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Who is the first team that beats Altanta? (1 Viewer)

Bracie Smathers

Bracie Smathers

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I don't have a thing against Atlanta and don't want to jinx them but I don't think they go thru the entire 2012 season unbeaten.

This Sunday they play Dallas and I don't have strong feelings that Dallas will upset them and the Boys haven't exactly lit up the league this year and DeMarco is out and their O-line is beat up but I just had the odd thought that they could beat Atlanta this week. I don't know if it will happen and don't really care one way or the other but I thought I'd throw it out there and see what others think about when or if Atlanta will lose and who to?

Just for the heck of it I think they 'could' actually fall to Dallas this week.

In a completely unrelated thought that I don't want to start a new thread on but just wanted to throw out there.

I think Joe Philbin is doing a good job down in Miami and his absence may have been the reason the Packers had a lack luster start to this year and why Aarron Rodgers struggled till recently. I think he's a big part of why Tannenhill has come around much quicker than I expected.

 
according to the super efficient sports betting market, they'll lose to Dallas around 36% of the time(although math isn't my strong suit and I did the math really quickly in my head)

 
Atlanta will not lose to Dallas at home. Sorry Cowboy fans - someone is going to beat the Falcons this season - but it aint gonna be the Cowboys. The Falcons lost 2 games at home last season - one to the Packers who went on to a 15-1 record and to the Saints in OT who were 13-3. The Saints and Pack were the two highest scoring offense last year. Dallas is one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league this season - there are only 5 teams who have scored fewer points than the Cowboys.

I think we are going to have to wait to December to see the Falcons lost in Atlanta.

 
The most likely team to be the first team to beat Atlanta is the Cowboys (39%). The next most likely team is the Saints (20.6%), followed by the Bucs and Cardinals. I'd put the Giants odds of being the first to beat Atlanta at just 5%, and give the Falcons only a 2.4% chance of going undefeated.

 
'DoubleG said:
Atlanta will not lose to Dallas at home. Sorry Cowboy fans - someone is going to beat the Falcons this season - but it aint gonna be the Cowboys. The Falcons lost 2 games at home last season - one to the Packers who went on to a 15-1 record and to the Saints in OT who were 13-3. The Saints and Pack were the two highest scoring offense last year. Dallas is one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league this season - there are only 5 teams who have scored fewer points than the Cowboys. I think we are going to have to wait to December to see the Falcons lost in Atlanta.
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I have to agree with this.
 
'Toxic Gatorade said:
I hate the Cowpukes, but this is the week that ATL loses.......
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:goodposting: Been saying the same thing, I think Dallas is due for one of those games were they get the breaks and I think they hand Atlanta the first loss. I think Dallas wins handily.
 
'Chase Stuart said:
The most likely team to be the first team to beat Atlanta is the Cowboys (39%). The next most likely team is the Saints (20.6%), followed by the Bucs and Cardinals. I'd put the Giants odds of being the first to beat Atlanta at just 5%, and give the Falcons only a 2.4% chance of going undefeated.
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Can I ask what you are basing these numbers on? Or is it simply the decending probability that each succesive team has a lesser chance as they play them later? I guess the more specific question is how do have Dallas at 39% as a starting point?
 
'DoubleG said:
Atlanta will not lose to Dallas at home. Sorry Cowboy fans - someone is going to beat the Falcons this season - but it aint gonna be the Cowboys. The Falcons lost 2 games at home last season - one to the Packers who went on to a 15-1 record and to the Saints in OT who were 13-3. The Saints and Pack were the two highest scoring offense last year. Dallas is one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league this season - there are only 5 teams who have scored fewer points than the Cowboys. I think we are going to have to wait to December to see the Falcons lost in Atlanta.
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Green Bay will not lose to Kansas City...Kansas City is one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league last season - there was only one team who scored fewer points than the Chiefs.Simply put...any given Sunday...and its not as if the Cowboys don't have some talent.They hung with Baltimore (when Balt was good)...beat the Giants once and were fingertips away from beating them again.
 
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Dallas defence matches up nicely with the Atlanta offense. However, the Atlanta defense is criminally underrated. It is going to be a tough task for the mistake prone Dallas offense to muster many points against the Atlanta defense. My guess is it will be a low scoring affair and the game will probably be decided on another Dallas miscue.

 
The first team that realize that Atlanta is one denominational and can't run the ball and has a D line to put the pressure on Matt Ryan with a great secondary.

 
'Donnybrook said:
'BigTex said:
The first team that realize that Atlanta is one denominational and can't run the ball and has a D line to put the pressure on Matt Ryan with a great secondary.
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News to me. :)
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who is that exactly? Chicago? while NYG might have the Dline to do it the secondary is not clicking. What teams are doing to detroit is something that might work vs Atl, two deep zone 6 in the box and basically daring DET to run the ball. ATls second n thrid passing options are way better than detroits though so it probably wont work.

the issue with ATL before was that they seemd to run it, just to run it and every seemed tipped of as to when they were.

