Will There Be A Yankee Home Game Without A HR in 2009? (1 Viewer)

[Limp Ditka]

Anderson Hernandez!

Thank god for that guy. It's pretty much ASB or bust now.

 

[jobarules]

Adam Dunn HR was an absolute bomb. Cano and Damon not so much.

 

[cobalt_27]

Coors East Daily Report:5 HRs tonight7 of the 8 total runs scored via the long ball.Again, the sample size is just too small right now to draw any conclusions.

Oh look everyone, it's the dude who essentially declared the Yankees dead and buried back in April only to see them hold sole possession of first place by June. Let's all listen to him as he jumps to conclusions again!

What's your damage? Why are you all riled up about this? Why do you make Yankee fans look like an insecure group of ninnies? Suck it up. We've got a whiffle ball park. It's Coors East. Big effin' deal. As an aside, this team is every bit as flawed today as it was in April. We are just as easily capable of giving away 6 games in the standings as we are making up the ground we have. I can't believe how excited some of you guys are getting to be atop the division at this point in the season. "Sole possession of first place in June." BFD.

I'm not insecure about it. If you read up to my previous posts, I'll be first in line to admit that the park is skewed if the HR keep flying out of the park at the rate that they are. My issue isn't with people calling it a wiffle park or unfair or whatever...it's with people jumping to conclusions before we have enough to gauge it on. If the stadium were going to stand as constructed for the rest of the way, I'd be right there with you guys. I just don't get why people feel the need to proclaim something so definitively when the dynamic is about to change. By the end of the summer, there will be a HUGE building that currently stands next door that will no longer be there. Will it have an effect? I have no idea. But I think it's worth waiting to find out.As for the comment about not caring about being in first place in June...would you rather be in 4th? I don't get it dude. What is so flawed about this team? Your statements border on bizarre sometimes.

I've already gone down the list. I don't feel the need to repeat myself. And, yes, I do think you're getting way, way defensive about this team and this stadium.

 

[awesomeness]

Adam Dunn HR was an absolute bomb. Cano and Damon not so much.

Damons HR yesterday is a fly out in any other park in the big leagues.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I'd say this could be it, but the Nats will probably use MacDougal to close.....

 

[Sammy3469]

:confetti:

 

[Limp Ditka]

As John McDonald, who has 9 HR in 1588 career ABs goes deep, I have to ask if it's still only been one game?

 

[dparker713]

As John McDonald, who has 9 HR in 1588 career ABs goes deep, I have to ask if it's still only been one game?

Thought the problem was right field, not left. The ball shows as several rows deep on the gamecast. Its never a surprise when any MLB hitter pulls a belt high 86 mph fastball on the outer half over the wall.Its a good HR park for hitters, but the pitching hasnt helped at all.

 

[jobarules]

Mcdonalds is a Hr in any park.

 

[FDAS]

1 game all year with no homer

 

[awesomeness]

1 game all year with no homer

Michael Brown to the courtesy phone.

 

[Limp Ditka]

1 game all year with no homer

Is that really what it ended up being?Wow.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

1 game all year with no homer

Is that really what it ended up being?Wow.

Shameful. Just for that they deserve to be dispatched in the first round. That would teach'em! :shakesfist:

 

[Michael Brown]

To be fair, I'd say the same thing about any other park...it's not a Yankee thing, it's a jump to conclusions thing. I guess I just don't get it. Seems like the need to be right BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE causes a whole lot of people to go nuts at the first sign of something being different. Like I said, if the HR continue at this rate after the old place comes down I'll have no trouble agreeing with all of you. I just don't feel the need to be right immediately, and am a bit more patient while waiting for the results of the demolition before making a call.

And regardless of how it plays, I don't think any stadium should be called a joke. Just because it doesn't play like every other stadium in the game, that makes it a joke? That's weird. Is Petco a joke because of being extreme to the pitchers? Is Citi a joke because David Wright has 4 HR on June 10? No and no. Fenway and Wrigley have two of the most distinct features of any stadium in any sport ever, and they're two of the best we've got. It's not a joke just because it plays HR-happy (so far). It's just how it is. Fenway isn't a joke just because they've got a 37 foot wall in LF that's probably not even 300 feet from home. The Cubbies aren't a joke just because they've got a brick wall in the outfield that gets covered in ivy in the summer, making every ball hit to the wall an adventure. That's just baseball. The short porch has been a staple of Yankee Stadium since it was built. Just like Death Valley. Was that a joke because it took away probably about a hundred HR each from Mantle and DiMaggio?

I guess I don't get why people refer to any stadium as a joke. Perhaps it's just semantics, and they really mean it skews to the hitters. No big deal though, I'll stay out of everyone's way.

The old place still stands. I had thought it was going to be demolished before the end of the summer. While I'm obviously wrong about the HR rate this season, I'd still like to see how the dynamics change when the old stadium comes down. If/when the old one is torn down and the HR rate remains the same, I'll be first to admit I was 100% wrong.

 

[Limp Ditka]

1 game all year with no homer

Is that really what it ended up being?Wow.

Shameful. Just for that they deserve to be dispatched in the first round. That would teach'em! :shakesfist:

Hope the Tigers do the Central proud.

