Will The Falcons Use Hall To Cover/Shadow Bush? (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

This week's Sporting News had a blurb about how the Falcons are trying to take advantage of DeAngelo Hall's talent by utilizing him in more diverse ways than they have in the past. That got me to wondering if something they may try against the Saints this week is to match him up on Reggie Bush on selected passing situations.

One could make the argument that Joe Horn is on the decline and no longer an elite talent at WR. Bush, however, has quickly become one of the top issues (if not the top issue) that opposing defenses are preparing for when they play the Saints. Last week, for example, the Packers used safety Nick Collins to shadow Bush for much of the game. And when Bush lined up as a receiver the Packers tried to counter by bracketing him with a defensive back (sometimes Collins but not always) and a linebacker in coverage.

I'm not saying Hall is going to follow Bush all over the field but when Bush lines up as a receiver I wonder if the Falcons will attempt to put Hall on him since he is their best cover man and Bush has quickly become Brees' top target in the passing game. It would certainly be a way to try and minimize Bush's impact and take advantage of the ability Hall has to defend the opposing team's top passing targets.

Just a thought.

 

[ImTheScientist]

If they do, try to use Hall to cover Bush the Saints will win the game! Horn will light them up!

 

[Big Score]

This week's Sporting News had a blurb about how the Falcons are trying to take advantage of DeAngelo Hall's talent by utilizing him in more diverse ways than they have in the past.

The blurb is referring to using Hall at WR, more than anything else, but I can certainly see Donatell putting Hall on Bush when he's lined up wide.

 

[packersfan]

This week's Sporting News had a blurb about how the Falcons are trying to take advantage of DeAngelo Hall's talent by utilizing him in more diverse ways than they have in the past.

The blurb is referring to using Hall at WR, more than anything else, but I can certainly see Donatell putting Hall on Bush when he's lined up wide.

The blurb I read didn't mention anything about him playing WR but rather about how he has been utilized defensively.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

If they put Hall on him exclusively, why wouldn't NO just pitch the ball to him and try to let him power over hall. He is still technically a RB and I would think that being matched up with a CB would be to his advantage. That's the matchup problem with a guy like that...you get anyone big enough to stop his running, and he'll get burned in coverage. Anyone who can cover him can get overpowered on the run.

(pardon me, while I reach for my koolaid. )

 

[Shake and Bake]

I don't know if I'd put my best cover corner on him. I would let them get some to Bush and then put a spy in zone on him to try for an INT.

 

[Sidewinder]

...One could make the argument that Joe Horn is on the decline and no longer an elite talent at WR. ...

Joe won't put up the numbers he did rom 2000 through 2004, but that will be due more to who is QB'ing for the Saints as anything. He will not be Brees' first, second, and third look as he was for a certain other NO QB (yes, I'm exaggerating, but not by much).If ATL does use Hall on Reggie, it will be interesting to see how they defense Horn and Colston. Payton has been pretty creative so far, and has made some very good in-game adjustments (example: losing 2 fullbacks in the first quarter at Clev).

 

[sholditch]

Demorrio Williams is pretty fast and light for a LB. Maybe work him and Milloy on him?

 

[Loopdog]

am i the only one who thinks Hall is a vastly overrated player?

 

[WhoDat]

In a specific down/distance situation...maybe.

All night...no way.

Bush is solid with an exceptional set of hands but somehow I think Henderson, Horn and Colston represent a greater threat in the downfield passing game. There's much more to running a passing route than having great speed. Taking Hall away from checking a Horn, Henderson or Colston all night will see D. Brees tag the Falcons secondary out and deep all night.

Bush is a good player but...somehow...I would prefer having Horn run my deep post and out and...somehow...I think Horn is far more qualified to do so.

Far better to keep Bush in front of the defense as opposed to letting a WR get behind it.

 

[jurb26]

I believe VTech tried to do that at some point and Bush went off for like 200 yds Rec and 3 scores via the air.

 

[Doug B]

I don't know if I'd put my best cover corner on him. I would let them get some to Bush and then put a spy in zone on him to try for an INT.

I think you're on the right track. Using Hall on Bush likely means that either the 5'9" Jason Webster or the 5'8" Allen Rossum is guarding Marques Colston in single coverage. Falcons dime back Jimmy Williams has good size at 6'2" & 215 lbs ... perhaps he'd need to come into the game.

