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[normnailz]

Running Back A carried the rock 14 times or more in a game exactly 6 times. In those 6 games 4 of them were for over 100 combined yards (receiving, rushing). His average fantasy points in those 6 games equalled 16.66/game. Running Back B also carried the rock 14 times or more in a game exactly 6 times. In those 6 games, 5 of them were for over 100 combined yards. His average fantasy points in those 6 games equalled 16.83/game. RB A must be selected as high as the 4th best/highest paid RB in drafts to have guarantee getting him on your roster, while RB A must be selected as high as the 9th best/highest paid RB in drafts to get him on your roster. One last note, both of these backs have been labeled as "injury prone".

Which RB presents the best value?

What are we missing here? All the experts are predicting a huge season for RB A if he can stay healthy, yet none have talked about how good of a season RB B would have if he can stay healthy for all 16 games. Both players belong to mediocre teams. RB B looks like he will have a better offense around him with an established QB, while RB B has an offense the jury is still out on. They could be one of the best offenses in the league, but they could also falter and end up being the worst.

If you haven't figured it out yet, RB A is Darren McFadden and RB B is Ryan Mathews.

I'll take my $15 back and put him up against a $30 back any day ($100 cap/10 team/13 roster spots w/keepers). If McFadden stays healthy, he could be the best in the league, but why couldn't Mathews? No more Tolbert stealing those goal line touches, a good QB with good offensive weapons. Who does McFadden have around him, Palmer, Heyward-Bey, a couple of average TEs? Just saying.

I need to make myself feel better about getting Mathews and not being able to afford McFadden in an auction league last night, DAMNIT!

 

[Acrobat7]

the knock on them is that they get injured too easily. so who's on the injury report again prior to week one?

 

[joffer]

What are we missing here?

one's already hurtone isn'tHTH

 

[Raider Nation]

I have both of 'em!

 

[normnailz]

I realize Mathews is injured, but it sounds like he will be back in Week 2. I ended up making sure I got DeAngelo on that same team so he could replace Mathews for Week 1. I really wanted McFadden in one of my 3 pay leagues. Couldn't get him in the re-draft league with the 7th pick and couldn't pull the trigger on him and pay $31 in my auction league. In this particular league my backs are Martin, Mathews, Charles and DeAngelo, so am not feeling too bad about the McFadden situation.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Let me know when you're ready to discuss Running Back C - Fred Jackson who had 7 of those 14 carry games with 6 of them going for more than 100 YFS. Not to mention that in 2 where he didn't hit that number, he still eclipsed 100 YFS.

 

[LittlePhatty]

If you haven't figured it out yet, RB A is Darren McFadden and RB B is Ryan Mathews.

Both were Top 10 before Mathews broke his shoulder in pre-season. These types of threads are usually reserved for underrated players.

...yet none have talked about how good of a season RB B would have

Plenty of people were talking about exactly that a month ago. Before he broke his shoulder. Back around June I think Mathews was projected as the #4 RB off the board by some people.

 

[Warpig]

I have both of 'em!

Me too.

 

[jdsmit06]

Or RB D who had 5 such 14 carry games, all of which going for over 100 and averaging 169 combined yards and 19ppg in those 5 games who can be had much later than both.

Demarco Murray

 

[butcher boy]

I realize Mathews is injured, but it sounds like he will be back in Week 2.

While this is true, keep in mind that if you have him projected for about 200 carries, at his current rate, that puts him on pace to get hurt 200 times.

 

[normnailz]

Let me know when you're ready to discuss Running Back C - Fred Jackson who had 7 of those 14 carry games with 6 of them going for more than 100 YFS. Not to mention that in 2 where he didn't hit that number, he still eclipsed 100 YFS.

true that! i made sure i got him in at least one of my leagues. his biggest hit is having a very capable backup, but i just don't see Spiller putting that big of a dent in Jackson's production.

 

[Hang 10]

I prefer that my fragile rb's at least wait til the season starts to get injured.

 

[rickyg]

If you haven't figured it out yet, RB A is Darren McFadden and RB B is Ryan Mathews.

