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I have that next to read
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
You folks recommending One Second After... dies it actually get interesting? I'm halfway through and the thing that sticks out to me most is that the author (and his editor) don't know the difference between 'have' and 'of'. As in, there's at least a dozen (so far) "should of"s and "I'd of"s. how the hell does that get published?
The political digs are kinda funny though they may not have stood out as much without the Gingrich forward. Was hoping for more from it.
The political digs are kinda funny though they may not have stood out as much without the Gingrich forward. Was hoping for more from it.
Sand
Footballguy
Great set of books. The author knows how to set a hook and keep you moving through the book to find out what happened. Highly recommended.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Kill Everyone (Poker book)
oso diablo
Footballguy
Defending Jacob - William Landay
I really enjoyed this. One of the best "legal thrillers" i've read in a long while.
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I really enjoyed this. One of the best "legal thrillers" i've read in a long while.
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Does anybody have a recommendation for a good audio book that I can DL from iTunes? My wife and I have a trip this weekend, and we enjoyed listening to The Help on our last trip(s).
facook
Footballguy
Somewhere in this thread I ranted about the COMPLETE lack of editing of that trainwreck of a book. Pretty sure I read somewhere that he self-published...thinking he self-edited as well.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Green mile was very good on audio.I also liked the Dark Tower Series on audio but you had better be on one long ### trip to hear all of that.I just listened to The Passage as well. It was 36 hrs
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Took me a while to get through this but it was worth it. I did like this but it does not paint a pretty picture of our "system" legal or penal. I got this out of the library and I almost want to buy a copy. Not that the book was that good but I want to help this guy financially.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Reading the first one and enjoying it so far. $1.99 for all 5 of these books is a steal.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Good stuff here, although there was a lull in the suspense that I thought lasted too long. 7/10Next up: Stephen King's 11/22/63
oso diablo
Footballguy
Most interesting book i've read lately: The Righteous Mind, by Jonathan Haidt
Subtitled: Why Good People Are Divided By Religion & Politics
Delves into moral psychology, positing (quite convincingly, imo) that morality is not reasoned, but mostly intuitive. That there are 6 main channels of morality (likening them to the taste receptors on a tongue), but that not everyone is tapping into all 6 of the channels. Modern Western progressives, in particular, have slimmed down to chiefly just 2 of the channels. (The author himself is a political liberal.)
Subtitled: Why Good People Are Divided By Religion & Politics
Delves into moral psychology, positing (quite convincingly, imo) that morality is not reasoned, but mostly intuitive. That there are 6 main channels of morality (likening them to the taste receptors on a tongue), but that not everyone is tapping into all 6 of the channels. Modern Western progressives, in particular, have slimmed down to chiefly just 2 of the channels. (The author himself is a political liberal.)
The Flying Elvis
Footballguy
Guys... I think a few people have read The Passage on here so just letting everyone know that the sequel, The Twelve comes out today. I haven't checked it out yet but I enjoyed the first book so I'll definitely be reading this soon.
johnadams
Footballguy
Working on Flashback by Dan Simmons right now. Parts of it are pretty engrossing, other parts kinda polemic. Fortunately, he doesn't dwell too much on the politics and keeps it well paced.
Next up The Magician King by Lev Grossman. Put away The Magicians on vacation last week and can't wait to get into this one.
Next up The Magician King by Lev Grossman. Put away The Magicians on vacation last week and can't wait to get into this one.
Hawk Fan
Footballguy
Very entertaining.
Briman
Footballguy
I'm looking for some suggestions for horror books. I've basically read every Stephen King book and most all of the Dean Koontz books. I've read the Joe Hill books, a few John Saul books, Mcammon, Straub. I'm just finishing Greeley's Cove by John Gideon I had read some good reviews on this book but I think it's only mediocre.
Anyone have any book or author recommendations for the horror genre?
Anyone have any book or author recommendations for the horror genre?
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
John Ajvide Lindqvist is really good and creepy. Start with "Let The Right One In".
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I can't wait to read it, but I found it interesting that the book is 1/2 the size of book one and he has had a while to crank this one out.Supposedly Fox already bought the rights to this series--so I am sure we will hear about the movie soon enough.Just got my copy of The Twelve by Justin Cronin.Not as big as the Passage but it is over 500 pages.
Briman
Footballguy
Is that Let Me In? If yes, then I've already read it. I like the book but didn't make it through the whole movie.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Yep. He's written 3 or 4 more also that I enjoyed.Another to check out is David Moody's "Hater" trilogy. It's not for the faint of heart.