 

[packersfan]

All night...no way.

Agreed. I'm not saying they should or would try using Hall on Bush on every play but rather on selected passing situations when Bush is lining up as a receiver or possibly when he comes out of the backfield in motion and lines up wide. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw that.

 

[ATC1]

I don't know if I'd put my best cover corner on him. I would let them get some to Bush and then put a spy in zone on him to try for an INT.

I think you're on the right track. Using Hall on Bush likely means that either the 5'9" Jason Webster or the 5'8" Allen Rossum is guarding Marques Colston in single coverage. Falcons dime back Jimmy Williams has good size at 6'2" & 215 lbs ... perhaps he'd need to come into the game.

Then the Duece is loose. I love the game plan for New Orleans. Now all they need is a better o-line and a bend but don't break defense. They are not there yet. But I love the way things look compared to last year.

 

[Doug B]

Agreed. I'm not saying they should or would try using Hall on Bush on every play but rather on selected passing situations when Bush is lining up as a receiver or possibly when he comes out of the backfield in motion and lines up wide. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw that.

I wouldn't be surprised, either, on third-and-longs. If they do that, I hope it gives Colston a great matchup.And heck ... who knows? Joe Horn might even draw a beatable nickel guy like Rossum.

 

[LawFitz]

In a specific down/distance situation...maybe.All night...no way. Bush is solid with an exceptional set of hands but somehow I think Henderson, Horn and Colston represent a greater threat in the downfield passing game. There's much more to running a passing route than having great speed. Taking Hall away from checking a Horn, Henderson or Colston all night will see D. Brees tag the Falcons secondary out and deep all night. Bush is a good player but...somehow...I would prefer having Horn run my deep post and out and...somehow...I think Horn is far more qualified to do so. Far better to keep Bush in front of the defense as opposed to letting a WR get behind it.

Nope, Bush is a better WR than Horn.

 

[Zigg]

This thread is a great example of why NO is much better than people think, and will get better every week. Keep in mind the Saints have new starters at EVERY OLINE POSITION, a rookie WR, a rookie RB/WR and a new QB, the Saints will be one of, if not the best offense in the NFL next year. So much talent, so much diversity because of Bush, it's up to Payton to take advantage, and Brees to execute. Hall on Bush just creates mismathces everywhere else, double team Bush and Brees spreads it out to his WRs like against GB. Play straight up and the Saints bruise you on the ground against the Browns.

Tough matchups for both defenses this Monday. Should be a great game.

 

[Armando]

Bush is the best healthy WR in the NFC South.

 

[Ilov80s]

Bush is the best healthy WR in the NFC South.

Joey Galloway untill proven otherwise.

 

[packersfan]

This thread is a great example of why NO is much better than people think, and will get better every week. Keep in mind the Saints have new starters at EVERY OLINE POSITION, a rookie WR, a rookie RB/WR and a new QB, the Saints will be one of, if not the best offense in the NFL next year. So much talent, so much diversity because of Bush, it's up to Payton to take advantage, and Brees to execute. Hall on Bush just creates mismathces everywhere else, double team Bush and Brees spreads it out to his WRs like against GB. Play straight up and the Saints bruise you on the ground against the Browns.Tough matchups for both defenses this Monday. Should be a great game.

I agree. The Falcons' defense is playing well but you could make a strong case this is the best offense they've seen so far (Carolina would be better in my opinion with a healthy Smith). I really like what I've seen from Payton; I'm a fan of Brees and they have a lot of weapons in the passing game. Horn is declining but Bush gives them a huge weapon in the passing game. If Colston proves to be the real deal this team is going to be very tough to stop because the McAllister/Bush duo should at the very least provide a decent running game to complement and give Brees enough balance offensively. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Saints were the team to emerge from this game at 3-0 and not the Falcons. A lot of people seem to just be conceding this game to Atlanta and I'm not so sure that's the right thing to do.

 

[duaneok66]

Bush is the best healthy WR in the NFC South.

please stop posting things that are blatantly untrue . . . the guy runs no routes, and his ypc is about average for an NFL RB . . .

