What is a "blind bidding waiver"? (1 Viewer)

[qwertvt]

I was looking at the FFPC satellite and it said there were blind bidding waivers. What are they?

What/Who is FFPC?

Thanks in advance.

 

[mr roboto]

Waivers are bid upon. Player goes to the highest bidder (instead of reverse standing order or first come or other organizing principles). Each owner has $x for the year to spend on waivers.

 

[MattFancy]

I'm trying to convince one of my leagues to change to this. No one seems interested. Instead our genius commish thinks doing a reverse standings waiver order every week is a great idea.

 

[qwertvt]

Thanks. Although blind bidding is self explanatory, I wasn't sure where the $ for the bidding originated.

Sounds like a fun way to compete.

 

[Ilov80s]

If a league isn't doing this, the league is amateur.

 

[Jack White]

If a league isn't doing this, the league is amateur.

I have to agree with 80s here.

We use a blind bid waiver budget of $200 for the season.

It gives every owner a chance at any and every free agent.

There's more strategy to it than priority waivers, which makes it more fun.

 

[Chapelboy]

If a league isn't doing this, the league is amateur.

Wow. Rather than saying a league is amateur, I would say it's traditional and follows the NFL style. Following your logic, I should say that if you aren't playing in at least a 16 team IDP, 35 man roster minimum, salary/contract league using actual NFL contracts, then you are an amateur....of course I would never say that

 

[Jack White]

If a league isn't doing this, the league is amateur.

Wow. Rather than saying a league is amateur, I would say it's traditional and follows the NFL style. Following your logic, I should say that if you aren't playing in at least a 16 team IDP, 35 man roster minimum, salary/contract league using actual NFL contracts, then you are an amateur....of course I would never say that

Defending (or criticizing) any feature of fantasy football by saying it mimics the NFL is pointless.

Otherwise, there would be no such thing as an auction draft. Which most people who try it seem to love.

I prefer blind bid waivers for two main reasons:

It requires more thought and strategy, which makes it more fun.

I'm generally not in favor of any rule that rewards failure, which is what priority waivers does.

 

[SeanTaylor21]

Our 10 team IDP PPR dynasty implemented this two years ago and it's been a hit.

Ours works like this: Each Monday in the offseason after the draft, you can begin placing blind bids on any available FA at Noon EST. Each team gets $100 free/fake money to use for the offseason and $100 for the regular season to use during this period (mind you, it's for the whole offseason/season so buyer beware). Each corresponding Thursday at 6:00PM EST, the blind bids process and FAs are rewarded to the highest bidder.

To echo what Jack Blanco said above, it's great way not to reward failure. It also allows for 'equal' access to place bids throughout the week because everybody has the same amount of time to bid (vs. first come, first serve where the busy managers and the 'busy' managers "have different access to add players"). Another benefit of the blind bidding is that we can use it as a punishment method for owners who don't pay on time or make cuts on time, as that can be difficult for managers who don't seem to make it a priority to follow rules. By locking them out of blind bids and/or taking some of their blind bidding allowance, it gives a sort of punishment.

The real beauty is that if you're using MFL, your league can customize the amount, time period, etc. to meet the needs of the league.

 

[WampusCat43]

After the bids are processed, waivers become first-come, first-served. You'll have owners that will lazily wait for that. You'll also have their money in your pocket at the end of the season.

 

[MattFancy]

If a league isn't doing this, the league is amateur.

Wow. Rather than saying a league is amateur, I would say it's traditional and follows the NFL style. Following your logic, I should say that if you aren't playing in at least a 16 team IDP, 35 man roster minimum, salary/contract league using actual NFL contracts, then you are an amateur....of course I would never say that

Defending (or criticizing) any feature of fantasy football by saying it mimics the NFL is pointless.

Otherwise, there would be no such thing as an auction draft. Which most people who try it seem to love.

I prefer blind bid waivers for two main reasons:

It requires more thought and strategy, which makes it more fun.

I'm generally not in favor of any rule that rewards failure, which is what priority waivers does.

