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Good insight.Aren't most males between 5'8" and 6'3"?
I'm thinking 40'8" tall, 8,000 lbs. would be pretty hard to tackle.
I disagree, to an extent.look at guys like Chris Brown, Leroy Hoard, Rod Bernstine, i.e., tall lanky runners that barely had 1 good season between them. on the flip side,you have Ahman Green, Emmitt Smith, LT, Corey Dillon, Priest Holmes. Terrell Davis.For small guys, you have Joe Morris, Barry Sanders, Dave Meggett, MJD, Warrick Dunn, etc..the 6'+ tall RB is not the prototype..Now I know Eric Dickerson was 6'3", but he's the exception to the rule.Most RB's that survive 5+ seasons, have a powerful lower body, huge legs, a tad on the short side ( usually between 5'9and 5'11)..and don't get hit straight-on..Warrick Dunn doesn't get crushed by 300LB linemen too often..Chris Brown got smacked by everyone , as did Leroy Hoard...AnonymousBob said:If you can handle around twenty carries a game and not get hurt while averaging 4+ ypc then you're the ideal size.I really don't feel size is as big a deal as people try to make it. If you have talent and can take a pounding then then you're golden.
Should probably throw a bone to SC as well.5'9 to 5'11210-225Former SEC or "the U" player
He should be able to kick your ###, too. However, about 6'1" and 205-220 seems to be the average size of most of the great heavyweight champions in boxing history too. I'd say the height favors the boxers a little in terms of reach advantage, but the size is eerily similar. Also similar is the speed/power ratio that makes good RBs. Of course, you can have your 6'5" 245 lb Lennox lewis or 6'3"235 lb Eddie George. But you can also get 5'8" 175 lb W.Dunn and 5'11" 185 lb Rocky Marciano or 6'1 187 lb Jack Dempsey. The point is, the average of the best and most dangerous athletes generally fall around the 6' 210-220 pound range.I'm thinking 40'8" tall, 8,000 lbs. would be pretty hard to tackle.![]()
Coincidently, that's how big I am. I'm heading off to training camp now.He should be able to kick your ###, too. However, about 6'1" and 205-220 seems to be the average size of most of the great heavyweight champions in boxing history too. I'd say the height favors the boxers a little in terms of reach advantage, but the size is eerily similar. Also similar is the speed/power ratio that makes good RBs. Of course, you can have your 6'5" 245 lb Lennox lewis or 6'3"235 lb Eddie George. But you can also get 5'8" 175 lb W.Dunn and 5'11" 185 lb Rocky Marciano or 6'1 187 lb Jack Dempsey. The point is, the average of the best and most dangerous athletes generally fall around the 6' 210-220 pound range.I'm thinking 40'8" tall, 8,000 lbs. would be pretty hard to tackle.![]()
I don't think there is an answer for this. I decided to look up the top 25 RB's in terms of career yardage. Granted, they played during different eras, but here are some facts about the all-time top 25 list (stats gathered from http://www.pro-football-reference.com/):
- None of the top 4 were over 6'0"
- None of the top 4 were over 210lbs
- Avg size of the top 4 is 5'9.5"/204.25lbs, with none of them off this target by more than 1.5" or 4.25lbs
- Only 3 of the top 10 were over 6'0"
- Only 2 of the top 10 were over 220lbs
- 4 of the top 25 were under 200lbs
- None of the top 25 are under 5'8" or over 6'3"
Top 25 by height
6'3" - 2
6'2" - 5
6'1" - 3
6'0" - 3
5'11" - 4
5'10" - 5
5'9" - 1
5'8" - 2
Twenty of the top 25 were between 5'10" and 6'2". I was surprised that the number over 6'0" was as high as it was. Avg height is 5'11.75"
Top 25 by weight
240lbs and over - 2
236-240lbs - 0
231-235lbs - 3
226-230lbs - 2
221-225lbs - 1
216-220lbs - 6
211-215lbs - 1
206-210lbs - 4
201-205lbs - 1
200lbs and under - 5
Seems like the weight is more distributed than the height. 10 are 210lbs and under, 8 are 211-225lbs, and 7 are over 225lbs. Avg weight is 215.3lbs.
