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I started reading "On Writing" by Stephen King, with "Elements of Style" up next.

Also, my list of books to get next are:

Writing Great Fiction: Plot and Structure

Writing down the bones

Writing Tools

Bird by Bird

On Writing well

Any others that come to mind?
Bolded what I feel are probably the two most useless "essential" writing books of all time. New agey and feel-good, without any real meat for the sincerely aspiring writer. Great if you need a little rah rah push, but if you need inspiration, writing ain't for you anyway. Not that they don't have their fans and adherents, but as a publishing guy, I wouldn't recommend either to anyone I felt had promise.

The King's good, and S&W is pretty much mandatory to at least understand (so you can actively decide when to ignore its advice).

If you aspire to write great short fiction, look at Writing in General and the Short Story in Particular by Rust Hills. Probably still the only worthwhile manual ever written on the literary short.

If you aspire to literary novel-length stuff, The Art of Fiction, and On Becoming a Novelist, by John Gardner. There'll be some carryover from the King book, but Gardner goes a lot more in-depth, provides the deepest portrait you'll find of the young artist growing into an award-winning novelist, and gives writing exercises that are standard prompts in many of the Writers' Workshop model MFA schools around the country.

If you just want to write some fun little books and get published, ignore all of the above, and just read heavily in-genre. Then maybe (maybe, mind you) get yourself a copy of The Marshall Plan if you're having trouble getting started or otherwise find yourself lacking direction, plotwise. It's pure formula, but it's a tried-and-true one that has pretty much limitless applications. If strict formula galls you, J.K. Rowling did okay for herself just kind of following Aristotle's Poetics. :shrug:

Good luck with it.
I have heard that 'Bird by Bird' was more new-agey than not, but several writing websites have it on their 'must read' list. This kind of 'seals the deal', and I will skip it.

Thanks for the advice! I will put your suggestions into the rotation.
You can always just get over to the library or even Amazon for a little "look inside" action. Doesn't cost much to take a peek and see if it fits your style. There are people who swear by this stuff, even if grizzled old slushpile vets like me don't exactly swoon.

Just skip the intro. Nonfiction bestseller types always put their hard sell into the intro. Read a couple pages of chapter two or three -- that's where you'll see if you connect. Thinking about it, I recall Bird by Bird being more "cutesy anecdotal" than new agey. Writing Down the Bones veered the other way. Probably twenty years since I read either, though. :shrug:

ETA: Although, if you want to write Lovecraftian stuff, just absorb everything humanly possible on building atmosphere, and on creating and sustaining tension and suspense, and maybe memorize a thesaurus from 1910 for good measure.

 
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My son wanted to start reading Harry Potter but just before I bought it I found out it was free with Amazon Prime Lending. :thumbup:

 
I started reading "On Writing" by Stephen King, with "Elements of Style" up next.

Also, my list of books to get next are:

Writing Great Fiction: Plot and Structure

Writing down the bones

Writing Tools

Bird by Bird

On Writing well

Any others that come to mind?
I'll add a recommendation for Garner's Modern American Usage. I consult it regularly. (Click "Surprise Me!" on Amazon's "Look Inside!" and read a few random entries to get a taste.)

 
Has anyone read The Fifteen Lives of Harry August? Recommend?
Definitely. The book was well written and the story was very interesting.
Finished it and really liked it. Now just have to figure out the next book I want to read. Read a lot of fantasy/sci fi but also mix up a decent amount of contemporary fiction in. Last 5 books have been Harry August, Red Rising, Bone Clocks, Tower Lord and The Code book so if anyone has anything they think I might jump into, welcome all suggestions.

 
I started reading "On Writing" by Stephen King, with "Elements of Style" up next.

Also, my list of books to get next are:

Writing Great Fiction: Plot and Structure

Writing down the bones

Writing Tools

Bird by Bird

On Writing well

Any others that come to mind?
I'll add a recommendation for Garner's Modern American Usage. I consult it regularly. (Click "Surprise Me!" on Amazon's "Look Inside!" and read a few random entries to get a taste.)
Thanks MT!

