When does the NFL fianlize their stats for the week? (1 Viewer)

[plymkr]

Once in a while I know the NFL adjusts their official stats. When do these become final? I am praying that TJ -1 rushing will turn into a pass. We get bonus points for hitting 100 yds...which put my opponent up by 1 and gave me the Loss.

He gets his final 17 yards rec. on the last offensive play of the game! (Palmer interception on next play)

I am sure I am not the only that this hurt. Do I have any hope? Any prayer?

It's just not fair!!

Someone please give me positive news. Make my day.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Thank you for the update.

 

[plymkr]

Thank you for the update.

The post was not about my losing. That was just add-on.I know that this happens. It happened last year I believe with McNabb. IIRC...A play was switched from a long touchdown, to a short completion and a fumble recovery. Something like that.Anyway, don't give me crap, because the point of the post was not to vent, (I can do that in another thread) but to see if anyone has any info regarding when this becomes official.Glad you could stop in, have a nice day.

 

[BroadwayG]

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Truly the only real answer.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Thank you for the update.

The post was not about my losing. That was just add-on.I know that this happens. It happened last year I believe with McNabb. IIRC...A play was switched from a long touchdown, to a short completion and a fumble recovery. Something like that.Anyway, don't give me crap, because the point of the post was not to vent, (I can do that in another thread) but to see if anyone has any info regarding when this becomes official.Glad you could stop in, have a nice day.

If the point of the post was not to vent then why didn't you just end it after your first two sentences?

 

[Geaux Cowboys]

The -1yd play was a lateral, clearly passed backwards.

 

[Magnus_CA]

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Once in a while I know the NFL adjusts their official stats. When do these become final? I am praying that TJ -1 rushing will turn into a pass. We get bonus points for hitting 100 yds...which put my opponent up by 1 and gave me the Loss.

He gets his final 17 yards rec. on the last offensive play of the game! (Palmer interception on next play)

I am sure I am not the only that this hurt. Do I have any hope? Any prayer?

It's just not fair!!

Someone please give me positive news. Make my day.

I believe the latest is Wednesday.Go here to check out:

http://www.quickstats.com/nfl/nfl-fixes.htm

 

[Sweeper]

Even if the NFL changes their stats, you have to go and see if your league recognizes those changes. Most leagues I've been in are final on Tuesday and do not recognize changes that the NFL makes on Wednesday.

ETA: PTTMFS

 

[joffer]

The -1yd play was a lateral, clearly passed backwards.

knew when it happened that it would cause a stir. the fact that he ended up on exactly 100 receiving yards just magnified it 10x

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Even if the NFL changes their stats, you have to go and see if your league recognizes those changes. Most leagues I've been in are final on Tuesday and do not recognize changes that the NFL makes on Wednesday.

ETA: PTTMFS

This is a fact. The commish of a league doesn't have to change it after monday nite football is over, plus some league software can't/or will have problems and mess up the whole season.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

The only time I ever had a stats mistake corrected was three years ago. Lost the Championship by .05 points, but after I saw the stats (not a correction by NFL in this case) and read our league rules. Plus these rules that were written in our league but never took affect the entire season because it rarely happens that much, I told my commish about it (its a written rule) and ended up winning . The rule was..there will be minus points for minus rushing yards (never stated what player tho) so he had Manning and Colts were winning galore, Manning down to last 1.5 minutes of game, what does he do kneels 4 times (thats declare minus rushing yards then). I won by 1 point due to what Manning did.

So it's always good to check your league rules to the end, your'll never know!

 

[plymkr]

The only time I ever had a stats mistake corrected was three years ago. Lost the Championship by .05 points, but after I saw the stats (not a correction by NFL in this case) and read our league rules. Plus these rules that were written in our league but never took affect the entire season because it rarely happens that much, I told my commish about it (its a written rule) and ended up winning . The rule was..there will be minus points for minus rushing yards (never stated what player tho) so he had Manning and Colts were winning galore, Manning down to last 1.5 minutes of game, what does he do kneels 4 times (thats declare minus rushing yards then). I won by 1 point due to what Manning did.So it's always good to check your league rules to the end, your'll never know!

