road warrior
Footballguy
As soon as the Moss trade broke, I get a trade proposal. MSW for Brandon Tate (on my Dynasty Taxi Squad). Ummm, no!
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Who likes MSW as a buy low candidate? (1 Viewer)
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As soon as the Moss trade broke, I get a trade proposal. MSW for Brandon Tate (on my Dynasty Taxi Squad). Ummm, no!
MAC_32
Footballguy
I realize the love for this guy before he broke out was a little ridiculous, but the distaste for him since November last year has more than trumped that.
I've pitched some offers, guy's a talent stuck in an offense with a QB that can't read the field. He may be a headache this season, but if they clean house and get a capable QB in next season I think Sims Walker steps up.
I've pitched some offers, guy's a talent stuck in an offense with a QB that can't read the field. He may be a headache this season, but if they clean house and get a capable QB in next season I think Sims Walker steps up.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
He's 25, he's talented, and his situation can only get better.
I got him today in a dynasty league for Fred Jackson.
I got him today in a dynasty league for Fred Jackson.
Last season's #'s were kind of a fluke, here's what I mean
JAX Red zone study: 09
- Holt couldn't seem to catch anything in the RZ, and MSW had 9 more targets than the next receivers/TE = production for MSW in 09.
goal line to goal line: 09
-Targets were fairly similar for Holt and MSW, but MSW had 12 more receptions, hence better yards.
-MSW had 50 more targets than Mike Thomas and Lewis, and only 2 of MSW's touchdowns were longer than 20 yds.
*granted, a smaller sample size but as of this post...
2010 red zone study:
Lewis leads the red zone targets w 3, converting 2 for td's
thomas and msw are tied for 2 targets
2010 study (Goal line to goal line)
Thomas beats MSW in: yds/rec, yards, targets, rec, and rec %
Lewis is tied with MSW for rec on fewer targets, and has the same # of yards (-1 yd)
*seems to me the coaches figured this out in the offseason and are looking to spread the ball more evenly.
2010 MSW is not the same as the 09 model. I sold him *real* high.
JAX Red zone study: 09
- Holt couldn't seem to catch anything in the RZ, and MSW had 9 more targets than the next receivers/TE = production for MSW in 09.
goal line to goal line: 09
-Targets were fairly similar for Holt and MSW, but MSW had 12 more receptions, hence better yards.
-MSW had 50 more targets than Mike Thomas and Lewis, and only 2 of MSW's touchdowns were longer than 20 yds.
*granted, a smaller sample size but as of this post...
2010 red zone study:
Lewis leads the red zone targets w 3, converting 2 for td's
thomas and msw are tied for 2 targets
2010 study (Goal line to goal line)
Thomas beats MSW in: yds/rec, yards, targets, rec, and rec %
Lewis is tied with MSW for rec on fewer targets, and has the same # of yards (-1 yd)
*seems to me the coaches figured this out in the offseason and are looking to spread the ball more evenly.
2010 MSW is not the same as the 09 model. I sold him *real* high.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Mike Sims-Walker 2010 = Michael Clayton 2005.
The sooner you realize that and dump MSW for Mike Thomas, the better off you will be.
The sooner you realize that and dump MSW for Mike Thomas, the better off you will be.
MU Seminole
Footballguy
In dynasty, he's a 25 y/o who's a FA after this season. If one has held him this long, now is not the time to sell or drop him.
In a redraft, he's going to be very inconsistent. In a dynasty, I still like him. He is a FA after this season, and there aren't many places worse than Jax right now for a WR. If he stays, there's a decent chance they clean house and bring in a new QB and/or coaching staff, which can only help him.
depends on your roster size. my keeper league is 15 deep ... and 13 of those guys start every week for me. with byes and injuries, i just can't afford to carry him any more.
flooredyas
Footballguy
kingmalaki
Footballguy
I dropped him for Mike Wallace.
Routilla
Footballguy
Hard to believe MW is not rostered in the 12 team league from your sig. Amazing really.
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I think he needs to go somewhere with a legit #1 WR.
The_U
Footballguy
Yeah seriously, WTH? I'm in zero leagues where Wallace wasn't a fairly high pick (upper mid rounds). You had to know what you were getting with Wallace too with Ben out a month. He's set to take off starting next week (6). He's Santonio Holmes in that offense, only better and with far greater brains in his head to boot.MSW is a drop in redraft if there's a guy out there you like. Dynasty stash and see what happens. Don't forget they can still tag him if they wish, which would tank him again unless they clean house on offensive staff (coaching) and personnel (Garrard).Routilla said:
netnalp
Footballguy
Mike Sims-Walker could be on the trading block, according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen.
Sims-Walker has two games with zero catches this year and is apparently losing snaps to Tiquan Underwood. A trade would make sense for both sides, although Sims-Walker wouldn't bring back anything more than a late-round pick. For now, leave MSW on your bench and see how this plays out.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx
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Sounded to me, Mort was implying MSW was disgruntled, but comments I've read from MSW show him as being a team player.
Sims-Walker has two games with zero catches this year and is apparently losing snaps to Tiquan Underwood. A trade would make sense for both sides, although Sims-Walker wouldn't bring back anything more than a late-round pick. For now, leave MSW on your bench and see how this plays out.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx
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Sounded to me, Mort was implying MSW was disgruntled, but comments I've read from MSW show him as being a team player.
Max Power
Footballguy
Morts been making claims all over the place this morning. How do we know which are legit?
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Bad fantasy advice. If MSW is really losing snaps to Tiquan Underwood (who??) and the Jags can't even find a buyer for a LATE round pick, then that tells me that MSW shouldn't be on your roster at all.
pghrob
Footballguy
One of the long standing norms here is that players are referred to by well known and generally accepted abbreviated names - quite often their initials.
ROBOPUNTER
Footballguy
Does MSimsW really help that much?
