What's the value of a QB rushing yard (1 Viewer)

[Chase Stuart]

We don't often talk about a QB's combined yards; usually his passing yards and rushing yards are named separately (if the rushing yards are named at all). This makes me think we don't believe they're equivalent.

So are they equivalent because 10 yards is 10 yards?

Are rushing yards inferior because QBs are supposed to pass?

Are rushing yards superior because a QB that throws for 250 yards and rushes for 100 yards is more difficult to stop than a QB that throws for 350 yards (I don't know if this is true; just throwing it out there)?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

It depends on your scoring system.

Rushing yards are generally worth more because the results from rushing plays have a lower standard deviation than the results from passing plays.

Getting four yards every play is worth more than getting eight yards half the time and zero yards the other half.

 

[FairWarning]

We do 2x rushing/receiving to passing, no matter who gets the yards.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

We don't often talk about a QB's combined yards; usually his passing yards and rushing yards are named separately (if the rushing yards are named at all). This makes me think we don't believe they're equivalent.So are they equivalent because 10 yards is 10 yards?Are rushing yards inferior because QBs are supposed to pass?Are rushing yards superior because a QB that throws for 250 yards and rushes for 100 yards is more difficult to stop than a QB that throws for 350 yards (I don't know if this is true; just throwing it out there)?

Chase,I think you're asking a philosophical question here.In the NFL, i.e. REAL football, not fantasy football, every yard is (roughly) equal, except for the last one that leads to the end zone.In the fantasy football realm, the scoring of passing yards is bias against QBs simply because of normalization. If we game 0.1 points per passing yards or whatever units / scoring system you use that is the equivalent of a rushing yard, QBs would put up a ton of points and well beyond most other positional players. Fantasy has tried to normalize that by lowering passing yardage scoring to be more aligned to rushing or receiving, just as PPR has been implemented in many leagues to again artificially boost WR/TE scoring.The true value of the yards are equivalent, but for fantasy purposes they usually are not.

 

[RC94]

We don't often talk about a QB's combined yards; usually his passing yards and rushing yards are named separately (if the rushing yards are named at all). This makes me think we don't believe they're equivalent.So are they equivalent because 10 yards is 10 yards?Are rushing yards inferior because QBs are supposed to pass?Are rushing yards superior because a QB that throws for 250 yards and rushes for 100 yards is more difficult to stop than a QB that throws for 350 yards (I don't know if this is true; just throwing it out there)?

Chase,I think you're asking a philosophical question here.In the NFL, i.e. REAL football, not fantasy football, every yard is (roughly) equal, except for the last one that leads to the end zone.In the fantasy football realm, the scoring of passing yards is bias against QBs simply because of normalization. If we game 0.1 points per passing yards or whatever units / scoring system you use that is the equivalent of a rushing yard, QBs would put up a ton of points and well beyond most other positional players. Fantasy has tried to normalize that by lowering passing yardage scoring to be more aligned to rushing or receiving, just as PPR has been implemented in many leagues to again artificially boost WR/TE scoring.The true value of the yards are equivalent, but for fantasy purposes they usually are not.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Sorry for the confusion. I meant NFL, not fantasy.

 

[dgreen]

In the NFL, i.e. REAL football, not fantasy football, every yard is (roughly) equal, except for the last one that leads to the end zone.

Every yard is of equal value, but that's not the question. The question Chase is asking also deals with who gets the yards and how they get them.As a GM, would you be indifferent between these two QBs (all else being equal)?QB1 - 3500 pass yards, 0 rush yardsQB2 - 2500 pass yards, 1000 rush yards

 

[Chase Stuart]

In the NFL, i.e. REAL football, not fantasy football, every yard is (roughly) equal, except for the last one that leads to the end zone.

Every yard is of equal value, but that's not the question. The question Chase is asking also deals with who gets the yards and how they get them.As a GM, would you be indifferent between these two QBs (all else being equal)?QB1 - 3500 pass yards, 0 rush yardsQB2 - 2500 pass yards, 1000 rush yards

That's my basic question. I've got a few ideas on how I want to answer this, but not many. I'm more shuked than anything, so I'd like to hear some thoughts.

 

[John Mamula]

In the NFL, i.e. REAL football, not fantasy football, every yard is (roughly) equal, except for the last one that leads to the end zone.

Every yard is of equal value, but that's not the question. The question Chase is asking also deals with who gets the yards and how they get them.As a GM, would you be indifferent between these two QBs (all else being equal)?QB1 - 3500 pass yards, 0 rush yardsQB2 - 2500 pass yards, 1000 rush yards

That's my basic question. I've got a few ideas on how I want to answer this, but not many. I'm more shuked than anything, so I'd like to hear some thoughts.

Do you think that QBs who rush more are more prone to be injured?

 

[dgreen]

In the NFL, i.e. REAL football, not fantasy football, every yard is (roughly) equal, except for the last one that leads to the end zone.

Every yard is of equal value, but that's not the question. The question Chase is asking also deals with who gets the yards and how they get them.As a GM, would you be indifferent between these two QBs (all else being equal)?QB1 - 3500 pass yards, 0 rush yardsQB2 - 2500 pass yards, 1000 rush yards

That's my basic question. I've got a few ideas on how I want to answer this, but not many. I'm more shuked than anything, so I'd like to hear some thoughts.

Do you think that QBs who rush more are more prone to be injured?

I think the hits a QB takes in the pocket are generally much worse than ones while they are running.

 

[Chase Stuart]

In the NFL, i.e. REAL football, not fantasy football, every yard is (roughly) equal, except for the last one that leads to the end zone.

Every yard is of equal value, but that's not the question. The question Chase is asking also deals with who gets the yards and how they get them.As a GM, would you be indifferent between these two QBs (all else being equal)?QB1 - 3500 pass yards, 0 rush yardsQB2 - 2500 pass yards, 1000 rush yards

That's my basic question. I've got a few ideas on how I want to answer this, but not many. I'm more shuked than anything, so I'd like to hear some thoughts.

Do you think that QBs who rush more are more prone to be injured?

I don't think so, but that's a good point. I'd prefer to put the injury issue to the side for the purposes of this question.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Sorry for the confusion. I meant NFL, not fantasy.

I thought this was obvious; my first paragraph was a joke.I think the rushing yards would tend to be worth more for the reasons I gave above. You could look QBs with similar total yardage at ProTrade and see if their earnings are correlated with rushyard-passyard ratio. Try to control for TDs, I guess. Or you could do the same thing with FootballOutsiders' total (passing plus rushing) DPAR.