 
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'Donnybrook said:
'BigTex said:
The first team that realize that Atlanta is one denominational and can't run the ball and has a D line to put the pressure on Matt Ryan with a great secondary.
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News to me. :)
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who is that exactly? Chicago? while NYG might have the Dline to do it the secondary is not clicking. What teams are doing to detroit is something that might work vs Atl, two deep zone 6 in the box and basically daring DET to run the ball. ATls second n thrid passing options are way better than detroits though so it probably wont work.

the issue with ATL before was that they seemd to run it, just to run it and every seemed tipped of as to when they were.
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Sorry I was just pointing out the terrible spelling.de·nom·i·na·tion·al

Adjective:Relating to or according to the principles of a particular religious denomination: "denominational relief agencies".

 
'Donnybrook said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'Donnybrook said:
'BigTex said:
The first team that realize that Atlanta is one denominational and can't run the ball and has a D line to put the pressure on Matt Ryan with a great secondary.
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News to me. :)
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who is that exactly? Chicago? while NYG might have the Dline to do it the secondary is not clicking. What teams are doing to detroit is something that might work vs Atl, two deep zone 6 in the box and basically daring DET to run the ball. ATls second n thrid passing options are way better than detroits though so it probably wont work.

the issue with ATL before was that they seemd to run it, just to run it and every seemed tipped of as to when they were.
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Sorry I was just pointing out the terrible spelling.de·nom·i·na·tion·al

Adjective:Relating to or according to the principles of a particular religious denomination: "denominational relief agencies".
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I lol'ed at it haha. Dimensional, bro, dimensional.
 
Dallas usually plays well when little is expected of them, and struggles when a lot is expected of them (see: getting shellacked on the road at Seattle after winning at NYG Week 1), so I suspect they will play well tomorrow at Atlanta, but they won't win. I'll say 27-24 Atlanta.

 
'DoubleG said:
Atlanta will not lose to Dallas at home. Sorry Cowboy fans - someone is going to beat the Falcons this season - but it aint gonna be the Cowboys. The Falcons lost 2 games at home last season - one to the Packers who went on to a 15-1 record and to the Saints in OT who were 13-3. The Saints and Pack were the two highest scoring offense last year. Dallas is one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league this season - there are only 5 teams who have scored fewer points than the Cowboys. I think we are going to have to wait to December to see the Falcons lost in Atlanta.
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Why don't you put 100k on it if you are so sure? :rolleyes:
 
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Obviously they won't go undefeated, very good chance they lose to Dallas.

Dallas already beat a better Saints team in a similar situation if you remember.

 
'DoubleG said:
'Chase Stuart said:
The most likely team to be the first team to beat Atlanta is the Cowboys (39%). The next most likely team is the Saints (20.6%), followed by the Bucs and Cardinals. I'd put the Giants odds of being the first to beat Atlanta at just 5%, and give the Falcons only a 2.4% chance of going undefeated.
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Can I ask what you are basing these numbers on? Or is it simply the decending probability that each succesive team has a lesser chance as they play them later? I guess the more specific question is how do have Dallas at 39% as a starting point?
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I don't know where the 39% comes from (Vegas odds?) but I definitely agree that the team that is playing them the current week has the best chance to beat them, since no other team will be playing them that week.
 
'KingK said:
'DoubleG said:
Atlanta will not lose to Dallas at home. Sorry Cowboy fans - someone is going to beat the Falcons this season - but it aint gonna be the Cowboys. The Falcons lost 2 games at home last season - one to the Packers who went on to a 15-1 record and to the Saints in OT who were 13-3. The Saints and Pack were the two highest scoring offense last year. Dallas is one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league this season - there are only 5 teams who have scored fewer points than the Cowboys. I think we are going to have to wait to December to see the Falcons lost in Atlanta.
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Why don't you put 100k on it if you are so sure? :rolleyes:
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Dude, I'm an FBG - I put 100k that some nancy with less than 100 posts would rip my post. :thanks: :moneybag:
 
With Spoon out the odds of Dallas being the team definitely improved.

But my guess would be a game on the road.

The Saints week 10 or the Bucs week 12

I will go with the Bucs

 
'KingK said:
Obviously they won't go undefeated, very good chance they lose to Dallas.Dallas already beat a better Saints team in a similar situation if you remember.
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hrm you wouldn't happen to be a Dallas fan would you? Vegas has already said that Dallas wins this game 1 in 3 chances. I don't know that you can call that a "very good chance" I mean, "why don't you put 100k on it if you're so sure" :lol:
 
Dallas has the best shot to be the first.

But my bet as to when it actually happens is on NO in Week 10.

Atlanta seems to have a ridiculously easy schedule ahead, with only the Giants providing a tough test, and with Dallas and Tampa Bay providing fair to middling competition.

