Who's the worst head coach (1 Viewer)

[dhockster]

Wade Phillips: 11 years head coach, 82-60 record, 1-5 Playoff record, 5 playoff appearances, 0 Super Bowls

Mike Shanahan: 17 years head coach, 150-102 record, 8-5 Playoff record, 7 playoff appearances, 2 Super Bowl wins (1-5 playoff record in non-superbowl seasons)

Brad Childress: 5 years head coach, 38-33 record, 1-2 Playoff record, 2 playoff appearances, 0 Super Bowls

Only these three are listed because of what has transpired in the last week. Who's the worst head coach of these three?

 

[Lehigh98]

Wade Phillips: 11 years head coach, 82-60 record, 1-5 Playoff record, 5 playoff appearances, 0 Super BowlsMike Shanahan: 17 years head coach, 150-102 record, 8-5 Playoff record, 7 playoff appearances, 2 Super Bowl wins (1-5 playoff record in non-superbowl seasons)Brad Childress: 5 years head coach, 38-33 record, 1-2 Playoff record, 2 playoff appearances, 0 Super BowlsAll three are having seasons they would probably like to start over. Who's the worst head coach?

You listed their bodies of work, are we voting based on that or who is worst right now?

 

[Concept Coop]

Childress is the easy answer. Shanahan does not belong on a list with the other two.

 

[dhockster]

Wade Phillips: 11 years head coach, 82-60 record, 1-5 Playoff record, 5 playoff appearances, 0 Super BowlsMike Shanahan: 17 years head coach, 150-102 record, 8-5 Playoff record, 7 playoff appearances, 2 Super Bowl wins (1-5 playoff record in non-superbowl seasons)Brad Childress: 5 years head coach, 38-33 record, 1-2 Playoff record, 2 playoff appearances, 0 Super BowlsAll three are having seasons they would probably like to start over. Who's the worst head coach?

You listed their bodies of work, are we voting based on that or who is worst right now?

Either. I think there are differing opinions on all three of these guys. I am just curious as to how differing.

 

[Phlash]

Shanahan is taking a team in disarray and they have a 4-4 record right now, even though their offense has not a single special player on it. How is he even close to Wade and Childress?

Also, Wade might be one of the worst coaches in NFL history. You could put any number of other people in charge of that team and they'd be at least .500. He manages to kill his own teams chances of winning consistently by being an awful HC.

 

[Tom Servo]

Childress is the easy answer. Shanahan does not belong on a list with the other two.

 

[TheChairman]

Marty Morhingwheg

 

[dhockster]

Childress is the easy answer. Shanahan does not belong on a list with the other two.

I would agree with you except some people discount Shanahan's Super Bowl success because he had Elway/Davis. Without those two years, his record looks amazingly like Wade Phillips. Take into account how he is handling his current team, and I think there is some questions about him as a head coach.

 

[Chairshot]

Wade is a horrible HC. But he is a pretty good coordinator. He just shouldn't be a HC.

I have no idea what Childress brings to the table at any level of the game.

 

[jojoh07]

Seriously Shanahan is on this list ??

I vote Lovie Smith

 

[yellowdog]

Why isn't Mike Singletary an option?

 

[netnalp]

I chose Wade. He had the most to work with and done the least with it. They should have hired Jim Schwartz in 2009.

 

[Stewy]

Gary Kubiak.

5 years as HC, 35-36 record, 0 playoff appearences

 

[dhockster]

Why isn't Mike Singletary an option?

I was going for the coaches who have had some success, who are struggling now. Singletary hasn't had any success yet, so I didn't include him.

 

[dhockster]

Gary Kubiak.5 years as HC, 35-36 record, 0 playoff appearences

After last night's playcalling, I can't really argue with you.You run all over a team in your first meeting, and you decide to come out throwing. Hint: RUN UNTIL THEY STOP YOU!!

 

[DiStefano]

Childress is the easy answer. Shanahan does not belong on a list with the other two.