Briman
Footballguy
Thanks! I will be getting Hater from the library this weekend
Beckster
Footballguy
Finished The Twelve this afternoon. I thought it was very good. Maybe a notch below the The Passage, but still definitely worth a read.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
The Flying Elvis
Footballguy
Started The Twelve today... Seems like it is going to be good, not sure how much I am going to get into the flashback chapters but I expect to it to be pretty good regardless.Question... I think the next book I read might be House of Leaves and I was wondering if anyone else has read it here and has any opinions on it. From what I have read it is a fairly divisive and a little weird to read.Also, does anyone here use Goodreads?You plow through these books!!!!
krista4
Footballguy
House of Leaves is a favorite of mine. Definitely weird to read, but I recommend it highly and hope you'll report back on what you think!Started The Twelve today... Seems like it is going to be good, not sure how much I am going to get into the flashback chapters but I expect to it to be pretty good regardless.Question... I think the next book I read might be House of Leaves and I was wondering if anyone else has read it here and has any opinions on it. From what I have read it is a fairly divisive and a little weird to read.Also, does anyone here use Goodreads?
steelerfan1
Footballguy
Todd Andrews
Footballguy
House of Leaves is very strange but incredibly creative. Not an easy read on any level but if you are looking for something different and completely outside the box, this book is definitely that. I enjoyed it but I am a complete freak.House of Leaves is a favorite of mine. Definitely weird to read, but I recommend it highly and hope you'll report back on what you think!Started The Twelve today... Seems like it is going to be good, not sure how much I am going to get into the flashback chapters but I expect to it to be pretty good regardless.Question... I think the next book I read might be House of Leaves and I was wondering if anyone else has read it here and has any opinions on it. From what I have read it is a fairly divisive and a little weird to read.Also, does anyone here use Goodreads?
sports_fan
Footballguy
Starting on Crime and Punishment. Its been a few years since I've read any Dostoevsky. I'm about 50 pages in and already hooked. C&P seems more accessible than some of his other work, at least so far.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Big :thumbsup: for The Passage. Read the first chapter last night, put it down to go to bed, but I couldn't sleep because I wanted to read more! Rarely does a book do that to me.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Finished The Twelve the other day (I was couch bound and sick so I had lots of time). Rarely has a sequel made me want to put it down after 1 page, but this one really did. Fortunately with a terrible start like that, there's nowhere to go but up. It was a good book overall but I thought it was several steps below Passage. I won't get into details until more have read it, but it seemed lazy at times and really meandered away from what made Passage good.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too many coincidences (Lila?!, Tifty and Nina etc) and "spiritually" connected people, plus dead folks not being dead (Carter and Amy? Wolgast?).
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badmojo1006
Footballguy
The Cobra Event by Richard Preston (Author of Hot Spot), slow and 
at first (he needs to back off the descriptive prose), but is picking up speed as it gets into the scifi thriller parts
at first (he needs to back off the descriptive prose), but is picking up speed as it gets into the scifi thriller parts
badmojo1006
Footballguy
User name over there is Andy MoxStarted The Twelve today... Seems like it is going to be good, not sure how much I am going to get into the flashback chapters but I expect to it to be pretty good regardless.Question... I think the next book I read might be House of Leaves and I was wondering if anyone else has read it here and has any opinions on it. From what I have read it is a fairly divisive and a little weird to read.
Also, does anyone here use Goodreads?
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Fixed.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
So I ended up getting The Great Gatsby as my audio book this weekend. I had never read it in HS. Pretty interesting with the Rothstein character etc. I wish there was more background on everybody, but I guess that wasn't the theme of the book. What would you say the theme was, don't dwell on the past when trying to influence the future?
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I didn't love The Passage, but I agree that The Twelve was considerably worse (although I didn't mind the early Year Zero stuff in The Twelve as much as the Year 97 stuff).
I understand that Cronin may feel that there's only so much to be wrought out of the idea of virals as relentless killing forces of nature. But that's a hell of a lot scarier than viral collaborators. Maybe the "red eyes" and Guilder in particular could have been compelling villians, but they weren't. They were just cartoonish sketches of every worst aspect of humanity. We spend a lot of time in Guilder's head, which makes his cardboard thin motivations all the more annoying. Similarly, there are ways to sketch a character like Lila so that she can be terrifying, crazy, and sympathetic at the same time. Something like the way Joss Whedon created Drusilla. Instead, Lila is just annoying. She's not crazy in an interesting way. Her moments of lucidity and heroism aren't earned. And we're never in her head when she actually is aiding Guilder's plan, so we don't really understand her capacity to for evil.From a structure standpoint, I assume that Bernard/April's story will be significant to the conclusion, which makes it odd that they were included in the Year Zero story in this book. Similarly, after The Passage drops tons of references to the Roswell massacre, it's deeply strange that Cronin would then essentially render that an "off camera" episode and instead chronicle the Massacre In the Field. I understand that he was trying to broaden the backstory of the Expeditionary members, but I didn't feel that backstory had much impact or significance.