 
Reading "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell, interesting enough but so far seems to be just saying the same thing over and over rather than tell you why people make snap judgements or why they are often as correct as well researched judgements, or even how to go about improving your own snap judgements (thin-slicing, he calls it). Hoping he gets more into that towards the end of the book, only about half-way through it.

Also recently picked up Zero to One, by Peter Thiel, about startups and innovation, and This Will Make You Smarter, a collection of answers to the question "What scientific concept would improve everybody's cognitive toolkit?" from a large number of "influential thinkers".

Guess I'm on a non-fiction kick right now.

 
some recent stuff I liked and would recommend:

The Martian by Andy Weir - excellent story about an astronaut marooned on Mars who has to survive by himself with extremely limited supplies. This one was a fast read and had a lot of humor mixed with the science.

Paddle Your Own Canoe by Nick Offerman - basically an autobiography slash self-help advice book from Offerman (Ron Swanson on "Parks and Rec"). Hilarious and a fun read - it does bog down just a little bit at times when NIck gets a little too self-righteous with his monologues, but it's still pretty damn good.

Retribution Falls and The Black Lung Captain by Chris Wooding - these are sort of steampunk/crime/fantasy/action novels about the crew of the Ketty Jay, an airship in a world full of sky pirates, feudal navies, and weird creatures where the majority of traveling is done using aerium (sort of like helium on steroids) gas-powered flying machines. These books were a really pleasant surprise and should be a lot more well-known in my opinion - lots of swashbuckling adventure, wisecracks and excellent characters, and the writing is very good. It reminds me a little bit of something Douglas Adams might have written had he decided to try his hand at a steampunk-style modern fantasy.

I'm also waiting on the fourth volume of Sam Sisavath's Gates of Babylon series, which is supposed to come out the end of the month. Anybody who enjoys apocalyptic fiction, zombies or horror ought to be jumping on these books - they follow a couple of ex-Army Rangers after a worldwide event turns the majority of the population into hive-minded, fast undead ghouls. Sisavath is another guy that ought to be getting a lot more recognition (and for a similar, also great series, check out DJ Molles' The Remaining books - they're sort of like The Walking Dead, if the main character were a specially-trained soldier attempting to rebuild humanity following a zombie apocalypse).

 
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some recent stuff I liked and would recommend:

The Martian by Andy Weir - excellent story about an astronaut marooned on Mars who has to survive by himself with extremely limited supplies. This one was a fast read and had a lot of humor mixed with the science.

Paddle Your Own Canoe by Nick Offerman - basically an autobiography slash self-help advice book from Offerman (Ron Swanson on "Parks and Rec"). Hilarious and a fun read - it does bog down just a little bit at times when NIck gets a little too self-righteous with his monologues, but it's still pretty damn good.

Retribution Falls and The Black Lung Captain by Chris Wooding - these are sort of steampunk/crime/fantasy/action novels about the crew of the Ketty Jay, an airship in a world full of sky pirates, feudal navies, and weird creatures where the majority of traveling is done using aerium (sort of like helium on steroids) gas-powered flying machines. These books were a really pleasant surprise and should be a lot more well-known in my opinion - lots of swashbuckling adventure, wisecracks and excellent characters, and the writing is very good. It reminds me a little bit of something Douglas Adams might have written had he decided to try his hand at a steampunk-style modern fantasy.