I would agree with you except some people discount Shanahan's Super Bowl success because he had Elway/Davis. Without those two years, his record looks amazingly like Wade Phillips. Take into account how he is handling his current team, and I think there is some questions about him as a head coach.

Yeah, and you take away the seven years that Lombardi had Starr and Taylor, and he's just an average coach.

 

[Lash]

D. all of the above

 

[Sam Quentin]

Shanahan is taking a team in disarray and they have a 4-4 record right now, even though their offense has not a single special player on it. How is he even close to Wade and Childress?Also, Wade might be one of the worst coaches in NFL history. You could put any number of other people in charge of that team and they'd be at least .500. He manages to kill his own teams chances of winning consistently by being an awful HC.

Holy Hannah...nice avatar

 

[dhockster]

Childress is the easy answer. Shanahan does not belong on a list with the other two.

I would agree with you except some people discount Shanahan's Super Bowl success because he had Elway/Davis. Without those two years, his record looks amazingly like Wade Phillips. Take into account how he is handling his current team, and I think there is some questions about him as a head coach.

Yeah, and you take away the seven years that Lombardi had Starr and Taylor, and he's just an average coach.

Look, I don't think he's the worst head coach of the three. Of the three, he is the only one that I could see gameplanning his team to a victory over a more talented opponent.However, his handling of McNabb in the last three days certainly calls his decision making into question, both on a game day and a long-term view perspective.Almost all of the people in the poll agree that he is not the worst of the three. It is interesting that he has gotten two votes.

 

[BigJim®]

Wade is a horrible HC. But he is a pretty good coordinator. He just shouldn't be a HC.I have no idea what Childress brings to the table at any level of the game.

Childress wasn't even allowed to call offensive plays when he was OC in Philly, so of course it is the first thing he assumed when he became head coach in Minnesota.

 

[Skyryder222]

I chose Wade. He had the most to work with and done the least with it. They should have hired Jim Schwartz in 2009.

I chose Childress but, Wade lost by a nose.

 

[thehornet]

shannahan should be on a list of best coaches currently in the NFl, not worst. thread fail.

 

[RobMexico]

Usually these types of threads include the Browns... I guess there is always next year.

 

[gollum]

Wade is a horrible HC. But he is a pretty good coordinator. He just shouldn't be a HC.I have no idea what Childress brings to the table at any level of the game.

isn't he running the defense that got SHREDDED by jacksonville?Wade is a boob

 

[biggamer3]

Lovie for the max

 

[FavreCo]

I voted Shanahan because he has lost what was left of his mind. The others sucked out of the gate. He has allowed himself to drop BELOW their level with the JaFatness Russell workout.

 

[Fat Nick]

Childress is the easy answer. Shanahan does not belong on a list with the other two.

I would agree with you except some people discount Shanahan's Super Bowl success because he had Elway/Davis. Without those two years, his record looks amazingly like Wade Phillips. Take into account how he is handling his current team, and I think there is some questions about him as a head coach.

Yeah, and you take away the seven years that Lombardi had Starr and Taylor, and he's just an average coach.

You can't really make generalizations about a coach being good because of their players. Maybe if Denver had no Shanahan, Davis would have played to his draft position. Clearly that is more likely the case as Shanahan had many 1,000 yard rushers who were nobodies where as Davis never rushed for another coach. Obviously neither situation can ever be proven, but any coach that won a Super Bowl should never really be considered the WORST coach in football. Period. No matter how bad, you somehow did SOMETHING right to win a superbow.

 

[dhockster]

Childress is the easy answer. Shanahan does not belong on a list with the other two.

I would agree with you except some people discount Shanahan's Super Bowl success because he had Elway/Davis. Without those two years, his record looks amazingly like Wade Phillips. Take into account how he is handling his current team, and I think there is some questions about him as a head coach.

Yeah, and you take away the seven years that Lombardi had Starr and Taylor, and he's just an average coach.

