Update:Second book was ok. A few decent twists, a decent storyline that seems pretty logical considering where the first book left off.Third book...sucks. Period. It's a turd. Started off alright-ish, but the middle part has been like reading quicksand. Which leads me to another issue, which I will discuss below:No, definitely not. But then again, you're not expecting a book written through the eyes of a 16 year old girl to exactly be Shakespeare, either. If it was, then it'd probably suck, actually.I'm about where you are - 2nd book, maybe 1/2 way through. Entertaining reads, if not high literature.Finished up The Hunger Games over the weekend and starting into Catching Fire. Thought it was a pretty entertaining read. I can see where some would say it's written for teenage girls in mind as the story goes through the eyes of the main character, but I was still pretty entertained. Pretty well written and thought it was a FAST read. Couldn't put the book down once the actual Games started.I hear the two books that follow (Catching Fire and Mockingjay) are lackluster in comparison, but hopefully they're at least as half as entertaining as Hunger Games was.
I just recently finished all three books, and I found the third book to be the worst of the three. You pretty much expected the revolution given the setup, even as early as book 1, and Katniss does get fairly irritating with her total lack of trust. The part I really disliked though ...Update:Second book was ok. A few decent twists, a decent storyline that seems pretty logical considering where the first book left off.Third book...sucks. Period. It's a turd. Started off alright-ish, but the middle part has been like reading quicksand. Which leads me to another issue, which I will discuss below:No, definitely not. But then again, you're not expecting a book written through the eyes of a 16 year old girl to exactly be Shakespeare, either. If it was, then it'd probably suck, actually.I'm about where you are - 2nd book, maybe 1/2 way through. Entertaining reads, if not high literature.Finished up The Hunger Games over the weekend and starting into Catching Fire. Thought it was a pretty entertaining read. I can see where some would say it's written for teenage girls in mind as the story goes through the eyes of the main character, but I was still pretty entertained. Pretty well written and thought it was a FAST read. Couldn't put the book down once the actual Games started.I hear the two books that follow (Catching Fire and Mockingjay) are lackluster in comparison, but hopefully they're at least as half as entertaining as Hunger Games was.Katniss is about as likable as a fungo bat. I mean, she is completely devoid of personality outside of compassion for her sister and Gale. She totally treats Peeta like a complete tool in the first book, and is downright ####y to almost anyone that tries to help her. And then we get to the moment where this series jumps the shark: District 13. New landscape that's about as fun to envision as a bear cave. New people I could give a flying #### about. And of course, there's Katniss's typical indignant outlook on things, which we're forced to digest because we're looking through her eyes. The whole "revolution" idea seems intriguing, but because we're chained to Katniss's thoughts, hopes, emotions, and such, we're spared a lot of that.And of course, despite her sour#### towards everything, everyone goes out of their way to put her up on this pedestal. What did she do to deserve this? Manipulate Peeta into a fake romance that got an entire nation to fall in love with her like lemmings? She has come nowhere close to earning sympathy from those that try to help her.The third book then starts to drag with more Katniss melodrama. Ugh. I'm about at the middle point of Mockingjay and I'm ready for this thing to be over so I can move on to a book where we're not forced to look through the eyes of such an unlikable #####.Ok, rant over.
Loved The Beach.How would you rate the trilogy based on what you've read so far? I've been reading with a girl I like and I was thinking this might be our next foray. She likes brutal violence which is why I thought of it, though some reviews comment on how depressing it is. Feeling suicidal yet?We just finished the Millennium Trilogy (Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, etc.) and both liked it a lot, though it could of used some tighter editing.Some other books I'm tossing around as possibilities are:The BeachHis Dark Materials TrilogyAmerican PsychoWater for ElephantsTo Kill a MockingbirdCall of the WildDark Tower seriesLonesome DoveAny comments on these or any books y'all think would be good to read with a chick would be appreciated. Pending Clifford's review I think the Border Trilogy is in the lead.'Clifford said:Reading "the crossing" by Cormac McCarthy. 4 words sum up the border trilogy this far: don't go to Mexico.
