Who should be the THIRD QB voted to the Pro Bowl... (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

Forget for a second who will actually play in the game. We know the QBs of the Super Bowl teams will not play in the Pro Bowl. And we know some other QBs will come up with mysterious "injuries" prior to the game.

This poll asks which QBs DESERVE to be voted in.

In the AFC, Brady and Big Ben are clearly the #1 and #2 options.

In the NFC, Rodgers and Brees are clearly the #1 and #2 options.

The #3 QB for the NFC, in particular, is a really interesting debate.

 

[Raider Nation]

I voted Tebow and Stafford, BTW. They are both on my fantasy team.

I am PRAYING (excuse the pun) that Tebow gets voted into the Pro Bowl. How funny will it be watching him go at it 120mph when the defense isn't even trying to tackle him??? He can't be tackled when the defense does try!

That will make for a nice over bet, as usual.

 

[Godsbrother]

I vote they do away with the Pro Bowl.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Rivers/Stafford

 

[unckeyherb]

I vote they do away with the Pro Bowl.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I vote they do away with the Pro Bowl.

Replace it with a video simulated fantasy game, where players "control" themselves on screen.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Why does the pro bowl offend so many people? If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's only for entertainment.

I voted Dalton and Eli, though after your Tebow commentary, I do have to agree.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Rivers and Stafford, although in reality the 3rd QB for the AFC should go to Romo, Eli, Ryan, or Cam because they all had better years than the 3rd best QB in the AFC

 

[FUBAR]

Off hand, i would consider

Cam

Tebow

Stafford

Smith (he's been playing well and winning)

Moore (no, but he's been a nice surprise)

Ryan

Tebow just over cam, Stafford easily.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Rivers and Eli, although you could make a good case for Schaub. Not sure why he was left off your list.

I don't get the Stafford over Eli crowd. I guess Stafford has pretty TD numbers, but Eli is averaging a full net yard per attempt more than him, with arguably a worse running game. And he doesn't have Megatron to throw to. Eli made Victor Cruz into a 1K receiver. He's been overrated in the past, but Manning's having his best season.

 

[Raider Nation]

Rivers and Eli, although you could make a good case for Schaub. Not sure why he was left off your list.

Because he has zero chance of playing in the game.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Rivers and Eli, although you could make a good case for Schaub. Not sure why he was left off your list.I don't get the Stafford over Eli crowd. I guess Stafford has pretty TD numbers, but Eli is averaging a full net yard per attempt more than him, with arguably a worse running game. And he doesn't have Megatron to throw to. Eli made Victor Cruz into a 1K receiver. He's been overrated in the past, but Manning's having his best season.

Good points, but the Lions running game is pretty bad too.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Dalton and Newton

 

[Dr. Octopus]

In the NFC I'd say it's a toss up between Manning and Stafford. Went with Manning since he has "less" weapons with the Giant injuries and since he stepped up in some big games.

If Rivers played all year like the last couple of weeks, he'd be an easy choice - but since he didn't its very tough as no one really stands out. I went with Dalton just to get some new blood in there and because he's been real impressive for a rookie in a tough division.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Rivers and Eli, although you could make a good case for Schaub. Not sure why he was left off your list.I don't get the Stafford over Eli crowd. I guess Stafford has pretty TD numbers, but Eli is averaging a full net yard per attempt more than him, with arguably a worse running game. And he doesn't have Megatron to throw to. Eli made Victor Cruz into a 1K receiver. He's been overrated in the past, but Manning's having his best season.

MegatronNicksCruzManninghamBurlesonYoungYeah, Mega is the best of the bunch but Eli's options as a whole are noticeably better than the Lions, at least IMO. Plus Stafford has put up those numbers with a broken finger for half of the year.

 

[solorca]

You have to assume that more than one of the options for both will get in. With the Pro Bowl happening before the Super Bowl now, either Rodgers or Brees should be replaced in the NFC, along with either Brady or Big Ben in the AFC.

I voted for Tebow and Cam. Without either of those players, their individual teams would be horrendous. Cam has turned a terrible offense into a very good one, while Tebow has has basically put a very average team on his back.

