 

[Otis]

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpbs

there's a lot to read, here's a snippet

Around 1:00 AM on April 16, at least one individual (possibly two) entered two different manholes at the PG&E Metcalf power substation, southeast of San Jose, and cut fiber cables in the area around the substation. That knocked out some local 911 services, landline service to the substation, and cell phone service in the area, a senior U.S. intelligence official told Foreign Policy. The intruder(s) then fired more than 100 rounds from what two officials described as a high-powered rifle at several transformers in the facility. Ten transformers were damaged in one area of the facility, and three transformer banks -- or groups of transformers -- were hit in another, according to a PG&E spokesman.

Cooling oil then leaked from a transformer bank, causing the transformers to overheat and shut down. State regulators urged customers in the area to conserve energy over the following days, but there was no long-term damage reported at the facility and there were no major power outages. There were no injuries reported. That was the good news. The bad news is that officials don't know who the shooter(s) were, and most importantly, whether further attacks are planned.

"Initially, the attack was being treated as vandalism and handled by local law enforcement," the senior intelligence official said. "However, investigators have been quoted in the press expressing opinions that there are indications that the timing of the attacks and target selection indicate a higher level of planning and sophistication."

- See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpuf

If this is real why isn't it reported on a real news outlet?

 

[McGarnicle]

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpbs

there's a lot to read, here's a snippet

Around 1:00 AM on April 16, at least one individual (possibly two) entered two different manholes at the PG&E Metcalf power substation, southeast of San Jose, and cut fiber cables in the area around the substation. That knocked out some local 911 services, landline service to the substation, and cell phone service in the area, a senior U.S. intelligence official told Foreign Policy. The intruder(s) then fired more than 100 rounds from what two officials described as a high-powered rifle at several transformers in the facility. Ten transformers were damaged in one area of the facility, and three transformer banks -- or groups of transformers -- were hit in another, according to a PG&E spokesman.

Cooling oil then leaked from a transformer bank, causing the transformers to overheat and shut down. State regulators urged customers in the area to conserve energy over the following days, but there was no long-term damage reported at the facility and there were no major power outages. There were no injuries reported. That was the good news. The bad news is that officials don't know who the shooter(s) were, and most importantly, whether further attacks are planned.

"Initially, the attack was being treated as vandalism and handled by local law enforcement," the senior intelligence official said. "However, investigators have been quoted in the press expressing opinions that there are indications that the timing of the attacks and target selection indicate a higher level of planning and sophistication."- See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpuf

If this is real why isn't it reported on a real news outlet?

The liberal media would be all over this if it happened on Bush's watch.

 

[MaxThreshold]

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpbs

there's a lot to read, here's a snippet

Around 1:00 AM on April 16, at least one individual (possibly two) entered two different manholes at the PG&E Metcalf power substation, southeast of San Jose, and cut fiber cables in the area around the substation. That knocked out some local 911 services, landline service to the substation, and cell phone service in the area, a senior U.S. intelligence official told Foreign Policy. The intruder(s) then fired more than 100 rounds from what two officials described as a high-powered rifle at several transformers in the facility. Ten transformers were damaged in one area of the facility, and three transformer banks -- or groups of transformers -- were hit in another, according to a PG&E spokesman.

Cooling oil then leaked from a transformer bank, causing the transformers to overheat and shut down. State regulators urged customers in the area to conserve energy over the following days, but there was no long-term damage reported at the facility and there were no major power outages. There were no injuries reported. That was the good news. The bad news is that officials don't know who the shooter(s) were, and most importantly, whether further attacks are planned.

"Initially, the attack was being treated as vandalism and handled by local law enforcement," the senior intelligence official said. "However, investigators have been quoted in the press expressing opinions that there are indications that the timing of the attacks and target selection indicate a higher level of planning and sophistication."- See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpuf

If this is real why isn't it reported on a real news outlet?