If she likes violence, Water for Elephants is not a good choice but I would recommend it. Has she read "In Cold Blood". It's very violently graphic and well written. I just started MOckingbird.Loved The Beach.How would you rate the trilogy based on what you've read so far? I've been reading with a girl I like and I was thinking this might be our next foray. She likes brutal violence which is why I thought of it, though some reviews comment on how depressing it is. Feeling suicidal yet?We just finished the Millennium Trilogy (Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, etc.) and both liked it a lot, though it could of used some tighter editing.Some other books I'm tossing around as possibilities are:The BeachHis Dark Materials TrilogyAmerican PsychoWater for ElephantsTo Kill a MockingbirdCall of the WildDark Tower seriesLonesome DoveAny comments on these or any books y'all think would be good to read with a chick would be appreciated. Pending Clifford's review I think the Border Trilogy is in the lead.'Clifford said:Reading "the crossing" by Cormac McCarthy. 4 words sum up the border trilogy this far: don't go to Mexico.
I think All the Pretty Horses has a broader appeal. The Crossing is much darker and philosophical. If you want to try out McCarthy I'd recommend suttree as his best, but Atph is a more accessible work. If you want to read something completely ####ed up of his get Child of God.How would you rate the trilogy based on what you've read so far? I've been reading with a girl I like and I was thinking this might be our next foray. She likes brutal violence which is why I thought of it, though some reviews comment on how depressing it is. Feeling suicidal yet?We just finished the Millennium Trilogy (Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, etc.) and both liked it a lot, though it could of used some tighter editing.Some other books I'm tossing around as possibilities are:The BeachHis Dark Materials TrilogyAmerican PsychoWater for ElephantsTo Kill a MockingbirdCall of the WildDark Tower seriesLonesome DoveAny comments on these or any books y'all think would be good to read with a chick would be appreciated. Pending Clifford's review I think the Border Trilogy is in the lead.'Clifford said:Reading "the crossing" by Cormac McCarthy. 4 words sum up the border trilogy this far: don't go to Mexico.
No ####ing way.The Breach by Patrick Lee was sitting on a help yourself shelf in a hospital waiting room where I was spending a day, so I read 2/3rds of it. I went back a couple weeks later sat there and finished it.![]()
Mom's getting chemo in a fairly private location. Way.No ####ing way.The Breach by Patrick Lee was sitting on a help yourself shelf in a hospital waiting room where I was spending a day, so I read 2/3rds of it. I went back a couple weeks later sat there and finished it.![]()
Sorry to hear. I thought you meant you went back just to read the book.Mom's getting chemo in a fairly private location. Way.No ####ing way.The Breach by Patrick Lee was sitting on a help yourself shelf in a hospital waiting room where I was spending a day, so I read 2/3rds of it. I went back a couple weeks later sat there and finished it.![]()
I just recently finished all three books, and I found the third book to be the worst of the three. You pretty much expected the revolution given the setup, even as early as book 1, and Katniss does get fairly irritating with her total lack of trust. The part I really disliked though ...Update:Second book was ok. A few decent twists, a decent storyline that seems pretty logical considering where the first book left off.Third book...sucks. Period. It's a turd. Started off alright-ish, but the middle part has been like reading quicksand. Which leads me to another issue, which I will discuss below:No, definitely not. But then again, you're not expecting a book written through the eyes of a 16 year old girl to exactly be Shakespeare, either. If it was, then it'd probably suck, actually.I'm about where you are - 2nd book, maybe 1/2 way through. Entertaining reads, if not high literature.Finished up The Hunger Games over the weekend and starting into Catching Fire. Thought it was a pretty entertaining read. I can see where some would say it's written for teenage girls in mind as the story goes through the eyes of the main character, but I was still pretty entertained. Pretty well written and thought it was a FAST read. Couldn't put the book down once the