 

[solorca]

Off hand, i would considerCamTebowStafford Smith (he's been playing well and winning)Moore (no, but he's been a nice surprise)RyanTebow just over cam, Stafford easily.

Cam is in the NFC.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I voted Tebow and Stafford, BTW. They are both on my fantasy team.

I am PRAYING (excuse the pun) that Tebow gets voted into the Pro Bowl. How funny will it be watching him go at it 120mph when the defense isn't even trying to tackle him??? He can't be tackled when the defense does try!

That will make for a nice over bet, as usual.

Tebow won't play in the Pro Bowl once the Broncos make it to the Super Bowl. /destiny

 

[Kenny Powers]

In the NFC I'd say it's a toss up between Manning and Stafford. Went with Manning since he has "less" weapons with the Giant injuries and since he stepped up in some big games.If Rivers played all year like the last couple of weeks, he'd be an easy choice - but since he didn't its very tough as no one really stands out. I went with Dalton just to get some new blood in there and because he's been real impressive for a rookie in a tough division.

Rivers has certainly played better lately, but he's still 2nd in passing yard, 2nd in TDs (23), 3rd in completion % (63.4), 5th in YPA (8.0), 4th in QBR (89.4)Dalton is 6th in yards (over 1000 less than Rivers), 6th in TDs (18), 10th in comp % (59), 7th in YPA (6.8), 8th in QBR (81)I dont get all the love for Dalton over Rivers

 

[todisco1]

Rivers and Eli, although you could make a good case for Schaub. Not sure why he was left off your list.I don't get the Stafford over Eli crowd. I guess Stafford has pretty TD numbers, but Eli is averaging a full net yard per attempt more than him, with arguably a worse running game. And he doesn't have Megatron to throw to. Eli made Victor Cruz into a 1K receiver. He's been overrated in the past, but Manning's having his best season.

MegatronNicksCruzManninghamBurlesonYoungYeah, Mega is the best of the bunch but Eli's options as a whole are noticeably better than the Lions, at least IMO. Plus Stafford has put up those numbers with a broken finger for half of the year.

I think you have to add Pettigrew and Ballard in there as TEs, and then it's much closer IMO. Manninhgam is no special bonus.

 

[NeverEnough]

Gotta be Cam & Tebow. Stafford a close 2nd

 

[Kenny Powers]

Rivers and Eli, although you could make a good case for Schaub. Not sure why he was left off your list.I don't get the Stafford over Eli crowd. I guess Stafford has pretty TD numbers, but Eli is averaging a full net yard per attempt more than him, with arguably a worse running game. And he doesn't have Megatron to throw to. Eli made Victor Cruz into a 1K receiver. He's been overrated in the past, but Manning's having his best season.

MegatronNicksCruzManninghamBurlesonYoungYeah, Mega is the best of the bunch but Eli's options as a whole are noticeably better than the Lions, at least IMO. Plus Stafford has put up those numbers with a broken finger for half of the year.

I think you have to add Pettigrew and Ballard in there as TEs, and then it's much closer IMO. Manninhgam is no special bonus.

Is it?Pettigrew 67/581/4 with a 1st down percentage of 38.8%, 6 dropped passesBallard 38/604/4 with a 1st down percentage of 81.6%, 5 dropped passesIve actually been more impressed this year with Ballard than Pettigrew

 

[ZWK]

Schaub's injury really screws things up, because he was the obvious #3 in the AFC and there's not a lot behind him. I'd put Romo, Eli, Stafford, Ryan, and probably even Newton ahead of any of the AFC contenders. I guess Rivers wins out even in a down year because of the weak competition.

 

[FUBAR]

Off hand, i would considerCamTebowStafford Smith (he's been playing well and winning)Moore (no, but he's been a nice surprise)RyanTebow just over cam, Stafford easily.

Cam is in the NFC.

I probably shouldn't be replying on my phone while not really paying attention. Make that: Stafford just over cam, Tebow easily.