Both were Top 10 before Mathews broke his shoulder in pre-season. These types of threads are usually reserved for underrated players.

...yet none have talked about how good of a season RB B would have

Plenty of people were talking about exactly that a month ago. Before he broke his shoulder. Back around June I think Mathews was projected as the #4 RB off the board by some people.

Yeah many had Mathews ranked ahead of McFadden actually...right behind the big 3

 

[solorca]

Before the injury, it was really a big 4 in a lot of people's minds.

I was on board too. Switched to mcfadden based on the injury.

 

[VaTerp]

Before the injury, it was really a big 4 in a lot of people's minds. I was on board too. Switched to mcfadden based on the injury.

Really?I'm about as big a Mathews proponent as there is and I NEVER considered him to be in the same tier with the big 3.I do like the upside of both he and DMC this year and targeted both as I feel ok rolling the dice on their health and hoping to get a big return at a reduced price.Ended up taking Mathews in the 3rd round in 1 league and getting him $10 cheaper than DMC in my auction. Again, I like both but with Mathews already being hurt it's a no brainer that DMC has more value right now.

 

[BoltBacker]

Who Am I?

People have been saying the tread is wearing off my tires for several years now. I'm being called an injury risk despite the fact I've missed 2 games in the past 3 seasons. Over the past three years I've averaged 300+ carries/season and 1600+ yards from scrimmage/season.

Finally, all summer while peanut-brittle and cashew-brittle were being drafted in the first round I was drafted in the third and sometimes even fourth round.

 

[John 14:6]

I have both of 'em!

Same here

 

[ConnSKINS26]

These type of existential questions probably belong in the FFA. GL GB.

 

[John 14:6]

Who Am I?People have been saying the tread is wearing off my tires for several years now. I'm being called an injury risk despite the fact I've missed 2 games in the past 3 seasons. Over the past three years I've averaged 300+ carries/season and 1600+ yards from scrimmage/season.Finally, all summer while peanut-brittle and cashew-brittle were being drafted in the first round I was drafted in the third and sometimes even fourth round.

Michael Turner?

 

[SameSongNDance]

Who Am I?

People have been saying the tread is wearing off my tires for several years now. I'm being called an injury risk despite the fact I've missed 2 games in the past 3 seasons. Over the past three years I've averaged 300+ carries/season and 1600+ yards from scrimmage/season.

Finally, all summer while peanut-brittle and cashew-brittle were being drafted in the first round I was drafted in the third and sometimes even fourth round.

Michael Turner?

Gave it away right there. Steven Jackson. I'm high as all hell on him this year. Fisher is going to run him into the ground for one last hurray.

 

[Warrior]

If you haven't figured it out yet, RB A is Darren McFadden and RB B is Ryan Mathews.

Both were Top 10 before Mathews broke his shoulder in pre-season. These types of threads are usually reserved for underrated players.

...yet none have talked about how good of a season RB B would have

Plenty of people were talking about exactly that a month ago. Before he broke his shoulder. Back around June I think Mathews was projected as the #4 RB off the board by some people.

 

[VaTerp]

Who Am I?

People have been saying the tread is wearing off my tires for several years now. I'm being called an injury risk despite the fact I've missed 2 games in the past 3 seasons. Over the past three years I've averaged 300+ carries/season and 1600+ yards from scrimmage/season.

Finally, all summer while peanut-brittle and cashew-brittle were being drafted in the first round I was drafted in the third and sometimes even fourth round.

Michael Turner?

Gave it away right there. Steven Jackson. I'm high as all hell on him this year. Fisher is going to run him into the ground for one last hurray.

I hope you're right. I wanted to pair Mathews with McFadden for the all risk/reward backfield. Ended up getting Jackson for about $14 less than DMC. Jackson has some injury history of his own but if he can stay healthy I think he gets one last big year out of what has been an underrated career IMO.

 

[BoltBacker]

Who Am I?People have been saying the tread is wearing off my tires for several years now. I'm being called an injury risk despite the fact I've missed 2 games in the past 3 seasons. Over the past three years I've averaged 300+ carries/season and 1600+ yards from scrimmage/season.Finally, all summer while peanut-brittle and cashew-brittle were being drafted in the first round I was drafted in the third and sometimes even fourth round.

