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CrossEyed
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Is it Anderson or Musa Smith? I thought I read somewhere that Anderson may be moved back to FB. Any homers have any insight on this?
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Colin Dowling
Footballguy
If/when the Ravens are out of it, I don't think it will be Billick making those decisions as he won't be on the sidelines any longer.Colin
jerseys finest
Footballguy
are you sure about this? I am completely on the musa smith bandwagon as i think he is a better and far more explosive back then Lewis, but according to the ravens depth chart, it has Anderson listed as the backup with musa being the 3rd option.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Musa would get more carries.MA is more of a fullback / CoP back this year. He isn't in Denver any more, and he plays like it. (That is, the Denver line > Balt line, which is still decent).
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CrossEyed
Guest
So would you rather have Musa or Vernand Morency on your roster? Who gets more of a chance to produce this year?
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Morrency is behind an un-proven rookie. On the flip-side, he is behind a bad oline with a crummy QB.
Smith is w/ a decent O-line and a decent QB. The bad news is he's behind Lewis, who if he is actually recovered, could hog the load. I happen to think Lewis will have a decent year.
Smith is w/ a decent O-line and a decent QB. The bad news is he's behind Lewis, who if he is actually recovered, could hog the load. I happen to think Lewis will have a decent year.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
As do I. Money is often THE most powerful motivator and Lewis is still young.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Last season I carried Chester Taylor on my team the whole year because I "knew" it was only a matter of time before Lewis got benched or injured. I am not about to do that again with Musa Smith*
* which is an excellent reason for you to pick him up as he'll probably rush for 1000+ yards and score 10 TDs.
* which is an excellent reason for you to pick him up as he'll probably rush for 1000+ yards and score 10 TDs.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Actually the Texans run-block just fine. Pass blocking is awful.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Jamal Lewis is listed as Ques on the Wed injury report with the hip flexor. Now, i think he plays but im just saying.. i too carried Chester last year and am carrying Musa this year.
remote controller
Footballguy
This threw me for a loop?????
September 6, 2006 6:11 PM ET
Ravens: Lewis should be ready
The News
Running back Jamal Lewis expects to be ready for the Ravens' season opener on Sunday, the Baltimore Sun reported.
Our View
Even if Lewis gets the start, Mike Anderson is in line to receive a decent share of the carries and a road game against the Buccaneers doesn't project well for either's fantasy production. Only use Lewis in Week One if you have no other options available.
September 6, 2006 6:11 PM ET
Ravens: Lewis should be ready
The News
Running back Jamal Lewis expects to be ready for the Ravens' season opener on Sunday, the Baltimore Sun reported.
Our View
Even if Lewis gets the start, Mike Anderson is in line to receive a decent share of the carries and a road game against the Buccaneers doesn't project well for either's fantasy production. Only use Lewis in Week One if you have no other options available.
joffer
Footballguy
Ravens | M. Anderson dropped in the depth chart
Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:33:19 -0700
Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports Baltimore Ravens RB Mike Anderson has been moved down to the No. 3 running back spot on the team's depth chart.
Ravens | M. Smith promoted to No. 2 running back
Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:32:51 -0700
Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports Baltimore Ravens RB Musa Smith has been moved up to the No. 2 running back spot behind RB Jamal Lewis.
Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:33:19 -0700
Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports Baltimore Ravens RB Mike Anderson has been moved down to the No. 3 running back spot on the team's depth chart.
Ravens | M. Smith promoted to No. 2 running back
Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:32:51 -0700
Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports Baltimore Ravens RB Musa Smith has been moved up to the No. 2 running back spot behind RB Jamal Lewis.
mr. furley
Footballguy
why would Musa Smith, a guy that sat behind Chester Taylor last year, suddenly vault ahead of a proven 1,000 yard rusher in Anderson despite this type of press:
"Smith has pretty much been the definition of 'bust' since being drafted in 2003. In 21 career NFL games, he has 21 carries for 79 yards and two TDs, both of which coming in '03. Smith is injury prone and will fight for a roster spot this preseason. He should be ignored unless he makes the team and both Jamal Lewis and Mike Anderson get banged up. (Updated 6/19/06)"
old update. but, what, did the light suddenly go on and he's ready to carry the load?
3 years in the league and he's carried the ball TWENTY ONE TIMES! when Lewis has gone down in the past it looks like Chester Taylor was getting the carries.
Lewis:
2002 Baltimore Ravens 308carries 1327yds
2003 Baltimore Ravens 387 2066
2004 Baltimore Ravens 235 1006
2005 Baltimore Ravens 269 906
Taylor:
2002 Baltimore Ravens 33carries 122yds
2003 Baltimore Ravens 63 276
2004 Baltimore Ravens 160 714
2005 Baltimore Ravens 117 487
Smith:
2003 Baltimore Ravens 9carries 31yds
2004 Baltimore Ravens 12 48
2005 Baltimore Ravens 0 0
Anderson:
2002 Denver Broncos 84carries 386yds
2003 Denver Broncos 70 257
2004 Denver Broncos 0 0
2005 Denver Broncos 239 1014
(not to mention the 1400 he put up in 2000)
random drawing. knowing nothing of those guys.. i'd pick Smith last.