 

[TimTebow]

 

[Abraham]

Romo, stafford, or Eli.

Almost has to be dalton in the afc or rivers.

 

[sihaokills]

Eli is doing great this year. He has been dominating this year with great receiving corps. Stafford is probably right behind with all those big comebacks. Rivers is still doing pretty good without the picks. Dalton?? Come on

 

[Sarnoff]

Eli & Peyton.

 

[footballnerd]

voted for the two rookies

 

[Pipes]

Dalton and Newton

I guess I didn't think about how bad the AFC QB's are. Newton, Manning, Stafford and Romo deserve to be in before any of those AFC options.

 

[jon_mx]

My first thought as a joke was Tebow. But really, looking at the other QB's why not? You can make a pretty good case.

 

[treat88]

Tebow and Romo

 

[Pipes]

In the NFC I'd say it's a toss up between Manning and Stafford. Went with Manning since he has "less" weapons with the Giant injuries and since he stepped up in some big games.If Rivers played all year like the last couple of weeks, he'd be an easy choice - but since he didn't its very tough as no one really stands out. I went with Dalton just to get some new blood in there and because he's been real impressive for a rookie in a tough division.

Rivers has certainly played better lately, but he's still 2nd in passing yard, 2nd in TDs (23), 3rd in completion % (63.4), 5th in YPA (8.0), 4th in QBR (89.4)Dalton is 6th in yards (over 1000 less than Rivers), 6th in TDs (18), 10th in comp % (59), 7th in YPA (6.8), 8th in QBR (81)I dont get all the love for Dalton over Rivers

Because the Bengals have less talent than the Chargers but have a better record. Fair or not QB's get too much credit for wins and too much credit for losses and year in and year out the Chargers are chronic underachievers. The perception is the Rivers isn't a winner and puts up stats in meaningless games. Not saying its fair but that's why Rivers isn't viewed in higher regard.

 

[Kenny Powers]

In the NFC I'd say it's a toss up between Manning and Stafford. Went with Manning since he has "less" weapons with the Giant injuries and since he stepped up in some big games.If Rivers played all year like the last couple of weeks, he'd be an easy choice - but since he didn't its very tough as no one really stands out. I went with Dalton just to get some new blood in there and because he's been real impressive for a rookie in a tough division.

Rivers has certainly played better lately, but he's still 2nd in passing yard, 2nd in TDs (23), 3rd in completion % (63.4), 5th in YPA (8.0), 4th in QBR (89.4)Dalton is 6th in yards (over 1000 less than Rivers), 6th in TDs (18), 10th in comp % (59), 7th in YPA (6.8), 8th in QBR (81)I dont get all the love for Dalton over Rivers

Because the Bengals have less talent than the Chargers but have a better record. Fair or not QB's get too much credit for wins and too much credit for losses and year in and year out the Chargers are chronic underachievers. The perception is the Rivers isn't a winner and puts up stats in meaningless games. Not saying its fair but that's why Rivers isn't viewed in higher regard.

When it comes to MVP voting, I'll take into account record but noting with pro bowl voting. Gotta go with talent/numbers. I think the perception is that Rivers is having a bad year because of their record and his INTs, but his actual numbers speak otherwise.I dont know that Id even say CIN has less talent either. AJ Green is the best receiver for either team, Im not so sure Floyd or Brown are any better than Simpson, and Gates didnt play for like 8-10 weeks. Benson and Mathews playing 75% of SD's is also pretty much a wash.ETA: And if youre using the logic you are, I dont see how a good case can be made for putting in Dalton over Tebow

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Stafford/Rivers.

Though I bet Tebow wins this poll. Hell a few weeks ago NFLN did a poll and 62% of the respondents said Tebow should win the MVP?

Tebow wasn't even eligible for the QBR after like 4-5 weeks of play because he didn't attempt enough passes. You wanna put that guy in the pro bowl? He still hasn't even had a 300 yard game.

