I like an 80's reference as much as the next guy, but I just remember there being way too many "oh c'mon" credibility moments in that book. Admittedly, I don't read that much science fiction, but this was a huge stretch. Plus I thought the protagonist was pretty much a d-bag too.I just read Ready Player One, and I really enjoyed it. If you played video games in the 80s or enjoy thinking about virtual worlds (or both), it's a pretty enjoyable romp. No real big surprises (maybe one twist toward the end), but just a fun book to read through.
yeah, totally agree with you here - I thought RP1 was dumb and contrived. I feel like most people that like it are so nostalgic for the pop culture references that they just ignore the crappy writing.It's okay. All of the references to my childhoold make it interesting, but it almost seems like the author is trying to cram a reference to every damn thing into the book.How is this? I have a couple of cross country flights over the next few days and have it lined up in the queue:Next up: Ready Player One
The Wind Through The Keyhole - King (currently halfway done)
Ready Player One - Cline
Snow Crash - Stephenson
Only about 60 pages in (slow reader), and I think the writing is shoddy and I'm not very interested in the main character yet.
Yep. I'm one of those guys that trumpet the later Dresden books. It really gets a lot stronger around book 3 or 4.I'm about 2/3s of the way through Leviathan Wakes now. It keeps getting better. And it's good to hear that books 2 and 3 continue in that mold.Loved that book and the whole Expanse series. Just finished Abaddon's Gate (Book 3) and agree that all three were very fun reads and done quite well. I don't do a lot of space or sci-fi so this is a nice experience for me. I'm not sure if I want to start Book 4 (Cibola Burn) right away or tackle either The Butcher of Anderson Station or Gods of Risk, two short stories that go along with the Expanse books. Or maybe just take a break from space and do some crime thrillers I have sitting on my Kindle.Now you're talking. Leviathan Wakes is the most fun book I've read in the last decade. And it keeps getting better as you move through books 2 and 3.After a couple of the comments here I substituted Ready Player One for Leviathan Wakes by Corey. I'm a little over 100 pages in and it's really fun. Not exactly high level writing but the authors know how to keep a plot moving (so far). Plus it's space opera Sci-fi.
I also just finished listening to Skin Game, the latest Dresden files book. Butcher's writing really has gotten a LOT better, and the entire series is a just one big ball of fun, in large part due to James Marsters' fantastic narration. There are few things more enjoyable than listening to a good book read by a great narrator - it just really fleshes out the entire story more for me and draws me in even further. The only problem is that bad narration can screw a book up big time for me. Most everything I've heard about The Way of Kings is about how great it is, but I made the mistake of listening to it instead of reading it, and the narrators are killing it for me. I'm about halfway through and have to take a break from it for a while or else I'll just delete it. Someone please tell me it gets better and there's more than just some dudes messing around on the Shattered Plain. Other than Kaladin, I don't like any of the characters or storylines. I don't want to miss out on what's supposed to be an epic series, though - should I just slog my way through it?
As for the Dresden files stuff... I thought the first one was so god awful that, regardless of what people said about the later books, I couldn't bring myself to keep going.
Just finished The Boy Who Drew Monsters by Keith Donahue. Decent little horror novel with multiple perspectives on the same story. Really liked the ending.
Now reading Knockemstiff by Donald Ray Pollock. Very different. Multiple stories in the same town featuring a different voice in each story, but recurring characters throughout. So far I like it.
Starting The Psychopath Whisperer, non-fiction about a psychologist who works in a Canadian prison for seven year to study and interview true psychopaths. Riveting so far.
Thumbs up for Knockemstiff, but it's not for the faint of heart. Incredibly corrupt and profane throughout. Worth the read, and it's a quick one.Just finished The Boy Who Drew Monsters by Keith Donahue. Decent little horror novel with multiple perspectives on the same story. Really liked the ending.
Now reading Knockemstiff by Donald Ray Pollock. Very different. Multiple stories in the same town featuring a different voice in each story, but recurring characters throughout. So far I like it.![]()
:blackdotfinally got around to reading the Broken Empire trilogy by Mark Lawrence, and I thought it definitely deserves all the praise it's gotten. Really cool gritty, violent fantasy/scifi set in a post-apocalyptic Europe a thousand years after WW3 and the collapse of civilization. The ocean has risen and changed the coastlines, there are a bunch of warring small feudal kingdoms in a quasi-medieval society, and characters are always stumbling across traces of ancient advanced technology left over from before the war.
