which qb has been the most impressive? (4 Viewers)

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Montana won a Super Bowl without Rice. Brady lost one with Moss and Welker.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Then Manning is better than Brady? People keep making ridiculous comparisons to go along with your ridiculous logic...

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Its funny that last week, the brady haters justified saying rodgers was playing better despite brady winning the unanimous league mvp last year and being nfl player of the week in both week one and two, because of rodgers recent superbowl mvp, but many of those same people have been posting for years how brady was overrated because of his supperbowls. Now this week, after brady throws interceptions, the ints are the most important thing, but these same people didn't feel that way during bradys mvp season when he set the int record. With brady putting up the best three week yardage totals not just for the first three weeks, but for any three weeks in any season ever, and on pace for morethan four miles of passing, when the record is just under three miles, theres a good chance brady will win another mvp after setting the yardage record, and own the yardage, td, and int records, holding three mvps and 2 superbowl mvps, a 16 win season, and countless other individual and team records. Yet these same people will still try to avoid saying what anyone can clearly see... tom brady is the greatest qb of all time.

Brady is definitely one of the greatest QBs of all-time, but at your usual over the top assessment of Brady. Please never change.

If brady retires with three superbowl rings, three league mvps, a perfect season, and the triple crown of yardage, td and int records, what argument will be left against him being the best of all time? Career totals in the counting stats? A fourth mvp or fourth ring? Seriously, what's left?

Whats funny in all this is i hate Brady and am a Brees and Stafford fan, who can have an argument made for this debate...but I choose to defend Brady, must be because I know nothing about football and am just being bias.

I'm a Bradford and Stafford fan.. I'm not exactly sure how that statement about liking other players proves anything. I dont like Rodgers anymore than Brady. I'm just stating facts

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, "It goes to show bias" for 400, Alex.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Then Manning is better than Brady? People keep making ridiculous comparisons to go along with your ridiculous logic...

Seriously, rediculous logic?MANNING HAS NOT EVEN PLAYED IN THE FIRST 3 WEEKS! So he, Orton, and Morino should not even be discussed in this thread.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

he leads in the 2 most important catagories.

aren't wins an important category?

Yes, but he dont have total control over that? Unless I missed the part where defense is no longer involved in a football game.ETA: or special teams, or coaching, or oline play, or a running game...lots goes into wins and losses, not just QB play.

so a QB throwing a pick 6 to lose the game is blameless?not to mention the Bills scored 24 points directly off Brady INTs in the game.

Yes Brady has lost a game, he is 2-1...they are in major trouble, so I understand the reason to hate on brady. ...but were any of those passes tipped? And then since we want to talk tiltes Brady 3 - Rodgers 1Next cheap lame argument for anyone with football insight to actually attempt to pretend that Brady is not the best QB in the NFL?

can you stay on topic?thread is talking about the first 3 weeks of the season. Brady has been amazing but made some uncharacteristic mistakes this week that wound up costing his team the game. Obviously they are going to be fine, but to say the team lost the game and he had no part in it is disingenous. Obviously, he was the main reason they put up all those points as well. Bills got some bounces and made some great plays. It happens.The Brady/Montana stuff was in response to Fred arguing for Brady as the GOAT. I never mentioned Rodgers. He's not in the top 20 of that conversation.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Then Manning is better than Brady? People keep making ridiculous comparisons to go along with your ridiculous logic...

Seriously, rediculous logic?MANNING HAS NOT EVEN PLAYED IN THE FIRST 3 WEEKS! So he, Orton, and Morino should not even be discussed in this thread.

Yes, ridiculous logic. I dont feel like explaining it. There is two pages of explanation for you if you want to go look back.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKG07305CBs LOL

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Montana won a Super Bowl without Rice. Brady lost one with Moss and Welker.

My point is its a team effort.This thread in no was is talking about the most impressive in 3 weeks if all these other players caeer stats are being brought up.Thanks for proving my point in a weird way that its a team effort.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Then Manning is better than Brady? People keep making ridiculous comparisons to go along with your ridiculous logic...

Seriously, rediculous logic?MANNING HAS NOT EVEN PLAYED IN THE FIRST 3 WEEKS! So he, Orton, and Morino should not even be discussed in this thread.

Yes, ridiculous logic. I dont feel like explaining it. There is two pages of explanation for you if you want to go look back.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKG07305CBs LOL

Your right, but they only need to read your name to see your bias.

