Which RB not in the top 10 RB rankings among FBG consensus (1 Viewer)

[Jeff Haseley]

Based on the FBG Expert Ranking List which RB not in the top 10, but in the top 11-20, has the best chance at cracking the top 6? Is there anyone not listed that has a better chance? Your thoughts?

Current Top 10

1 LaDainian Tomlinson, SD 2 Steven Jackson, STL 3 Larry Johnson, KC 4 Frank Gore, SF 5 Brian Westbrook, PHI 6 Shaun Alexander, SEA 7 Willie Parker, PIT 8 Joseph Addai, IND 9 Laurence Maroney, NE 10 Rudi Johnson, CIN Current 11-20

11	Reggie Bush, NO 12	Travis Henry, DEN 13	Willis McGahee, BAL 14	Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX 15	Clinton Portis, WAS 16	Edgerrin James, ARI 17	Ronnie Brown, MIA 18	Cedric Benson, CHI 19	Thomas Jones, NYJ 20	Cadillac Williams, TB

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Great idea, Jeff. I like Travis Henry this year to have a very strong year.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

My best guesses:

1 - Henry

2 - McGahee

3 - Portis

4 - Bush

5 - None

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Clinton Portis has been among the top 5 running backs thrice in his career. Running behind that beastly Redskins offensive line could put him there once again in 2007.

 

[Lash]

remember where you heard it first!

the answer to the poll is "other"

Brandon Jacobs will sneak in at #6 and you get him in the 4th round

(if PPR then Bush)

 

[King of the Jungle]

remember where you heard it first!the answer to the poll is "other"Brandon Jacobs will sneak in at #6 and you get him in the 4th round(if PPR then Bush)

Strong prediction, especially for someone who doesn't own him. What ground are you basing this off? Just curious.

 

[Jayrod]

I voted Henry because I really think he will.

I know it is the "in" thing to assume that MJD was a fluke last year. But what about picking the guy that was actually there last year and is in the exact (actually now somewhat better) situation as last year? Instead of getting nothing in weeks 1 & 2, he will be involved from the first game on and many predict an increased role. Why is it so unrealistic to think he can't do it again this year? I'm seriously considering a Henry/Jones-Drew combo from the later draft spots.

That said, Henry shouldn't be drafted behind Bush, Maroney or Rudi Johnson. I expect his ADP to be top ten by the start of the season once everyone remembers what an unquestined RB1 with some talent can do in Denver's system.

 

[JMJ]

remember where you heard it first!the answer to the poll is "other"Brandon Jacobs will sneak in at #6 and you get him in the 4th round(if PPR then Bush)

Strong prediction, especially for someone who doesn't own him. What ground are you basing this off? Just curious.

Well I didn't make the statement but I agree in thinking that Brandon Jacobs is going to be a beast this season.I'm a Jets' fan who lives in NJ so I watch every Giant game weekly also. The Giants run blocking just blows defenders off the ball. Both Tiki and Brandon last season were at the 2nd or 3rd level of the defense before they were approached by their first would-be-tackler on at least 1 out of every 3 or 4 carries.Snee and McKenzie are amongst the best run blockers at their positions in the league and form a ferocious run-blocking right-side of the Giants line. Both O'hara and Diehl can hold their own run blocking with the best of them.While I do think highly of Brandon Jacobs (have you seen this monster run?), I would expect big things from any NFL-caliber RB running behind this OLine. The Giants' offensive line (from a run-blocking perspective; not pass-blocking) is amongst the most underappreciated and most under-the-radar units in all of football.

 

[The Mechanic]

I believe The Edge has avery good chance to suprise this year. The team has had time to jell since it was put together and with the Coaching and game plan revised I think this could be good value considering his ADP

 

[PahtyTom]

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[Banger]

My order would be Henry, Portis then McGahee

 

[JMJ]

AD

 

[jurb26]

My order would be:

Portis - If Betts can finish top 10, Portis is a virtual lock to be top 6 playing all the games.