I'm also waiting on the fourth volume of Sam Sisavath's Gates of Babylon series, which is supposed to come out the end of the month. Anybody who enjoys apocalyptic fiction, zombies or horror ought to be jumping on these books - they follow a couple of ex-Army Rangers after a worldwide event turns the majority of the population into hive-minded, fast undead ghouls. Sisavath is another guy that ought to be getting a lot more recognition (and for a similar, also great series, check out DJ Molles' The Remaining books - they're sort of like The Walking Dead, if the main character were a specially-trained soldier attempting to rebuild humanity following a zombie apocalypse).
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Reading "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell, interesting enough but so far seems to be just saying the same thing over and over rather than tell you why people make snap judgements or why they are often as correct as well researched judgements, or even how to go about improving your own snap judgements (thin-slicing, he calls it). Hoping he gets more into that towards the end of the book, only about half-way through it.

Also recently picked up Zero to One, by Peter Thiel, about startups and innovation, and This Will Make You Smarter, a collection of answers to the question "What scientific concept would improve everybody's cognitive toolkit?" from a large number of "influential thinkers".

Guess I'm on a non-fiction kick right now.
Blink was solid.

Just started This Will Make You Smarter; there is hope! but no guarantee.

Also on my reading list - Supersurvivors, How, and the Strain.

 
On the docket...

Rocks By Joe Perry

The Short & Tragic Life of Robert Peace by Jeff Hobbs

Thank You For You Service by Robert Finkel

 
I'm also waiting on the fourth volume of Sam Sisavath's Gates of Babylon series, which is supposed to come out the end of the month. Anybody who enjoys apocalyptic fiction, zombies or horror ought to be jumping on these books - they follow a couple of ex-Army Rangers after a worldwide event turns the majority of the population into hive-minded, fast undead ghouls. Sisavath is another guy that ought to be getting a lot more recognition (and for a similar, also great series, check out DJ Molles' The Remaining books - they're sort of like The Walking Dead, if the main character were a specially-trained soldier attempting to rebuild humanity following a zombie apocalypse).
Funny, I just found out about this series today and came here to see if anyone had read it. Also going to check out The Remaining.

 
I'm also waiting on the fourth volume of Sam Sisavath's Gates of Babylon series, which is supposed to come out the end of the month. Anybody who enjoys apocalyptic fiction, zombies or horror ought to be jumping on these books - they follow a couple of ex-Army Rangers after a worldwide event turns the majority of the population into hive-minded, fast undead ghouls. Sisavath is another guy that ought to be getting a lot more recognition (and for a similar, also great series, check out DJ Molles' The Remaining books - they're sort of like The Walking Dead, if the main character were a specially-trained soldier attempting to rebuild humanity following a zombie apocalypse).
Funny, I just found out about this series today and came here to see if anyone had read it. Also going to check out The Remaining.
awesome - yeah, check it out, it's good stuff. I just realized though that I'm an idiot and wrote the wrong name for the series. Its actually called the Purge Of Babylon - I got it mixed up because the second book is called Gates Of Byzantium, so heads up to you and facook and anybody else that wants to give it a shot.

The Remaining series is also really good - it's got a little grittier and downbeat feel to it vs. Sisavath's stuff, which has a little bit of dark humor mixed into the apocalypse. But both of them are full of kickass action and great characters.

 
I'm also waiting on the fourth volume of Sam Sisavath's Gates of Babylon series, which is supposed to come out the end of the month. Anybody who enjoys apocalyptic fiction, zombies or horror ought to be jumping on these books - they follow a couple of ex-Army Rangers after a worldwide event turns the majority of the population into hive-minded, fast undead ghouls. Sisavath is another guy that ought to be getting a lot more recognition (and for a similar, also great series, check out DJ Molles' The Remaining books - they're sort of like The Walking Dead, if the main character were a specially-trained soldier attempting to rebuild humanity following a zombie apocalypse).
Funny, I just found out about this series today and came here to see if anyone had read it. Also going to check out The Remaining.
awesome - yeah, check it out, it's good stuff. I just realized though that I'm an idiot and wrote the wrong name for the series. Its actually called the Purge Of Babylon - I got it mixed up because the second book is called Gates Of Byzantium, so heads up to you and facook and anybody else that wants to give it a shot.