Agreed. If people want to make their fantasy leagues more "real", then they need to go full IDP, only have 1 QB and then 5 flex spots, only count TDs for points, etc.

I hate when people want to use that excuse.

 

[Ilov80s]

The only thing worse than not using FAB is when leagues don't lock players once their game starts and owners can just add players mid-game.

 

[ShamrockPride]

BB is the only way to go with free agents. If you want to reward poorly performing teams...well, that's what the draft is for. I guess I should add I am speaking on dynasty leagues.

 

[strykerpks]

Our league just switched to FAB for this year after many years of debate. For those of you on CBS how do you handle Sunday morning pickups for late scratches etc?

For everyone else how do you have it worded in your bylaws?

 

[Ilov80s]

Our league just switched to FAB for this year after many years of debate. For those of you on CBS how do you handle Sunday morning pickups for late scratches etc?

For everyone else how do you have it worded in your bylaws?

The blind bidding should be over well before Sunday so you are just free to add and drop untill the players's game starts.

 

[qwertvt]

What sites offer blind bidding?

 

[MattFancy]

What sites offer blind bidding?

Think just about all of them at this point. I know for sure ESPN does

 

[Shutout]

I'm trying to convince one of my leagues to change to this. No one seems interested. Instead our genius commish thinks doing a reverse standings waiver order every week is a great idea.

I'll keep you in mind when we have an opening. Nobody should be forced to play in leagues like that.

BB----auctions---21 century stuff people.

 

[strykerpks]

Our league just switched to FAB for this year after many years of debate. For those of you on CBS how do you handle Sunday morning pickups for late scratches etc?

For everyone else how do you have it worded in your bylaws?

The blind bidding should be over well before Sunday so you are just free to add and drop untill the players's game starts.

According to CBS it's ether all FAAB or all waivers. There are no add/drop periods with their FAAB system.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Our league just switched to FAB for this year after many years of debate. For those of you on CBS how do you handle Sunday morning pickups for late scratches etc?

For everyone else how do you have it worded in your bylaws?

The blind bidding should be over well before Sunday so you are just free to add and drop untill the players's game starts.

According to CBS it's ether all FAAB or all waivers. There are no add/drop periods with their FAAB system.

Correct. In my one league that still insists on using CBS, some of us wanted to do FAAB followed by FCFS, but CBS doesn't have that capability. Ridiculous given how much they charge.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I'm trying to convince one of my leagues to change to this. No one seems interested. Instead our genius commish thinks doing a reverse standings waiver order every week is a great idea.

It was... in 1987.

 

[mr roboto]

I'm trying to convince one of my leagues to change to this. No one seems interested. Instead our genius commish thinks doing a reverse standings waiver order every week is a great idea.

It was... in 1987.

We have the worst system (but it benefits me cause I pay attention on Sundays). FCFS during games and all week on FA pickups. Only locked players are the ones dropped the previous week. Process those dropped waivers Thursday night/early Fri morning. We took a vote to change it. I argued FOR waivers processed for all FAs and either a bidding system or a worst-first (against my own self interest). These guys don't play in other leagues and don't know how crazy our set up is.

 

[qwertvt]

I apologize for my ignorance on the subject but last year was my first time being successful at FF but it was on Yahoo.

It seems like many of you are in private leagues. Is this a correct assumption or am I just still wet behind the ears?

If there are private leagues, how do you get in?

I looked at the league section of the forum and most are dynasty. I am embarrassed to say that I really don't fully understand these continuation leagues.

In dynasty, do you win $ each year or at the completion of the dynasty?

I also don't understand how you have the same team but there is seemingly a redraft.

I guess I am getting well beyond my OP but when I posted at the Free for All, the responses were all model candidates for Dateline Catch A Predator.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I'm trying to convince one of my leagues to change to this. No one seems interested. Instead our genius commish thinks doing a reverse standings waiver order every week is a great idea.

It was... in 1987.

We have the worst system (but it benefits me cause I pay attention on Sundays). FCFS during games and all week on FA pickups. Only locked players are the ones dropped the previous week. Process those dropped waivers Thursday night/early Fri morning.We took a vote to change it. I argued FOR waivers processed for all FAs and either a bidding system or a worst-first (against my own self interest). These guys don't play in other leagues and don't know how crazy our set up is.