actual Games started.I hear the two books that follow (Catching Fire and Mockingjay) are lackluster in comparison, but hopefully they're at least as half as entertaining as Hunger Games was.Katniss is about as likable as a fungo bat. I mean, she is completely devoid of personality outside of compassion for her sister and Gale. She totally treats Peeta like a complete tool in the first book, and is downright ####y to almost anyone that tries to help her. And then we get to the moment where this series jumps the shark: District 13. New landscape that's about as fun to envision as a bear cave. New people I could give a flying #### about. And of course, there's Katniss's typical indignant outlook on things, which we're forced to digest because we're looking through her eyes. The whole "revolution" idea seems intriguing, but because we're chained to Katniss's thoughts, hopes, emotions, and such, we're spared a lot of that.And of course, despite her sour#### towards everything, everyone goes out of their way to put her up on this pedestal. What did she do to deserve this? Manipulate Peeta into a fake romance that got an entire nation to fall in love with her like lemmings? She has come nowhere close to earning sympathy from those that try to help her.The third book then starts to drag with more Katniss melodrama. Ugh. I'm about at the middle point of Mockingjay and I'm ready for this thing to be over so I can move on to a book where we're not forced to look through the eyes of such an unlikable #####.Ok, rant over.
I'm doing "Wind Through The Keyhole" now and am liking it so far (maybe 25% done). It's not a behemoth of a book like some of the others in the series - maybe, what? 300-400 pages? - so I'll probably breeze through it by the weekend. As pro says, King could write a zillion of these where we go back to Roland's past (this one takes place after the flashback events of "Wizard & Glass").Finished the series last week. I didn't hate book 3 as much as Brady did, but I wasn't crazy about it either. I didn't have to struggle to get to the end, exactly, but I was ready of it to be over. That said, overall I enjoyed it.
I, too, got tired of Katniss' angst. My God, no wonder people think teenage girls are the worst animals on the face of the Earth. Of course, no of us are Collins' intended audience and I'm sure young women eat this stuff up.
at the second sentence of your spoiler. So true!Starting the Jack Reacher series at the first book, Killing Floor. Liking it so far, but it's very early. I know, it's one of those books I should have read a long time ago, but I haven't been a big reader since my early teen years (late 90's). Hunger Games + an Amazon Kindle Fire has gotten me back into the swing of reading again.They're all pretty similar. It's more like one huge story than a lot of other series I've read that have this many books, if that makes sense.Finished Killing Floor (Reacher book #1) last nite. Good read. Stayed away from the familiar cliches for the most part.I'm assuming all of the Reacher novels have the same writing style/feeling?
I have enjoyed them all.I'd recommend Vince Flynn's novels if you like Reacher as well.I've read 3 of the Reacher novels:1. Killing Floor13. Gone Tomorrow17. The AffairI don't think it would matter, I just read the synopsis of each and plucked the ones that sounded interesting. They are quick easy reads.
I just picked this up today.I'm no Apple fanboy either, just curious.about his story.I just finished "In the garden of beasts".What an incredible story. Highly recommend.I am about 2/3 of the way done with the Steve Jobs biography by Walter Isaacson.I find the book fascinating, not because I am particularly enamored by Jobs (who was quite a #### in many ways), but because it is such an interesting history of the technology business.
In the Garden of Beasts is high on my list of books to read next.I like this thread, but it seems very fiction-centric to me. Maybe we should have a non-fiction books thread. I mainly read non-fiction.I just picked this up today.I'm no Apple fanboy either, just curious.about his story.I just finished "In the garden of beasts".What an incredible story. Highly recommend.I am about 2/3 of the way done with the Steve Jobs biography by Walter Isaacson.I find the book fascinating, not because I am particularly enamored by Jobs (who was quite a #### in many ways), but because it is such an interesting history of the technology business.