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John Bender
Footballguy
I'm on the second section of Cloud Atlas.
Just finished the first section of Adam Ewing's journal entries.
This gets better, I hope?
Just finished the first section of Adam Ewing's journal entries.
This gets better, I hope?
oso diablo
Footballguy
with every page (ok, that's a bit of hyperbole)'John Bender said:
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
I didn't love The Passage, but I agree that The Twelve was considerably worse (although I didn't mind the early Year Zero stuff in The Twelve as much as the Year 97 stuff).'Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
I understand that Cronin may feel that there's only so much to be wrought out of the idea of virals as relentless killing forces of nature. But that's a hell of a lot scarier than viral collaborators. Maybe the "red eyes" and Guilder in particular could have been compelling villians, but they weren't. They were just cartoonish sketches of every worst aspect of humanity. We spend a lot of time in Guilder's head, which makes his cardboard thin motivations all the more annoying. Similarly, there are ways to sketch a character like Lila so that she can be terrifying, crazy, and sympathetic at the same time. Something like the way Joss Whedon created Drusilla. Instead, Lila is just annoying. She's not crazy in an interesting way. Her moments of lucidity and heroism aren't earned. And we're never in her head when she actually is aiding Guilder's plan, so we don't really understand her capacity to for evil.From a structure standpoint, I assume that Bernard/April's story will be significant to the conclusion, which makes it odd that they were included in the Year Zero story in this book. Similarly, after The Passage drops tons of references to the Roswell massacre, it's deeply strange that Cronin would then essentially render that an "off camera" episode and instead chronicle the Massacre In the Field. I understand that he was trying to broaden the backstory of the Expeditionary members, but I didn't feel that backstory had much impact or significance.
Well that seals the deal for me. I won't continue with the series.
facook
Footballguy
Reread The Passage prepping for The Twelve. Kinda bummed to see the less-than-stellar reviews for that here.
Now on Gone Girl, which I've heard very good things about. It's very entertaining writing, though I must say1/4 of the way through some of the marital conflict hits a little too close too home.
Now on Gone Girl, which I've heard very good things about. It's very entertaining writing, though I must say1/4 of the way through some of the marital conflict hits a little too close too home.
Beckster
Footballguy
I enjoyed Gone Girl. I decided to try out her other two novels after reading it, and both were very good, very easy reads. Just finished Sharp Objects today. The author is pretty twisted.Now on Gone Girl, which I've heard very good things about. It's very entertaining writing, though I must say1/4 of the way through some of the marital conflict hits a little too close too home.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
A third of the way through The Passage. Thoughts so far in spoilers below.
One of the complaints that I read about the book was the abrupt jumping forward that takes place. Well, I can say that I am not a fan of it. The author spent so much of my time getting me to care about the characters and now, it's all for naught. Wolgast, Doyle, Richards, Grey, Lacey, Amy (although I don't think I've seen the last of her)...all of them. In fact, I was kind of enjoying the Wolgast/Amy exile. I sympathized with Wolgast's unfortunate tragedy with his daughter and how he was being something of a father figure to Amy. Then boom, he dies after a nuclear explosion, Amy disappears, and then I'm 92 years into the future. 
I hope the last two-thirds of the book rehooks me somehow.
I hope the last two-thirds of the book rehooks me somehow.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I didn't love The Passage, but I agree that The Twelve was considerably worse (although I didn't mind the early Year Zero stuff in The Twelve as much as the Year 97 stuff).