To give a better idea of current day, of the 25 top all-time RB's, the only ones that are still active (listed on a roster) are:
CMart - 5'11"/207lbs - likely to hang 'em up
Faulk - 5'10"/208lbs - likely to hang 'em up
Edge - 6'0"/216lbs
Fred Taylor - 6'0"/231lbs
Dunn - 5'8"/178lbs
LT - 5'10"/220lbs
SA - 6'0"/218lbs
If you toss out the high and low of each (which turn out to be Warrick Dunn and Fred Taylor), the list becomes:
CMart - 5'11"/207lbs
Faulk - 5'10"/208lbs
Edge - 6'0"/216lbs
LT - 5'10"/220lbs
SA - 6'0"/218lbs
That's a pretty compact list. Height only varies by 2 inches; weight only varies by 13lbs. Avg is 5'11"/214lbs.
Just because I am bored, let's compare that to the most rushing yards over the last 5 years. Here is the top 10 list (I disagreed with some of the weights below, so I listed specs from NFL.com on the ones that differed by more than 5lbs):
LT - 5'10"/220lbs
Tiki - 5'10/195lbs
SA - 6'0"/218lbs (225lbs) - avg 221lbs
Edge - 6'0"/216lbs
Portis - 5'11"/205lbs (212lbs) - avg 208lbs
JLew - 6'0"/240lbs
Fred Taylor - 6'0"/231lbs
Priest - 5'9"/205lbs
Ahman - 6'0"/213lbs
Deuce - 6'1"/220lbs (232lbs) - avg 226lbs (although I think 232lbs is more accurate)
If you toss out the high and low of each (which turn out to be Priest/Deuce for height, Tiki/JLew for weight), the average becomes 5'11.5"/218lbs.
What does all this mean, besides the fact that I have no life? Seems that RB's are putting on a few more lbs to bulk up for the pounding they take. Overall, the average looks to be around 5'11"/215lbs.
I'm 5'10'' 220lb myself, it just doesn't look the same as it did 8 years agoCoincidently, that's how big I am. I'm heading off to training camp now.He should be able to kick your ###, too. However, about 6'1" and 205-220 seems to be the average size of most of the great heavyweight champions in boxing history too. I'd say the height favors the boxers a little in terms of reach advantage, but the size is eerily similar. Also similar is the speed/power ratio that makes good RBs. Of course, you can have your 6'5" 245 lb Lennox lewis or 6'3"235 lb Eddie George. But you can also get 5'8" 175 lb W.Dunn and 5'11" 185 lb Rocky Marciano or 6'1 187 lb Jack Dempsey. The point is, the average of the best and most dangerous athletes generally fall around the 6' 210-220 pound range.I'm thinking 40'8" tall, 8,000 lbs. would be pretty hard to tackle.![]()
So the ideal would be a 3 ft tall running back with 3 foot legs, weighing 250lbs.Emmitt Smith was the perfect size. Strong enough to go between the tackles, quick enough to get outside and blockish enough so he was hard to wrap up. Your tall, lanky running backs have the long arms and legs that make it easier to grab a hold of, not to mention they usually are wider in the shoulders and narrow in the hips that cause them to topple over easier. While your short blockish guys have a better base and are hard to knock off their short pegs.
So the ideal would be a 3 ft tall running back with 3 foot legs, weighing 250lbs.Emmitt Smith was the perfect size. Strong enough to go between the tackles, quick enough to get outside and blockish enough so he was hard to wrap up. Your tall, lanky running backs have the long arms and legs that make it easier to grab a hold of, not to mention they usually are wider in the shoulders and narrow in the hips that cause them to topple over easier. While your short blockish guys have a better base and are hard to knock off their short pegs.
He would be unstoppable- it would be like shooting a cannon ball downfield.Two Deep said:Ozymandias said:So the ideal would be a 3 ft tall running back with 3 foot legs, weighing 250lbs.Two Deep said:Emmitt Smith was the perfect size. Strong enough to go between the tackles, quick enough to get outside and blockish enough so he was hard to wrap up. Your tall, lanky running backs have the long arms and legs that make it easier to grab a hold of, not to mention they usually are wider in the shoulders and narrow in the hips that cause them to topple over easier. While your short blockish guys have a better base and are hard to knock off their short pegs.If he can run in the4.4-4.5 range I would say yes. No doubt he would break all the running back records.