Yeah, that was soooooooo bad.

Heck, my first league some 30 years ago bypassed that option.

But it kept finding its way into my baseball and basketball leagues... just horrible.

 

[Ilov80s]

I apologize for my ignorance on the subject but last year was my first time being successful at FF but it was on Yahoo.

It seems like many of you are in private leagues. Is this a correct assumption or am I just still wet behind the ears?

If there are private leagues, how do you get in?

I looked at the league section of the forum and most are dynasty. I am embarrassed to say that I really don't fully understand these continuation leagues.

In dynasty, do you win $ each year or at the completion of the dynasty?

I also don't understand how you have the same team but there is seemingly a redraft.

I guess I am getting well beyond my OP but when I posted at the Free for All, the responses were all model candidates for Dateline Catch A Predator.

I've in a league for 12 or 13 years now. We are just all friends and family and coworkers. Some have come and gone, but there's a core of 6 that have been in it since the beginning and another 3 that have been in it for 7 or 8 years. You just have to know people that are interested and build the league over time. We just do regular redraft, not dynasty or keeper. I would assume almost every dynasty has a yearly winner and payout. In theory, a dynasty league would never end.

 

[MattFancy]

I'm trying to convince one of my leagues to change to this. No one seems interested. Instead our genius commish thinks doing a reverse standings waiver order every week is a great idea.

I'll keep you in mind when we have an opening. Nobody should be forced to play in leagues like that.

BB----auctions---21 century stuff people.

Currently, we do rolling waivers, which is still dumb. But he thinks going to the reverse standings waiver order will make it more realistic and give the teams in last a better chance. So stupid. So because I know how to manage my team, I should be punished if I lose a player because my team is better than yours?

 

[hotboyz]

Use Rt sports there FAAB system is very good can set it how u want it

 

[pzn]

Our league just switched to FAB for this year after many years of debate. For those of you on CBS how do you handle Sunday morning pickups for late scratches etc?

For everyone else how do you have it worded in your bylaws?

The blind bidding should be over well before Sunday so you are just free to add and drop untill the players's game starts.

According to CBS it's ether all FAAB or all waivers. There are no add/drop periods with their FAAB system.

Correct. In my one league that still insists on using CBS, some of us wanted to do FAAB followed by FCFS, but CBS doesn't have that capability. Ridiculous given how much they charge.

This is the worst! I just convinced my league to go to FAAB system and I have to figure out how to deal with a Free Agent period. CBS gives some roundabout way involving zero bids and the commish checking timestamps as a workaround....ugh, really not sure how to handle this. At least I noticed this prior to wk1!!

 

[themitch]

Our league just switched to FAB for this year after many years of debate. For those of you on CBS how do you handle Sunday morning pickups for late scratches etc?

For everyone else how do you have it worded in your bylaws?

The blind bidding should be over well before Sunday so you are just free to add and drop untill the players's game starts.

According to CBS it's ether all FAAB or all waivers. There are no add/drop periods with their FAAB system.

Correct. In my one league that still insists on using CBS, some of us wanted to do FAAB followed by FCFS, but CBS doesn't have that capability. Ridiculous given how much they charge.

This is the worst! I just convinced my league to go to FAAB system and I have to figure out how to deal with a Free Agent period. CBS gives some roundabout way involving zero bids and the commish checking timestamps as a workaround....ugh, really not sure how to handle this. At least I noticed this prior to wk1!!

My commish found a way to work around this on CBS, not sure how he did it in the background. We are able to bid during the week, but there is an add/drop period as well.

 

[pzn]

Our league just switched to FAB for this year after many years of debate. For those of you on CBS how do you handle Sunday morning pickups for late scratches etc?

For everyone else how do you have it worded in your bylaws?

The blind bidding should be over well before Sunday so you are just free to add and drop untill the players's game starts.

According to CBS it's ether all FAAB or all waivers. There are no add/drop periods with their FAAB system.