[POSSIBLE SPOILER:]I really liked (though I never can totally understand this stuff) the way he uses quantum physics as a plausible(ish) explanation for the "magic" people are able to do. I'm a sucker for post-apocalyptic fiction anyway and I felt like this was about as well executed as it gets.
other good stuff I've recently read/am reading:
the Oathsworn series by Robert Low - book one, The Whale Road is at http://www.amazon.com/Whale-Road-Oathsworn-Book-ebook/dp/B0051GUES6
This is historical fiction about a group of Norse warriors in the late tenth century and their exploits across Europe, Russia and the Middle East. The first novel is told through the eyes of Orm "Bear Slayer" Ruriksson, a teenager who joins his longlost father (navigator of the raiding ship Fjord Elk, under command of the jarl Einar the Black) on a quest to find Attila the Hun's burial mound, which is supposed to be full of treasure, and then the other books follow Orm and the crew of the Elk through additional wars and adventures. This series is awesome, really well-written and full of badass characters, dark humor and brutal violence. I've seen them referred to as fantasy novels by a couple of folks on Goodreads and Amazon, but it's basically straight historical fiction - there are some mentions of magic, witches, etc., but it's just presented as part of the beliefs and religion of the time, not as actually happening.
I really enjoy the way Low writes - it's intelligent and fast-paced with excellent characterization, and he writes great action sequences. He also has another historical fiction series called The Kingdom about the Scottish war for independence via William Wallace and Robert the Bruce which I'll be checking out as soon as I'm done with these.
Gallow: The Fateguard Trilogy by Nathan Hawke - http://amzn.com/B00JZVTVVE
This is another Viking/Norse warrior saga, but this one is set in an alternate world and is more of a fantasy action series with overtones of historical fiction. I've heard a lot of people describe this as the literary heir to David Gemmell's Drenai stuff - I've only read Legend, and I think Gallow is miles ahead of Gemmell in terms of writing quality, but I can definitely see the parallels with the focus on honor and how a man's character defines his choices. I had never heard of this series before I picked it up on a whim, but I absolutely loved it. Great stuff, also full of brutal violence and dark humor - it had me turning pages non-stop and hating the fact that it had to end somewhere.
Added both to wishlistThorn said:Finished Boy on Ice, about Derek Boogaard, the hockey enforcer who died in 2012 at age 28. Scary and depressing stuff about the business of sport, and the kind of access these players have to drugs.
Starting The Psychopath Whisperer, non-fiction about a psychologist who works in a Canadian prison for seven year to study and interview true psychopaths. Riveting so far.
Meh, been there, done that...finally got around to reading the Broken Empire trilogy by Mark Lawrence, and I thought it definitely deserves all the praise it's gotten. Really cool gritty, violent fantasy/scifi set in a post-apocalyptic Europe a thousand years after WW3 and the collapse of civilization. The ocean has risen and changed the coastlines, there are a bunch of warring small feudal kingdoms in a quasi-medieval society, and characters are always stumbling across traces of ancient advanced technology left over from before the war.
Lehigh98 said:Meh, been there, done that...http://youtu.be/LhAobPugvskfinally got around to reading the Broken Empire trilogy by Mark Lawrence, and I thought it definitely deserves all the praise it's gotten. Really cool gritty, violent fantasy/scifi set in a post-apocalyptic Europe a thousand years after WW3 and the collapse of civilization. The ocean has risen and changed the coastlines, there are a bunch of warring small feudal kingdoms in a quasi-medieval society, and characters are always stumbling across traces of ancient advanced technology left over from before the war.
Finished it. Even with the references that struck a chord with me, I thought it was pretty meh. Writing was pretty bad.yeah, totally agree with you here - I thought RP1 was dumb and contrived. I feel like most people that like it are so nostalgic for the pop culture references that they just ignore the crappy writing.It's okay. All of the references to my childhoold make it interesting, but it almost seems like the author is trying to cram a reference to every damn thing into the book.How is this? I have a couple of cross country flights over the next few days and have it lined up in the queue:Next up: Ready Player One
The Wind Through The Keyhole - King (currently halfway done)
Ready Player One - Cline
Snow Crash - Stephenson
Only about 60 pages in (slow reader), and I think the writing is shoddy and I'm not very interested in the main character yet.