You can't really make generalizations about a coach being good because of their players. Maybe if Denver had no Shanahan, Davis would have played to his draft position. Clearly that is more likely the case as Shanahan had many 1,000 yard rushers who were nobodies where as Davis never rushed for another coach. Obviously neither situation can ever be proven, but any coach that won a Super Bowl should never really be considered the WORST coach in football. Period. No matter how bad, you somehow did SOMETHING right to win a superbow.

The poll obviously was not the worst head coach currently in pro football, the poll was the worst head coach of the three I listed. I thought it was a topicaldiscussion because of what has transpired for each in the last couple of weeks.

 

[dhockster]

shannahan should be on a list of best coaches currently in the NFl, not worst. thread fail.

Thanks for supporting your view with facts.And if you can see his master plan at work in his handling of Donovan McNabb in the last three days, let me know. I am at a loss asto what he is trying to do.

 

[Concept Coop]

shannahan should be on a list of best coaches currently in the NFl, not worst. thread fail.

Thanks for supporting your view with facts.And if you can see his master plan at work in his handling of Donovan McNabb in the last three days, let me know. I am at a loss asto what he is trying to do.

I see what you are saying, and I agree 100% that benching McNabb was dumb. But I don't think anyone can argue the fact that he is a bad coach, in general.

 

[dhockster]

shannahan should be on a list of best coaches currently in the NFl, not worst. thread fail.

Thanks for supporting your view with facts.And if you can see his master plan at work in his handling of Donovan McNabb in the last three days, let me know. I am at a loss asto what he is trying to do.

I see what you are saying, and I agree 100% that benching McNabb was dumb. But I don't think anyone can argue the fact that he is a bad coach, in general.

I agree. I listed him more to find out what people generally think about him.

 

[NobleFootball]

I chose Childress, but only because Lovie Smith wasn't given as an option.

 

[bakes]

Wade is a horrible HC. But he is a pretty good coordinator. He just shouldn't be a HC.I have no idea what Childress brings to the table at any level of the game.

He brings an extra man to the huddle after a timeout in a critical situation in a championship game and has ears fitted with special devices that allow him to hear without actually listening. That's gotta be worth something.Here's the difference between Wade and Chilly:Wade's awful, but he's passively awful; he honestly has no clue as to what's going on, not only on the football field, but wherever he may happen to be standing on the plant. I can easily see him entering a deli and ordering a Cadillac. Childress is ACTIVELY awful; he consciously makes decisions that he feels are correct but make the Vikings worse.

 

[RedskinsFan]

Childress is the easy answer. Shanahan does not belong on a list with the other two.

If McNabb wasn't benched I'd bet that the OP wouldn't have made himself look so foolish and posted his name on this list. This is clearly an over reaction. Last season we were 4-12 with a terrible team. This season at the halfway mark we have the same number of wins and perfect in our division. We have beaten the Cowboys, Packers, Eagles, and Bears. Sorry to break it to you but Shannahan is a great coach with McNabb or without. I can't remember how many people completely forget the fact that McNabb played like crap in that game and just because they heard of him defend him.

 

[shredhead]

Josh McDaniels: 1.5 years head coach, 10-14 record (4-14 in last 18 games), 0 playoff appearances

 

[Gamblin'man]

Josh McDaniels: 1.5 years head coach, 10-14 record (4-14 in last 18 games), 0 playoff appearances

 

[Da Guru]

Wade Phillips: 11 years head coach, 82-60 record, 1-5 Playoff record, 5 playoff appearances, 0 Super BowlsMike Shanahan: 17 years head coach, 150-102 record, 8-5 Playoff record, 7 playoff appearances, 2 Super Bowl wins (1-5 playoff record in non-superbowl seasons)Brad Childress: 5 years head coach, 38-33 record, 1-2 Playoff record, 2 playoff appearances, 0 Super BowlsAll three are having seasons they would probably like to start over. Who's the worst head coach?

Shanny..are you kidding? 50 games over 500, 2 Superbowl wins?

 

[thehornet]

shannahan should be on a list of best coaches currently in the NFl, not worst. thread fail.