The Remaining series is also really good - it's got a little grittier and downbeat feel to it vs. Sisavath's stuff, which has a little bit of dark humor mixed into the apocalypse. But both of them are full of kickass action and great characters.
Wow. The Purge books are dirt cheap in Kindle form - $2.99 for most of them (and the 1st book is 500 pages). Saved to wish list. How many are supposed to be in the series?

Also saved Retribution Falls.

I'm on The Last Policeman now - maybe 1/3 through and like it so far.

 
I'm also waiting on the fourth volume of Sam Sisavath's Gates of Babylon series, which is supposed to come out the end of the month. Anybody who enjoys apocalyptic fiction, zombies or horror ought to be jumping on these books - they follow a couple of ex-Army Rangers after a worldwide event turns the majority of the population into hive-minded, fast undead ghouls. Sisavath is another guy that ought to be getting a lot more recognition (and for a similar, also great series, check out DJ Molles' The Remaining books - they're sort of like The Walking Dead, if the main character were a specially-trained soldier attempting to rebuild humanity following a zombie apocalypse).
Funny, I just found out about this series today and came here to see if anyone had read it. Also going to check out The Remaining.
awesome - yeah, check it out, it's good stuff. I just realized though that I'm an idiot and wrote the wrong name for the series. Its actually called the Purge Of Babylon - I got it mixed up because the second book is called Gates Of Byzantium, so heads up to you and facook and anybody else that wants to give it a shot.

The Remaining series is also really good - it's got a little grittier and downbeat feel to it vs. Sisavath's stuff, which has a little bit of dark humor mixed into the apocalypse. But both of them are full of kickass action and great characters.
Wow. The Purge books are dirt cheap in Kindle form - $2.99 for most of them (and the 1st book is 500 pages). Saved to wish list. How many are supposed to be in the series?

Also saved Retribution Falls.

I'm on The Last Policeman now - maybe 1/3 through and like it so far.
I've read the three main books in the series so far - Purge of Babylon, Gates of Byzantium, and Stones of Angkor - and there's a fourth one coming out in a couple weeks. He's also got a couple of shorter spinoff novels which I haven't read - those are set in the same world but following different characters, and they have the word Lemuria in the titles.

I need to check out Last Policeman from the reviews in this thread.

 
Im almost finished with the third "The Last Policeman" two days left.

Its a really good trilogy.
Loved the first - the ending didn't really seem to allow for a second, or third. [SIZE=13.63636302948px]I really need to read the next two, but they're expensive. [/SIZE]

 
The Warded Man- Peter Brett. first book of the Demon Cycle. fantasy. There's nothing exceptional about the writing or the story but I couldn't put it down. easy read. going to start the next one asap.

 
American Sniper.

Not to talk ill of the dead but that guy is (was) a cocky dude. Like Marcus Luttrel better.
I am sure you have to have a heightened sense of confidence for that line of work. Interesting story, but I wasn't a huge fan of the book.

 
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Got my King on, and caught up with a few of his: Lisey's Story, The Green Mile and The Dead Zone. The more I read of his, the more I realize I just seem to like his old stuff. Loved Dead Zone, Green Mile was pretty good, and thought Lisey was ok - it just didn't hold my attention much. I think the only one of his that has been released since the 80s that I have really liked has been 11/22/63.

I picked up the first 2 books in the Dark Tower series at a used place and will probably start those after I get through a couple others. How well does this series hold up? Also thinking about revisiting a couple I haven't read since Middle School or so and revisiting them - 'Salem's Lot, It, Pet Sematary.

Also read some non-King and just got done with The Leftovers by Tom Perrotta. Really liked a couple of the characters and ideas of the book, but something about the ending didn't sit with me. However, I am still thinking about it a couple days later, so I guess that is a good thing. Not my favorite of his, but still was worth the read. The tone of the trailers to the show seem to point to HBO going darker with the material, but I haven't gotten around to watching any episodes. Could have completely done without the character of the Mayor's son.