MJD - If Taylor goes down, MJD will be a stud. That's a big IF however.

 

[PahtyTom]

AD

Adrian Peterson

 

[JMJ]

AD

Adrian Peterson

Adrian Deterson?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I'd say Henry and Portis. All the others would need either a miracle or an injury.

 

[Slider]

Henry and McGahee would be the easy choices. I think Cadillac with another year, a QB and an improved line will be there.

 

[Slider]

AD

Adrian Peterson

Adrian Deterson?

All Day. You aren't serious are you?

 

[Riffraff]

1a. Henry - Denver always has a RB sniffing the top 10, even when they go RBBC.

1b. Benson - Chicago was #5 in rush attempts last year. If healthy, Benson could be a monster.

 

[JMJ]

AD

Adrian Peterson

Adrian Deterson?

All Day. You aren't serious are you?

 

[Slider]

AD

Adrian Peterson

Adrian Deterson?

All Day. You aren't serious are you?

 

[Lash]

remember where you heard it first!the answer to the poll is "other"Brandon Jacobs will sneak in at #6 and you get him in the 4th round(if PPR then Bush)

Strong prediction, especially for someone who doesn't own him. What ground are you basing this off? Just curious.

strong OLine in run blocking as was mentionedaveraged 8 TD his first two years on just a small % of the carries he will get this yearthe team didn't acquire a competitor for his job in the offseason (Droughns/Bradshaw can't carry BJ's jock)and even if a couple of the other RB spell him for a series or two, guess who will come in to finish the drive offonly thing that will stop him is injury, and i hardly factor that in as nearly every NFL player could be discounted if you worried about if they were to get hurt

 

[KellysHeroes]

If hes healthy... Portis for sure

 

[redman]

AD

Adrian Peterson

Adrian Deterson?

All Day. You aren't serious are you?

It's a stupid nickname.

 

[switz]

It's hard to pick just one...

these have a good chance to NOT finish top-10...

3 Larry Johnson, KC

5 Brian Westbrook, PHI

6 Shaun Alexander, SEA

7 Willie Parker, PIT

9 Laurence Maroney, NE

10 Rudi Johnson, CIN

these do...

11 Reggie Bush, NO

12 Travis Henry, DEN

13 Willis McGahee, BAL

15 Clinton Portis, WAS

17 Ronnie Brown, MIA

18 Cedric Benson, CHI

19 Thomas Jones, NYJ

 

[Blackjacks]

It's hard to pick just one...these have a good chance to NOT finish top-10...3 Larry Johnson, KC5 Brian Westbrook, PHI6 Shaun Alexander, SEA7 Willie Parker, PIT9 Laurence Maroney, NE10 Rudi Johnson, CINthese do...11 Reggie Bush, NO 12 Travis Henry, DEN13 Willis McGahee, BAL 15 Clinton Portis, WAS17 Ronnie Brown, MIA18 Cedric Benson, CHI 19 Thomas Jones, NYJ

Man Switz do I hope your rightowner of Bush, Henry and Portis

 

[-OZ-]

It's hard to pick just one...these have a good chance to NOT finish top-10...3 Larry Johnson, KC5 Brian Westbrook, PHI6 Shaun Alexander, SEA7 Willie Parker, PIT9 Laurence Maroney, NE10 Rudi Johnson, CINthese do...11 Reggie Bush, NO 12 Travis Henry, DEN13 Willis McGahee, BAL 15 Clinton Portis, WAS17 Ronnie Brown, MIA18 Cedric Benson, CHI 19 Thomas Jones, NYJ

Hard to argue with your list, but I'd like to see reasons. Particularly for Parker. The only reason I can see is injury, but that reason can be given for any player.The answer is "Portis".

 

[crimsonrebel]

Ive been reading for months that the Giants O line is the reason for downgrading Eli, so I'm having trouble understand how it upgrades Jacobs. Enlighten me. Also, i understand SOS will hamper the G-men. Someome convince me to pull the trigger on Jacobs. The O-line is missing a key blocker from last year, and this position wasnt seriously addressed in the offseason. What am i missing?