 

[Lester Long]

Its funny that last week, the brady haters justified saying rodgers was playing better despite brady winning the unanimous league mvp last year and being nfl player of the week in both week one and two, because of rodgers recent superbowl mvp, but many of those same people have been posting for years how brady was overrated because of his supperbowls. Now this week, after brady throws interceptions, the ints are the most important thing, but these same people didn't feel that way during bradys mvp season when he set the int record. With brady putting up the best three week yardage totals not just for the first three weeks, but for any three weeks in any season ever, and on pace for morethan four miles of passing, when the record is just under three miles, theres a good chance brady will win another mvp after setting the yardage record, and own the yardage, td, and int records, holding three mvps and 2 superbowl mvps, a 16 win season, and countless other individual and team records. Yet these same people will still try to avoid saying what anyone can clearly see... tom brady is the greatest qb of all time.

Brady is definitely one of the greatest QBs of all-time, but at your usual over the top assessment of Brady. Please never change.

If brady retires with three superbowl rings, three league mvps, a perfect season, and the triple crown of yardage, td and int records, what argument will be left against him being the best of all time? Career totals in the counting stats? A fourth mvp or fourth ring? Seriously, what's left?

Whats funny in all this is i hate Brady and am a Brees and Stafford fan, who can have an argument made for this debate...but I choose to defend Brady, must be because I know nothing about football and am just being bias.

I'm a Bradford and Stafford fan.. I'm not exactly sure how that statement about liking other players proves anything. I dont like Rodgers anymore than Brady. I'm just stating facts

Yeah I actually cannot stand Rodgers or the Packers for that matter as they have kicked my Lions butts for years but I pride myself on being objective. it is why I am not overhyping Stafford like many of my fellow Lions fans. I have been watching and the difference between Stafford and Bradford is Calvin Johnson. most QB's are overhyped anyways. Manning is the only QB I ever seen leave his team and the team totally fall apart. the funny part is I love Brady being I watched him at Michigan and watched him succeed when not many ever gave him a achance in the pros.plus I like the Patriots as I don't think there has ever been a coach as good as Belichek and I just love how they do it with less talent. but the Pats proved they could be a 11 win team without Brady and the Colts are proving Manning was the only thing keeping them out of the cellar. to me it is common sense and all you have to do is what to pay attention to it. Manning is/was special as he was just not a QB but a offensive coordinator too.

 

[sho nuff]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Montana without Rice would be a 2 Time Super Bowl winner and 2 Time Super Bowl MVP (81 and 84)...also got to the NFC Championship game in 1983.Rice did not come around til 1985.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Then Manning is better than Brady? People keep making ridiculous comparisons to go along with your ridiculous logic...

Seriously, rediculous logic?MANNING HAS NOT EVEN PLAYED IN THE FIRST 3 WEEKS! So he, Orton, and Morino should not even be discussed in this thread.

Yes, ridiculous logic. I dont feel like explaining it. There is two pages of explanation for you if you want to go look back.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKG07305CBs LOL

I see you, and I raise you...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuNvxH5kSKU

 

[sho nuff]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Montana won a Super Bowl without Rice. Brady lost one with Moss and Welker.

2 actually.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

he leads in the 2 most important catagories.

aren't wins an important category?

Yes, but he dont have total control over that? Unless I missed the part where defense is no longer involved in a football game.ETA: or special teams, or coaching, or oline play, or a running game...lots goes into wins and losses, not just QB play.

so a QB throwing a pick 6 to lose the game is blameless?not to mention the Bills scored 24 points directly off Brady INTs in the game.

Yes Brady has lost a game, he is 2-1...they are in major trouble, so I understand the reason to hate on brady. ...but were any of those passes tipped?

And then since we want to talk tiltes Brady 3 - Rodgers 1



Next cheap lame argument for anyone with football insight to actually attempt to pretend that Brady is not the best QB in the NFL?

This thread is about the most impressive. Not best.

 

[cvnpoka]

amish rifle

Who is the amish rifle?

http://twitter.com/#!/AmishRifle

 

[Dr. Awesome]

And at dismissing the interceptions by saying some were tipped.



Great work trolling Cuz. You're going to need a bigger boat.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Montana without Rice would be a 2 Time Super Bowl winner and 2 Time Super Bowl MVP (81 and 84)...also got to the NFC Championship game in 1983.Rice did not come around til 1985.

Niners also won without Montana.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Montana won a Super Bowl without Rice. Brady lost one with Moss and Welker.