 

[FUBAR]

Stafford/Rivers.Though I bet Tebow wins this poll. Hell a few weeks ago NFLN did a poll and 62% of the respondents said Tebow should win the MVP? Tebow wasn't even eligible for the QBR after like 4-5 weeks of play because he didn't attempt enough passes. You wanna put that guy in the pro bowl? He still hasn't even had a 300 yard game.

He isn't among the best passers, but as a player he deserves the recognition more than the rest.

 

[AmosMoses]

Tebow for both conferences.

 

[Jimboozie]

lol at rivers. dude leads the league in picks, his team chokes away games, and he hasn't been him same old self until the last couple weeks of the season.

stafford and tebow tho.

eli and big ben are certainly deserving, but i hate those guys. do people in new york even like eli?

 

[glumpy]

I voted Tebow and Stafford, BTW. They are both on my fantasy team.

I am PRAYING (excuse the pun) that Tebow gets voted into the Pro Bowl. How funny will it be watching him go at it 120mph when the defense isn't even trying to tackle him??? He can't be tackled when the defense does try!

That will make for a nice over bet, as usual.

That would be a gas! Went with Tebow myself because he's obviously had such an impact for his team. Why the "Richard" though?NFC is tough. Carolina fan but Cam should get rookie honors and they're still not winning. Ryan is really playing solid in Hotlanta...

I went with Romo since he's on my team with Tebow (lol) but really think it should be whichever QB wins that division between him and Eli.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Tebow for both conferences.

It would be the only fair thing to do.

 

[Kirby]

In the NFC I'd say it's a toss up between Manning and Stafford. Went with Manning since he has "less" weapons with the Giant injuries and since he stepped up in some big games.If Rivers played all year like the last couple of weeks, he'd be an easy choice - but since he didn't its very tough as no one really stands out. I went with Dalton just to get some new blood in there and because he's been real impressive for a rookie in a tough division.

Rivers has certainly played better lately, but he's still 2nd in passing yard, 2nd in TDs (23), 3rd in completion % (63.4), 5th in YPA (8.0), 4th in QBR (89.4)Dalton is 6th in yards (over 1000 less than Rivers), 6th in TDs (18), 10th in comp % (59), 7th in YPA (6.8), 8th in QBR (81)I dont get all the love for Dalton over Rivers

Because the Bengals have less talent than the Chargers but have a better record. Fair or not QB's get too much credit for wins and too much credit for losses and year in and year out the Chargers are chronic underachievers. The perception is the Rivers isn't a winner and puts up stats in meaningless games. Not saying its fair but that's why Rivers isn't viewed in higher regard.

When it comes to MVP voting, I'll take into account record but noting with pro bowl voting. Gotta go with talent/numbers. I think the perception is that Rivers is having a bad year because of their record and his INTs, but his actual numbers speak otherwise.I dont know that Id even say CIN has less talent either. AJ Green is the best receiver for either team, Im not so sure Floyd or Brown are any better than Simpson, and Gates didnt play for like 8-10 weeks. Benson and Mathews playing 75% of SD's is also pretty much a wash.ETA: And if youre using the logic you are, I dont see how a good case can be made for putting in Dalton over Tebow

Dalton's a 2nd round pick playing with guys he just met... no offseason... and he's doing this well. + Simpson can't catch.

 

[Godsbrother]

Why does the pro bowl offend so many people? If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's only for entertainment.

No offended by it just saying that it sucks. It is an all-star game where the best players don't play and they drastically change the rules of the game. Other than that it is great.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Stafford/Rivers.Though I bet Tebow wins this poll. Hell a few weeks ago NFLN did a poll and 62% of the respondents said Tebow should win the MVP? Tebow wasn't even eligible for the QBR after like 4-5 weeks of play because he didn't attempt enough passes. You wanna put that guy in the pro bowl? He still hasn't even had a 300 yard game.

He isn't among the best passers, but as a player he deserves the recognition more than the rest.

"deserves the recognition"? Tebow is a great team leader. If this was the NFL he'd win the Lady Bing award hands down. But this is is the pro bowl. It is by definition an individual award, ergo you look at the individual stats. And his individual stats are mediocre at best. There is no way in the world that he deserves the award more than almost anyone else listed above save Colt McCoy and Josh Freeman.Despite what the media has led you to believe Tebow did not win 7 games in a row. THE BRONCOS won 7 games in a row.