Thanx for your help fireflies. We play by the actual NFL stats, not what some website says...Our league will change it, but it is up to the owner to bring it to the attention of the commish. It has happened before, but the commish doesn't go out of his way to adjust it. (It's not hard to adjust either, as I was commish for several years)It also appears that that site requires a subscription...hmm...there must be someplace. I imagine I will hear it in the next day or two.

 

[plymkr]

The -1yd play was a lateral, clearly passed backwards.

knew when it happened that it would cause a stir. the fact that he ended up on exactly 100 receiving yards just magnified it 10x

I looked on the DVR, but didn't start recording soon enough.It did go backwards eh?I can hope.

 

[GDogg]

The -1yd play was a lateral, clearly passed backwards.

knew when it happened that it would cause a stir. the fact that he ended up on exactly 100 receiving yards just magnified it 10x

I looked on the DVR, but didn't start recording soon enough.It did go backwards eh?I can hope.

NFL.com and Sportsline are counting it as a rush for -1 yards...a lateral.

 

[awesomeness]

In week 2 i had won a game only to have it changed (either on a tuesday or wednesday) to a tie, after schobel's sack was changed to a half sack with him and kelsay ( i had schobel and he had kelsay). On ESPN, which is the site my league uses, it says that stats can be changed until the following saturday afternoon.

And this week, it says im tied 173-173. I happen to have housh. So if there is any stat change, i will likely lose and will notify you if you like.

 

[Islander]

In one league I am the commish, there is a very close matchup I am not involved in, and since it's a PPR league, if this counts as a catch rather than a lateral it would change the result of that matchup. When I saw the play live, I thought it was a forward pass. Unfortunately they did not show the replay (why would they?). If someone taped the game, I would appreciate if you could take a look to see if it was clearly forward, clearly backward, or tough to tell. I will be scanning stat changes this week as well. Thanks for starting this thread plymkr, I was thinking about doing the same thing (I would not have put the same "complaining" spin to it however).

 

[plymkr]

In week 2 i had won a game only to have it changed (either on a tuesday or wednesday) to a tie, after schobel's sack was changed to a half sack with him and kelsay ( i had schobel and he had kelsay). On ESPN, which is the site my league uses, it says that stats can be changed until the following saturday afternoon. And this week, it says im tied 173-173. I happen to have housh. So if there is any stat change, i will likely lose and will notify you if you like.

That would be.....well.......AWESOMENESS!!!

 

[plymkr]

In one league I am the commish, there is a very close matchup I am not involved in, and since it's a PPR league, if this counts as a catch rather than a lateral it would change the result of that matchup. When I saw the play live, I thought it was a forward pass. Unfortunately they did not show the replay (why would they?). If someone taped the game, I would appreciate if you could take a look to see if it was clearly forward, clearly backward, or tough to tell. I will be scanning stat changes this week as well. Thanks for starting this thread plymkr, I was thinking about doing the same thing (I would not have put the same "complaining" spin to it however).

Well, sorry. I was just trying to spice it up a little...

 

[Righetti]

 

[mad sweeney]

Truly the only real answer.

Truly the most overused and asinine icon on the board. Yes, the poster has a sob story involved, but that's not the point of his post. It's a legit question as to when NFL stats become finalized. But any time anyone posts anything that involves points, you got the short bussers with no real input and their silly little ptts icon. Very often, a thread is just a vent. But when it comes with a legit question just pretend for one post that you're not the smartest and funniest person on the board and leave the ptts at home. It's as stupid as "wow, are there any spots left in your league because if X happened there, your league must be full of guppies and I can take advantage.Use the ptts when the poster is simply crying about losing. Save your time when it's just unwarranted. In fact at this point we can probably take it out of the icon list since it is valueless by now with every thread about any player or any stat has not only someone posting it but you get a bunch of other guys who don't get it giving him the thumbs up. As to the OP's question. I don't know when the NFL is set, I believe I have seen stats changed as late as Thursday. Some of the leagues I am in set a date at which the stats become final.