2 actually.

even better.Brady obviously won a Bowl or two without great talent around him as well, but those felt more like classic Belichick wins (to me anyway). May have cemented his spot at the top if that miracle play didn't happen vs the Giants.If he keeps doing what he's doing and they win another one, he's obviously right up at the top of the list. Amazing player. Pats fans are lucky to have him and I can understand why they'd argue for him.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

And at dismissing the interceptions by saying some were tipped. Great work trolling Cuz. You're going to need a bigger boat.

Maybe you are taking too much stock in the picks.

 

[sho nuff]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Montana without Rice would be a 2 Time Super Bowl winner and 2 Time Super Bowl MVP (81 and 84)...also got to the NFC Championship game in 1983.Rice did not come around til 1985.

Niners also won without Montana.

Great...but you asked what he would be without Rice...he would be a 2 time Super Bowl MVP.So...your argument was trying to take Rice out that Montana would be nothing...you were wrong.Its ok to admit it.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

he leads in the 2 most important catagories.

aren't wins an important category?

Yes, but he dont have total control over that? Unless I missed the part where defense is no longer involved in a football game.ETA: or special teams, or coaching, or oline play, or a running game...lots goes into wins and losses, not just QB play.

so a QB throwing a pick 6 to lose the game is blameless?not to mention the Bills scored 24 points directly off Brady INTs in the game.

Yes Brady has lost a game, he is 2-1...they are in major trouble, so I understand the reason to hate on brady. ...but were any of those passes tipped?

And then since we want to talk tiltes Brady 3 - Rodgers 1



Next cheap lame argument for anyone with football insight to actually attempt to pretend that Brady is not the best QB in the NFL?

This thread is about the most impressive. Not best.

Yes, thanks for catching that part...to bad the most impressive was thrown out a long time ago in this thread.Are you really impressed last years SB winning QB has won 3 games, and then using that as the weight as to why he is the most impressive after he has less yards and TDs right now, then Brady started off yesterday with.

but yup, lets talk about impressive.

 

[B-Deep]

Manning is the most impressive QB through 3 weeks, without him that team is a laughing stock

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Montana without Rice would be a 2 Time Super Bowl winner and 2 Time Super Bowl MVP (81 and 84)...also got to the NFC Championship game in 1983.Rice did not come around til 1985.

Niners also won without Montana.

Great...but you asked what he would be without Rice...he would be a 2 time Super Bowl MVP.So...your argument was trying to take Rice out that Montana would be nothing...you were wrong.Its ok to admit it.

I may have worded it wrong, but no, my point was how people can win with different players.

 

[elshagon]

All this analysis of super bowl performance, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Manning...

We're only talking about the first 3 games of THIS season!

Who is Most Impressive during the first 3 games?

If it were the first 2 games you could argue for Brady, but his game #3 wasn't so good. Sure he had yardage and scores but he also threw 4 INT's including a pick 6. So you must throw him out of any argument for most impressive for the first 3 weeks.

I'll take the guy who is 3-0, completing more than 70% of his passes and has only thrown one INT....

Rogers

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Then Manning is better than Brady? People keep making ridiculous comparisons to go along with your ridiculous logic...

Seriously, rediculous logic?MANNING HAS NOT EVEN PLAYED IN THE FIRST 3 WEEKS! So he, Orton, and Morino should not even be discussed in this thread.

Yes, ridiculous logic. I dont feel like explaining it. There is two pages of explanation for you if you want to go look back.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKG07305CBs LOL

Your right, but they only need to read your name to see your bias.

WISC= Wisconsin Badgers ATL= Atlanta Braves STL= Saint Louis Rams MIA= MIami Heatplease go check the Sam Bradford thread I started or the countless rams threads I posted in. My love for Donnie Avery was disgusting...

 

[Dr. Awesome]

And at dismissing the interceptions by saying some were tipped. Great work trolling Cuz. You're going to need a bigger boat.

Maybe you are taking too much stock in the picks.

You're right. When we're talking about most impressive quarterback we should not include turning the ball over.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

amish rifle

Who is the amish rifle?

http://twitter.com/#!/AmishRifle

I officially change my vote to Ryan Fitzpatrick ....Amish rifle nickname = fantasy championshipshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg&ob=av2eWhoa! I gotta cut it out with these links

 

[Dr. Awesome]

he leads in the 2 most important catagories.

aren't wins an important category?