My wife read these a few weeks back,Wife is reading the 50 Shades series. :brownchickenbrowncow:
would like other recommendations for wife erotica I can tell her to buy. I'm not sure she's really a romance novel type but liked (barf) twighlight and Sookie Stackhouse stuff.Someone started a non-fiction book thread recently. Shouldn't be buried too deep.I liked In The Garden Of Beasts - maybe not quite as much as Devil In The White City, but it's still a very interesting read.In the Garden of Beasts is high on my list of books to read next.I like this thread, but it seems very fiction-centric to me. Maybe we should have a non-fiction books thread. I mainly read non-fiction.I just picked this up today.I'm no Apple fanboy either, just curious.about his story.I just finished "In the garden of beasts".What an incredible story. Highly recommend.I am about 2/3 of the way done with the Steve Jobs biography by Walter Isaacson.I find the book fascinating, not because I am particularly enamored by Jobs (who was quite a #### in many ways), but because it is such an interesting history of the technology business.
Another positive for Skippy Dies here. Good read.Was just catching up with this thread yesterday. Picked this one up at the library today.Skippy Dies is one of the best books I've read in years. I highly recommend it.Skippy Dies by Paul Murray. I loved this book. I listened to the audiobook in the car, which was well done with a full voice cast. I may go back and read this one, since it is a long book with a ton of themes and I listened to it over many short drives in the car.![]()
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I'm about 1/3 of the way through and am really enjoying Skippy Dies. It took me a few dozen pages to get used to the writing style - it's told in present tense and Murray doesn't always identify who's speaking - but now it's flowing along nicely. Like Eco, Murray has some pet themes/peeves/whatever he includes in the story that really have nothing to do with the plot. But, unlike Eco, he doesn't detour for a thousand pages to recount them - they are inserted efficiently and entertainingly into the narrative. I'm just on the other side of the Halloween Hop - one of the funniest & disturbing events I've ever read - and can't wait to see where Murray takes things from here on out.Another positive for Skippy Dies here. Good read.Was just catching up with this thread yesterday. Picked this one up at the library today.Skippy Dies is one of the best books I've read in years. I highly recommend it.Skippy Dies by Paul Murray. I loved this book. I listened to the audiobook in the car, which was well done with a full voice cast. I may go back and read this one, since it is a long book with a ton of themes and I listened to it over many short drives in the car.![]()
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Just cracked open "John Adams" by McCullough.Not a big Adams guy, but I liked 1776 so I thought I'd give it a whirl. If someone's read it and want's to stop me now, please do.

I read it when it came out, but I won't stop you. I had some complaints about it (I think McCullough was a bit too defensive of Adams in certain places where Adams probably deserves criticism--such as the Alien and Sedition Acts), but it was still a worthwhile read. If you liked 1776, you'd probably like John Adams too.Just cracked open "John Adams" by McCullough.Not a big Adams guy, but I liked 1776 so I thought I'd give it a whirl. If someone's read it and want's to stop me now, please do.![]()
Do tell which ones you prefer. Like many, I'm on a bit of a fantasy renaissance kick thanks to Game of Thrones TV show steering me to the larger book series and am looking for some good stuff to sink my teeth into. I think Abercrombie likes his characters a bit too much and wants them to have a deeper underpinning of essential goodness which reduces the sharpness of his characters at inopportune moments. (I guess my long winded way of saying that I agree). But I still found them to be breezy reads with some really good moments and a few characters that really sparkle.I thought his First Law Trilogy was ok - but there were a ton of (what I considered) large plot holes and characters not acting at all logically. It was a good for a first trilogy but as far as fantasy/sci-fi he usually breaks into the 3rd-4th tier of books I recommend.One Joe Abercrombie's fifth book, The Heroes. Given all the Game of Thrones devotees, I'm a bit surprised that his name doesn't come up here as much. Best part was, I had biz trip to the UK a few weeks ago and finished one of his books about a battle between barbarians and nobility in the shadow of Windsor Castle. Pretty cool.
