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Will Pittsburgh Finish Over .500 This Year ? (1 Viewer)
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Hard to say right now. If Roethlisberger plays the whole season and doesn't show any negative effects from his accident, I do not see how they do not win at least 10 games, but if he misses time or struggles, they could be looking at 8-8 or even worse, especially if Baltimore and/or Cincinnati (if Palmer plays the whole year) improve like some are predicting.
DrunkinDwarf
Footballguy
No friggin way. What kind of name is Menudo anyway? 
nightshift
Footballguy
Mark this down:
6 in '06!
Burn it deep into your brain pan.
STEELERS WILL WIN IT ALL, AGAIN.
6 in '06!
Burn it deep into your brain pan.
STEELERS WILL WIN IT ALL, AGAIN.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
All reports are that Roethlisberger will be in camp on Day 1 and will likely play in at least 1 preseason game. His injury is to his jaw, not his arm or knees.
Their main loss in FA was Randel El, a receiver that only had 1 TD in the regular season and safety Chris Hope. Both have been replaced with pickups in FA and in the draft.
Other than center Jeff Hartings, they are still a very young team with playoff experience. If they remain healthy I do not see any reason why they would go into a tailspin.
Their main loss in FA was Randel El, a receiver that only had 1 TD in the regular season and safety Chris Hope. Both have been replaced with pickups in FA and in the draft.
Other than center Jeff Hartings, they are still a very young team with playoff experience. If they remain healthy I do not see any reason why they would go into a tailspin.
JohnnyJohnson
Footballguy
I'd be amazed if they won less than 10 games this year. I'm quite frankly just not very impressed with their competition.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Not likely to finish .500 or less but injuries can ruin any team. If Roethlisberger were to miss a large chunk of games and the Steelers running attack went into a funk it's possible. I predict 12-4.
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Peyton Marino
Footballguy
This team as it is right now, assuming Ben is ready and 100% by the season opener, will finish 7-9.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Wishfull thinking on the part of a Bengals fan. Just let him go.Injuries can strike any team at any time, but the news on Roethlisberger has been nothing but positive and unless something changes between now and then, he's expected to be ready to go before the start of the season.
Given that, I don't see any reason to believe the 2006 version will be any weaker than the 2005 version. The offensive line is coming back intact, Bettis will be adequately replaced by Haynes and Staley, and Randle El's biggest contributions were on punt returns and gadget plays. Not that he won't be missed, but they have guys who can fill his shoes. Replacing Chris Hope at safety won't be terribly difficult, and I don't expect the defense to miss a beat.
poopdawg
Footballguy
Injuries can strike any team at any time, but the news on Roethlisberger has been nothing but positive and unless something changes between now and then, he's expected to be ready to go before the start of the season.
Given that, I don't see any reason to believe the 2006 version will be any weaker than the 2005 version. The offensive line is coming back intact, Bettis will be adequately replaced by Haynes and Staley, and Randle El's biggest contributions were on punt returns and gadget plays. Not that he won't be missed, but they have guys who can fill his shoes. Replacing Chris Hope at safety won't be terribly difficult, and I don't expect the defense to miss a beat.
Love your sig too. BGP and PM are in their own little fantasy world together.
At this point, I'm thinking 11-5. The AFC North will be quite a bit stronger this season so the division games should be a dogfight. But assuming Roeth doesn't miss much (if any) time, I think the talent level on the field might actually increase somewhat over last season.
Tau837
Footballguy
Do you agree or disagree with this statement: Because Ben Roethlisberger is 27-4 as a starter, it is certain that Pittsburgh will finish better than 7-9.Its not?Because past performance is indicative of future performance, right?
I guess you wont be drafting LJ, LT, or SA this year given their performances last year then?