Michael Turner?

No, but good thought. I've felt that S.Jax in the 3rd and Turner in the 4th is the best RB strategy if you aren't lucky enough to get those top 3 RB's. It might even be the best RB strategy period if you are in a QB heavy league.I'd just like to thank FBG, and the FF community in general, for their obsession with all things shiny and new. Even if Turner had a 20% drop in production he's an absolute steal in the 4th. There are a lot of "boring" older players going for pennies on the dollar with their risks being greatly exaggerated imo.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

I have both of 'em!

Same here

I predict you both win your leagues with that stable!My impression was that most were valuing Ryan Matthews and McFadden the same way even before Matthews busted his clavicle. They are both the kinds of backs that will be special as long as they stay healthy, and both have similar levels of injury-risk concern.

 

[RUSF18]

Who Am I?People have been saying the tread is wearing off my tires for several years now. I'm being called an injury risk despite the fact I've missed 2 games in the past 3 seasons. Over the past three years I've averaged 300+ carries/season and 1600+ yards from scrimmage/season.Finally, all summer while peanut-brittle and cashew-brittle were being drafted in the first round I was drafted in the third and sometimes even fourth round.

Michael Turner?

No, but good thought. I've felt that S.Jax in the 3rd and Turner in the 4th is the best RB strategy if you aren't lucky enough to get those top 3 RB's. It might even be the best RB strategy period if you are in a QB heavy league.I'd just like to thank FBG, and the FF community in general, for their obsession with all things shiny and new. Even if Turner had a 20% drop in production he's an absolute steal in the 4th. There are a lot of "boring" older players going for pennies on the dollar with their risks being greatly exaggerated imo.

I was shocked to grab Turner in an auction keeper this year since I'm not a big fan, but the value was just too good to pass up. In a league where I (happily) paid $57 for Richardson, I grabbed Turner for $32. All day. For $13 less than Reggie Bush and $2 less than Steven Ridley.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Who Am I?People have been saying the tread is wearing off my tires for several years now. I'm being called an injury risk despite the fact I've missed 2 games in the past 3 seasons. Over the past three years I've averaged 300+ carries/season and 1600+ yards from scrimmage/season.Finally, all summer while peanut-brittle and cashew-brittle were being drafted in the first round I was drafted in the third and sometimes even fourth round.

Michael Turner?

No, but good thought. I've felt that S.Jax in the 3rd and Turner in the 4th is the best RB strategy if you aren't lucky enough to get those top 3 RB's. It might even be the best RB strategy period if you are in a QB heavy league.I'd just like to thank FBG, and the FF community in general, for their obsession with all things shiny and new. Even if Turner had a 20% drop in production he's an absolute steal in the 4th. There are a lot of "boring" older players going for pennies on the dollar with their risks being greatly exaggerated imo.

Although I still think Turner is going to fall off a cliff come December per usual, I have to agree with you. People need to realize every player has a price, it's about finding value. Of course taking Turner in the 3rd is too much of a risk, but I've seen him go late 4th in some drafts as a RB3 which IMO, is very good value. Just make sure you trade him before the slow down.

 

[ZWK]

How about this one: RB E had 14+ touches in 5 games last year. In those 5 games, 4 of them were for over 100 combined yards (receiving, rushing). His average fantasy points in those 5 games equaled 15.74/game (non-PPR). But now he is ranked outside the top 50 RBs.

Who am I? And what do I have in common with RB B?

 

[SameSongNDance]

How about this one: RB E had 14+ touches in 5 games last year. In those 5 games, 4 of them were for over 100 combined yards (receiving, rushing). His average fantasy points in those 5 games equaled 15.74/game (non-PPR). But now he is ranked outside the top 50 RBs.Who am I? And what do I have in common with RB B?

I think this one is easy as well, Roy Helu?