Yes, but he dont have total control over that? Unless I missed the part where defense is no longer involved in a football game.ETA: or special teams, or coaching, or oline play, or a running game...lots goes into wins and losses, not just QB play.

so a QB throwing a pick 6 to lose the game is blameless?not to mention the Bills scored 24 points directly off Brady INTs in the game.

Yes Brady has lost a game, he is 2-1...they are in major trouble, so I understand the reason to hate on brady. ...but were any of those passes tipped?

And then since we want to talk tiltes Brady 3 - Rodgers 1



Next cheap lame argument for anyone with football insight to actually attempt to pretend that Brady is not the best QB in the NFL?

This thread is about the most impressive. Not best.

Yes, thanks for catching that part...to bad the most impressive was thrown out a long time ago in this thread.

Are you really impressed last years SB winning QB has won 3 games, and then using that as the weight as to why he is the most impressive after he has less yards and TDs right now, then Brady started off yesterday with.

but yup, lets talk about impressive.

My pick for most impressive was not Rodgers. HTH

 

[sho nuff]

Yes, thanks for catching that part...to bad the most impressive was thrown out a long time ago in this thread.Are you really impressed last years SB winning QB has won 3 games, and then using that as the weight as to why he is the most impressive after he has less yards and TDs right now, then Brady started off yesterday with.but yup, lets talk about impressive.

I think a case can be made with both...but you seem intent on only including yards and TDs in this calculation for some reason.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Brady looks like a good candidate for #2 all time. Montana never lost a Super Bowl.

A total team effort defines if one player is great?How would Montana be without Rice? We seen what Brady can do without Moss.Team effort in wins and Losses, not always on one players shoulders.

Then Manning is better than Brady? People keep making ridiculous comparisons to go along with your ridiculous logic...

Seriously, rediculous logic?MANNING HAS NOT EVEN PLAYED IN THE FIRST 3 WEEKS! So he, Orton, and Morino should not even be discussed in this thread.

Yes, ridiculous logic. I dont feel like explaining it. There is two pages of explanation for you if you want to go look back.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKG07305CBs LOL

I see you, and I raise you...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuNvxH5kSKU

hahahahahha touche... All aboard the Amish Rifle train though!!

 

[sho nuff]

I may have worded it wrong, but no, my point was how people can win with different players.

Worded it wrong...Where would Montana be without Rice is a foolish thing to say no matter how you meant it worded...I doubt you even realized he won 2 super bowls before Rice was ever drafted.

 

[sho nuff]

WISC= Wisconsin Badgers ATL= Atlanta Braves STL= Saint Louis Rams MIA= MIami Heatplease go check the Sam Bradford thread I started or the countless rams threads I posted in. My love for Donnie Avery was disgusting...

Without too much hijack...how in the world do you end up being a fan of those 4 teams?

 

[Pipes]

All this analysis of super bowl performance, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Manning...We're only talking about the first 3 games of THIS season!Who is Most Impressive during the first 3 games?If it were the first 2 games you could argue for Brady, but his game #3 wasn't so good. Sure he had yardage and scores but he also threw 4 INT's including a pick 6. So you must throw him out of any argument for most impressive for the first 3 weeks.I'll take the guy who is 3-0, completing more than 70% of his passes and has only thrown one INT....Rogers

The attention span of the shark pool is that of an 8 year old with adhd.

 

[adrenaline]

Tom Brady - His performance yesterday takes him out of this discussion.

Drew Brees - I must admit while I was watching the Packers/Saints game I couldn't help thinking what Brees might be able to do with better weapons. It is what it is though, we have 3 QBs with perfect records left.

Cam Newton - Huh?

Philip Rivers - I guess he has the name to be on this list, just not the numbers.

Matthew Stafford - Finally, on to deserving candidates. I have that awful feeling I'm going to regret trading Stafford for Vick before the season for many years. Definitely a guy who has a shot at this by the end of the year.

Aaron Rodgers - Who else am I going to pick? 3-0, 1 int, 120+ rating & he has that awesome championship belt.

Ryan Fitzpatrick - Definitely deserves to be in this conversation. It's the Bills, he can play well every week, as an owner I will be afraid he's going regress the next week every week.

 

[ATC1]

My stats got passed over, but I have to give it up to Matt Hasslebeck. 1st year with a new team, and both he and the Titans look better than last year without the help of CJ3.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

WISC= Wisconsin Badgers ATL= Atlanta Braves STL= Saint Louis Rams MIA= MIami Heatplease go check the Sam Bradford thread I started or the countless rams threads I posted in. My love for Donnie Avery was disgusting...

