What to do with two-way players (1 Viewer)

[Itchy Amos]

Hello all, Let me start off by saying that I am a long-time lurker on these boards. There are lots of well-informed people here and I thought that this would be the best place to get an outside opinion on a league matter that probably will affect many leagues before too long.

In today's NFL, there seems to be a growing movement to utilize player versatility by playing someone out of their traditional position. We have seen wide recievers playing defensive back, defensive backs playing wide reciever, line-backers playing tight end and full back, etc, etc. This has created a bit of a gray area for me. In most leagues, if you own a wide reciever or running back who also returns kickoffs and punts, and they return one for a touchdown, you get the points for the return touchdown, even if you dont own that defense/special teams unit. I would say that kickoff return touchdowns are not associated to that person's duties as a wide reciever or running back, yet they receive the benefit (at least in the leagues that I have been in) of their involvement on the defensive/special teams unit.

Yesterday, Mike Vrabel lined up as tight end and caught a touchdown. While he is undoubtedly not listed as a tight end on the New England's roster, I dont think there is much question that he has performed the duties of a tight end on several occasions and with that should be eligible to be used as a tight end for someone's fantasy team. The point of interest with me is that he also had three sacks. If someone were shrewd (or lucky) enough to start him as a tight end for yesterdays game, they got a touch down for their efforts. Are they also deserving of the points for his three sacks?

Another older example of this kind of thing could have occured if someone played Deion Sanders at WR when he was playing both ways for the Ravens. If Deion got an interception, was that scored for Deion Sanders the WR?

If you answer no, please explain how this is different than a wide reciever/running back getting the credit for a return touchdown. Afterall, kick and punt returners are separate positions on a team and points gained from return TDs were not achieved from that person playing WR or RB.

Any input is greatly appreciated.

 

[apalmer]

Hello all, Let me start off by saying that I am a long-time lurker on these boards. There are lots of well-informed people here and I thought that this would be the best place to get an outside opinion on a league matter that probably will affect many leagues before too long. In today's NFL, there seems to be a growing movement to utilize player versatility by playing someone out of their traditional position. We have seen wide recievers playing defensive back, defensive backs playing wide reciever, line-backers playing tight end and full back, etc, etc. This has created a bit of a gray area for me. In most leagues, if you own a wide reciever or running back who also returns kickoffs and punts, and they return one for a touchdown, you get the points for the return touchdown, even if you dont own that defense/special teams unit. I would say that kickoff return touchdowns are not associated to that person's duties as a wide reciever or running back, yet they receive the benefit (at least in the leagues that I have been in) of their involvement on the defensive/special teams unit.Yesterday, Mike Vrabel lined up as tight end and caught a touchdown. While he is undoubtedly not listed as a tight end on the New England's roster, I dont think there is much question that he has performed the duties of a tight end on several occasions and with that should be eligible to be used as a tight end for someone's fantasy team. The point of interest with me is that he also had three sacks. If someone were shrewd (or lucky) enough to start him as a tight end for yesterdays game, they got a touch down for their efforts. Are they also deserving of the points for his three sacks? Another older example of this kind of thing could have occured if someone played Deion Sanders at WR when he was playing both ways for the Ravens. If Deion got an interception, was that scored for Deion Sanders the WR?If you answer no, please explain how this is different than a wide reciever/running back getting the credit for a return touchdown. Afterall, kick and punt returners are separate positions on a team and points gained from return TDs were not achieved from that person playing WR or RB.Any input is greatly appreciated.

Actually, I think he lined up at fullback on the TD. Want to start him at RB? Even at TE, why would you take the chance to start him there when he'd only caught 1 pass all year before yesterday (even if it was also for a TD)? Unless you get more pts. for sacks than TE's usually get for catches/yardage, it seems counterproductive.I've been in a league whre return yardage or pts. count for an individual, so I can't address that issue.

 

[Itchy Amos]

Actually, I believe that Seau lined up as full back for Evans with Vrabel at TE, but I could be wrong. In my league one owner had very few reasonable options and elected to start Vrabel as his tight end. This doesnt really need to be applied to this specific case. Two way players are not all that common, but I wanted to see if anyone either had to deal with it before or had a strong opinion on the subject.

Thanks.

 

[Utter Chaos]

Unless you're in a league with IDP then sacks, interceptions, etc are counted for your Team Defense.

I guess if you're using IDP and have Vrabel as a Linebacker then he should get credit for any offensive stats unless you're league rules say otherwise.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

How does your league handle LT throwing TDs? Same concept.

 

[Itchy Amos]

That is how I see it as well. When LT throws a TD pass, his owner has always received the points for the passing TD.