I understand that Cronin may feel that there's only so much to be wrought out of the idea of virals as relentless killing forces of nature. But that's a hell of a lot scarier than viral collaborators. Maybe the "red eyes" and Guilder in particular could have been compelling villians, but they weren't. They were just cartoonish sketches of every worst aspect of humanity. We spend a lot of time in Guilder's head, which makes his cardboard thin motivations all the more annoying. Similarly, there are ways to sketch a character like Lila so that she can be terrifying, crazy, and sympathetic at the same time. Something like the way Joss Whedon created Drusilla. Instead, Lila is just annoying. She's not crazy in an interesting way. Her moments of lucidity and heroism aren't earned. And we're never in her head when she actually is aiding Guilder's plan, so we don't really understand her capacity to for evil.From a structure standpoint, I assume that Bernard/April's story will be significant to the conclusion, which makes it odd that they were included in the Year Zero story in this book. Similarly, after The Passage drops tons of references to the Roswell massacre, it's deeply strange that Cronin would then essentially render that an "off camera" episode and instead chronicle the Massacre In the Field. I understand that he was trying to broaden the backstory of the Expeditionary members, but I didn't feel that backstory had much impact or significance.
I liked that he didn't go into the Roswell Massacre. We get the point that it was a collection from the other collections he talks about. The Massacre in the Field though, was the major source of a lot of the stupid coincidences. I know that most people are dead or viral, but Peter and Lish meeting/saving/fighting with the same interconnected people is over the top and/or points to some silly mystical overlord/spiritual force at play. Not enough that the serum turns them into demons, but it also gives them mental powers to communicate to anyone plus some seemingly pre-ordained goal/fate for the Twelve. I also don't like that he does some interesting things like the system of feeding and a group hive, but then kills them all off. Other than Amy and Wolgast Carter and whoever else he wants to conveniently save from the blast that was supposed to kill everyone. Also, the part about looking them in the eyes was great... and then rendered useless for the rest of the book. Maybe going after Zero it will be relevant, but he went away from some ideas really quickly. Dunno why Peter is getting mystical, seems just too convenient. The whole Lila thing is absurd and having Sara be her attendant with her own daughter being the current Alison or whatever is over the top, as much as Nina being Tifta's daughter and just so happening to be Sergio's leader. Just sloppy. lazy writing. The only things I really liked in this book were the year zero parts (taking out the massive coincidences of Lila and the eunuch). I really hate it when authors have great ideas and then squander them off and use the cheap methods of resolving plots or moving to the next bit. Too much Steven King for my liking. I'll read the next one just to finish but I certainly won't be re-reading Twelve just to get up to speed.Also, seems that there should be a Zero and a #### ton of minions down in South America where Fanning got bit in the first place. Can the telepathy reach that far? Will there be any crossover? Stands to reason the virals would've chased the party out of the jungle and eventually found a road to civilization given that the American 12 went back to their home areas, the people the South American virals took up had homes too. Someone eventually is going to get close enough to a civilization to send out a big "burger time buffet" telepathic message to come out of the junge and binge.
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
Without trying to give anything away, it's not that bad of a deal. 99% of the population is dead or viral. Pretty much anyone you got to know in the "past" is going to be dead and the world was re-made so it mirrors the loss of literary characters. It's the "future" people that the story is really about. The ones who have to either re-take the world or die in it. It's worth finishing, just don't get your hoped up too high for the sequel.A third of the way through The Passage. Thoughts so far in spoilers below.
One of the complaints that I read about the book was the abrupt jumping forward that takes place. Well, I can say that I am not a fan of it. The author spent so much of my time getting me to care about the characters and now, it's all for naught. Wolgast, Doyle, Richards, Grey, Lacey, Amy (although I don't think I've seen the last of her)...all of them. In fact, I was kind of enjoying the Wolgast/Amy exile. I sympathized with Wolgast's unfortunate tragedy with his daughter and how he was being something of a father figure to Amy. Then boom, he dies after a nuclear explosion, Amy disappears, and then I'm 92 years into the future.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Without trying to give anything away, it's not that bad of a deal. 99% of the population is dead or viral. Pretty much anyone you got to know in the "past" is going to be dead and the world was re-made so it mirrors the loss of literary characters. It's the "future" people that the story is really about. The ones who have to either re-take the world or die in it. It's worth finishing, just don't get your hoped up too high for the sequel.Gotcha. I just wish he didn't spend so much time building those past characters so much.And it's a shame about the sequel.A third of the way through The Passage. Thoughts so far in spoilers below.
One of the complaints that I read about the book was the abrupt jumping forward that takes place. Well, I can say that I am not a fan of it. The author spent so much of my time getting me to care about the characters and now, it's all for naught. Wolgast, Doyle, Richards, Grey, Lacey, Amy (although I don't think I've seen the last of her)...all of them. In fact, I was kind of enjoying the Wolgast/Amy exile. I sympathized with Wolgast's unfortunate tragedy with his daughter and how he was being something of a father figure to Amy. Then boom, he dies after a nuclear explosion, Amy disappears, and then I'm 92 years into the future.