 

[mad sweeney]

The -1yd play was a lateral, clearly passed backwards.

knew when it happened that it would cause a stir. the fact that he ended up on exactly 100 receiving yards just magnified it 10x

I looked on the DVR, but didn't start recording soon enough.It did go backwards eh?I can hope.

NFL.com and Sportsline are counting it as a rush for -1 yards...a lateral.

But it also says he had 10 catches for 100 yards in additon to the -1 yard run

 

[Islander]

The -1yd play was a lateral, clearly passed backwards.

knew when it happened that it would cause a stir. the fact that he ended up on exactly 100 receiving yards just magnified it 10x

I looked on the DVR, but didn't start recording soon enough.It did go backwards eh?I can hope.

NFL.com and Sportsline are counting it as a rush for -1 yards...a lateral.

But it also says he had 10 catches for 100 yards in additon to the -1 yard run

I would not be surprised to see a change to 11 catches 99 yds, no rushes.

 

[GDogg]

The -1yd play was a lateral, clearly passed backwards.

knew when it happened that it would cause a stir. the fact that he ended up on exactly 100 receiving yards just magnified it 10x

I looked on the DVR, but didn't start recording soon enough.It did go backwards eh?I can hope.

NFL.com and Sportsline are counting it as a rush for -1 yards...a lateral.

But it also says he had 10 catches for 100 yards in additon to the -1 yard run

That's because he had 10 catches for 100 yards.

 

[proninja]

Hey guys, just checking in to let you know that I won in two of three leagues this week, and was missing portis, walker, and calvin in the one I lost. I'll be sure to keep you guys updated! Thanks!

 

[GDogg]

The -1yd play was a lateral, clearly passed backwards.

knew when it happened that it would cause a stir. the fact that he ended up on exactly 100 receiving yards just magnified it 10x

I looked on the DVR, but didn't start recording soon enough.It did go backwards eh?I can hope.

NFL.com and Sportsline are counting it as a rush for -1 yards...a lateral.

But it also says he had 10 catches for 100 yards in additon to the -1 yard run

I would not be surprised to see a change to 11 catches 99 yds, no rushes.

I'm not sure where NFL.com and Sportsline get their statistics, but I had my matchup up on my computer when that play happened. At that point, he had 9 catches for 83 yards. When the play occurred, TJ's scoring changed to 10 catches for 82 yards. 3 minutes or so later, it changed back to 9 catches for 83 yards, and the -1 rushing yards popped up. Wherever NFL.com and Sportsline get their statistics from made the change already. I'd be shocked if it changes back.I just looked up the Elias Sports Bureau (official statistician of the NFL), and I haven't found individual game logs yet. It has TJ with 2 rushes for 2 yards, including a long of 3 and a -1 yard rush. So, it looks like the NFL's official scorer has TJ with 10 catches for 100 yards and 1 rush for -1 yard.

 

[Islander]

The -1yd play was a lateral, clearly passed backwards.

knew when it happened that it would cause a stir. the fact that he ended up on exactly 100 receiving yards just magnified it 10x

I looked on the DVR, but didn't start recording soon enough.It did go backwards eh?I can hope.

NFL.com and Sportsline are counting it as a rush for -1 yards...a lateral.

But it also says he had 10 catches for 100 yards in additon to the -1 yard run

I would not be surprised to see a change to 11 catches 99 yds, no rushes.

I'm not sure where NFL.com and Sportsline get their statistics, but I had my matchup up on my computer when that play happened. At that point, he had 9 catches for 83 yards. When the play occurred, TJ's scoring changed to 10 catches for 82 yards. 3 minutes or so later, it changed back to 9 catches for 83 yards, and the -1 rushing yards popped up. Wherever NFL.com and Sportsline get their statistics from made the change already. I'd be shocked if it changes back.I just looked up the Elias Sports Bureau (official statistician of the NFL), and I haven't found individual game logs yet. It has TJ with 2 rushes for 2 yards, including a long of 3 and a -1 yard rush. So, it looks like the NFL's official scorer has TJ with 10 catches for 100 yards and 1 rush for -1 yard.

