A few months ago this guy was signing autographs and playing softball with his non-dominant hand because of his shoulder injury. He didn't take a hit for the majority of training camp. Am I the only dynasty owner that is very happy with the way he has been used this year? I don't think it can be overstated how important training camp is for a players conditioning. Likewise I don't think it can be overstated how important the offseason is for gaining strength and endurance. LM wasn't able to take part in those two very important offseason activities. My biggest concern was that he would be over used at the beginning of the season and further aggravate his injury. Every week that Maroney finishes a game without messing up his shoulder I am happy. They guy is 22 years old, if caution is exercised now he could be productive for the next 8 years. He is currently 13th in the league in yards and his yards per carry is a very nice 4.7. He has looked good. The touchdowns will come but even if they don't there is always next year. The only owners I can imagine being very upset with his performance and the way he is being utilized right now are ones who play in TD heavy redraft leagues who took him in the top 10.
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Why the disappointment in Maroney? (1 Viewer)
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Sabertooth
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I agree. He's a redraft killer, especially in PPR leagues.
Maroney's ADP is RB12. He was expected to produce heavy yardage and TDs in a One back system. Sammy Morris his RBBC partner has more points than him.
His current line after week 3 is 25.2 points on 252 yards on 54 carries(4.7).
1 RB Westbrook,Brian PHI 3 51 291 2 19 223 1 0 69.4
2 RB Barber,Marion DAL 3 40 256 4 4 45 1 0 60.1
3 RB Jordan,Lamont OAK 3 69 350 2 11 121 0 0 59.1
4 RB Addai,Joseph IND 3 65 271 4 8 50 0 0 56.1
5 RB Peterson,Adrian MIN 3 64 271 1 8 160 1 1 55.1
6 RB Brown,Ronnie MIA 3 45 177 2 14 175 1 0 53.2
7 RB Portis,Clinton WAS 3 48 227 3 7 44 0 0 45.1
8 RB James,Edgerrin ARI 3 60 277 2 5 52 0 0 44.9
9 RB Parker,Willie PIT 3 74 368 1 4 14 0 1 44.2
10 RB Ward,Derrick NYG 3 54 273 0 14 88 1 0 42.1
11 RB Alexander,Shaun SEA 3 66 275 2 6 25 0 0 42.0
12 RB Henry,Travis DEN 3 60 302 1 5 52 0 0 41.4
13 RB Lewis,Jamal CLE 3 53 307 1 4 33 0 1 40.0
14 RB Foster,De'shaun CAR 3 46 238 1 6 40 1 1 39.8
15 RB Tomlinson,Ladainian SD 3 57 130 1 14 99 1 0 39.8
16 RB McGahee,Willis BAL 3 66 272 0 9 63 1 0 39.5
17 RB Gore,Frank SF 3 52 175 3 5 37 0 0 39.2
18 RB Lynch,Marshawn BUF 3 57 228 2 5 36 0 0 38.4
19 RB Williams,Carnell TB 3 48 167 3 3 17 0 2 36.4
20 RB Johnson,Rudi CIN 3 58 177 0 8 92 1 2 32.9
21 RB White,LenDale TEN 3 50 180 2 3 17 0 0 31.7
22 RB Jackson,Steven STL 3 69 233 0 8 57 0 2 29.0
23 RB Morris,Sammy NE 3 33 151 2 2 11 0 0 28.2
24 RB Benson,Cedric CHI 3 59 189 1 3 28 0 2 27.7
25 RB Brown,Chris TEN 3 42 247 0 6 23 0 0 27.0
26 RB Bush,Reggie NO 3 29 80 2 16 70 0 0 27.0
27 RB Dunn,Warrick ATL 3 46 160 1 9 43 0 1 26.3
28 RB Maroney,Laurence NE 3 54 252 0 0 0 0 0 25.2
His current line after week 3 is 25.2 points on 252 yards on 54 carries(4.7).
