PatsWillWin
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People that are also sick are sicko's that bet the over on Flacco 3.5 yards rushing.Raider Nation said:
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Where is the Ravens vs. Patriots thread? Oh, here it is (1 Viewer)
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bostonfred
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It seemed like there were massive, game changing penalties (or non calls) on every drive except those initial two Ravens td drives and the third quarter Patriots td. Part of that was the refs but a bigger part was both teams testing the refs all game.
I don't like the Ravens but tip my cap. Much respect for Flacco and forsett and both smith's coming back in the game and mosley (even with the gronk interference) suggs and dumervil playing well and almost the entire secondary (maybe not 38) playing over their heads all game. Well played and well coached, will surely not look forward to their next playoff matchup.
I don't like the Ravens but tip my cap. Much respect for Flacco and forsett and both smith's coming back in the game and mosley (even with the gronk interference) suggs and dumervil playing well and almost the entire secondary (maybe not 38) playing over their heads all game. Well played and well coached, will surely not look forward to their next playoff matchup.
ShamrockPride
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Would just like to throw in that Harbaugh is one of the league's true coaching treasures. Him and Flacco will be roaming the playoffs for a long time to come.
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I was raving about Harbaugh in the game thread, but I have to admit - with his whining about the Pats running "illegal formations" I have lost a lot of respect for him. The Pats did nothing illegal at all. He got caught with his pants down, didn't know the rule book, and instead of tipping his cap like he should have done he took the low road and charged his opponents with cheating. Classless, childish, and kind of whimpy.
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Uruk-Hai
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Manster
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
clear he didnt know the rule. I thought when someone reports an eligible/ineligible that the refs say it on the mics? I know I have herd it before "number 78 is eligilbe" at games. Not sure if thats the rule any more
NFL: Patriots ran 'legal' formations vs. Ravens
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24954397/nfl-patriots-ran-legal-formations-vs-ravens
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24954397/nfl-patriots-ran-legal-formations-vs-ravens
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
yes, it's announced and the refs tell the ravens
ravens just didn't adjust, didn't call t/o, and didn't know how to defend it
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
yeah, 20 yrs from now I wonder if we'll be talking about all his stats relative to the greats like we are with belichick today
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
in the first half they were running over the pats, but I think pats adjusted in the 2nd half and did a much better job against the run and held the ravens to 10 -- check the stats on that.Niles Standish said:Seemed to me the Ravens couldn't stop Brady. And the Pats couldn't stop anyone. I can't understand why the Ravens stopped running. They seemed to be getting 7 or 8 a play. Then again maybe the Pats made an adjustment to that.LongDuckDong said:As big a Patriots homer as there is, and I was having a full blown heart attack all game. I thought the Ravens dominated both sides of the ball and the Ravens clearly outplayed the Patriots. We disagree.fred_1_15301 said:Trolling or delusional?ETA. And I am a Pats HATER DAMMIT.LongDuckDong said:
was it 21-10 in the 2nd half isn't so bad against a team that was supposedly 'dominating' us on both sides of the ball, and badly outplaying us.
Not as much as Harbaugh. Even a guy on the chain gang called him a crybaby during the Steeler game. Guy never stops with the tears during the game.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Just saw this on Peter King's MMQB column.
The guy was even worse than I thought.
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/12/nfl-playoffs-cowboys-packers-dez-bryant-replay-catch-peyton-manning-retirement/7/
I think its pretty obvious the Ravens will target CB in free agency and the draft.
They lost by 4 points and that guy alone gave up 2 TDs and over 220 passing yards. Makes ya think they would have won with just a 'capable' starting corner.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
You being a Pats homer, I'm going to assume you are being sarcastic. So tough luck for you, since you're gonna be waiting "20 years from now" you'll have to wait and see. You don't get to 5 super bowls in the 7 years Harbaugh has been there. Not how it works.
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The loss of Jimmy Smith haunted the Ravens all season long, it was inevitable that it bit them hard in the playoffs.
Niles Standish
Footballguy
15/19 224 2 TDs against Melvin (pretty great).
19/32 194 yds 1 TD 1 INT against the rest (pretty average).
Shows what difference a good CB makes. Or at least league average.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
It was crystal clear to me while watching the game how much of a negative impact that #38 was having on the Ravens pass-D. No one else in the thread even mentioned him so I was wondering if someone else would have picked up how much he hurt them and both PFF and Peter King and I'm sure tons of others outside of the game thread saw the same thing.