"Smith has pretty much been the definition of 'bust' since being drafted in 2003. In 21 career NFL games, he has 21 carries for 79 yards and two TDs, both of which coming in '03. Smith is injury prone and will fight for a roster spot this preseason. He should be ignored unless he makes the team and both Jamal Lewis and Mike Anderson get banged up. (Updated 6/19/06)"
old update. but, what, did the light suddenly go on and he's ready to carry the load?
3 years in the league and he's carried the ball TWENTY ONE TIMES! when Lewis has gone down in the past it looks like Chester Taylor was getting the carries.
Lewis:
2002 Baltimore Ravens 308carries 1327yds
2003 Baltimore Ravens 387 2066
2004 Baltimore Ravens 235 1006
2005 Baltimore Ravens 269 906
Taylor:
2002 Baltimore Ravens 33carries 122yds
2003 Baltimore Ravens 63 276
2004 Baltimore Ravens 160 714
2005 Baltimore Ravens 117 487
Smith:
2003 Baltimore Ravens 9carries 31yds
2004 Baltimore Ravens 12 48
2005 Baltimore Ravens 0 0
Anderson:
2002 Denver Broncos 84carries 386yds
2003 Denver Broncos 70 257
2004 Denver Broncos 0 0
2005 Denver Broncos 239 1014
(not to mention the 1400 he put up in 2000)
random drawing. knowing nothing of those guys.. i'd pick Smith last.
Tick
Footballguy
Furley, did you watch Musa this preseason?He's a reasonably high draft pick from a good RB school who has been derailed by injuries so far, but he looked like a beast this preseason.
Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
Because Smith was still recovering from a broken leg and he is now 100%. Smith has looked great in training camp and preseason games.
Musa Smith's was on the PUP to start last season, played in 1 game, then was put on IR. AFAIK, it was due to his broken leg in 2004. He was on IR for half of that year, too. Sure he's an injury risk, obviously, but he's also the #2 RB in Baltimore.
Anderson is only 'proven' in the Denver system. He's also on the wrong side of 30.
Anderson is only 'proven' in the Denver system. He's also on the wrong side of 30.
mr. furley
Footballguy
didn't see him once.still mystified.i see a guy who has had 3 years to prove himself.. has had an injured knee, a broken leg, and been placed on the PUP. Najeh Davenport has had the same career and he just got waived. Anderson is a proven guy. he's done it. he had over 1k last year at age 31. i'm not trying to say the guy is a premier RB and will gain 1k again this year if only given the opportunity.. but he's a guy with game experience, a tough guy, reliable with the ball. he's got 36 td's in his career.Musa Smith hasn't really seen the field.. i guess he's got fresher legs as a result and he's younger but the league is littered with 3rd string RB's that sound a lot better than they look in action.eta: guess what i'm saying is the SP has a tendency to really hype the unproven guy and overlook the proven vet. if there's a 2 man race for the job the SP will nearly always favor unproven youth over veteran experience. teams don't often sign 32 year old RBs to be 3rd string. they can get a rookie to do that.
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Banger
Footballguy
Anderson has looked every bit of 32 this year. Slow, plodding and clearly not in Denver anymore. MA has no burst and Musa does. I don't think their intention when they signed him was to be 3rd string but Musa was coming off a major leg injury so they didn't know what they had in him. I also think they signed MA as leverage to get Jamal back in the fold but that's just my opinion. Musa clearly outplayed MA in the preseason and definitely deserves the backup job over MA, no question about it.
mr. furley
Footballguy
not trying to be dense here but.... why sign him then? you've got Musa Smith. why let Chester Taylor go? they can draft a guy.doesn't really make sense, to me anyways, to bring a 32 year old in to be your #3 as a way to leverage Jamal Lewis.
Banger
Footballguy
Chester didn't want to be here. He was upset they matched his offersheet from the Browns last year. The point is they didn't know what they had in Musa. He was coming off a horrific leg break and could not be counted on as a #2 back prior to the season. He's been injured throughout his entire pro career so it would be totally irresponsible to hand him the keys to the #2 job coming off an injury like that. Again, they didn't bring MA in to be the #3 rb, it just worked out that way because he was outplayed. Dayne was supposed to be the started in Denver which is why they let MA go in the first place. He gets hurt and then ends up cut. In training camp people win and lose jobs and in this case MA lost his spot on the depth chart. I suspect if they had a crystal ball and saw how training camp would end up they probably wouldn't never have signed him to a $2 mill/year deal.mr. furley said:not trying to be dense here but.... why sign him then? you've got Musa Smith. why let Chester Taylor go? they can draft a guy.doesn't really make sense, to me anyways, to bring a 32 year old in to be your #3 as a way to leverage Jamal Lewis.Banger said:
Banger
Footballguy
I'd probably hold on to both. Definitely Lundy. Blaylock may be a starter at least he's in the mix. Musa's only gonna get carries if Jamal goes down or is totally ineffective.