1 RB Westbrook,Brian PHI 3 51 291 2 19 223 1 0 69.4
2 RB Barber,Marion DAL 3 40 256 4 4 45 1 0 60.1
3 RB Jordan,Lamont OAK 3 69 350 2 11 121 0 0 59.1
4 RB Addai,Joseph IND 3 65 271 4 8 50 0 0 56.1
5 RB Peterson,Adrian MIN 3 64 271 1 8 160 1 1 55.1
6 RB Brown,Ronnie MIA 3 45 177 2 14 175 1 0 53.2
7 RB Portis,Clinton WAS 3 48 227 3 7 44 0 0 45.1
8 RB James,Edgerrin ARI 3 60 277 2 5 52 0 0 44.9
9 RB Parker,Willie PIT 3 74 368 1 4 14 0 1 44.2
10 RB Ward,Derrick NYG 3 54 273 0 14 88 1 0 42.1
11 RB Alexander,Shaun SEA 3 66 275 2 6 25 0 0 42.0
12 RB Henry,Travis DEN 3 60 302 1 5 52 0 0 41.4
13 RB Lewis,Jamal CLE 3 53 307 1 4 33 0 1 40.0
14 RB Foster,De'shaun CAR 3 46 238 1 6 40 1 1 39.8
15 RB Tomlinson,Ladainian SD 3 57 130 1 14 99 1 0 39.8
16 RB McGahee,Willis BAL 3 66 272 0 9 63 1 0 39.5
17 RB Gore,Frank SF 3 52 175 3 5 37 0 0 39.2
18 RB Lynch,Marshawn BUF 3 57 228 2 5 36 0 0 38.4
19 RB Williams,Carnell TB 3 48 167 3 3 17 0 2 36.4
20 RB Johnson,Rudi CIN 3 58 177 0 8 92 1 2 32.9
21 RB White,LenDale TEN 3 50 180 2 3 17 0 0 31.7
22 RB Jackson,Steven STL 3 69 233 0 8 57 0 2 29.0
23 RB Morris,Sammy NE 3 33 151 2 2 11 0 0 28.2
24 RB Benson,Cedric CHI 3 59 189 1 3 28 0 2 27.7
25 RB Brown,Chris TEN 3 42 247 0 6 23 0 0 27.0
26 RB Bush,Reggie NO 3 29 80 2 16 70 0 0 27.0
27 RB Dunn,Warrick ATL 3 46 160 1 9 43 0 1 26.3
28 RB Maroney,Laurence NE 3 54 252 0 0 0 0 0 25.2
I guess my point is that, with all the information we had about his shoulder, he shouldn't have been a first round pick (not a high one anyway) in redraft leagues. I do think that now would be a great time to trade for him in most formats. The Patriots have shown a tendency to move more towards the run as the weather gets colder and his TD production will, most likely, improve.
Warpig
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ceo3west
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There are no signs that the shoulder is hampering his production, having averaged 4.7ypc. Even if it is, when he does "get to 100%", there is no reason to beleive he'll become the workhorse that would justify a 1st round pick. Unless Morris has a drastic dropoff in production or gets injured, this situation isn't going away.
There is no possible way that his TD production could go down, so I would say your last statement is safe.Your point about them tending to do more running as the weather gets colder could be valid, but on those teams of the past they have never had Randy Moss and Wes Welker to throw to. That said looking at a November-December schedule where they play in the following cities that are outdoor, certainly does make your point sound betterNov 18 @BuffaloNov 25 FoxboroDec 3 @BaltimoreDec 9 FoxboroDec 16 FoxboroDec 23 FoxboroDec 29 @N.Y. Giants Not a warm weather place in the mix right there.
I agree. He looks like the shoulder is OK. What I am saying is that, as a dynasty owner, that fact alone is a pleasant surprise. Anyone who didn't temper their expectations for this season based on his inability to work out in the offseason and his injury, in my opinion, overlooked a major issue.
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Everybody tempered Maroney expectations. Sammy Morris in the RBBC is the hole card nobody expected.
Many owners added Morris as an insurance policy in case Maroney was sidelined or limited. Morris owners have nicely parlayed their handcuff into a serviceable RBBC players usable on bye weeks. To everyones surprise Maroney appears healthy and Morris still has outproduced him.
Many owners added Morris as an insurance policy in case Maroney was sidelined or limited. Morris owners have nicely parlayed their handcuff into a serviceable RBBC players usable on bye weeks. To everyones surprise Maroney appears healthy and Morris still has outproduced him.
That's definitely a solid point. Morris's production has been a surprise. The question is do you think at the end of the year morris will have outproduced maroney? If so I guess you should try to offload Maroney. If not now might be a good time to buy Maroney low.
AcerFC
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I would agree that he is killing redrafts that took him in the 1st BUT: look who else is down there. Bush's ADP was 1st round, S Jackson was 1.02 and Rudi is 7 points higher and that is the 1 TD that Maroney does not have. So when you look at it, its not horrible from that standpoint. Will he be used differently, as an owner I hope so but for right now he is my RB 2 and I will keep taking the yardage from him. I own Morris also but I cant see wasting a roster spot by using both of them even though they put up nice numbers together
xenith
Footballguy
Spot on!!I drafted Maroney in the 3rd, 32nd overall, RB20. In a redraft, PPR league, he's got me 7, 7, and 10 points as my RB3. Not near good enough, and I've seen enough of Sammy Morris stealing the TDs, and Kevin Faulk continues to steal the receptions, that I dealt him for Larry Fitzgerald to a RB needy team. I feel much better now...