CommuterMan
Footballguy
Week #1 vs Miami Win
Week #2 at Jax Win
Week #3 vs Cin Win
Week #5 at SD Loss
Week #6 vs KC Loss
Week #7 at Atl Loss
Week #8 at Oak Win
Week #9 vs Den Loss
Week #10 vs NO Win
Week #11 at Cle Win
Week #12 at Balt Loss
Week #13 vs TB Win
Week #14 vs Cle Win
Week #15 at Car Loss
Week #16 vs Balt Win
Week #17 at Cin Loss
Record 9 - 7
Finish in a three way tie with Cincinnati and Baltimore. Tie breakers become so confusing and irrational that Tags awards the division to Pittsburgh, Cincinnati is promised the division the following year and Baltimore is told to build a museum again by Tags as he still has hate in his heart for Charm City....
Week #2 at Jax Win
Week #3 vs Cin Win
Week #5 at SD Loss
Week #6 vs KC Loss
Week #7 at Atl Loss
Week #8 at Oak Win
Week #9 vs Den Loss
Week #10 vs NO Win
Week #11 at Cle Win
Week #12 at Balt Loss
Week #13 vs TB Win
Week #14 vs Cle Win
Week #15 at Car Loss
Week #16 vs Balt Win
Week #17 at Cin Loss
Record 9 - 7
Finish in a three way tie with Cincinnati and Baltimore. Tie breakers become so confusing and irrational that Tags awards the division to Pittsburgh, Cincinnati is promised the division the following year and Baltimore is told to build a museum again by Tags as he still has hate in his heart for Charm City....
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I think this is pretty close although I see the Steelers beating KC at home for a 10-6 record.
poopdawg
Footballguy
I disagree with that statement absolutely. Nothing is certain. I never said that theres no chance that they'll fall below .500. But to say that past performance is not INDICATIVE of future performance is silly. I agree that alot of my projections about players has something to do with opportunity, but I think most will agree that we project a players stats mainly based on past performance. Furthermore, I think PM's statement may have held more water if he would have assumed that Ben may not be healthy, but to come out and say that they wont finish above .500 with Ben at 100% is justDo you agree or disagree with this statement: Because Ben Roethlisberger is 27-4 as a starter, it is certain that Pittsburgh will finish better than 7-9.Its not?Because past performance is indicative of future performance, right?
Some people need to take off their blinders.I seriously doubt you place
every time someone uses past experience to predict a future outcome. Nothing is certain, the 49'ers could win the super bowl next year, all the atoms of the planet could spontaneously cease to exist (total existence failure) so speaking in if then logic and certainties will pretty much end any conversation because nothing is certain except math, logic and existence. The trends are though that Big Ben and the Steelers past performances are a pretty good indicator of how well we'll do and this team is pretty well intact from last year in spite of what the media says. With the youth at the skill positions an extra year experienced from last year, and the continued veteran leadership in most any situation you could predict the Steelers being better then .500.
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nightshift
Footballguy
C'mon GB! We take down SD (Rivers is still green, so shut LT down), ATLANTA? toast!, Denver will take on the chin at home, plus the Ravens drop both to us..the Stillers are 13-3, Division champs, & will be on our way to our 6th SB win!
Godsbrother
Footballguy
You are right, the Steelers should be able to handle SD with Rivers at the helm. Atlanta in the dome and Denver at home sound like games they should win but lose anyway. I'll split the difference with you and say 12-4. How does that sound?
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nightshift
Footballguy
Fine, as long we end up with the SB win!
Gold Plated Nails
Footballguy
Pittsburgh wont muster 14 points against SD.
nightshift
Footballguy
So your Chargers lose 10-0.. works for me!
I've tried to stay quiet in this thread (for the record, voted "over" .500---that's just crazy talk)
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Obviously not.I mean, it's not like they went into San Diego on Monday night last year and won 24-22 with Big Ben going 17-26 for 225 and a TD with no INTs and a last minute drive for the game winning field goal.
And it's not like they held Tomlinson to 62 yards and a TD at 3.4 YPC or stifled Brees to a 20-35-219-1-1 game.
But I'm sure San Diego will be a better team with Rivers in there instead of Brees.
Gold Plated Nails
Footballguy
Won't score 14 points. It's a new season friend.
