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Who is the first team that beats Altanta? (1 Viewer)
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Picklepete
Footballguy
I agree. And I'll be there !But I also think New Orleans might bite them in the butt this wk too.
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DoubleG
Footballguy
Honestly, I don't think NO has the defense to slow them down enough. I also don't think TB has the offense (especially in the passing game) to keep up with Atlanta. The NY football Giants are the best bet, imho. If I were a bettting man, that's where my money would go. Statistically, NO has a better chance as they play them twice - sure, I get that. But the best team that they play is the Giants. The interesting thing is they play them in Atlanta. If the Giants pass rush can't get home early and often, even that could get ugly quick, given NYG's DBs.Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Another "landslide," I'm sure.
two_dollars
Footballguy
Any team can beat any other team, any given sunday. How many times have we seen this happen?
Insein
Footballguy
Odds are someone will beat them in the remaining 8 games for sure. Just looking at those teams and there a no games that just shout loss though.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
The streak stops Sunday
DoubleG
Footballguy
People were saying that about the Bears/Titans game after the Bears almost lost to Carolina the week before. Just sayin'.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Saints >>>>> Titansoh...andId put the Bears above the Falcons right now.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Another great game in the most underrated rivalry in the NFL.
40-45-0 all time. Both teams have had some heartbreakers. The Haily Mary. The inadevrtent whistle. 62-7. Hartley missing from sneezing distance in 2010. I'm sure the Falcons have their unfavorites.
Saints have won 6 of last 7, 10 of last 12.
Both team's fans travel in large numbers. Mutual dislike here in the stands and on the field.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=nor&tm2=atl&yr=all
Most of the games in the last 10 years have been decided by 8 points or less, often a FG or less over the years.
Not making predictions, but yes our defense is atrocious. We won't be getting any Vick freebies in this one.
I'll be in that number.
40-45-0 all time. Both teams have had some heartbreakers. The Haily Mary. The inadevrtent whistle. 62-7. Hartley missing from sneezing distance in 2010. I'm sure the Falcons have their unfavorites.
Saints have won 6 of last 7, 10 of last 12.
Both team's fans travel in large numbers. Mutual dislike here in the stands and on the field.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=nor&tm2=atl&yr=all
Most of the games in the last 10 years have been decided by 8 points or less, often a FG or less over the years.
Not making predictions, but yes our defense is atrocious. We won't be getting any Vick freebies in this one.
I'll be in that number.
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I'll put my money on the field (not someone "likely" to beat them). Nobody was expecting KC to threaten the Pack last year but they shut 'em down hard by dropping 7 into coverage and rushing the QB effectively with 4. The Falcons will face a team that game-plans properly and has the personnel to execute it, and we probably won't see it coming. These are all NFL teams ... any given Sunday baby.Everyone gets so worked up about projecting the winner and formulating the correct analysis for why a situation happened... I really think that takes away from the beauty of the game. Watch and enjoy.'DoubleG said:'Insein said:
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Bobby Guano
Footballguy
N.O. takes em down this week.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Saints Win.
Saints now 7-1, 11-2 (including a loss on a late missed Hartley FG from XP range) vs the Falcons dirty birds.
Playoff picture:
After the failcons, Bears, 9ers, Giants:
5 Green Bay North 6-3-0
6 Seattle West 6-4-0
Still Alive
7 Minnesota North 6-4-0
8 Tampa Bay South 5-4-0
9 New Orleans South 4-5-0
10 Dallas East 4-5-0
11 Detroit North 4-5-0
12 Arizona West 4-5-0
Saints now 7-1, 11-2 (including a loss on a late missed Hartley FG from XP range) vs the Falcons dirty birds.
Playoff picture:
After the failcons, Bears, 9ers, Giants:
5 Green Bay North 6-3-0
6 Seattle West 6-4-0
Still Alive
7 Minnesota North 6-4-0
8 Tampa Bay South 5-4-0
9 New Orleans South 4-5-0
10 Dallas East 4-5-0
11 Detroit North 4-5-0
12 Arizona West 4-5-0
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saintsfan
Footballguy
Seems like the same old story. Falcons do all the talking. Saints do all the walking.
Here's the thing. I said it last year. The Falcons desperately want to be the Saints on offense. One problem, Ryan is not in Brees' league. Ryan is TOO quick to take the check down. He's not aggressive enough throwing the ball down the field. IMO, he doesn't have a real good arm. Maybe it's coaching, I don't know. I do know that if Drew Brees was QBing a team with White, Jones, and Gonzo, they would be putting up 35 ppg.
Is there anybody who would take the Falcons in a playoff game in the Divisional Round against the Packers or the Giants?? I wouldn't. They are too passive. Too conservative.
Here's the thing. I said it last year. The Falcons desperately want to be the Saints on offense. One problem, Ryan is not in Brees' league. Ryan is TOO quick to take the check down. He's not aggressive enough throwing the ball down the field. IMO, he doesn't have a real good arm. Maybe it's coaching, I don't know. I do know that if Drew Brees was QBing a team with White, Jones, and Gonzo, they would be putting up 35 ppg.