Dog Stars was excellent imo and there were several others in this thread that liked and mentioned it too. There were also a couple folks I remember who didn't like the stream of consciousness style narration too much.shuke said:Finished it. Even with the references that struck a chord with me, I thought it was pretty meh. Writing was pretty bad.yeah, totally agree with you here - I thought RP1 was dumb and contrived. I feel like most people that like it are so nostalgic for the pop culture references that they just ignore the crappy writing.It's okay. All of the references to my childhoold make it interesting, but it almost seems like the author is trying to cram a reference to every damn thing into the book.How is this? I have a couple of cross country flights over the next few days and have it lined up in the queue:Next up: Ready Player One
The Wind Through The Keyhole - King (currently halfway done)
Ready Player One - Cline
Snow Crash - Stephenson
Only about 60 pages in (slow reader), and I think the writing is shoddy and I'm not very interested in the main character yet.
Next up: The Dog Stars by Peter Heller. I think someone here recommended it.
Also just started reading The Hobbit with my son. I've never read it before.
I just finished this and I thought it was pretty good. All the references too my youth didn't hurt, but even without those I don't think I would call it crappy writing.yeah, totally agree with you here - I thought RP1 was dumb and contrived. I feel like most people that like it are so nostalgic for the pop culture references that they just ignore the crappy writing.It's okay. All of the references to my childhoold make it interesting, but it almost seems like the author is trying to cram a reference to every damn thing into the book.How is this? I have a couple of cross country flights over the next few days and have it lined up in the queue:Next up: Ready Player One
The Wind Through The Keyhole - King (currently halfway done)
Ready Player One - Cline
Snow Crash - Stephenson
Only about 60 pages in (slow reader), and I think the writing is shoddy and I'm not very interested in the main character yet.
I loved it. Then again i'm not a "literature" guy that needs complex writing to be entertained.GoFishTN said:I just finished this and I thought it was pretty good. All the references too my youth didn't hurt, but even without those I don't think I would call it crappy writing.yeah, totally agree with you here - I thought RP1 was dumb and contrived. I feel like most people that like it are so nostalgic for the pop culture references that they just ignore the crappy writing.It's okay. All of the references to my childhoold make it interesting, but it almost seems like the author is trying to cram a reference to every damn thing into the book.How is this? I have a couple of cross country flights over the next few days and have it lined up in the queue:Next up: Ready Player One
The Wind Through The Keyhole - King (currently halfway done)
Ready Player One - Cline
Snow Crash - Stephenson
Only about 60 pages in (slow reader), and I think the writing is shoddy and I'm not very interested in the main character yet.![]()
This is on my spring break reading list. I liked Devil in the White City, but haven't read any of his other stuff.Any fans of Erik Larsen, he's got a new book out tomorrow. Dead Wake, about the sinking of the Lusitania. It appears it's done in the same style as Devil In The White City and his other recent books.
I read a review of this over the weekend. Sounds good.This is on my spring break reading list. I liked Devil in the White City, but haven't read any of his other stuff.Any fans of Erik Larsen, he's got a new book out tomorrow. Dead Wake, about the sinking of the Lusitania. It appears it's done in the same style as Devil In The White City and his other recent books.