One weak link and Tom Brady just savaged the kid. It was brutal.
Ned
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I think you're just being cynical. I didn't read his post with any sarcasm at all.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
lol I wasn't being sarcastic
I'm a fan of good coaching in every sport, and I'll always stick up for a coach over players
you don't win without good coaching
The_Man
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Hat tip to the Patriots for one of the most brilliant offensive game plans I have ever seen. Three things in particular really, really impressed me:
1. No handoffs in the second half. The Patriots obviously couldn't run vs. the Ravens. So they just dumped it. Why waste a valuable down and Brady passing opportunity on a lost play. Just throw every play. And yet nobody ever tries it. They're just too hung up in the old school mindset of "you have to establish the run."
2. Abuse Melvin. He was literally the Ravens' 5th or 6th string CB (Jimmy Smith, Asa Jackson, Ross, Gorer, probably 1 or 2 others I'm forgetting). He was on a practice squad last month. It's not the guy's fault, but he had no business being in a Divisional Playoff game. The Pats could have essentially lined up every play and just said, we're throwing at #38. Why not? On the playground, or in high school, if there's one kid who's such a spaz that he shouldn't really be in the game, that's who you target every play. Again, credit the Patriots for abandoning what didn't work and for flogging to death what did work.
3. Trick plays. You know Belichick had those in a special "In case of emergency, open" section of the playbook. He might have been holding onto those for a number of years - both the double pass and the ineligible/eligible receiver. And then he deployed them when he needed them most.
The funny thing is, the first 2 "brilliant" coaching moves I credit the Pats for are the kind of decisions that seem simplistic even in a pick-up game. But nobody else has the guys/brains to do them, time after time after time.
Not sure what happened to Suggs and Dumervill. The Ravens needed them to come up big and they totally disappeared. I felt at the time that they were playing for the AFC Championship on Saturday, feel that way even more now. Those were clearly the top 2 teams in the conference, come playoff time.
1. No handoffs in the second half. The Patriots obviously couldn't run vs. the Ravens. So they just dumped it. Why waste a valuable down and Brady passing opportunity on a lost play. Just throw every play. And yet nobody ever tries it. They're just too hung up in the old school mindset of "you have to establish the run."
2. Abuse Melvin. He was literally the Ravens' 5th or 6th string CB (Jimmy Smith, Asa Jackson, Ross, Gorer, probably 1 or 2 others I'm forgetting). He was on a practice squad last month. It's not the guy's fault, but he had no business being in a Divisional Playoff game. The Pats could have essentially lined up every play and just said, we're throwing at #38. Why not? On the playground, or in high school, if there's one kid who's such a spaz that he shouldn't really be in the game, that's who you target every play. Again, credit the Patriots for abandoning what didn't work and for flogging to death what did work.
3. Trick plays. You know Belichick had those in a special "In case of emergency, open" section of the playbook. He might have been holding onto those for a number of years - both the double pass and the ineligible/eligible receiver. And then he deployed them when he needed them most.
The funny thing is, the first 2 "brilliant" coaching moves I credit the Pats for are the kind of decisions that seem simplistic even in a pick-up game. But nobody else has the guys/brains to do them, time after time after time.
Not sure what happened to Suggs and Dumervill. The Ravens needed them to come up big and they totally disappeared. I felt at the time that they were playing for the AFC Championship on Saturday, feel that way even more now. Those were clearly the top 2 teams in the conference, come playoff time.
Road Warriors
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As for Suggs & Dumervil, what I recall from a fairly hazy recollection of the second half, was the quickness that the ball was out. I specifically recall the Edelman catch between the knees where the ball had to have been 75% of the way there when he turned. When your timing based passing is clicking like that, it's almost indefensible.
The first half running attempts left the Pats in several and-long situations, and the rush was getting home, for hits if not sacks. The second half the speed with which the ball was out of Brady's hands was amazing. Really great adjustments to what the Ravens were doing.
Kool-Aid Larry
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En route to the bus from the locker room, apparently [steve] Smith tried to fight Wiggins because Jermaine called him a bully on the radio a while back. LaFell, Matt Chatham and security intervened to break it up.Wiggins was there with his wife and two kids.