 

[duaneok66]

Ive been reading for months that the Giants O line is the reason for downgrading Eli, so I'm having trouble understand how it upgrades Jacobs. Enlighten me. Also, i understand SOS will hamper the G-men. Someome convince me to pull the trigger on Jacobs. The O-line is missing a key blocker from last year, and this position wasnt seriously addressed in the offseason. What am i missing?

An OL can be successful at run blocking, but not as successful at pass blocking . . . two totally different skills . . .footballoutsiders.com DOES have the Giants ranked at 7th in pass protection and 4th in run blocking in 2006 . . .

 

[Gr00vus]

I think Travis Henry will end up being top 5 this year.

Portis has a very good shot at cracking the top 10 as well as Bush if it's PPR scoring.

 

[erymer]

for me it's between Henry and Portis. Henry had a great year in Tenn and now is is heading to Denver where everyone runs for 1200+. If Portis is healthy, he could be top 5 again. I am not too worried about Betts. He tends to be a fumbler and if Portis comes out of the gates well, he'll run wild behind that skins line. I think I like Henry's chances the best though.

 

[switz]

It's hard to pick just one...these have a good chance to NOT finish top-10...3 Larry Johnson, KC5 Brian Westbrook, PHI6 Shaun Alexander, SEA7 Willie Parker, PIT9 Laurence Maroney, NE10 Rudi Johnson, CINthese do...11 Reggie Bush, NO 12 Travis Henry, DEN13 Willis McGahee, BAL 15 Clinton Portis, WAS17 Ronnie Brown, MIA18 Cedric Benson, CHI 19 Thomas Jones, NYJ

Hard to argue with your list, but I'd like to see reasons. Particularly for Parker. The only reason I can see is injury, but that reason can be given for any player.The answer is "Portis".

3 Larry Johnson, KC - reslistically, should only slip to 8-10, but I can easily see him missing top 15. The Chiefs are a mess, and Johnson isn't happy. I can see him quitting on the team, as he's not the most mature player. And previously when upset he hasn't performed well.5 Brian Westbrook, PHI - little Westy has been terrific, but usually sees less carries than he did last season. With McNabb injured, Westbrook saw his carries really increase. Then missed time the last game of the season. I just don't see him seeign that many touches again this season, which will drop him to the 10-12 range.6 Shaun Alexander, SEA - this guy is just past his prime. He's been injured quite a bit recently, and unable to fully recuperate. He'll be great for about 7-10 games.7 Willie Parker, PIT - I see Parker's touches ecreasing this season. Ben will be better, and I don't see another 4 games where Parker gets 30 carries. Just a hunch I guess. But I think they'll give him a break more.9 Laurence Maroney, NE - totally unproven, and couldn't carry the load in college. Was injured in part time duty last season.10 Rudi Johnson, CIN - rumors have him losing touches already. Doubtful he finishes top 10 while splitting time.---11 Reggie Bush, NO - he was nearly top-10 last season while sucking the first half.12 Travis Henry, DEN - denver + talent = success.13 Willis McGahee, BAL - will have so many carries, even if he averages 3 YPC, he'll be near top-10 in points.15 Clinton Portis, WAS - should have been top-10 already.17 Ronnie Brown, MIA - same as portis. no ricky, a real QB.18 Cedric Benson, CHI - total hunch on my part. no i don't own him, and not a bears fan. 19 Thomas Jones, NYJ - the Jets will be so happy to have his skills - and he'll make them more happy with his play. Shocked to see him this low on the list.