 

[jobarules]

1 game all year with no homer

Is that really what it ended up being?Wow.

Yeah thats insane.

 

[skillz]

1 game all year with no homer

Just curious. What game was it? Does anyone know?

 

[jobarules]

1 game all year with no homer

Just curious. What game was it? Does anyone know?

vs the nats

 

[Michael Brown]

that place is a joke.

Right, 27 games into what will be a stadium for around 100 years...I can see how this conclusion can be drawn already.Look, I'm not saying the HRs won't continue all season long and forever. But can we MAYBE get some more data about it before proclaiming it a joke? What if I say please?

I voted that there will be at least 5 games without a HR.

How much more "data" you need?

It's not "data"...it's data. It should only be in quotes if I'm looking for something that isn't really data but I'm calling it data. Now that aside...I would like to see how the stadium plays when the weather is warmer and/or the wind currents change or, oh I don't know, they knock down the 60,000 capacity giant building next door. That could maybe play a part perhaps. Do you always base your opinions off a sample size that represents less than two one thousandths of the total possible volume?

In April and May (colder weather), there were 3.8 HR hit per game. Since the All-Star Break (warmer weather), there have been 2.4 hit per game. I love the fact that I was considered for suggesting things would change when the weather warmed up. I remembered reading (I'll look for a link) that the engineers suggested that the baseballs would travel out of the yard a lot more early and late in the season than they would during the summertime. I can't explain the science behind it, but it was at least suggested. Just goes to show that just because the weather warms up, HR won't necessarily increase. Could it be that every stadium doesn't play EXACTLY the same?And despite the HR rate staying high all season long, the fact is that the Stadium finished with 237 HR -- nowhere near the record of 300+ in Coors Field.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

1.254 HR park factor, by far the easiest park to hit a HR in. Good luck defending it.

 

[culdeus]

1 game all year with no homer

Just curious. What game was it? Does anyone know?

vs the nats

well that doesn't count

 

[jobarules]

1 game all year with no homer

Just curious. What game was it? Does anyone know?

vs the nats

well that doesn't count

they swept the yanks

 

[Giantseasonticketholder]

Who cares? Really? I'm not aware of any rules change stating the opposing team was not allowed to hit there.

 

[Michael Brown]

Nick Swisher cares: Link

 

[dparker713]

1.254 HR park factor, by far the easiest park to hit a HR in. Good luck defending it.

Its generally accepted that it takes three years to determine park factors. And there are some parks that have high park factors for HR, but not runs scored so that isnt necessarily a bad thing for the Yankees.

 

[shadyridr]

that place is a joke.

Right, 27 games into what will be a stadium for around 100 years...I can see how this conclusion can be drawn already.Look, I'm not saying the HRs won't continue all season long and forever. But can we MAYBE get some more data about it before proclaiming it a joke? What if I say please?I voted that there will be at least 5 games without a HR.

How much more "data" you need?

MB may have been right

NEW YORK -- New Yankee Stadium no longer is playing like a bandbox.While 21 home runs were hit in the five first games last year during the $1.5 billion ballpark's first season, just 11 balls have gone over the fence during the first five games this season.Yankees blogYankees Want to get the scoop on everything in pinstripes? ESPNNewYork.com has you covered. Blog"Early on I felt like last year obviously the ball was really, really carrying," Yankees pitcher Andy Pettitte said Saturday. "But then what we noticed toward the end of the year is depending on where the wind's blowing, you can't hit it out of here sometimes. And obviously I think you've seen that already a couple times this homestand, when that wind is blowing in, that flag is blowing in from left, that ball just really, really gets held up."Home runs were hit in 80 of 81 games at Yankees Stadium last year, the first major league stadium with home runs in all but one regular-season game. New York became the first team to go deep in 73 home games.The only game without a home run at Yankee Stadium was on June 18, when the Washington Nationals won 3-0 after a 5-hour, 26-minute rain delay at the start.Already this year there have been two games without a homer -- on Wednesday against the Los Angeles Angels and on Friday night against the Texas Rangers."Guys have been making good pitches and going about their business the right way. I don't think I've noticed any difference at all," Joba Chamberlain said. "I guess at the end of the season we'll see how everything compares, but I don't think it's any different."Before the June 18 game, an average of 3.5 homers per game were hit. It dwindled to 2.5 per game for the remainder of the season."It played different after the six weeks," Yankees manager Joe Girardi said.Yankee Stadium finished its first season with a major league-leading 237 home runs, tied for the 18th-most during one season at a big league ballpark. A record 303 homers were hit at Denver's Coors Field in 1999.New York hit 136 home runs at home, matching the eighth-highest total in major league history. Texas set the record with 153 at Ameriquest Field in 2005."Last year it was just early, we had winds that were ripping straight out, and now what we've got is we've got winds that are going dead in." Pettitte said. "So it's definitely to left field I believe has played a lot different on this homestand than it did on the first couple of homestands last year. Toward the end of the season last year, I felt like it really started playing pretty fair. Right field is short. that's all there is to it. But the rest of the ballpark plays actually pretty big."

 

[Limp Ditka]

This thread popped in my mind yesterday. Was wondering how it was playing this year because I really hadn't been paying attention