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I don't pretend to know these things. I would assume TT feels he fits the scheme better.But here is a very interesting article on Nelson with rather extensive analysis: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24292722/
It really seems to be a 'style' issue to me. Sweed seems like a prototypical big target guy, but isn't a polished route runner. I take him as a go up and get it guy, but one who is going to have defenders near him at all time. He doesn't appear to like contact from what I've read. Not a slot receiver.Nelson seems like a little better route runner. He'll make his living in traffic, and is not as much of a go up and get it guy. The offense McCarthy runs thrive on run after catch, and from what I've seen of Nelson, he offers more of that than Sweed.
I also don't follow college football much, but could it be the so-called intangibles: a character/smarts thing? Seems like the knocks I've read on Sweed are that he's a bit sloppy - relies too much on natural talent rather than hard work?You're right that nobody saw the Nelson pick coming, but after Greg Jennings & James Jones the past two years, I'll give Thompson the benefit of the doubt when it comes to drafting WRs early. Most analysts called both of those guys reaches where TT drafted them.
I'm not second guessing. I trust his judgment.
Really? My post was partly sarcasm.
In seriousness, I wonder if a guy like Sweed gets tainted by the Texas brand and comparisons to Roy Williams. Is Sweed a great route-runner? Thompson seems to place a high value on that stuff - more than the pure measureables (though Nelson has those too). 
Not really sure, but Roy Williams was the first thing that came to mind for me.
Is Sweed considered a bad route runner? I'm too lazy to confirm this, but it fits my suspicions.
I believe you are correct with this plan.Nelson is going to be the Packers version of Wes Welker. He's fearless, and is going to run all the underneath stuff that many WRs shy away from. That is something that neither Koren Robinson or Ruvell Martin offered. They are decent WRs, but its' my guess that the Packers will be extremely difficult to cover with Jennings and Jones wide and Nelson out of the slot. It certainly seems like the Packers are going to have a very dynamic set of pass catchers for Rodgers/Brohm going forward.When they took him it seemed to me that they are envisioning Nelson as the slot WR with Jennings and Jones split wide.
That vid + the article posted above + me being a GB homer got me a little excited. I should be able to sneak him early third of rook dynasty considering the receivers the Pack allready have.
I've read a couple of reports stating so and based on my viewings of him last season (owned him on my college fantasy team before the injury) and this offseason I think he is a terrible route runner. Jordy's much more polished.
YesTruly depended on what a team was looking for- nelson is a much better fit in gb than sweed
Ted is drafting clones of what he has.
Those are things that James Jones does. These players are pretty interchangeable. KRob and river are still there too. KRob may become a kick returner. Where will Nelson go in drafts? Since he's not a starter probably late.I believe you are correct with this plan.Nelson is going to be the Packers version of Wes Welker. He's fearless, and is going to run all the underneath stuff that many WRs shy away from. That is something that neither Koren Robinson or Ruvell Martin offered. They are decent WRs, but its' my guess that the Packers will be extremely difficult to cover with Jennings and Jones wide and Nelson out of the slot. It certainly seems like the Packers are going to have a very dynamic set of pass catchers for Rodgers/Brohm going forward.When they took him it seemed to me that they are envisioning Nelson as the slot WR with Jennings and Jones split wide.
I've heard that NFL teams had Nelson in their top 3. The reason no one had him in their top 10 outside of the NFL is because mock drafts ruin our preceptions of players. Sweed is the sexy name pick that everyone expects. From a big school, lots of publicity, etc. Nelson was a walk on and has excelled to where he is now on his own merrit. Plus, don't get obsessed with Kiper's or Kirwans, or anyone else's rankings... people rank players based on their own SCHEMES. GB has a certain scheme. A top rated WR may fit awful into our scheme but great into another team's. A great example of this is OL. GB runs the zone blocking offense, so OL without experience in this or not built for this would do awful. I don't care if they're the #1 pick or not- but them in an offense that they are not used to and physically/mentally can not perform in and they will be a bust. Rankings are done by each team, and GB had Nelson ranked very high apparently. I think he's the best WR int he draft when you consider upside, character, and current talent. I didn't hear about him until GB took him, but further analysis of WRs taken round 2 and I think he was the best one
Agreed that Jones is a strong WR as well, and can hold up well to the over the middle stuff. One thing seems certain is that Jennings will be one of the wides. It seems like Nelson may have better YAC ability than Jones. We'll see once he hits the field, but that would be my initial thinking. That would lead me to believe they want to put Nelson in the slot, and get him the ball on a lot of short stuff. Question also may be who is the odd man out this year? Probably only going to keep 5 maybe 6. JenningsDriverJonesNelsonRobinsonMartinSwainThose are things that James Jones does. These players are pretty interchangeable. KRob and river are still there too. KRob may become a kick returner. Where will Nelson go in drafts? Since he's not a starter probably late.I believe you are correct with this plan.Nelson is going to be the Packers version of Wes Welker. He's fearless, and is going to run all the underneath stuff that many WRs shy away from. That is something that neither Koren Robinson or Ruvell Martin offered. They are decent WRs, but its' my guess that the Packers will be extremely difficult to cover with Jennings and Jones wide and Nelson out of the slot. It certainly seems like the Packers are going to have a very dynamic set of pass catchers for Rodgers/Brohm going forward.When they took him it seemed to me that they are envisioning Nelson as the slot WR with Jennings and Jones split wide.