 

[Tau837]

I voted Henry because I really think he will.I know it is the "in" thing to assume that MJD was a fluke last year. But what about picking the guy that was actually there last year and is in the exact (actually now somewhat better) situation as last year? Instead of getting nothing in weeks 1 & 2, he will be involved from the first game on and many predict an increased role. Why is it so unrealistic to think he can't do it again this year? I'm seriously considering a Henry/Jones-Drew combo from the later draft spots.That said, Henry shouldn't be drafted behind Bush, Maroney or Rudi Johnson. I expect his ADP to be top ten by the start of the season once everyone remembers what an unquestined RB1 with some talent can do in Denver's system.

Here is a recent post I made on MJD:

Curious at the lack of love for MJD here. He was top ten as a rookie last season with no signs that his involvment will go down. Why does every back coming off their rookie seasons get a bump up into the top ten, yet one the largest gets bumped out?

Here is my reasoning. MJD had 212 touches last season. The next lowest number for a top 10 RB last season was Betts, who was RB10 and had 298 touches. The top 10 RBs other than MJD averaged 378 touches. Also, only 5 RBs had more TDs than MJD.So, basically, he had a flukishly good season in terms of production per touch. I expect him to have lower ypc than 5.7 and lower ypr than 9.5, perhaps significantly lower in one or both. And I expect him to have fewer TDs.I do expect him to have more touches, but not a lot more... not more than 250. Given that, I am not confident that he can again put up top 10 RB numbers.

 

[cobalt_27]

Willis McGahee, BAL - will have so many carries, even if he averages 3 YPC, he'll be near top-10 in points.

He won't. He'll be at 4.4 by year's end.

 

[switz]

Willis McGahee, BAL - will have so many carries, even if he averages 3 YPC, he'll be near top-10 in points.

He won't. He'll be at 4.4 by year's end.

Arte you stalking me????? I didn't say he would...

 

[cobalt_27]

Willis McGahee, BAL - will have so many carries, even if he averages 3 YPC, he'll be near top-10 in points.

He won't. He'll be at 4.4 by year's end.

Arte you stalking me????? I didn't say he would...

Calm down. Nobody's stalking you. I've just heard a lot about his sub-par YPA in Buffalo, highlighted by FBG staff in their synopsis (all-but-one has him below 4.0, which is ridiculous), and I think it's important to point out, along with the gazillions of carries he's going to get, he's also going to have a very nice YPA. I think he'll easily crack the top-10, and I'm drafting @ 10/11 in my main league, accordingly.

 

[switz]

Willis McGahee, BAL - will have so many carries, even if he averages 3 YPC, he'll be near top-10 in points.

He won't. He'll be at 4.4 by year's end.

Arte you stalking me????? I didn't say he would...

Calm down. Nobody's stalking you. I've just heard a lot about his sub-par YPA in Buffalo, highlighted by FBG staff in their synopsis (all-but-one has him below 4.0, which is ridiculous), and I think it's important to point out, along with the gazillions of carries he's going to get, he's also going to have a very nice YPA. I think he'll easily crack the top-10, and I'm drafting @ 10/11 in my main league, accordingly.

That was my point as well... regardless of how bad people may say his YPC is going to be, he's going to get the ball a ton, and perform.

 

[mbuehner]

The big problem with this type of prognosticating is that ultimately there is no ability to falsify, mostly because injuries ultimately decide who makes the top 10 as opposed to talent/opportunity. That is generally true of any tier, but with a swath 10 players wide and a position as prone to injury at RB its tough to judge.

That being said, I think Portis is unjustifiably low, and Thomas Jones has a top notch opportunity to makes the top 10. Unfortunately the guys i want to drop out I can only argue the likelihood of injury.

 

[DropKick]

Bush, MJD and Portis all could be in a RBBC situation. My vote goes Henry and then McGahee. The Denver system has a long history of succesful backs and the Ravens will run the ball often, as others have said.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Portis is a lock to make the top 5.

I could also see Henry making the top 5.