Thanks for supporting your view with facts.And if you can see his master plan at work in his handling of Donovan McNabb in the last three days, let me know. I am at a loss asto what he is trying to do.

you listed the facts in your first post. HTH

 

[Bluesbomber]

shannahan should be on a list of best coaches currently in the NFl, not worst. thread fail.

Thanks for supporting your view with facts.And if you can see his master plan at work in his handling of Donovan McNabb in the last three days, let me know. I am at a loss asto what he is trying to do.

you listed the facts in your first post. HTH

Yeah no kidding. No Lovie Smith option

 

[HMKRich]

Wade is a horrible HC. But he is a pretty good coordinator. He just shouldn't be a HC.I have no idea what Childress brings to the table at any level of the game.

He brings an extra man to the huddle after a timeout in a critical situation in a championship game and has ears fitted with special devices that allow him to hear without actually listening. That's gotta be worth something.Here's the difference between Wade and Chilly:Wade's awful, but he's passively awful; he honestly has no clue as to what's going on, not only on the football field, but wherever he may happen to be standing on the plant. I can easily see him entering a deli and ordering a Cadillac. Childress is ACTIVELY awful; he consciously makes decisions that he feels are correct but make the Vikings worse.

^this^I voted for Childress, but please don't think I don't hate Wade Phillips. Because I do. Very much.

 

[dhockster]

shannahan should be on a list of best coaches currently in the NFl, not worst. thread fail.

Thanks for supporting your view with facts.And if you can see his master plan at work in his handling of Donovan McNabb in the last three days, let me know. I am at a loss asto what he is trying to do.

you listed the facts in your first post. HTH

Once again, nice dialogue.Can you give me a short-term or a long-term reason why he benched McNabb, and why he has handled the situation theway he has with multiple bad explanations as to why he did the benching?I am somewhat mystified as to how a coach with as good a career record as he has had, would make such an inexplicable decision. If you have some insight, I would love to hear it.

 

[Northbound Train]

Childress is the easy answer. Shanahan does not belong on a list with the other two.

Wade is clearly the easy choice in my books....nobody has done less with that type of lineup at hand.I agree Shanny doesn't deserve to be listed here.Shanny should be replaced with Norv, Lovie, Lewis to name a few...

 

[dhockster]

Childress is the easy answer. Shanahan does not belong on a list with the other two.

If McNabb wasn't benched I'd bet that the OP wouldn't have made himself look so foolish and posted his name on this list. This is clearly an over reaction. Last season we were 4-12 with a terrible team. This season at the halfway mark we have the same number of wins and perfect in our division. We have beaten the Cowboys, Packers, Eagles, and Bears. Sorry to break it to you but Shannahan is a great coach with McNabb or without. I can't remember how many people completely forget the fact that McNabb played like crap in that game and just because they heard of him defend him.

I didn't put him on the list because I thought he was the worst of the three I listed. I listed him because I was curious ofother people's opinion of him, in light of his decision to bench McNabb. From the responses I have seen, they are mostly favorable.For what its worth, I have yet to see someone give a good explanation, short-term or long-term, as to why he benched McNabb, and why he has tried to explain it with multiple bad explanations. If you as a Redskins fan have some inside knowledge as to what he was thinking, I would be very eager to hear it, because it does not make any sense to me. And just so you know, I have no allegiance to McNabb, at this point in his career I think he is a somewhat average QB. Even with that, the move doesn't make sense due to the alternative (Grossman).

 

[ffgamer]

Shanahan thinks he's a better coach than he actually is. He's average at best. McNabb is the best QB the Redskins have had since the first Gibbs era and you bench him for Rex Grossman. REALLY? Come on man! His ego getting in the way of his coaching.

 

[LawFitz]

This list is worthless w/o Norvall.

 

[bakes]

Shanahan thinks he's a better coach than he actually is. He's average at best. McNabb is the best QB the Redskins have had since the first Gibbs era and you bench him for Rex Grossman. REALLY? Come on man! His ego getting in the way of his coaching.

Childress routinely discards moves such as Grossman for McNabb because they don't rise to his level of dumbness.