 

[jurb26]

This thread is a great example of why NO is much better than people think, and will get better every week. Keep in mind the Saints have new starters at EVERY OLINE POSITION, a rookie WR, a rookie RB/WR and a new QB, the Saints will be one of, if not the best offense in the NFL next year. So much talent, so much diversity because of Bush, it's up to Payton to take advantage, and Brees to execute. Hall on Bush just creates mismathces everywhere else, double team Bush and Brees spreads it out to his WRs like against GB. Play straight up and the Saints bruise you on the ground against the Browns.Tough matchups for both defenses this Monday. Should be a great game.

I agree. The Falcons' defense is playing well but you could make a strong case this is the best offense they've seen so far (Carolina would be better in my opinion with a healthy Smith). I really like what I've seen from Payton; I'm a fan of Brees and they have a lot of weapons in the passing game. Horn is declining but Bush gives them a huge weapon in the passing game. If Colston proves to be the real deal this team is going to be very tough to stop because the McAllister/Bush duo should at the very least provide a decent running game to complement and give Brees enough balance offensively. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Saints were the team to emerge from this game at 3-0 and not the Falcons. A lot of people seem to just be conceding this game to Atlanta and I'm not so sure that's the right thing to do.

I think dreams of the NO O taking off are going to be held back as long as it takes fro them to sure up the Oline. If they can add some continuity there, as well as a bit more talent, they can be awsome. All those toys aren't a whole lot of good with out protection up front though. ATL will more than likely domnate teh trenches in the game IMO. Therefor, they win.

 

[falconeyed]

am i the only one who thinks Hall is a vastly overrated player?

No. I think Marshall Faulk said it best on NFL: TA a couple of weeks ago when he basically laughed at Hall and told him to not get too taken in by that number 21 he's wearing. rimetime:

 

[packersfan]

This thread is a great example of why NO is much better than people think, and will get better every week. Keep in mind the Saints have new starters at EVERY OLINE POSITION, a rookie WR, a rookie RB/WR and a new QB, the Saints will be one of, if not the best offense in the NFL next year. So much talent, so much diversity because of Bush, it's up to Payton to take advantage, and Brees to execute. Hall on Bush just creates mismathces everywhere else, double team Bush and Brees spreads it out to his WRs like against GB. Play straight up and the Saints bruise you on the ground against the Browns.Tough matchups for both defenses this Monday. Should be a great game.

I agree. The Falcons' defense is playing well but you could make a strong case this is the best offense they've seen so far (Carolina would be better in my opinion with a healthy Smith). I really like what I've seen from Payton; I'm a fan of Brees and they have a lot of weapons in the passing game. Horn is declining but Bush gives them a huge weapon in the passing game. If Colston proves to be the real deal this team is going to be very tough to stop because the McAllister/Bush duo should at the very least provide a decent running game to complement and give Brees enough balance offensively. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Saints were the team to emerge from this game at 3-0 and not the Falcons. A lot of people seem to just be conceding this game to Atlanta and I'm not so sure that's the right thing to do.

I think dreams of the NO O taking off are going to be held back as long as it takes fro them to sure up the Oline. If they can add some continuity there, as well as a bit more talent, they can be awsome. All those toys aren't a whole lot of good with out protection up front though. ATL will more than likely domnate teh trenches in the game IMO. Therefor, they win.

27-20 Saints.

 

[Gopher State]

Bush is the best healthy WR in the NFC South.

please stop posting things that are blatantly untrue . . . the guy runs no routes, and his ypc is about average for an NFL RB . . .

Non Bush owner

 

[cr8f]

This week's Sporting News had a blurb about how the Falcons are trying to take advantage of DeAngelo Hall's talent by utilizing him in more diverse ways than they have in the past.

The blurb is referring to using Hall at WR, more than anything else, but I can certainly see Donatell putting Hall on Bush when he's lined up wide.

How does Jimmy Williams look? Can he shadow him?

 

[Keys Myaths]

In a specific down/distance situation...maybe.All night...no way.

Exactly what I think.Brees and the WRs would kill Atlanta if that were the case. You can't put your best corner on a RB all night, especially one who really hasn't broken one yet.

 

[Doug B]

27-20 Saints.

Cha-ching! ...It ended up being nickelback Allen Rossum shadowing Bush for part of the game. Saw it a lot in the first half ... think the Falcons abandoned the shadow in the second half.