Correct. In my one league that still insists on using CBS, some of us wanted to do FAAB followed by FCFS, but CBS doesn't have that capability. Ridiculous given how much they charge.

This is the worst! I just convinced my league to go to FAAB system and I have to figure out how to deal with a Free Agent period. CBS gives some roundabout way involving zero bids and the commish checking timestamps as a workaround....ugh, really not sure how to handle this. At least I noticed this prior to wk1!!

My commish found a way to work around this on CBS, not sure how he did it in the background. We are able to bid during the week, but there is an add/drop period as well.

This is the option CBS gives....seems like a big pain but might be what has to happen...If you can find out what your commish did, it would be very much appreciated...

"Can I make a regular add outside of the auction if my league uses the FAAB system?

There is no hybrid format that combines a FAAB period, followed by a period of first-come, first-served add/drops. However, the following alternative could achieve the desired results, provided the commissioner manually processes the transactions.

Using the “Commish approved auction process to do add/drops FAAB “format and checking the box to “Allow Zero Bids” may be a suitable workaround for many interested leagues. By implementing this feature, owners will be permitted to submit bids for players without having to spend any funds from their FAAB budget.

Under the pending approval queue, labeled “Process FAAB Bids,” the Commissioner will be able to review transactions submitted prior to the deadline. For the days you choose, you can dictate to the owners to submit bids for players where the winning claim is decided by the highest bidder.

On days where Free Agents are meant to be claimed on a first-come, first-served basis, have the owners in your league zero dollar bids for free agents. When reviewing the bids, the submission times will be time-stamped – permitting the commissioner to ensure that the first claim put in will be the winning claim.

Be advised that the “Deadline to Submit Bids” will be the same on all days checked off. Your access to the bid claims will be unavailable until your deadline has passed."

 

[themitch]

Our league just switched to FAB for this year after many years of debate. For those of you on CBS how do you handle Sunday morning pickups for late scratches etc?

For everyone else how do you have it worded in your bylaws?

The blind bidding should be over well before Sunday so you are just free to add and drop untill the players's game starts.

According to CBS it's ether all FAAB or all waivers. There are no add/drop periods with their FAAB system.

Correct. In my one league that still insists on using CBS, some of us wanted to do FAAB followed by FCFS, but CBS doesn't have that capability. Ridiculous given how much they charge.

This is the worst! I just convinced my league to go to FAAB system and I have to figure out how to deal with a Free Agent period. CBS gives some roundabout way involving zero bids and the commish checking timestamps as a workaround....ugh, really not sure how to handle this. At least I noticed this prior to wk1!!

My commish found a way to work around this on CBS, not sure how he did it in the background. We are able to bid during the week, but there is an add/drop period as well.

This is the option CBS gives....seems like a big pain but might be what has to happen...If you can find out what your commish did, it would be very much appreciated...

"Can I make a regular add outside of the auction if my league uses the FAAB system?

There is no hybrid format that combines a FAAB period, followed by a period of first-come, first-served add/drops. However, the following alternative could achieve the desired results, provided the commissioner manually processes the transactions.

Using the “Commish approved auction process to do add/drops FAAB “format and checking the box to “Allow Zero Bids” may be a suitable workaround for many interested leagues. By implementing this feature, owners will be permitted to submit bids for players without having to spend any funds from their FAAB budget.

Under the pending approval queue, labeled “Process FAAB Bids,” the Commissioner will be able to review transactions submitted prior to the deadline. For the days you choose, you can dictate to the owners to submit bids for players where the winning claim is decided by the highest bidder.

On days where Free Agents are meant to be claimed on a first-come, first-served basis, have the owners in your league zero dollar bids for free agents. When reviewing the bids, the submission times will be time-stamped – permitting the commissioner to ensure that the first claim put in will be the winning claim.

Be advised that the “Deadline to Submit Bids” will be the same on all days checked off. Your access to the bid claims will be unavailable until your deadline has passed."

pzn - Just talked to my commish, looks like we did the same process you detailed above. The $0 bids were allowed and he manually went through and approved them. I definitely think there should be a better process.