He's not in a contract year.That was last year. And all we heard was "he didn't want to risk his future, so he was running like a girl". Lewis is a monster bust and a waste of a draft pick.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
I'm sure MA and even Shanny are less than happy w/ their decisions also @ this point.Jamal is looking for his payday, so he'll do everything possible to stay on the field to up the ante. Though Musa looks like a decent cuff play if you've got the roster spot to spare @ this point and you're already not carrying M Turner or Morris.mr. furley said:not trying to be dense here but.... why sign him then? you've got Musa Smith. why let Chester Taylor go? they can draft a guy.doesn't really make sense, to me anyways, to bring a 32 year old in to be your #3 as a way to leverage Jamal Lewis.Banger said:
brednbuddah
Footballguy
I heard Musa was having a great camp/pre-season where this could happen eventually, but I never expected it to be this soon.took Musa in the last couple rounds Wednesday as the handcuff to Lewis and was just about laughed out of the draft. sweet vindication
Hears Musa's also a pretty good receiver. Any chances he gets 10-12 touches per even if Lewis is healthy all year? Not like Billick cares about pumping up Jamal's stats for a big contract. And if he leaves, probably wants his replacememnt in Musa to have seen some live action.
Bluestaples
Footballguy
blackdot
for trading for him in a dynasty league in July
mr. furley
Footballguy
this certainly doesn't look too positive.
this blurb previous to the final pre-season game (from the Baltimore Sun):
Tonight's game
Things to watch
Veteran / / Running back Musa Smith. An impressive start to the preseason led to Smith starting in place of injured Jamal Lewis. But Smith didn't fare well with the starters last week, carrying seven times for 11 yards and then blaming the offensive line for not opening holes.
this blurb previous to the final pre-season game (from the Baltimore Sun):
Tonight's game
Things to watch
Veteran / / Running back Musa Smith. An impressive start to the preseason led to Smith starting in place of injured Jamal Lewis. But Smith didn't fare well with the starters last week, carrying seven times for 11 yards and then blaming the offensive line for not opening holes.
mr. furley
Footballguy
apparently Musa looked great in the first 2 games.. ripping off two runs totaling 80 yards.
then finished the last 2 games with 7 & 11 yards.
not like Mike Anderson did a whole lot but apparently he had a concussion in the first game or sometime before that.... not going to pound him up in there in the pre-season when he's got a concussion.
then finished the last 2 games with 7 & 11 yards.
not like Mike Anderson did a whole lot but apparently he had a concussion in the first game or sometime before that.... not going to pound him up in there in the pre-season when he's got a concussion.
Banger
Footballguy
ya, Musa had a couple nice runs and catches in the 1st couple games against mostly 2nd teamers and came down to earth when going against starters the final 2 games.apparently Musa looked great in the first 2 games.. ripping off two runs totaling 80 yards.then finished the last 2 games with 7 & 11 yards.not like Mike Anderson did a whole lot but apparently he had a concussion in the first game or sometime before that.... not going to pound him up in there in the pre-season when he's got a concussion.
Trap Play
Footballguy
I'll admit, I hadn't been following Musa Smith too closely in the pre-season, but I am now that I've seen he's surpassed Mike Anderson on the depth chart, and Jamal Lewis is questionable with a hip-flexor.
That being said, in looking at the game stats for the third and fourth pre-season games that he ran for 7 & 11 yards, it is worh noting that he only had 4 attempts in each game. Hardly enough to establish a rythm, which I would think that would be all the more important when playing against a first-team defense.
Clearly calling the line out is not cool and is shades of Kevan Barlow, which worries me.
However, when trying to deciced on a RB6, it is between Derrick Blaylock, Cedric Cobbs, and Musa Smith for me, and I like Musa's situation the best at the moment.
That being said, in looking at the game stats for the third and fourth pre-season games that he ran for 7 & 11 yards, it is worh noting that he only had 4 attempts in each game. Hardly enough to establish a rythm, which I would think that would be all the more important when playing against a first-team defense.
Clearly calling the line out is not cool and is shades of Kevan Barlow, which worries me.
However, when trying to deciced on a RB6, it is between Derrick Blaylock, Cedric Cobbs, and Musa Smith for me, and I like Musa's situation the best at the moment.
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mr. furley
Footballguy
ATT YDS TD LG
J. Lewis 18 78 1 27
M. Anderson 7 25 0 8
M. Smith 2 6 0 6
J. Lewis 18 78 1 27
M. Anderson 7 25 0 8
M. Smith 2 6 0 6
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