For those considering playing the Houston D verse the Raiders...........any concern that the one thing the Raiders can do a little of is run the ball and the weekness of the Houston D is stopping the run???? I'd be a little conernced that the Raiders can stay in the game and control the clock by pounding the rock. Which, if that's the case, limits the opportunities for sacks, INT's, etc. Thoughts??
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Who's your D for week 16? (1 Viewer)
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puckalicious
Footballguy
Ask TEN how bad HOU is against the run.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Why would the Raiders run when they're down by 30?
30? Really? I'll give you a break and take the Raiders and 20 points. Sig bet?
???? CJ and LenDale combined to average just under 4.4 YPC against the Texans this past Sunday. Also, one game doesn't change the fact that the Houston rush D is ranked 24th in yards per game allowed and 25th in YPC allowed.
footballnerd
Footballguy
I dont know what a Sig bet is, but even down by 20 means they ain't playing the ground game.
BusMan
Footballguy
1. Houston - The offense is clicking with Schaub/Slaton/AJ and they should roll over the Raiders, putting Russell in a position to take sacks (Mario Williams) and throw interceptions.
2. Cincinnati - They've secretly been playing some steady defense lately, and Ken Dorsey is a boon to any opposing fantasy squad.
3. Denver - admittedly high risk, but Losman will turn over the ball 2+ times.
2. Cincinnati - They've secretly been playing some steady defense lately, and Ken Dorsey is a boon to any opposing fantasy squad.
3. Denver - admittedly high risk, but Losman will turn over the ball 2+ times.
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not that I have the stones to do it
but correct me if I am wrong, but Cleveland hasn't scored an offensive TD in like 5 weeks
Cincy could be a sneaky play
but correct me if I am wrong, but Cleveland hasn't scored an offensive TD in like 5 weeks
Cincy could be a sneaky play
footballnerd
Footballguy
Coach Tony Dungy expects Bob Sanders to play Thursday at Jacksonville, according to the Indianapolis Star. He missed Week 15 with a knee injury.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20081216/S...0/1058/SPORTS03
Does that bring Indy back into the mix for WK 16 D's?
http://www.indystar.com/article/20081216/S...0/1058/SPORTS03
Does that bring Indy back into the mix for WK 16 D's?
drdgreenlove
Footballguy
Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
Right now I have to choose amonst JETS, 49ers and ATL. ATL is out of consideration due to a road game in a dome against an improved Minn offense.
Leaves the JETS vs 49ers. My scoring is comprehensive and awards points for Yardage given up and total points yielded, along with standard turnovers, sacks, TDs.
JETS
Their run defense, a strength earlier in the year, has turned real soft. Fortunately, SEA's RBs don't get a lot of yards after contact and thus the JETS should be able to contain the game. Wallace is elusive an may be difficult to sack, on the other hand is lack of experience could lead to a few turnovers. Leon Washington is always a threat to generate a punt or kick return TD. The JETS have been awful on the coast, however, their back is against the wall so they should be amped up.
49ers
The D is playing much better since Singletary took over. Fewer turnovers with Hill so the D is not put in bad situations as frequenlty as they were with O'Sullivan. I'd love this game if it were at SF, but still like it even at STL. The Rams were not that stellar last week at home vs. SEA. S-JAX is back but got banged up again. 49ers are playing well and with emotion. The D played both the JETS and MIA pretyy stoutly the past 2 weeks.
Right now, I am leaning towards 49ers.
p.s. Cleve is on the WW (not sure about Hous), where they will stay after seeing them in action Monday night. Houston would give me some thought, although I can see them winning a 34-21 game.
Leaves the JETS vs 49ers. My scoring is comprehensive and awards points for Yardage given up and total points yielded, along with standard turnovers, sacks, TDs.
JETS
Their run defense, a strength earlier in the year, has turned real soft. Fortunately, SEA's RBs don't get a lot of yards after contact and thus the JETS should be able to contain the game. Wallace is elusive an may be difficult to sack, on the other hand is lack of experience could lead to a few turnovers. Leon Washington is always a threat to generate a punt or kick return TD. The JETS have been awful on the coast, however, their back is against the wall so they should be amped up.
49ers
The D is playing much better since Singletary took over. Fewer turnovers with Hill so the D is not put in bad situations as frequenlty as they were with O'Sullivan. I'd love this game if it were at SF, but still like it even at STL. The Rams were not that stellar last week at home vs. SEA. S-JAX is back but got banged up again. 49ers are playing well and with emotion. The D played both the JETS and MIA pretyy stoutly the past 2 weeks.
Right now, I am leaning towards 49ers.
p.s. Cleve is on the WW (not sure about Hous), where they will stay after seeing them in action Monday night. Houston would give me some thought, although I can see them winning a 34-21 game.