Without too much hijack...how in the world do you end up being a fan of those 4 teams?

Lol because when I was young (8 years old in 1998). I chose all the teams that were the coolest. NBA on NBC with Alonzo Mourning and Tim Hardaway? how could I resist. Wisconsin had Ron Dayne, The braves were on TBS. The Rams(pre greatest show on turf) because I liked orlando pace lol. so basically marketing does me in. I also grew up in western mass and have lived in constant misery of listening to Pats , Celts, Sox and Bruins fans brag till the end of time about there teams. The golden age of new england sports has beaten me down lol

 

[cubbie5150]

I own Brady (& love it), but Rodgers to me is the most in command at his position. Dude can flat-out sling it all day long. He's precise & has weapons all over the place.

 

[sho nuff]

WISC= Wisconsin Badgers ATL= Atlanta Braves STL= Saint Louis Rams MIA= MIami Heatplease go check the Sam Bradford thread I started or the countless rams threads I posted in. My love for Donnie Avery was disgusting...

Without too much hijack...how in the world do you end up being a fan of those 4 teams?

Lol because when I was young (8 years old in 1998). I chose all the teams that were the coolest. NBA on NBC with Alonzo Mourning and Tim Hardaway? how could I resist. Wisconsin had Ron Dayne, The braves were on TBS. The Rams(pre greatest show on turf) because I liked orlando pace lol. so basically marketing does me in. I also grew up in western mass and have lived in constant misery of listening to Pats , Celts, Sox and Bruins fans brag till the end of time about there teams. The golden age of new england sports has beaten me down lol

Interesting...the wisconsin part was the big puzzler...not too many Badger fans that are not either living there or from there...and most of them are Packer fans too.

 

[MDSkinner]

Part of being impressive, to me, is the expectation going in. Rodgers and Brady have certainly been amazing this year, but that was expected coming in. Brady's first two games exceeded those expectations by a lot but this last week and those picks brought him back to meeting expectations over those weeks. Rodgers has been virtually flawless but not put up the obscene numbers of Brady. Both could work here.

That said, for me the Amish Rifle is the most impressive simply because it was completely unexpected that he would play like this and be able to lead comebacks like this against what appear to be good teams (and then totally destroy a terrible team). He would be my vote.

 

[fred_1_15301]

What's funny is the Patriots insistence of throwing, throwing, throwing all day cost them yesterday. They probably could have ran the ball a lot more in the second half yesterday and won the game, but they are so excited about setting records and racking up yardage that that attitude got the best of them, as it resulted in 4 picks and a blown 21-point lead to the Buffalo Bills. Granted, that attitude often works to their advantage (see: Miami week 1), but yesterday it worked against them.

I'll take Aaron Rodgers throwing for only 300 yards a week, playing relatively error-free football, and winning every week.

Exactly.

A team gets the win, but this is what QB is more impressive... wins are a product of the defense too, brady dont give up points....oh wait, wait, he threw 4 ints, cut him.544 posts in 13 days since being on FBGs? Is this the majority of what your posts look like?

You just always have to throw in a personal attack. Now you understand why you're considered a troll? Go ahead and attack me now........

 

[Army Eye]

Stats are one thing, but , the QB who is impressing me the most watching them, the guy who is doing the most with the least, the guy who is consistently making the toughest throws - is Drew Brees

 

[JuSt CuZ]

What's funny is the Patriots insistence of throwing, throwing, throwing all day cost them yesterday. They probably could have ran the ball a lot more in the second half yesterday and won the game, but they are so excited about setting records and racking up yardage that that attitude got the best of them, as it resulted in 4 picks and a blown 21-point lead to the Buffalo Bills. Granted, that attitude often works to their advantage (see: Miami week 1), but yesterday it worked against them.

I'll take Aaron Rodgers throwing for only 300 yards a week, playing relatively error-free football, and winning every week.

Exactly.

A team gets the win, but this is what QB is more impressive... wins are a product of the defense too, brady dont give up points....oh wait, wait, he threw 4 ints, cut him.544 posts in 13 days since being on FBGs? Is this the majority of what your posts look like?

You just always have to throw in a personal attack. Now you understand why you're considered a troll? Go ahead and attack me now........