I think this game vs Dallas is going to be closer than most people think, and that Dallas rallies to keep up through the game. But Dallas is playing like a team that is truly broken right now -- they were a finger away from beating the Giants last week, and rather than being a rallying point, I think that loss may have been one more heavy stone on the team's psyche, one more reminder of how far this team has fallen and how much they have lost their identity as a team.

I think finding ways to lose games is now in Dallas's -- and Tomy Romo's -- head, and playing Atlanta at home I can see them getting rattled easy and losing focus when the game is on the line.

So if Dallas doesn't beat them, then I'm all in for NO beating Atlanta on the road. Everything about that game screams trap, and while NO is truly a cruddy team right now, I still enormously respect Brees' ability and they still have a lot of offensive talent still on NO.

Can easily see ATL come off a hard-fought win against Dallas, and looking past the woeful Saints (and even past the Cards who they play the following week at home) to the road game against Tampa, which ostensibly on paper is the hardest matchup of the 3.

 
'Ghost Rider said:
Dallas usually plays well when little is expected of them, and struggles when a lot is expected of them (see: getting shellacked on the road at Seattle after winning at NYG Week 1), so I suspect they will play well tomorrow at Atlanta, but they won't win. I'll say 27-24 Atlanta.
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Here in Cow Country you would think it is the SB tonight. A LOT is expected of them. Falcons usually have to play the Cows when they have some kind of mental edge going for them..... (hard to see that Dallas wins though...)
 
'texasbirdfan said:
'Ghost Rider said:
Dallas usually plays well when little is expected of them, and struggles when a lot is expected of them (see: getting shellacked on the road at Seattle after winning at NYG Week 1), so I suspect they will play well tomorrow at Atlanta, but they won't win. I'll say 27-24 Atlanta.
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Here in Cow Country you would think it is the SB tonight. A LOT is expected of them. Falcons usually have to play the Cows when they have some kind of mental edge going for them..... (hard to see that Dallas wins though...)
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I meant nationally. I am sure the average Cowboys fan in Texas thinks they could/should win just about every game.
 
'lod01 said:
If it was at NY, I'd say the Giants.I'll go with undefeated.
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NYG plays better on the road.I'm a huge Falcons fan, and I don't think we'll go undefeated. Our pass rush is so bad-- Eli/Brees/Freeman could totally just stand back there all day and launch bombs.
 
'KingK said:
'DoubleG said:
Atlanta will not lose to Dallas at home. Sorry Cowboy fans - someone is going to beat the Falcons this season - but it aint gonna be the Cowboys. The Falcons lost 2 games at home last season - one to the Packers who went on to a 15-1 record and to the Saints in OT who were 13-3. The Saints and Pack were the two highest scoring offense last year. Dallas is one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league this season - there are only 5 teams who have scored fewer points than the Cowboys. I think we are going to have to wait to December to see the Falcons lost in Atlanta.
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Why don't you put 100k on it if you are so sure? :rolleyes:
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:coffee:
 
'DoubleG said:
'KingK said:
'DoubleG said:
Atlanta will not lose to Dallas at home. Sorry Cowboy fans - someone is going to beat the Falcons this season - but it aint gonna be the Cowboys. The Falcons lost 2 games at home last season - one to the Packers who went on to a 15-1 record and to the Saints in OT who were 13-3. The Saints and Pack were the two highest scoring offense last year. Dallas is one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league this season - there are only 5 teams who have scored fewer points than the Cowboys. I think we are going to have to wait to December to see the Falcons lost in Atlanta.
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Why don't you put 100k on it if you are so sure? :rolleyes:
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Dude, I'm an FBG - I put 100k that some nancy with less than 100 posts would rip my post. :thanks: :moneybag:
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:own3d: Welcome to the Shark Pool. That was awesome!!
 
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True, but it just seemed like Dallas couldn't get them off the field on 3rd down. Atlanta was 7/14 (Which is good) on 3rd downs it seemed like they had done better than that, maybe they got most of the 7 in the 2nd half. Dallas should have gone to the no huddle earlier maybe.

 
'Chase Stuart said:
Updated odds:New Orleans with a 39% chance; Atlanta has a 3.3% chance of going undefeatedhttp://www.footballperspective.com/checkdowns-updating-atlantas-odds-of-going-undefeated/
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If they get by the Saints (both times), I think that the Lions or Tampa (2nd game) will be where they lose. Not sure if they have been in a position to sit starters in the past under Mike Smith, but realistically, they would likely sit Ryan, White, Turner and Gonzo (due to age), and likely Julio too. In their mind, they could put out a proper product with McCown at QB, Rodgers at RB, Douglas at WR and maybe keep Julio out there. Not that they would be world beaters, but they at least would have a lineup that is comparable to teams like the Jets or the Jags (minus the TE). While I see that the Saints have a great chance due to the fact they are playing better and have the opportunity to play ATL twice, the Falcons are running on all cylinders and I just don't see that with the Saints. The Falcons have to the tools to win both a barnburner and a closely played defensive game, and honestly, I feel they are one of the most well-rounded dominant teams we have seen in a while.
 
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