The liberal media would be all over this if it happened on Bush's watch.

BOOM!

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Stealing wire and shooting guns. Sounds like a typical weekend for most meth users.

 

[NutterButter]

I'm not freaked out a little. What does that mean?

 

[DiStefano]

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpbs

there's a lot to read, here's a snippet

Around 1:00 AM on April 16, at least one individual (possibly two) entered two different manholes at the PG&E Metcalf power substation, southeast of San Jose, and cut fiber cables in the area around the substation. That knocked out some local 911 services, landline service to the substation, and cell phone service in the area, a senior U.S. intelligence official told Foreign Policy. The intruder(s) then fired more than 100 rounds from what two officials described as a high-powered rifle at several transformers in the facility. Ten transformers were damaged in one area of the facility, and three transformer banks -- or groups of transformers -- were hit in another, according to a PG&E spokesman.

Cooling oil then leaked from a transformer bank, causing the transformers to overheat and shut down. State regulators urged customers in the area to conserve energy over the following days, but there was no long-term damage reported at the facility and there were no major power outages. There were no injuries reported. That was the good news. The bad news is that officials don't know who the shooter(s) were, and most importantly, whether further attacks are planned.

"Initially, the attack was being treated as vandalism and handled by local law enforcement," the senior intelligence official said. "However, investigators have been quoted in the press expressing opinions that there are indications that the timing of the attacks and target selection indicate a higher level of planning and sophistication."- See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpuf

If this is real why isn't it reported on a real news outlet?

The liberal media would be all over this if it happened on Bush's watch.

Not at all. The real news was about self gifting, one two or even 10 times.

 

[Otis]

Glad this instantly became about politics. I was afraid we might learn something about threats to our livelihoods and whatnot.

 

[AAABatteries]

Glad this instantly became about politics. I was afraid we might learn something about threats to our livelihoods and whatnot.

I tried to warn you people in post #2.

 

[NCCommish]

From reading around I am leaning more toward someone with an issue with the companies doing this rather than a terrorism aspect. What was done was mainly done to cause infrastructure problems not to really harm people directly.

 

[mquinnjr]

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpbs

there's a lot to read, here's a snippet

Around 1:00 AM on April 16, at least one individual (possibly two) entered two different manholes at the PG&E Metcalf power substation, southeast of San Jose, and cut fiber cables in the area around the substation. That knocked out some local 911 services, landline service to the substation, and cell phone service in the area, a senior U.S. intelligence official told Foreign Policy. The intruder(s) then fired more than 100 rounds from what two officials described as a high-powered rifle at several transformers in the facility. Ten transformers were damaged in one area of the facility, and three transformer banks -- or groups of transformers -- were hit in another, according to a PG&E spokesman.

Cooling oil then leaked from a transformer bank, causing the transformers to overheat and shut down. State regulators urged customers in the area to conserve energy over the following days, but there was no long-term damage reported at the facility and there were no major power outages. There were no injuries reported. That was the good news. The bad news is that officials don't know who the shooter(s) were, and most importantly, whether further attacks are planned.

"Initially, the attack was being treated as vandalism and handled by local law enforcement," the senior intelligence official said. "However, investigators have been quoted in the press expressing opinions that there are indications that the timing of the attacks and target selection indicate a higher level of planning and sophistication."- See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpuf

If this is real why isn't it reported on a real news outlet?

The liberal media would be all over this if it happened on Bush's watch.

BOOM!

 

[Rayderr]

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpbs

there's a lot to read, here's a snippet

Around 1:00 AM on April 16, at least one individual (possibly two) entered two different manholes at the PG&E Metcalf power substation, southeast of San Jose, and cut fiber cables in the area around the substation. That knocked out some local 911 services, landline service to the substation, and cell phone service in the area, a senior U.S. intelligence official told Foreign Policy. The intruder(s) then fired more than 100 rounds from what two officials described as a high-powered rifle at several transformers in the facility. Ten transformers were damaged in one area of the facility, and three transformer banks -- or groups of transformers -- were hit in another, according to a PG&E spokesman.