Yup talking about his public posts on a public forum is a personal attack.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Tom Brady - His performance yesterday takes him out of this discussion.

Drew Brees - I must admit while I was watching the Packers/Saints game I couldn't help thinking what Brees might be able to do with better weapons. It is what it is though, we have 3 QBs with perfect records left.

Cam Newton - Huh?

Philip Rivers - I guess he has the name to be on this list, just not the numbers.

Matthew Stafford - Finally, on to deserving candidates. I have that awful feeling I'm going to regret trading Stafford for Vick before the season for many years. Definitely a guy who has a shot at this by the end of the year.

Aaron Rodgers - Who else am I going to pick? 3-0, 1 int, 120+ rating & he has that awesome championship belt.

Ryan Fitzpatrick - Definitely deserves to be in this conversation. It's the Bills, he can play well every week, as an owner I will be afraid he's going regress the next week every week.

This is my point about Bias.Were you not expecting him to be 3-0?

how are you impressed?

How can you think Brady would throw for a record breaking amount of yards while still leading the league in TDs, that is not the norm.

 

[Lester Long]

What's funny is the Patriots insistence of throwing, throwing, throwing all day cost them yesterday. They probably could have ran the ball a lot more in the second half yesterday and won the game, but they are so excited about setting records and racking up yardage that that attitude got the best of them, as it resulted in 4 picks and a blown 21-point lead to the Buffalo Bills. Granted, that attitude often works to their advantage (see: Miami week 1), but yesterday it worked against them.

I'll take Aaron Rodgers throwing for only 300 yards a week, playing relatively error-free football, and winning every week.

Exactly.

A team gets the win, but this is what QB is more impressive... wins are a product of the defense too, brady dont give up points....oh wait, wait, he threw 4 ints, cut him.544 posts in 13 days since being on FBGs? Is this the majority of what your posts look like?

You just always have to throw in a personal attack. Now you understand why you're considered a troll? Go ahead and attack me now........

Yup talking about his public posts on a public forum is a personal attack.

I would not call them a personal attack. although when reading your posts and then seeing you write something like this it is kinda funny.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Were you not expecting him to be 3-0?how are you impressed?How can you think Brady would throw for a record breaking amount of yards while still leading the league in TDs, that is not the norm.

he threw for 50 TDs not too long ago.Pats defense has been awful, which is why Brady has had to throw as much.If Brady was playing with the Packers D or against a tougher schedule, he wouldn't have nearly the same numbers.Why argue that it's a team game in some posts and then ignore the team factors when it suits the point you are trying to make?

 

[JuSt CuZ]

What's funny is the Patriots insistence of throwing, throwing, throwing all day cost them yesterday. They probably could have ran the ball a lot more in the second half yesterday and won the game, but they are so excited about setting records and racking up yardage that that attitude got the best of them, as it resulted in 4 picks and a blown 21-point lead to the Buffalo Bills. Granted, that attitude often works to their advantage (see: Miami week 1), but yesterday it worked against them.

I'll take Aaron Rodgers throwing for only 300 yards a week, playing relatively error-free football, and winning every week.

Exactly.

A team gets the win, but this is what QB is more impressive... wins are a product of the defense too, brady dont give up points....oh wait, wait, he threw 4 ints, cut him.544 posts in 13 days since being on FBGs? Is this the majority of what your posts look like?

You just always have to throw in a personal attack. Now you understand why you're considered a troll? Go ahead and attack me now........

Yup talking about his public posts on a public forum is a personal attack.

I would not call them a personal attack. although when reading your posts and then seeing you write something like this it is kinda funny.

LOLNothings personal, its all football.

:Brady:

 

[Lester Long]

Tom Brady - His performance yesterday takes him out of this discussion.

Drew Brees - I must admit while I was watching the Packers/Saints game I couldn't help thinking what Brees might be able to do with better weapons. It is what it is though, we have 3 QBs with perfect records left.

Cam Newton - Huh?

Philip Rivers - I guess he has the name to be on this list, just not the numbers.

Matthew Stafford - Finally, on to deserving candidates. I have that awful feeling I'm going to regret trading Stafford for Vick before the season for many years. Definitely a guy who has a shot at this by the end of the year.

Aaron Rodgers - Who else am I going to pick? 3-0, 1 int, 120+ rating & he has that awesome championship belt.

Ryan Fitzpatrick - Definitely deserves to be in this conversation. It's the Bills, he can play well every week, as an owner I will be afraid he's going regress the next week every week.