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
Houston's offense has looked very good lately...and against good defenses. They should roll over the Raiders defense, control the clock, and force the Raiders into passing mode, which is not good for Oaktown.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
I trying to decide between the Titans or the Jets this week
Ridgelake
Footballguy
I've been playing the Colts the last 2 weeks. I have a choice of them and the WW, which includes Miami, Ari, SF, Den, Cle, Cin, NO, Car, SD, among others.
I'm going to roll with Miami. I know they're on the road. But the Chiefs, while better than earlier in the yaer, are not that great of an offense. Miami has alllowed 15 points or less in 4 of the last 5 games (against similarly talented offenses to KC). They've been putting up a few sacks. Not Dallas/Pittsburgh level, but some. And a few turnovers. They've earned 10+ points in 6 of the last 8 weeks in my league's scoring.
Thats the most consistent point production of any available defense I have to choose from. I don't trust Indy's run defense against Jax. Perhaps in the dome, but not outside on grass where their speed is minimized. Maybe Sanders plays and helps the D. But as of now, I'm going to roll with Miami.
I'm going to roll with Miami. I know they're on the road. But the Chiefs, while better than earlier in the yaer, are not that great of an offense. Miami has alllowed 15 points or less in 4 of the last 5 games (against similarly talented offenses to KC). They've been putting up a few sacks. Not Dallas/Pittsburgh level, but some. And a few turnovers. They've earned 10+ points in 6 of the last 8 weeks in my league's scoring.
Thats the most consistent point production of any available defense I have to choose from. I don't trust Indy's run defense against Jax. Perhaps in the dome, but not outside on grass where their speed is minimized. Maybe Sanders plays and helps the D. But as of now, I'm going to roll with Miami.
Pauli Walnuts
Footballguy
They are a completely different D with Sanders in the line-up. I'm rolling with them.
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
The Jags have owned the Colts with their running game lately, with or without Sanders. I expect a big game from MJD.
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
I've got about fifteen to choose from.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
As of now I'm rolling with the Colts D. The last time Jax scored over 20 points was 6 weeks ago. Although GB is on waivers and staring me in the face right now.
FavreCo
Footballguy
I see him letting his really good buddy Favre destroy the Seahawks as he preps for retirement.
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
Cleveland
They blitz, they turn the ball over (and often give it right back), and Cincy is horrible on offense. Plus there could always be the odd blizzard roll through Ohio.
They blitz, they turn the ball over (and often give it right back), and Cincy is horrible on offense. Plus there could always be the odd blizzard roll through Ohio.
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Cleveland ranks #30 in the league in sacks, 26th in forced fumbles, 17th in points allowed, 27th in yards per game allowed, yet oddly enough 1st in INT's. I just don't see it this week though. I think it'll be a close game and the Bengals will try to pound it with Benson.
the spanker
Footballguy
Waivers are locked on my end. I have NYG D But I picked up ARI and Cleveland D for week 16 (if I made it) but that was before Anderson went down.The NE and Panthers offense scares me to death and points allowed are used in my D scoring so I'm gonna roll with the Browns D.
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
I think Houston is the play this week. The Raiders Off is just awful. The Texans def with Robinson back is playing pretty well.
scientist
Footballguy
I have Minny, who I did not play last week in favor of Carolina. I'm still kicking myself over that one, as I made the same decision in two leagues, one of which cost me a trip to the SB. This week I'm once again second guessing Minny with Pat Williams out. Although I don't want to play Carolina @ NY. Cleveland and SF are my two WW options. It's going to come down between biting the bullet with Minny and SF. Still can't decide.
One thing is for certain, last week Dodds definitely had the initial Minny ranking correct (for those who were reading that thread)!
One thing is for certain, last week Dodds definitely had the initial Minny ranking correct (for those who were reading that thread)!
the spanker
Footballguy
But If we look at the number of fantasy points the Bengals O has allowed to defenses, the Bengals were top three 2 weeks ago. I haven't looked up the numbers since then but the Bengals O hasn't dramitcally improved since then.
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Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
Texans or Browns?Full projections are up
djcolts
Footballguy
I would look for other options rather than the Colts D. I don't think the sacks and TOs will be there compared to other WW defenses. However, I think MJD will do pretty well - but not gang-busters. No Fred Taylor actually will help the Colts overall. It is the 1-2 punch of Taylor and MJD that gave the Colts fits in recent years.
TexansCowboys or Texans?Texans or Browns?Full projections are up
footballnerd
Footballguy
Deciding between PHI and HOU now. Hmmm which offense looks more like fresh meat....OAK or WAS? WAS Oline is horrible right now.