After seeing the trailer for the movie coming out soon, tonight I started on Before I Go To Sleep. Seems like a slight Memento rip-off, but hopefully there is something different to it.

 
I picked up the first 2 books in the Dark Tower series at a used place and will probably start those after I get through a couple others. How well does this series hold up?
Have you read it before?

You're gonna get wildly varying opinions on this series.

A lot of people feel he went off the rails after he got run over by that van (there's some meta #### that really turned some folks off). I don't, but the tone & style changed a ton in the last 3 books. A straight-through read can be a little jarring because he wrote these books over the course of decades. A lot of people also don't like the end (I thought it was perfect) and how some character arcs were resolved (I didn't have a problem with most of these either, though one was pretty silly).

The original series had 7 books. A couple of years ago he issued another Dark Tower book ("Wind Through The Keyhole") that takes place between volumes 4 & 5. I haven't done a re-read since that one came out, with it inserted chronologically, so I'm not sure how well it fits. It's not essential to the main story, but does include a flashback that fills in some more of one character's background and has a pretty cool fairy tale buried inside of that.

 
I picked up the first 2 books in the Dark Tower series at a used place and will probably start those after I get through a couple others. How well does this series hold up?
Have you read it before?

You're gonna get wildly varying opinions on this series.

A lot of people feel he went off the rails after he got run over by that van (there's some meta #### that really turned some folks off). I don't, but the tone & style changed a ton in the last 3 books. A straight-through read can be a little jarring because he wrote these books over the course of decades. A lot of people also don't like the end (I thought it was perfect) and how some character arcs were resolved (I didn't have a problem with most of these either, though one was pretty silly).

The original series had 7 books. A couple of years ago he issued another Dark Tower book ("Wind Through The Keyhole") that takes place between volumes 4 & 5. I haven't done a re-read since that one came out, with it inserted chronologically, so I'm not sure how well it fits. It's not essential to the main story, but does include a flashback that fills in some more of one character's background and has a pretty cool fairy tale buried inside of that.
I might have read book 1 long ago, but honestly remember nothing about it.

 
Wind through the keyhole was excellent IMO
I bought this when it came out but, for some reason, haven't felt the urge to actually read it. Not sure if its since the whole epic is wrapped up and there's nothing driving me to find out what happens. Maybe I've just lost interest in the characters with time. I did really enjoy the Dark Tower books though, maybe one day I'll do a full reread with WttK in the right chronological spot.

 
After seeing the trailer for the movie coming out soon, tonight I started on Before I Go To Sleep. Seems like a slight Memento rip-off, but hopefully there is something different to it.
Read that one a few months ago. Really enjoyed it.

Also really enjoyed the Last Policeman Series. Highly recommended. A trilogy that was actually good all the way through.

Have been going back through and reading some Stephen Gould lately... he is the guy who wrote Jumper, which was an excellent book despite being a horrible movie. The sequel to Jumper (Reflex) was also outstanding. The 3rd book in the series (Impulse) was alright.

Also read Wildside which isn't in the Jumper series. First half was excellent, 2nd half was just OK.

Now reading The Islands at the End of the World.

 
I picked up the first 2 books in the Dark Tower series at a used place and will probably start those after I get through a couple others. How well does this series hold up?
I really enjoyed it, I waited until he was finishing the last few books to start so I pretty much read it straight through. The Dark Tower is described as the linchpin of the universe and so it is for the King universe of books as well. Since you're read other books of his, you'll enjoy some references / easter eggs and running into other King characters, villains, plot points, etc.

This is a website that collects and lists connections between the Dark Tower and other works, there are mentions of characters and places, but I didn't see any real spoilers? Worth quickly scrolling through if you want to see to scope of connections:

http://stephenking.com/darktower/connections/


 
Read Rothfuss's Slow Regard of Silent Things, his new little Auri novella. Despite it's price tag for a 150 page book, I enjoyed it.