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
There's disappointment because he was a round 1 pick in MOST leagues and he hasn't scored a TD on a team that scores 30 plus points a game.
There are some other things to like about him and it is only 3 weeks into the season but NE has an outstanding passing game and he doesn't look to be the goaline back. I think many thought he'd be used like Corey Dillon and they'd pound the ball in the endzone with him.
He's not playing poorly, just not being used the way most thought or at least hoped.
There are some other things to like about him and it is only 3 weeks into the season but NE has an outstanding passing game and he doesn't look to be the goaline back. I think many thought he'd be used like Corey Dillon and they'd pound the ball in the endzone with him.
He's not playing poorly, just not being used the way most thought or at least hoped.
circelli17
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If you had projected the Patriots to have 11 passing TDs while their starting RB has zero you are my new hero
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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
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Not sure who this is directed to but I field the statement.......where you're going with this has no relevance to the topic of the thread.The thread is asking why is there disappointment with Maroney. The answer is because many drafted him in the 1st round and he hasn't scored a TD yet. It has nothing to do with Brady scoring 11 Td's and him zero or if Brady has zero and he has zero. The topic is just asking about Maroney.
BeachBums
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Took B. Jacobs in the 4th and picked up D. Ward off of waivers when Jacobs was injured. I don't want to deal with the uncertainty of what's going to happen in the Giants backfield or the headache of freeing a roster spot for one or the other of them and I'm trying deal them both for Lendale (taken in the 10th) and if that doesn't work I'll go after Maroney (I also have Morris) who was a 1st rounder.
ceo3west
Footballguy
If this is the way you looked at it in pre-season then you deserved what you got if you drafted Maroney. What Maroney owners should have looked at are the facts:* Maroney is coming off shoulder surgery. This injury is the worst type of injury if you plan on pounding a guy inside the 5.* Sammy Morris was signed on opening day of free agency after Dillon had departed. Morris has alywas been a short-yardage, pounding type RB. Much better suited for running in traffic.* Maroney got few carries inside the 5 last year, why would he now that they have Morris?Maroney may still get some work inside the 5, but I doubt much at all.
Yeah I definitely didn't predict that. I do think it's an anomaly though. I believe that Maroney's production will increase throughout the year. In any case I'm betting that he'll be a decent RB3 for me for the rest of the year.
circelli17
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I don't have Maroney in any league I'm in. However, I do understand why people would be higher on him than I was. Dillon put up 17 TDs last year and Maroney chipped in with half a dozen as well. Logically it would seem that Maroney had 12 TD potential coming into the season, whereas his current lack of TDs has his fantasy owners everywhere cursing his name. This is why I would rate him as a MAJOR disappointment so far this year
ceo3west
Footballguy
Not if you listened to Dodds
The "From the Gut" article is one I read every year, and I'm rarely disappointed.I guess my thread was mislabeled. I'm not saying that I'm thrilled that they guy hasn't scored a TD yet, I'm thrilled that he isn't out for the year. I'm happy with his yards per carry and I'm satisfied with his carries per game. I don't think top 10 is completely out of reach yet but am not planning on it. Those are my main dynasty league thoughts. I do see why redrafters are disappointed but in my (less important) redraft leagues I didn't touch Maroney. If Maroney finishes this year with 1100/8 I'll be pleased. Maybe a better thread title would have been "Are any other Dynasty Leaguers happy with how Maroney is doing?"
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Sheriff66
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Sputnikv8
Footballguy
You dealt one underproducing Larry for another. UGH.
Sucks that I have both these Larrys. Come to think of it, most "Larrys" are underproducing this year.
Joe T
Footballguy
so you expected him to be a 4th round RB?congrats... so did I.
First of all, Brady has 10 passing TDs and yes, I thought Brady would have a great season this year, his career best in TDs. I don't think this pace will be kept up, i.e. breaking Peyton's record, but getting 30+ TDs seemed like a slam dunk.Now, the big, misleading part of your statement is that the backup RBs have 3 rushing TDs. So, if you told me the Pats would be 10-3 in terms of passing to rushing TDs, then that wouldn't surprise me at all if Brady starts hot. That is also on pace for 16 rushing TDs, which after 3 games is pretty close to their 18 rushing TD average the past two years.The problem is that Dillon had the bulk of those 36 rushing TDs the last two years and some folks here called it right that Morris (and maybe Evans) would take a lot of that role. Throw in Randy Moss, a prolific TD scoring machine, and Maroney is in trouble. He may improve, but I would be worried for the rest of the year, because it is hard to be optimistic when the Pats have 14 TDs in 3 games and Maroney has 0. As the OP was trying to mention, I don't think Maroney's shoulder is an issue at all. If it were, he wouldn't be playing.
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