By no means am I either, as is well documented in this thread. But I need a little more than "Then I did this. Then this happened. Then I did this because this. etc. etc."I loved it. Then again i'm not a "literature" guy that needs complex writing to be entertained.GoFishTN said:I just finished this and I thought it was pretty good. All the references too my youth didn't hurt, but even without those I don't think I would call it crappy writing.yeah, totally agree with you here - I thought RP1 was dumb and contrived. I feel like most people that like it are so nostalgic for the pop culture references that they just ignore the crappy writing.It's okay. All of the references to my childhoold make it interesting, but it almost seems like the author is trying to cram a reference to every damn thing into the book.How is this? I have a couple of cross country flights over the next few days and have it lined up in the queue:Next up: Ready Player One
The Wind Through The Keyhole - King (currently halfway done)
Ready Player One - Cline
Snow Crash - Stephenson
Only about 60 pages in (slow reader), and I think the writing is shoddy and I'm not very interested in the main character yet.![]()
Sounds like a Mathew Reilly book i read.By no means am I either, as is well documented in this thread. But I need a little more than "Then I did this. Then this happened. Then I did this because this. etc. etc."I loved it. Then again i'm not a "literature" guy that needs complex writing to be entertained.GoFishTN said:I just finished this and I thought it was pretty good. All the references too my youth didn't hurt, but even without those I don't think I would call it crappy writing.yeah, totally agree with you here - I thought RP1 was dumb and contrived. I feel like most people that like it are so nostalgic for the pop culture references that they just ignore the crappy writing.It's okay. All of the references to my childhoold make it interesting, but it almost seems like the author is trying to cram a reference to every damn thing into the book.How is this? I have a couple of cross country flights over the next few days and have it lined up in the queue:Next up: Ready Player One
The Wind Through The Keyhole - King (currently halfway done)
Ready Player One - Cline
Snow Crash - Stephenson
Only about 60 pages in (slow reader), and I think the writing is shoddy and I'm not very interested in the main character yet.![]()
Yup. I'll lighten it up before moving on to his fiction. Does Carl Hiaassen have anything fresh? I need to laugh after this one.This is the most bracing and affecting work of philosophical speculation I've ever read. Not for the weak of heart or mind, Mr. Ligotti's 'contrivance' is a dense and remarkable work of linguistic precision and poetic power, a horror story in which the uncanny monsters are us, and we've known it all along, in the backs of our minds: the self is an illusion, the body a gene-duplicating bio-robot, consciousness a tragic aberration that has imprisoned mankind to a life of suffering and reproduction. Here, the carnivorous universes of Lovecraft and Barron are shown to be not creations of fantastical speculation, but the universe in which we reside as deluded mistakes, born to suffer and die and make replicants to do the same.
Realized that I had forgotten to report back on The Devil All The Time: I really enjoyed this one a lot! It was a very quick read that kept pace throughout the book. Pollack is definitely one that I will read again. I would certainly recommend this!Just picked up a hardback copy of a book titled The Devil All The Time by Donald Ray Pollock. I read some reviews comparing his style to McCarthy and O'Connor, so I'm pretty anxious to dive into this one. It appears to be a pretty wild ride.![]()
Nice! I read The Devil All The Time last month. I had intended to pick up Knockemstiff first but the place I went to was out of stock. The Devil All The Time was there and I decided to just start with it instead. Knockemstiff definitely remains on my list after reading The Devil All The Time.Thumbs up for Knockemstiff, but it's not for the faint of heart. Incredibly corrupt and profane throughout. Worth the read, and it's a quick one.Just finished The Boy Who Drew Monsters by Keith Donahue. Decent little horror novel with multiple perspectives on the same story. Really liked the ending.
Now reading Knockemstiff by Donald Ray Pollock. Very different. Multiple stories in the same town featuring a different voice in each story, but recurring characters throughout. So far I like it.![]()
Now onto The Wolf in Winter, the latest in John Connolly's Charlie Parker series.
Great TV series as well. Was on A&E but now picked up by Netflix.Oh yeah, also been reading the Walt Longmire series by Craig Johnson - those are freaking awesome books, sort of like a northwestern James Lee Burke with a sense of humor.
it's all good man, different strokes for different folks. I'm certainly no highbrow reader, I just didn't think it was a very good book, but I know I'm in the minority on that one.I loved it. Then again i'm not a "literature" guy that needs complex writing to be entertained.I just finished this and I thought it was pretty good. All the references too my youth didn't hurt, but even without those I don't think I would call it crappy writing.yeah, totally agree with you here - I thought RP1 was dumb and contrived. I feel like most people that like it are so nostalgic for the pop culture references that they just ignore the crappy writing.It's okay. All of the references to my childhoold make it interesting, but it almost seems like the author is trying to cram a reference to every damn thing into the book.How is this? I have a couple of cross country flights over the next few days and have it lined up in the queue:Next up: Ready Player One
The Wind Through The Keyhole - King (currently halfway done)Ready Player One - ClineSnow Crash - Stephenson
Only about 60 pages in (slow reader), and I think the writing is shoddy and I'm not very interested in the main character yet.![]()
Just started the first book in the series (probably on your recommendation). I like the premise a lot, but man........ the characters so far are straight out of Central Tropes IMO (at least, the cops are....don't have a read on the chick yet). I'm only a few chapters in, though, so hopefully they will get a little more interesting as we go. Anyway, I'll report back when I'm deeper into this thing.recently finished The Ashes Of Pompei, the latest book in Sam Sisivath's "Babylon" series - I've mentioned this series here before and it's definitely worth checking out if you're into post-apocalyptic fiction. It's about a group of survivors following the one-night takeover of the world by night-walking, undead creatures with a hive mind, and it's got some parallels story-wise with stuff like 28 Days Later or the Walking Dead. I think the writing is absolutely awesome, lots of action, horror, black humor and great characters.