 

[ZWK]

How about this one: RB E had 14+ touches in 5 games last year. In those 5 games, 4 of them were for over 100 combined yards (receiving, rushing). His average fantasy points in those 5 games equaled 15.74/game (non-PPR). But now he is ranked outside the top 50 RBs.Who am I? And what do I have in common with RB B?

I think this one is easy as well, Roy Helu?

Nope. He's ranked around RB40. That was a surprisingly good guess, though - I just checked the numbers and he matches all of the other criteria, except with 15.42/game instead of 15.74. And he doesn't have the key similarity to Ryan Mathews, which is the whole reason why I'm bringing up RB E.

 

[SameSongNDance]

How about this one: RB E had 14+ touches in 5 games last year. In those 5 games, 4 of them were for over 100 combined yards (receiving, rushing). His average fantasy points in those 5 games equaled 15.74/game (non-PPR). But now he is ranked outside the top 50 RBs.Who am I? And what do I have in common with RB B?

I think this one is easy as well, Roy Helu?

Nope. He's ranked around RB40. That was a surprisingly good guess, though - I just checked the numbers and he matches all of the other criteria, except with 15.42/game instead of 15.74. And he doesn't have the key similarity to Ryan Mathews.

Darn, haha I thought the key similarity is that they were both made out of paper mache. I have to head over to a buds house for the game but I'm going to let that marinate for a second, thought I was dead on.

 

[VaTerp]

How about this one: RB E had 14+ touches in 5 games last year. In those 5 games, 4 of them were for over 100 combined yards (receiving, rushing). His average fantasy points in those 5 games equaled 15.74/game (non-PPR). But now he is ranked outside the top 50 RBs.Who am I? And what do I have in common with RB B?

I think this one is easy as well, Roy Helu?

Nope. He's ranked around RB40. That was a surprisingly good guess, though - I just checked the numbers and he matches all of the other criteria, except with 15.42/game instead of 15.74. And he doesn't have the key similarity to Ryan Mathews, which is the whole reason why I'm bringing up RB E.

Mike Tolbert?

 

[ZWK]

Not Tolbert.

I didn't mean for this to be tricky. One more hint: I was a top 12 RB in ppg last year. That should narrow it down so that there's only one other plausible wrong answer (well, maybe 2).

 

[VaTerp]

Not Tolbert.I didn't mean for this to be tricky. One more hint: I was a top 12 RB in ppg last year. That should narrow it down so that there's only one other plausible wrong answer (well, maybe 2).

Javhid Best or Kevin Smith?

 

[ZWK]

Not Tolbert.

I didn't mean for this to be tricky. One more hint: I was a top 12 RB in ppg last year. That should narrow it down so that there's only one other plausible wrong answer (well, maybe 2).

Javhid Best or Kevin Smith?

Yes, I am Jahvid Best. Like Ryan Mathews, I am currently injured. That is why I am outside the top 50 RBs, and it is absurd to talk about my fantasy value without mentioning that fact.

 

[VaTerp]

Not Tolbert.

I didn't mean for this to be tricky. One more hint: I was a top 12 RB in ppg last year. That should narrow it down so that there's only one other plausible wrong answer (well, maybe 2).

Javhid Best or Kevin Smith?

Yes, I am Jahvid Best. Like Ryan Mathews, I am currently injured. That is why I am outside the top 50 RBs, and it is absurd to talk about my fantasy value without mentioning that fact.

I see. Slight difference between someone on PUP and someone who should be back in a week or 2.

 

[ZWK]

Not Tolbert.

I didn't mean for this to be tricky. One more hint: I was a top 12 RB in ppg last year. That should narrow it down so that there's only one other plausible wrong answer (well, maybe 2).

Javhid Best or Kevin Smith?

Yes, I am Jahvid Best. Like Ryan Mathews, I am currently injured. That is why I am outside the top 50 RBs, and it is absurd to talk about my fantasy value without mentioning that fact.

I see. Slight difference between someone on PUP and someone who should be back in a week or 2.

Agreed. And I do like Mathews for this season. But there's no mystery why he's ranked behind McFadden. Most people had him ahead of McFadden during the offseason, often at number 4 overall, but then he broke his shoulder and dropped a round or 2 in the rankings.