??? In the gamebook he only has 1 rush for -1 yd. Not 2 rushes. So he had 11 touches total, whether it's 10 catches and one lateral, or 11 catches.

 

[GDogg]

The -1yd play was a lateral, clearly passed backwards.

knew when it happened that it would cause a stir. the fact that he ended up on exactly 100 receiving yards just magnified it 10x

I looked on the DVR, but didn't start recording soon enough.It did go backwards eh?

I can hope.

NFL.com and Sportsline are counting it as a rush for -1 yards...a lateral.

But it also says he had 10 catches for 100 yards in additon to the -1 yard run

I would not be surprised to see a change to 11 catches 99 yds, no rushes.

I'm not sure where NFL.com and Sportsline get their statistics, but I had my matchup up on my computer when that play happened. At that point, he had 9 catches for 83 yards. When the play occurred, TJ's scoring changed to 10 catches for 82 yards. 3 minutes or so later, it changed back to 9 catches for 83 yards, and the -1 rushing yards popped up. Wherever NFL.com and Sportsline get their statistics from made the change already. I'd be shocked if it changes back.

I just looked up the Elias Sports Bureau (official statistician of the NFL), and I haven't found individual game logs yet. It has TJ with 2 rushes for 2 yards, including a long of 3 and a -1 yard rush. So, it looks like the NFL's official scorer has TJ with 10 catches for 100 yards and 1 rush for -1 yard.

??? In the gamebook he only has 1 rush for -1 yd. Not 2 rushes. So he had 11 touches total, whether it's 10 catches and one lateral, or 11 catches.

I apologize for confusing you. He has 2 rushes for 2 yards on the season. That's why I said I couldn't find the individual game logs. I also stated that he has a long of 3 and a -1 yard rush. I then put it all together to point out that the official scorer had him down for 10 catches for 100 yards and 1 rush for -1 yard.

 

[Islander]

I apologize for confusing you. He has 2 rushes for 2 yards on the season. That's why I said I couldn't find the individual game logs. I also stated that he has a long of 3 and a -1 yard rush. I then put it all together to point out that the official scorer had him down for 10 catches for 100 yards and 1 rush for -1 yard.

Got it. I read your previous post too quickly!

 

[NJ]

I lost on the same deal, lost by 1.5 pts and my opponent got a 3 pt bonus when Housh hit the 100 yard mark on that last catch. I fell to 1-3 and immediately thought about this same play and actually went back on the DVR to look at it. It definitely looked like it went backwards for a lateral so I think the stats are correct.

Plus, correct me if I am wrong, but Housh got hit as soon as he caught it , he didn't run backwards and they spot the ball where his forward progress was stopped, not where he got pushed back to. So if they spot it where he first caught it and got hit, then it had to have been a lateral because they spotted it 1 yard behind the line of scrimmage? If it were a reception and not a lateral (i.e. the ball stayed in front of the original line of scrimmage), and they spotted it where he got hit, it would have been spotted at the line of scrimmage and it would have just been another catch for 0 yards and he still would have finished with 100 but 1 more catch no?

 

[Islander]

I lost on the same deal, lost by 1.5 pts and my opponent got a 3 pt bonus when Housh hit the 100 yard mark on that last catch. I fell to 1-3 and immediately thought about this same play and actually went back on the DVR to look at it. It definitely looked like it went backwards for a lateral so I think the stats are correct.Plus, correct me if I am wrong, but Housh got hit as soon as he caught it , he didn't run backwards and they spot the ball where his forward progress was stopped, not where he got pushed back to. So if they spot it where he first caught it and got hit, then it had to have been a lateral because they spotted it 1 yard behind the line of scrimmage? If it were a reception and not a lateral (i.e. the ball stayed in front of the original line of scrimmage), and they spotted it where he got hit, it would have been spotted at the line of scrimmage and it would have just been another catch for 0 yards and he still would have finished with 100 but 1 more catch no?

That would be true if Palmer was standing AT the line of scrimmage when he threw the ball. But Palmer was about one yard behind the LOS when he threw the ball, TJ caught it one yard behind the LOS too, so that's why it's very close as to whether it's a lateral or a forward pass.