 

[ravnzfan]

Bush, MJD and Portis all could be in a RBBC situation. My vote goes Henry and then McGahee. The Denver system has a long history of succesful backs and the Ravens will run the ball often, as others have said.

depends which Shanny shows up...if he pounds Henry like he did TD, Gary and Droughns, Henry is if he pulls this fickle sh-*t from the last couple years w/RBBC, then all bets are off

McGahee sees 400+ touches (360/40 or more ea) on a team w/a strong D that puts them up early and often, with a coach that loves to take the clock away from it's opponents by running it down their throats while on the lead

1800 combined + 9 TD's = 235 FF points for Willis--good for RB7-ish

***edit*** and about damn time "Wheelhouse" has staff underneath his name--congrats Jeff!

 

[Gopher State]

Based on the list

Best shot: Henry, lots of td's coming his way

Worst shot: Bush (non-PPR) Duce will be the td/rushing yards leader in NO

 

[Blackjacks]

Based on the listBest shot: Henry, lots of td's coming his wayWorst shot: Bush (non-PPR) Duce will be the td/rushing yards leader in NO

Bush actually had alot of carries inside the redzone towards the end of the year. Deuce only had 3 more td's than him. I'll take Bush's chances to score more this year

 

[remote controller]

Wow, the Portis support just floors me. I figured last season would be enough to sway people away from him. Really suprising. I went with Bush first, which is a total no brainer, then MJD. It's not like jacksonville will not use him this year. Hell, they'll use him more than last. He might not score 16 Td's, but I feel 12 is very likely. Yeah they have a big back healthy again. What's his name............ Correll Perry?????

 

[erymer]

Bush, MJD and Portis all could be in a RBBC situation. My vote goes Henry and then McGahee. The Denver system has a long history of succesful backs and the Ravens will run the ball often, as others have said.

depends which Shanny shows up...if he pounds Henry like he did TD, Gary and Droughns, Henry is if he pulls this fickle sh-*t from the last couple years w/RBBC, then all bets are off

McGahee sees 400+ touches (360/40 or more ea) on a team w/a strong D that puts them up early and often, with a coach that loves to take the clock away from it's opponents by running it down their throats while on the lead

1800 combined + 9 TD's = 235 FF points for Willis--good for RB7-ish

***edit*** and about damn time "Wheelhouse" has staff underneath his name--congrats Jeff!

Agree about the Shanny comment. the sad thing is that even Tatum bell put up over 1,000 yds last year. Bottom line, barring a disaster, Henry will be huge.

 

[Banger]

Wow, the Portis support just floors me. I figured last season would be enough to sway people away from him. Really suprising. I went with Bush first, which is a total no brainer, then MJD. It's not like jacksonville will not use him this year. Hell, they'll use him more than last. He might not score 16 Td's, but I feel 12 is very likely. Yeah they have a big back healthy again. What's his name............ Correll Perry?????

Why? He was hurt last year, it happens. I'd expect Betts to get a few less carries than Portis got last year and Betts finished top 10 last year so why shouldn't Portis? Portis >> Betts.

 

[veto87]

remember where you heard it first!the answer to the poll is "other"Brandon Jacobs will sneak in at #6 and you get him in the 4th round(if PPR then Bush)

Strong prediction, especially for someone who doesn't own him. What ground are you basing this off? Just curious.

Well I didn't make the statement but I agree in thinking that Brandon Jacobs is going to be a beast this season.I'm a Jets' fan who lives in NJ so I watch every Giant game weekly also. The Giants run blocking just blows defenders off the ball. Both Tiki and Brandon last season were at the 2nd or 3rd level of the defense before they were approached by their first would-be-tackler on at least 1 out of every 3 or 4 carries.Snee and McKenzie are amongst the best run blockers at their positions in the league and form a ferocious run-blocking right-side of the Giants line. Both O'hara and Diehl can hold their own run blocking with the best of them.While I do think highly of Brandon Jacobs (have you seen this monster run?), I would expect big things from any NFL-caliber RB running behind this OLine. The Giants' offensive line (from a run-blocking perspective; not pass-blocking) is amongst the most underappreciated and most under-the-radar units in all of football.

gotta stay healthy for the whole season though ! The guy just takes too many hits with his running style !