Is there anybody who would take the Falcons in a playoff game in the Divisional Round against the Packers or the Giants?? I wouldn't. They are too passive. Too conservative.
saintfool
Dead sexy
i would agree with you to some extent. i don't think a ryan vs brees comparison is fair. they are asked to do different things. the schemes are different and the falcons are a far more balanced team in almost every facet of the game. the thing is this: the saints are very aggressive and play like it all the time. the falcons play a very controlled, deliberate style of football. i think some personnel changes will make a difference but they are largely the same team we've seen for a few years now.'saintsfan said:
DoubleG
Footballguy
Ummm...Ryan has a higher yards per attempt than Brees. Brees has 24 pass plays of over 25 yards - Ryan has 21 (despite having 23 fewer passing attempts than Brees). Rayn also has a better passer rating. And the game just played Ryan threw for 411 yards, while Brees only 298. What you are saying has been true in the past - but statistically doesn't hold up this season. BTW, much of the difference (even though much of it favors Ryan) can be attributed to the fact that the Falcons have been leading big and leading early in many of their games.'saintsfan said:
Rick James
Footballguy
Well, that's certainly an interesting stance to take after Matt Ryan just threw for 411 yards and 3 TDs. You would be correct about Ryan not throwing the ball deep enough if you were talking about 2008-2011, but Koetter and Ryan have re-tooled this Atlanta offense to be more of a vertical passing attack. Just look at Ryan's YPA. He started out at 7.9 in his rookie year, and it dipped to 6.5, 6.5, 7.2...and now is back up to 7.9. Brees' YPA for 2012 is 7.6, btw.'saintsfan said:
No doubt the Falcons passing attack is much improved. The Saints won (IMHO) because they ran theball better than the Falcons, which is ironic.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It's just funny that the Falcons have gone through all this trouble and expense:- Smith, + 2 new coordinators
- 1st rd pick (& then some) WR Jones
- 1st rd pick White
- 1st rd pick (3rd overall) QB Ryan
- the prize free agent RB of his FA class, Turner
- a big time coveted Sproles type RB coming out of the college draft
- 1st rd pick Baker at T
- acquisition of Hall of Famer TE Gonzo
- Abraham, Edwards, Samuel, Robinson, Weatherspoon on defense, oh so many stars!
And they are OWNED by the Saints:
- WRs filled by aging limited skill vet Henderson, 7th round pick Colston, undrafted free agent Moore
- power forward at TE
- a "bust" at RB plus 2 undrafted free agents RBs
- an OLine with no 1st round draft picks, but a whole bunch of supposed "reaches" and free agents
- a has been QB passed over by Nick Saban himself for Daunte Culpepper
- the worst yardage defense in the NFL led by a guy the Falcs themselves cut loose at MLB Lofton and another LB with two bum wheels Vilma
And oh they used to be able to blame it on being out-coached by Sean Payton but now they just had it happen vs Joe Flippin' Vitt.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
You said it first.
Rick James
Footballguy
Well alright, let's not act like the Saints whooped up on the Falcons here. Poor redzone offense is the reason Atlanta lost, not some supernatural Drew Brees voodoo. They had to settle for a FG after Ryan threw that bomb to Julio in the 4th, and they had 3 shots at a TD from the 1 yard line and couldn't get it done.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
the fat in-effective turner showed up.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
C'mon, again:
Saints have won 8 out of 9 and 11 out of 13. One of those was decided for the Falcs on a missed chip shot would be winner by Hartley (but for that it would be 9-0, 12-1). And most have been just like that, close. This is how these games go.
It's a great rivalry, the league should feature it more (and it never gets ranked with the Pats/Jets and those games), but the fact is the Saints have owned them, good year, bad year, high, low, whatever, since Payton came to town. Not 'owned' as in destroyed and obliterated, but 'owned' like the Saints are in their head and the Falcs can't seem to win no matter what. And now even with Vitt.
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I'm a huge Falcons fan. Have been for over 20 years.
In the past 5 or so years, since the Falcons have improved, there are two teams I'm afraid to play. Green Bay and New Orleans. For some reason, Brees and Rodgers just tear our defense apart. They just drive it down our throat, over and over. Basically when they have the ball, I hope for some sort of fluke turnover, because our defense just cannot pressure them enough as they pick our secondary apart.
Sunday was basically the same. I knew it would be like that going into the game, but I just hoped that maybe this year was different. With that said though, the Saints have got to feel coming out of there with a victory as opposed to being the more dominant team like in the past. Ryan tore up their defense even though they knew the Falcons were throwing every single down.
Hopefully we can win at home, but again when that Sunday comes, I'll be praying we can just slow down Brees somehow.
As far as playoffs go, I don't want to see Green Bay. I feel we could beat any other NFC team, especially at home, but the Packers just scare me. These are my feelings, not facts.
In the past 5 or so years, since the Falcons have improved, there are two teams I'm afraid to play. Green Bay and New Orleans. For some reason, Brees and Rodgers just tear our defense apart. They just drive it down our throat, over and over. Basically when they have the ball, I hope for some sort of fluke turnover, because our defense just cannot pressure them enough as they pick our secondary apart.
Sunday was basically the same. I knew it would be like that going into the game, but I just hoped that maybe this year was different. With that said though, the Saints have got to feel coming out of there with a victory as opposed to being the more dominant team like in the past. Ryan tore up their defense even though they knew the Falcons were throwing every single down.
Hopefully we can win at home, but again when that Sunday comes, I'll be praying we can just slow down Brees somehow.
As far as playoffs go, I don't want to see Green Bay. I feel we could beat any other NFC team, especially at home, but the Packers just scare me. These are my feelings, not facts.