 

[The_Man]

Tebow for both conferences.

It would be the only fair thing to do.

You could make him the "full-time QB" like in a game of touch football with an odd number of players. He'd be up for it

 

[gandalas]

In the NFC, there are a BUNCH of guys that are deserving...

Cam Newton - Just about the best season by a rookie EVER.

Tony Romo - On pace for his best season. 30 TDs vs only 13 Turnovers.

Eli Manning - His best season.

Matt Stafford - His best season.

Voted Romo out of these...

 

[FUBAR]

Stafford/Rivers.Though I bet Tebow wins this poll. Hell a few weeks ago NFLN did a poll and 62% of the respondents said Tebow should win the MVP? Tebow wasn't even eligible for the QBR after like 4-5 weeks of play because he didn't attempt enough passes. You wanna put that guy in the pro bowl? He still hasn't even had a 300 yard game.

He isn't among the best passers, but as a player he deserves the recognition more than the rest.

"deserves the recognition"? Tebow is a great team leader. If this was the NFL he'd win the Lady Bing award hands down. But this is is the pro bowl. It is by definition an individual award, ergo you look at the individual stats. And his individual stats are mediocre at best. There is no way in the world that he deserves the award more than almost anyone else listed above save Colt McCoy and Josh Freeman.Despite what the media has led you to believe Tebow did not win 7 games in a row. THE BRONCOS won 7 games in a row.

It's not just about stats. He personally has done more for his team than any QB in the AFC except Ben and Brady.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Romo and Stafford and Newton are all better than what the AFC has to offer - but from the choices Tebow gets the nod ofver Dalton. Sure Rivers is playing decent now - but he singlehandedly put the Chargers in a hole with his 6 games of misery.

I guess I go Stafford and Tebow. Since Big Ben is hurt I'll probably go with Dalton as his replacement.

 

[Raider Nation]

Went with Tebow myself because he's obviously had such an impact for his team. Why the "Richard" though?

Because that's his name.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

In the NFC I'd say it's a toss up between Manning and Stafford. Went with Manning since he has "less" weapons with the Giant injuries and since he stepped up in some big games.If Rivers played all year like the last couple of weeks, he'd be an easy choice - but since he didn't its very tough as no one really stands out. I went with Dalton just to get some new blood in there and because he's been real impressive for a rookie in a tough division.

Rivers has certainly played better lately, but he's still 2nd in passing yard, 2nd in TDs (23), 3rd in completion % (63.4), 5th in YPA (8.0), 4th in QBR (89.4)Dalton is 6th in yards (over 1000 less than Rivers), 6th in TDs (18), 10th in comp % (59), 7th in YPA (6.8), 8th in QBR (81)I dont get all the love for Dalton over Rivers

Sure Rivers probably "deserves" it over Dalton based on stats (although I notice you left out another category where Rivers ranks No. 1, interceptions) - but it just doesn't feel like a Pro Bowl year for him. As I said, my vote was more to get some new blood in there. Maybe not the fairest method.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

In the NFC I'd say it's a toss up between Manning and Stafford. Went with Manning since he has "less" weapons with the Giant injuries and since he stepped up in some big games.If Rivers played all year like the last couple of weeks, he'd be an easy choice - but since he didn't its very tough as no one really stands out. I went with Dalton just to get some new blood in there and because he's been real impressive for a rookie in a tough division.

Rivers has certainly played better lately, but he's still 2nd in passing yard, 2nd in TDs (23), 3rd in completion % (63.4), 5th in YPA (8.0), 4th in QBR (89.4)Dalton is 6th in yards (over 1000 less than Rivers), 6th in TDs (18), 10th in comp % (59), 7th in YPA (6.8), 8th in QBR (81)I dont get all the love for Dalton over Rivers

Rivers is a bit of a Richard, so all other things being equal I usually vote against him.