I don't think it was quite that bad. But I will admit it seemed to be written in the YA style that has become so popular.By no means am I either, as is well documented in this thread. But I need a little more than "Then I did this. Then this happened. Then I did this because this. etc. etc."I loved it. Then again i'm not a "literature" guy that needs complex writing to be entertained.I just finished this and I thought it was pretty good. All the references too my youth didn't hurt, but even without those I don't think I would call it crappy writing.yeah, totally agree with you here - I thought RP1 was dumb and contrived. I feel like most people that like it are so nostalgic for the pop culture references that they just ignore the crappy writing.It's okay. All of the references to my childhoold make it interesting, but it almost seems like the author is trying to cram a reference to every damn thing into the book.How is this? I have a couple of cross country flights over the next few days and have it lined up in the queue:Next up: Ready Player One
The Wind Through The Keyhole - King (currently halfway done)
Ready Player One - Cline
Snow Crash - Stephenson
Only about 60 pages in (slow reader), and I think the writing is shoddy and I'm not very interested in the main character yet.![]()
cool - yeah, I thought the characterization felt a little flat at first too because you just get dropped right into the action without much backstory, but that got a lot better for me as the book moves along and you get better acquainted with the survivors. Let me know what you think when you're done.Just started the first book in the series (probably on your recommendation). I like the premise a lot, but man........ the characters so far are straight out of Central Tropes IMO (at least, the cops are....don't have a read on the chick yet). I'm only a few chapters in, though, so hopefully they will get a little more interesting as we go. Anyway, I'll report back when I'm deeper into this thing.recently finished The Ashes Of Pompei, the latest book in Sam Sisivath's "Babylon" series - I've mentioned this series here before and it's definitely worth checking out if you're into post-apocalyptic fiction. It's about a group of survivors following the one-night takeover of the world by night-walking, undead creatures with a hive mind, and it's got some parallels story-wise with stuff like 28 Days Later or the Walking Dead. I think the writing is absolutely awesome, lots of action, horror, black humor and great characters.
He's a true great. Enjoy.Anyone like Graham Greene? Just got into him and he's fantastic. I'll likeky burn through most of his library this year. What a smart writer.
Now this Graham I'm not so sure about. It's pseudo-science quackery, right?Also been slowly reading Underworld by Graham Hancock. Really fascinating stuff to think about and had been wanting to read this one after listening to him and Randall Carlson on the Joe Rogan podcast.
I dont put that label on much, but yes, i am sure it is dismissed as much.Now this Graham I'm not so sure about. It's pseudo-science quackery, right?Also been slowly reading Underworld by Graham Hancock. Really fascinating stuff to think about and had been wanting to read this one after listening to him and Randall Carlson on the Joe Rogan podcast.
Yeah, that may not have been the best King to start with. I long ago made peace with King being a "the journey's the thing" kind of writer. The funny thing with him is, the longer the work, the harder time he seems to have ending it.* Under The Dome (Stephen King): My first King book. Son told me it was great. I'm torn here. King is a masterful writer with a very good sense of humor. But the story moved so slowly and dragged on and on. And the ending really disappointed. Its my understanding this is typical King. Great writing but goes on forever and gets bogged down. One day I'll read The Stand but not anytime soon.
I thought it was one of the worst books I've ever read.* A Canticle for Leibowitz: Blah. I didn't see what the big deal was as this is considered a Sci-Fi Classic. Maybe it was over my head.