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
Cowboys. They are getting to the QB at an alarming rate.TexansCowboys or Texans?Texans or Browns?Full projections are up
blackjack23
Footballguy
I picked up both. Pretty sure Im rolling with DALDeuce said:Cowboys. They are getting to the QB at an alarming rate.RICK ROMO said:TexansCowboys or Texans?Deuce said:Texans or Browns?scientist said:Full projections are up
Ridgelake
Footballguy
Dallas versus Hou isnt even a debate. Dallas' D has been playing at a Pittsburgh/Baltimore level the last month or so. They are facing a rookie QB at home on a short week. In Texas Stadium's last home game.
Lets put it this way. This is one of the best defensive matchups of the week.
Lets put it this way. This is one of the best defensive matchups of the week.
blackjack23
Footballguy
I agree with you thoughBoss Spearman
Footballguy
No expert here. I have the Jets, the Cards, and the Dolphins. On the wire are NE and Hou who have both been mentioned here. Without bombing you with our league's scoring for defensive teams, it's pretty standard with considerations for fumbles, interceptions and defensive TD's, of course, and points and yardage against. I don't remember which week Oakland changed it's coach, but I went back to week 10. To my surprise, (Scoring systems are relative.) these are the defensive scores each week vs Oakland:
week 10 - Panthers D scores - 17 points
11 - @Miami D scores - 15
12 - @ Denv D scores 3
13 - KC - 15
14 - @ SD - 18
15 - NE - 13
Here's where you have to trust my analysis, but I'm pretty happy with 9 or 10 points, minimally. In my league the top defense (Ravens) this year averaged almost 14 points per week, with the Steelers and Eagles closer to 13. The 12th highest D (Cards) averaged almost 11 for whatever average is worth. The Texans scored a bit more than 8 per week. The bottom team, the Lions, have averaged a tad more than 6 per week. I'm starting to like Houston with its offense clicking vs Oakland. Now do I have the ballz to play them?
Check these Defensive scores in your own leagues.
week 10 - Panthers D scores - 17 points
11 - @Miami D scores - 15
12 - @ Denv D scores 3
13 - KC - 15
14 - @ SD - 18
15 - NE - 13
Here's where you have to trust my analysis, but I'm pretty happy with 9 or 10 points, minimally. In my league the top defense (Ravens) this year averaged almost 14 points per week, with the Steelers and Eagles closer to 13. The 12th highest D (Cards) averaged almost 11 for whatever average is worth. The Texans scored a bit more than 8 per week. The bottom team, the Lions, have averaged a tad more than 6 per week. I'm starting to like Houston with its offense clicking vs Oakland. Now do I have the ballz to play them?
Check these Defensive scores in your own leagues.
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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
The Cowboy's of course.
I love your analysis here and just to give another perspective from my league which doesnt count yardage:Week 10 -Panthers D scores -18 pts against Raiders (1FF, 5 sacks, 2 Ints, 6pts allowed)
Week 11: Miami D scores 9 points (6 sacks, 15 pts allowed) yes, six sacks...
Week 12: Denver scores ZERO (Denver D is raked 32nd Def/ST in my league)
Week 13: KC D scores 17 points (1 Def TD, 2 Fumble Rec, 13pts allowed_
Week 14: SD scores 18 points (3 Ints, 1 Forced Fumble, 3 sacks, 7 points allowed)
Week 15: NE scores 12 points ( 1 Def TD, 1 Int, 2 Sacks, 1 Blocked Extra Pt, 26 pts allowed)
I must thank Boss Superman, for as I just broke down defenses against the Raiders,
I can see clearly that I WILL start Houston D in the Superbowl, and IMO, you should too.
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GiantsRule
Footballguy
I'm in the finals of my 16-team keeper league so the wire is pretty thin. Even though I don't think they'll get many (or any) defensive stats, I'm sticking with my Giants in their pivotal NFC clash with Carolina. Only thing left on the wire:
Tempting to follow the pack and take the Bengals for the week, but the Browns are playing at home and I think some of you are overestimating which Bengals D/ST will actually show up Sunday.
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Bengals, Cincinnati CIN Def 10 at Browns Sun 1:00 p.m. ET -Broncos, Denver DEN Def 8 vs Bills Sun 4:05 p.m. ET -Chiefs, Kansas City KCC Def 6 vs Dolphins Sun 1:00 p.m. ET -Lions, Detroit DET Def 4 vs Saints Sun 1:00 p.m. ET -Raiders, Oakland OAK Def 5 vs Texans Sun 4:05 p.m. ET -Rams, St. Louis STL Def 5 vs 49ers Sun 1:00 p.m. ETNigel Tufnel
Footballguy
For the Houston proponents:
Ridgelake
Footballguy
FWIW, the Vegas O/U line on the Cle/Cin game is a whopping 32.5 points. With Cleveland favored by 3, the implied Vegas predicted score is about 17-14. The weather could be a big factor this time of year in Ohio as well.
I can't believe I'm actually considering one of these teams. But some of these number bare out that situation.
I can't believe I'm actually considering one of these teams. But some of these number bare out that situation.