TOh man, both are amazing. I have read the Rapp ones more than once and the Reacher ones only once though, so I suppose that means I prefer Rapp. I would start with FLynn's non-Rapp book that has a lot of the characters you'll see come up in Rapp books. I think it is called Term Limits - really good starting point, and I would follow it with Transfer of Power (if that's described as hostages in the White House)someone please tell me in what order to read the Mitch Rapp books.....thinking about starting them at the beach next week. Should I go with Reacher or Rapp? I've never read any of either.
Look up Vince Flynn's Wikipedia page. It give the books in order. Id start with the first on Term Limits, then maybe jump to American Assassin (it the 12th book but actually all abou how Rapp came to be). Then just continue on from book 2. I loved them all.ETA: Mitch Rapp Series [7]Mitch Rapp, as portrayed by the author, is an under-cover CIA counter-terrorism agent. The primary focus of the character is thwarting Middle Eastern terrorist attacks on the United States and he is presented as an aggressive operative who is willing to take measures that are more extreme than might be considered commonly acceptable. His constant frustration with procedures and red tape are a major theme throughout the entire series. Profanity and adult themes are common, so the series is recommended for mature audiences.1. † Term Limits (1997) - ISBN 0-671-02317-9 2. Transfer of Power (1999) - ISBN 0-671-02319-5 3. The Third Option (2000) - ISBN 0-671-04731-0 4. Separation of Power (2001) - ISBN 0-671-04733-7 5. Executive Power (2003) - ISBN 0-7434-5395-6 6. Memorial Day (2004) - ISBN 0-7434-5397-2 7. Consent to Kill (2005) - ISBN 0-7432-7036-3 8. Act of Treason (2006) - ISBN 0-7432-7037-1 9. Protect and Defend (2007) - ISBN 978-0-7432-7041-0 10. Extreme Measures (2008) - ISBN 0-7432-7042-8 11. Pursuit of Honor (2009) - ISBN 978-1-4165-9516-8 12. American Assassin (2010) - ISBN 978-1-4165-9518-2 13. Kill Shot (2012) - ISBN 978-1-4165-9520-5 14. Last Man (fall 2012)† Contains some of the characters from the Mitch Rapp series, but Rapp himself does not appear.someone please tell me in what order to read the Mitch Rapp books.....thinking about starting them at the beach next week. Should I go with Reacher or Rapp? I've never read any of either.
I think you might like In the Woods. Excellent debut literary crime novel set in Ireland. Really well done. There have been two sequels so if you like it there are two more very good books sitting out there.Tougher and tougher to figure out which book I should read next. I jump around genres and have exhausted most fantasy which I read a lot last year. Anyone have any suggestions? Just looking for a good book regardless of genre but not really looking for any character series like stuff with Dirk Pitt or Reacher. For reference the last 5 books I have read are:
Lonesome Dove
The Passage
Lamb: Gospel According to Biff
Cloud Atlas
The Rook
Probably looking more towards the longer novels right now but not limited. Also not really looking to dive into any classics right now.
A couple of suggestions. If you liked The Passage, try Carrion Comfort by Dan Simmons. It's outstanding. Another good one by Simmons that's a little more "reality" based is The Terror - a British explorer ship becomes locked in the Arctic Ice. I loved it.One of my all-time favorites is Shantaram by Gregor David Roberts.Finally, I'd recommend Cryptonomicon or The Baroque Cycle (a trilogy) by Neal Stephenson. Kind of his own genre, but highly entertaining.All of these are long and feature highly entertaining characters and fantastic storylines.'The Flying Elvis said:Tougher and tougher to figure out which book I should read next. I jump around genres and have exhausted most fantasy which I read a lot last year. Anyone have any suggestions? Just looking for a good book regardless of genre but not really looking for any character series like stuff with Dirk Pitt or Reacher. For reference the last 5 books I have read are:Lonesome DoveThe PassageLamb: Gospel According to BiffCloud AtlasThe RookProbably looking more towards the longer novels right now but not limited. Also not really looking to dive into any classics right now.
). I'd give it a 2.5 out of 5 so far. I'll stick with it, but hoping for more.