It has little to no coherent plot, Kvothe is mentioned only in terms of "he", and there is almost no overlap with the Kingkiller story. Having said that I am a fan of Rothfuss's prose and the character of Auri so I enjoyed it. In the foreward, he even warns readers and admits that not everyone may like the story because it is not what they want or expect.

Even though it doesn't really overlap with the KKC and you don't have to read it, I think I did recognize a few instances of potential foreshadowing and gained some insight into why Auri is broken.

 
If you like Kundera, The Elegance of the Hedgehog was similar in style (very philosophical, lots of references to literature, art,etc). Very good book if that is your thing.

 
Read Rothfuss's Slow Regard of Silent Things, his new little Auri novella. Despite it's price tag for a 150 page book, I enjoyed it.
I'm spoiled, I'm sure, but $10 for a kindle version of a 150 page book is outrageous.

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I picked up and am reading Fluency, which seems to be a pretty popular book lately. It is still on sale - $1 for the next day. So far so good. Very interesting idea (a derelict alien ship is located in the asteroid belt and has been sitting there, unmoving, for 60 years). Writing is excellent.

 
Got my King on, and caught up with a few of his: Lisey's Story, The Green Mile and The Dead Zone. The more I read of his, the more I realize I just seem to like his old stuff. Loved Dead Zone, Green Mile was pretty good, and thought Lisey was ok - it just didn't hold my attention much. I think the only one of his that has been released since the 80s that I have really liked has been 11/22/63.

I picked up the first 2 books in the Dark Tower series at a used place and will probably start those after I get through a couple others. How well does this series hold up? Also thinking about revisiting a couple I haven't read since Middle School or so and revisiting them - 'Salem's Lot, It, Pet Sematary.
First book is pretty meh, but the rest of the series is like "old" King, IMO.

 
Read Rothfuss's Slow Regard of Silent Things, his new little Auri novella. Despite it's price tag for a 150 page book, I enjoyed it.
I'm spoiled, I'm sure, but $10 for a kindle version of a 150 page book is outrageous.

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I picked up and am reading Fluency, which seems to be a pretty popular book lately. It is still on sale - $1 for the next day. So far so good. Very interesting idea (a derelict alien ship is located in the asteroid belt and has been sitting there, unmoving, for 60 years). Writing is excellent.
Yah the pricing is pretty bad but I've read it was set by the publisher rather than his choice. I usually get Kindle version but this book I bought hardcover to justify it for like $11 or something. The hardcover has some real nice cover art and illustrations within the book which at least makes it feel not so overpriced.

 
The Homecoming, #2 of Carsten Stroud's Niceville trilogy. Good and creepy.

Red Rising, alost gave up on it 1/3 of way thru. Glad I stuck it out. I'll look forward to the next one.

Now reading Countdown City, the Last Policeman #2. Just as enjoyable as the first so far.

 
The Homecoming, #2 of Carsten Stroud's Niceville trilogy. Good and creepy.

Red Rising, alost gave up on it 1/3 of way thru. Glad I stuck it out. I'll look forward to the next one.

Now reading Countdown City, the Last Policeman #2. Just as enjoyable as the first so far.
Just finished. The whodunit aspect left me a little "meh" but I really like the author's style and his characters.

Now I'm on to LP #3

 
After seeing the trailer for the movie coming out soon, tonight I started on Before I Go To Sleep. Seems like a slight Memento rip-off, but hopefully there is something different to it.
Read that one a few months ago. Really enjoyed it.
Thought it was a decent quick read. There were a couple main plot points that bugged me, but not enough to deter from the overall enjoyment of it.

 
Been wanting to read something of Dan Simmons, but a few of them seem really daunting. How is Summer of Night? Seems like a medium sized one that looked interesting.

 

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