Cooling oil then leaked from a transformer bank, causing the transformers to overheat and shut down. State regulators urged customers in the area to conserve energy over the following days, but there was no long-term damage reported at the facility and there were no major power outages. There were no injuries reported. That was the good news. The bad news is that officials don't know who the shooter(s) were, and most importantly, whether further attacks are planned.

"Initially, the attack was being treated as vandalism and handled by local law enforcement," the senior intelligence official said. "However, investigators have been quoted in the press expressing opinions that there are indications that the timing of the attacks and target selection indicate a higher level of planning and sophistication."

- See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.wl8gokGt.PMbNsm3F.dpuf

If this is real why isn't it reported on a real news outlet?

And why is it just now being reported 8 months later?

 

[Otis]

Yeah pretty sure this is fake. Good shtick though.

 

[[icon]]

IT'S A FALSE FLAG, PEOPLE!!!

 

[Riversco]

Sounds like someone wanted to steal copper wires and decided to cut the power so no alarms were set off.

 

[Riversco]

Otis should be safe unless he is made of copper.

 

[jon_mx]

From reading around I am leaning more toward someone with an issue with the companies doing this rather than a terrorism aspect. What was done was mainly done to cause infrastructure problems not to really harm people directly.

Assuming it was real and they were terrorists, it could be a dry run to see what kind of damage a small cell of terrorists could do to the power and communication networks so they can maximize the damage on a larger scale attack.

 

[msommer]

From reading around I am leaning more toward someone with an issue with the companies doing this rather than a terrorism aspect. What was done was mainly done to cause infrastructure problems not to really harm people directly.

Assuming it was real and they were terrorists, it could be a dry run to see what kind of damage a small cell of terrorists could do to the power and communication networks so they can maximize the damage on a larger scale attack.

And I guess the answer to that question is: "Not much"

 

[arrow1]

Where's Mr. Ham?

 

[The Commish]

I thought it was well known that our power grid was held together with bubble gum and twine. Probably one of the easier ways to "hit" us and I'm kinda surprised it's never happened.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

From reading around I am leaning more toward someone with an issue with the companies doing this rather than a terrorism aspect. What was done was mainly done to cause infrastructure problems not to really harm people directly.

Assuming it was real and they were terrorists, it could be a dry run to see what kind of damage a small cell of terrorists could do to the power and communication networks so they can maximize the damage on a larger scale attack.

Terrorists generally don't do "dry runs" because it tends to tip off the police.

 

[NCCommish]

Yeah pretty sure this is fake. Good shtick though.

There was an awful lot of coverage for a fake.

 

[Fennis]

My internet still works tho right?

 

[Otis]

Yeah pretty sure this is fake. Good shtick though.

There was an awful lot of coverage for a fake.

Coverage where? Can I get a better source than barstoolsports or wherever the linked article comes from.

 

[Fennis]

Yeah pretty sure this is fake. Good shtick though.

There was an awful lot of coverage for a fake.

Coverage where? Can I get a better source than barstoolsports or wherever the linked article comes from.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23388359/san-jose-sheriffs-office-release-video-attack-pg

 

[Fennis]

This didn't freak me out

 

[Rayderr]

I thought it was well known that our power grid was held together with bubble gum and twine. Probably one of the easier ways to "hit" us and I'm kinda surprised it's never happened.

The terrorist plots seen in shows like "24" are just fiction. We're much more likely to see something like what's going on over in russia right now.

 

[The Commish]

I thought it was well known that our power grid was held together with bubble gum and twine. Probably one of the easier ways to "hit" us and I'm kinda surprised it's never happened.

The terrorist plots seen in shows like "24" are just fiction. We're much more likely to see something like what's going on over in russia right now.