Not that my opinion matters, but Nelson was the best WR in the draft in my view.
Seems like a long time since the Packers trotted out Brewster, Holliday, and Martin as their starters.Agreed that Jones is a strong WR as well, and can hold up well to the over the middle stuff. One thing seems certain is that Jennings will be one of the wides. It seems like Nelson may have better YAC ability than Jones. We'll see once he hits the field, but that would be my initial thinking. That would lead me to believe they want to put Nelson in the slot, and get him the ball on a lot of short stuff. Question also may be who is the odd man out this year? Probably only going to keep 5 maybe 6. Jennings INDriver INJones INNelson IN Robinson BubbleMartin Bubble Swain Practice SquadThose are things that James Jones does. These players are pretty interchangeable. KRob and river are still there too. KRob may become a kick returner. Where will Nelson go in drafts? Since he's not a starter probably late.I believe you are correct with this plan.Nelson is going to be the Packers version of Wes Welker. He's fearless, and is going to run all the underneath stuff that many WRs shy away from. That is something that neither Koren Robinson or Ruvell Martin offered. They are decent WRs, but its' my guess that the Packers will be extremely difficult to cover with Jennings and Jones wide and Nelson out of the slot. It certainly seems like the Packers are going to have a very dynamic set of pass catchers for Rodgers/Brohm going forward.When they took him it seemed to me that they are envisioning Nelson as the slot WR with Jennings and Jones split wide.
Midwest kid too. He'll fit right into Green Bay and the northern Wisconsin culture. He was talking about his small town mentality in an interview I saw with him. Thompson stated that he'd tried to keep a lid on his interest in Nelson.
when we asked him what he did for fun at the senior bowl, he said "work on my farm"Sabertooth said:
LOVED talking John Deere with that kid!
The answer here is toughness and heart. Nelson has it, Sweed is questionable. Good pick Pack!KRob could be odd man out. Ruvell Martin sucks - his only value is on special teams, the guy offers zero upside at WR.Kitrick Taylor said:Agreed that Jones is a strong WR as well, and can hold up well to the over the middle stuff. One thing seems certain is that Jennings will be one of the wides. It seems like Nelson may have better YAC ability than Jones. We'll see once he hits the field, but that would be my initial thinking. That would lead me to believe they want to put Nelson in the slot, and get him the ball on a lot of short stuff. Question also may be who is the odd man out this year? Probably only going to keep 5 maybe 6. JenningsDriverJonesNelsonRobinsonMartinSwainbcr8f said:Those are things that James Jones does. These players are pretty interchangeable. KRob and river are still there too. KRob may become a kick returner. Where will Nelson go in drafts? Since he's not a starter probably late.Kitrick Taylor said:I believe you are correct with this plan.Nelson is going to be the Packers version of Wes Welker. He's fearless, and is going to run all the underneath stuff that many WRs shy away from. That is something that neither Koren Robinson or Ruvell Martin offered. They are decent WRs, but its' my guess that the Packers will be extremely difficult to cover with Jennings and Jones wide and Nelson out of the slot. It certainly seems like the Packers are going to have a very dynamic set of pass catchers for Rodgers/Brohm going forward.zadok said:When they took him it seemed to me that they are envisioning Nelson as the slot WR with Jennings and Jones split wide.
IF we all shut up about him and erase the thread he might fall pretty far. LOL
I got him at #28 so 26 is pushing it. There are so many WR's that he could fall anywhere in the 20's, especially to the Driver owner if he picks before you.
Looks like if I decide to gamble and wait on him past pick 18 I'll have to get ahead of the guy picking directly in front of me as he is the Driver owner. I want to trade down from my 14th or 18th picks unless a value falls to recoup more picks, but we all know that's easier said than done and won't be able to plan ahead for. Would like to see where others have him ranked. I have him in the back end of my top 10.
And does a damn fine job of it too. I really love the way he uses his blockers on returns, doesn't outrun them, but waits for things to set up.By the end of the year the NFL will be saying Devin who?FunkyPlutos said:
The Packers never drafted Colston.
I suspect he meant Coston (Junius). But I think the player he's thinking of is actually Colledge - taken in the 2nd round before Jennings that year.