This is my point about Bias.Were you not expecting him to be 3-0?

how are you impressed?

How can you think Brady would throw for a record breaking amount of yards while still leading the league in TDs, that is not the norm.

See it is your misuse of the word impressive that is getting you here. if I say the most impressive QB in the league is Brady, I am saying the best QB in the league is Brady.otherwise he is not the most impressive.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Tom Brady - His performance yesterday takes him out of this discussion.

Drew Brees - I must admit while I was watching the Packers/Saints game I couldn't help thinking what Brees might be able to do with better weapons. It is what it is though, we have 3 QBs with perfect records left.

Cam Newton - Huh?

Philip Rivers - I guess he has the name to be on this list, just not the numbers.

Matthew Stafford - Finally, on to deserving candidates. I have that awful feeling I'm going to regret trading Stafford for Vick before the season for many years. Definitely a guy who has a shot at this by the end of the year.

Aaron Rodgers - Who else am I going to pick? 3-0, 1 int, 120+ rating & he has that awesome championship belt.

Ryan Fitzpatrick - Definitely deserves to be in this conversation. It's the Bills, he can play well every week, as an owner I will be afraid he's going regress the next week every week.

This is my point about Bias.Were you not expecting him to be 3-0?

how are you impressed?

How can you think Brady would throw for a record breaking amount of yards while still leading the league in TDs, that is not the norm.

See it is your misuse of the word impressive that is getting you here. if I say the most impressive QB in the league is Brady, I am saying the best QB in the league is Brady.otherwise he is not the most impressive.

You say tomato, I say tomato.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Were you not expecting him to be 3-0?

how are you impressed?

How can you think Brady would throw for a record breaking amount of yards while still leading the league in TDs, that is not the norm.

he threw for 50 TDs not too long ago.Pats defense has been awful, which is why Brady has had to throw as much.

If Brady was playing with the Packers D or against a tougher schedule, he wouldn't have nearly the same numbers.

Why argue that it's a team game in some posts and then ignore the team factors when it suits the point you are trying to make?

The bolded is just an opinion, nothing to really back up any argument. "What ifs"? really?And as you can see to how often I respond, I ignore nothing.

ETA: so do you expect him to throw 50 every year, or break yardage records every 3 weeks?

 

[Lester Long]

Tom Brady - His performance yesterday takes him out of this discussion.

Drew Brees - I must admit while I was watching the Packers/Saints game I couldn't help thinking what Brees might be able to do with better weapons. It is what it is though, we have 3 QBs with perfect records left.

Cam Newton - Huh?

Philip Rivers - I guess he has the name to be on this list, just not the numbers.

Matthew Stafford - Finally, on to deserving candidates. I have that awful feeling I'm going to regret trading Stafford for Vick before the season for many years. Definitely a guy who has a shot at this by the end of the year.

Aaron Rodgers - Who else am I going to pick? 3-0, 1 int, 120+ rating & he has that awesome championship belt.

Ryan Fitzpatrick - Definitely deserves to be in this conversation. It's the Bills, he can play well every week, as an owner I will be afraid he's going regress the next week every week.

This is my point about Bias.Were you not expecting him to be 3-0?

how are you impressed?

How can you think Brady would throw for a record breaking amount of yards while still leading the league in TDs, that is not the norm.

See it is your misuse of the word impressive that is getting you here. if I say the most impressive QB in the league is Brady, I am saying the best QB in the league is Brady.otherwise he is not the most impressive.

You say tomato, I say tomato.

Nevermind homey.

 

[elshagon]

This is my point about Bias.Were you not expecting him to be 3-0?how are you impressed?How can you think Brady would throw for a record breaking amount of yards while still leading the league in TDs, that is not the norm.

Yes Brady's yardage and TD numbers are impressive, but his INT numbers are not impressive at all. He was a big part of the reason they lost in week 3. I could care less if a guy sets a TD and yardage record and throws a ton of INT's and can't get his team to the playoffs. Not saying the Pats won't make the playoffs, but my point is the most important thing a QB does is win games. Sure there's teams that have won with great defense and little help from the QB, but here we're talking about the best QB's in the league and the one who impresses me most is the one who not only puts up great numbers but is winning the games. That QB is Rogers with Brees a close second followed by Brady. This is just thru week 3, things may change, but I'm a Raider fan and could care less for all you Packers and Patriots homers who base arguments on team allegiance.