Ok? Doesn't change anything I posted. It'd be relatively easy to bring large portions of our country to it's knees with a hit to a few places. This isn't new or some talking point.

 

[Rayderr]

I thought it was well known that our power grid was held together with bubble gum and twine. Probably one of the easier ways to "hit" us and I'm kinda surprised it's never happened.

The terrorist plots seen in shows like "24" are just fiction. We're much more likely to see something like what's going on over in russia right now.

Ok? Doesn't change anything I posted. It'd be relatively easy to bring large portions of our country to it's knees with a hit to a few places. This isn't new or some talking point.

Those places aren't very easy to hit.

 

[The Commish]

I thought it was well known that our power grid was held together with bubble gum and twine. Probably one of the easier ways to "hit" us and I'm kinda surprised it's never happened.

The terrorist plots seen in shows like "24" are just fiction. We're much more likely to see something like what's going on over in russia right now.

Ok? Doesn't change anything I posted. It'd be relatively easy to bring large portions of our country to it's knees with a hit to a few places. This isn't new or some talking point.

Those places aren't very easy to hit.

Do you even know what places I am talking about?

 

[Rayderr]

I thought it was well known that our power grid was held together with bubble gum and twine. Probably one of the easier ways to "hit" us and I'm kinda surprised it's never happened.

The terrorist plots seen in shows like "24" are just fiction. We're much more likely to see something like what's going on over in russia right now.

Ok? Doesn't change anything I posted. It'd be relatively easy to bring large portions of our country to it's knees with a hit to a few places. This isn't new or some talking point.

Those places aren't very easy to hit.

Do you even know what places I am talking about?

Yes.

 

[The Commish]

I thought it was well known that our power grid was held together with bubble gum and twine. Probably one of the easier ways to "hit" us and I'm kinda surprised it's never happened.

The terrorist plots seen in shows like "24" are just fiction. We're much more likely to see something like what's going on over in russia right now.

Ok? Doesn't change anything I posted. It'd be relatively easy to bring large portions of our country to it's knees with a hit to a few places. This isn't new or some talking point.

Those places aren't very easy to hit.

Do you even know what places I am talking about?

Yes.

Ok....so, when you make a comment like this, what places are you talking about??

 

[TheIronSheik]

I thought it was well known that our power grid was held together with bubble gum and twine. Probably one of the easier ways to "hit" us and I'm kinda surprised it's never happened.

The terrorist plots seen in shows like "24" are just fiction. We're much more likely to see something like what's going on over in russia right now.

Ok? Doesn't change anything I posted. It'd be relatively easy to bring large portions of our country to it's knees with a hit to a few places. This isn't new or some talking point.

Those places aren't very easy to hit.

Do you even know what places I am talking about?

Yes.

Ok....so, when you make a comment like this, what places are you talking about??

Shermer, Illinois?

 

[TheIronSheik]

The intruder(s) then fired more than 100 rounds from what two officials described as a high-powered rifle at several transformers in the facility. Ten transformers were damaged in one area of the facility, and three transformer banks -- or groups of transformers -- were hit in another, according to a PG&E spokesman.

This sounds like the work of the Decepticons. Has anyone seen Soundwave recently?

 

[Rayderr]

I thought it was well known that our power grid was held together with bubble gum and twine. Probably one of the easier ways to "hit" us and I'm kinda surprised it's never happened.

The terrorist plots seen in shows like "24" are just fiction. We're much more likely to see something like what's going on over in russia right now.

Ok? Doesn't change anything I posted. It'd be relatively easy to bring large portions of our country to it's knees with a hit to a few places. This isn't new or some talking point.

Those places aren't very easy to hit.

Do you even know what places I am talking about?

Yes.

Ok....so, when you make a comment like this, what places are you talking about??