Steel City
Footballguy
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
with their improving division, losing talent, offseason problems, and the simple fact that due to parity the better teams from last year usually do worse and vise versa(in other words, there really isn't as much separation as we're led to believe due to a short 16 game season) I think its very likely that they could finish under .500.
Tau837
Footballguy
I'm not even arguing that Pittsburgh will finish below .500... I voted Yes. It just struck me as a poor argument when Myrick responded to PM's assertion that Pittsburgh will finish 7-9 with nothing other than a reference to Ben's past record as a starter.I seriously doubt you place
Really? What's wrong with that argument? I believe Roethlesberger's past record indicates that they are highly likely to finish above .500.I'm not even arguing that Pittsburgh will finish below .500... I voted Yes. It just struck me as a poor argument when Myrick responded to PM's assertion that Pittsburgh will finish 7-9 with nothing other than a reference to Ben's past record as a starter.I seriously doubt you place
Boston
Footballguy
*Injuries are always a huge factor...but that applies to every team.
*The big thing that applies to only the Steelers and no other team this year is how will they handle being the champs. Will they be cocky or more focused to repeat? Can they handle having a target on their back every week? Will they be able to handle the usual distractions a Super Bowl champion has? You really don't knowthe answers to these questions right now but they definetly won't have the benefit of flying below the radar screen like they did in last year's playoffs.
The Steelers are a high quality organization and I don't see them imploding unless the injury bug hits. Yet, this is also a team that was the last seed in the AFC. While having a first rate playoff run they were by no means a juggernaut. In the end I see them being a playoff level team (I'm not as high on their division as others are) but I think there are better teams (at least on paper) in the AFC right now so a repeat will be pretty difficult.
*The big thing that applies to only the Steelers and no other team this year is how will they handle being the champs. Will they be cocky or more focused to repeat? Can they handle having a target on their back every week? Will they be able to handle the usual distractions a Super Bowl champion has? You really don't knowthe answers to these questions right now but they definetly won't have the benefit of flying below the radar screen like they did in last year's playoffs.
The Steelers are a high quality organization and I don't see them imploding unless the injury bug hits. Yet, this is also a team that was the last seed in the AFC. While having a first rate playoff run they were by no means a juggernaut. In the end I see them being a playoff level team (I'm not as high on their division as others are) but I think there are better teams (at least on paper) in the AFC right now so a repeat will be pretty difficult.
Tau837
Footballguy
What's wrong with it is that you added no other context. His record doesn't stand alone. For example, what if every starter from last year's team except Ben was gone? What if Cowher retired after the Super Bowl? Would Ben's record mean much for predicting this year? I don't think so. Now, obviously that didn't happen. I assume you were taking other things like that into account. That was my point when I posted this:Really? What's wrong with that argument? I believe Roethlesberger's past record indicates that they are highly likely to finish above .500.I'm not even arguing that Pittsburgh will finish below .500... I voted Yes. It just struck me as a poor argument when Myrick responded to PM's assertion that Pittsburgh will finish 7-9 with nothing other than a reference to Ben's past record as a starter.I seriously doubt you place
Okay. I do agree with that statement as well.What's wrong with it is that you added no other context. His record doesn't stand alone. For example, what if every starter from last year's team except Ben was gone? What if Cowher retired after the Super Bowl? Would Ben's record mean much for predicting this year? I don't think so. Now, obviously that didn't happen. I assume you were taking other things like that into account. That was my point when I posted this:Really? What's wrong with that argument? I believe Roethlesberger's past record indicates that they are highly likely to finish above .500.I'm not even arguing that Pittsburgh will finish below .500... I voted Yes. It just struck me as a poor argument when Myrick responded to PM's assertion that Pittsburgh will finish 7-9 with nothing other than a reference to Ben's past record as a starter.I seriously doubt you place
Personally, I believe the Steelers are a regular season machine. They always underachieved in the postseason prior to last year, but we are talking regular season and not the playoffs. The team is still intact besides Randel El, Hope, and Kimo. I don't think they are going to repeat, but they have too much going for them to not get to 9 wins.