You're trying to recreate a situation like what happened in the North East in 2003. That's not as easy to replicate as that was a software failure rather than physical damage. On a much lesser scale, you had the San Diego outage 2 years ago, caused by sub station outage, which unto itself had limited effect. It was the San Onofre going off line as part of safety protocol as a result of the grid disruption that put most people without power. power was fully restored in that situation in about 12 hours. And since then, additional lines have been put in to help prevent a similar situation from happening.

You could go after substations, but, really, all you'd be doing is creating a minor inconvenience. We get longer power outages from bad weather. Going after the actual power plants is not an easy task.

 

[jamny]

Yeah pretty sure this is fake. Good shtick though.

There was an awful lot of coverage for a fake.

Coverage where? Can I get a better source than barstoolsports or wherever the linked article comes from.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23388359/san-jose-sheriffs-office-release-video-attack-pg

This just seems to sounds like some yahoos taking shots at some transformers. The link in the OP states that people entered through a manhole into the substation and cut fiber wires, which sounds a little more like something planned and someone with knowledge of the site.

 

[Tom Servo]

From reading around I am leaning more toward someone with an issue with the companies doing this rather than a terrorism aspect. What was done was mainly done to cause infrastructure problems not to really harm people directly.

As your resident electric utility expert, I am inclined to agree. Terrorism would involve blowing up transmission towers or screwing with generation so that it drops below 60 hertz (pretty much by 59.75 Hz we're shutting things down).

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

West coast folks please check in so we know you are still alive

 

[tdoss]

West coast folks please check in so we know you are still alive

We're still here...do we have to stop surfing? Otherwise...go easy on the false alarms, brah.

 

[Joe Summer]

The intruder(s) then fired more than 100 rounds from what two officials described as a high-powered rifle at several transformers in the facility. Ten transformers were damaged in one area of the facility, and three transformer banks -- or groups of transformers -- were hit in another, according to a PG&E spokesman.

This sounds like the work of the Decepticons. Has anyone seen Soundwave recently?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Can't wait to read about terrorist attacks that are going on now...in May.

 

[jamny]

Sniper assault on US power station could have been the rehearsal for an 'even bigger terrorist attack', warns industry expert

• As many as two gunmen stormed the PG&E Metcalf substation in California on April 16 last year
• Former chairman of the Federal Energy commission branded the attack 'the most significant domestic terrorist assault on the grid'
• Jon Wellinghoff, who stepped down in November, was moved to speak publicly for fears over national security
• He and colleagues believe the attack was a 'dress rehearsal' to a much larger and more serious incident
• FBI investigating but say they do not believe terrorist group is responsible

 

[Fennis]

This didn't freak me out

 

[The Commish]

I thought it was well known that our power grid was held together with bubble gum and twine. Probably one of the easier ways to "hit" us and I'm kinda surprised it's never happened.

The terrorist plots seen in shows like "24" are just fiction. We're much more likely to see something like what's going on over in russia right now.

Ok? Doesn't change anything I posted. It'd be relatively easy to bring large portions of our country to it's knees with a hit to a few places. This isn't new or some talking point.

Those places aren't very easy to hit.

Do you even know what places I am talking about?

Yes.

Ok....so, when you make a comment like this, what places are you talking about??

You're trying to recreate a situation like what happened in the North East in 2003. That's not as easy to replicate as that was a software failure rather than physical damage. On a much lesser scale, you had the San Diego outage 2 years ago, caused by sub station outage, which unto itself had limited effect. It was the San Onofre going off line as part of safety protocol as a result of the grid disruption that put most people without power. power was fully restored in that situation in about 12 hours. And since then, additional lines have been put in to help prevent a similar situation from happening.

You could go after substations, but, really, all you'd be doing is creating a minor inconvenience. We get longer power outages from bad weather. Going after the actual power plants is not an easy task.

Yeah, you assumed wrong. i wasn't talking about actual power plants. The technology infrastructure part of our power grid is incredibly feeble. I guess that wasn't well known.