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Will there "ever" be World Peace in our time? (1 Viewer)

There hasn't been a shooting war between major powers for almost 70 years. By comparison, in the 70 years before 1939, there was WWI, the Russo-Japanese and Franco-Prussian Wars. Go back 70 years from there and you get the Crimean and Napoleonic Wars.

There have been lots of localized conflicts since 1945, some of which involved superpower proxies. But I think this is about as much stability as we can expect going forward.

 
Meh. World peace is overrated. Even if we got it, we'd f it up. People are just destined for conflict. It's in the DNA. So I recommend going full Viv Savage.

World peace as a concept is akin to the tooth fairy. The world is a little more complicated than two words on a bumper sticker. You way overuse this schtick. Which is a shame, because it wasn't bad. But you are probably more favreau calling the chick in Swingers than super brohan. And this is at least the third time you've clamped on my jock, so you haven't held your tongue about ####.

Additionally, I have no recollection of making that post or even know where I was when it was made, but stand by it I will.

 
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Is peace such a good thing if some people have to live in miserable conditions without justice?

Maybe a better question is, will there ever be a day when there are no dictatorships?

 
If the basics in life, food/shelter/energy/etc were no longer scarce, the world would be much less violent.

 
If the basics in life, food/shelter/energy/etc were no longer scarce, the world would be much less violent.
Is energy really a basic need? Is it scarce? We overuse what we have, but it's more a demand issue than supply.

People will always want more of everything. Change our greed and we have a chance at peace. War is also ingrained in our nature.

Right now I'd settle for peace between my kids.

 
It's actually indeed very peaceful.

As stated above major powers or large countries haven't gone at it since the Korean War (China/US) or WW2. That's quite a stretch.

The proxy wars continued on but have finally petered out, largely due to the end of communism I'd say.

The war against terrorism, or islamist extremism, rages on, but these are not large wars.

We are in a cold war style stasis with Iran. Pakistan and India always have knives at each other's throats.

Russia had a brief shooting war with Georgia.

North Korea is just plum crazy and you wonder when they just one day say 'f-it we're coming across.'

The US is in combat in Afghanistan soon, and when we pull out we may see a return to the Taliban, much like our departing Iraq has led to a new insurgency in Anbar, western Iraq and Syria (where Iraqi fighters have traveled to), but much of this is in the way of civil wars. Sudan, some parts of the Phillipines and other hot spots would fall into this category.

We still see occupations in Judea/Samaria (Israeli west bank) and Tibet, but Jordan abandoned its claim to the former and no one cares enough to help the latter.

Really the greatest horror we have hanging over us is the nuclear threat and its spread.

In a way we are in a mop-up phase after WW1 and WW2. It's an open question whether US forces in Europe and Afghanistan and other places are a help to peace, I think they are, I think the world still needs us, and I do like to think that our nation's foreign policy is at least aimed this way, though in the immediate impact of what we do it may not always seem like it.

We may actually be on our way to accomplishing this.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
It's actually indeed very peaceful.

As stated above major powers or large countries haven't gone at it since the Korean War (China/US) or WW2. That's quite a stretch.

The proxy wars continued on but have finally petered out, largely due to the end of communism I'd say.

The war against terrorism, or islamist extremism, rages on, but these are not large wars.

We are in a cold war style stasis with Iran. Pakistan and India always have knives at each other's throats.

Russia had a brief shooting war with Georgia.

North Korea is just plum crazy and you wonder when they just one day say 'f-it we're coming across.'

The US is in combat in Afghanistan soon, and when we pull out we may see a return to the Taliban, much like our departing Iraq has led to a new insurgency in Anbar, western Iraq and Syria (where Iraqi fighters have traveled to), but much of this is in the way of civil wars. Sudan, some parts of the Phillipines and other hot spots would fall into this category.

We still see occupations in Judea/Samaria (Israeli west bank) and Tibet, but Jordan abandoned its claim to the former and no one cares enough to help the latter.

Really the greatest horror we have hanging over us is the nuclear threat and its spread.

In a way we are in a mop-up phase after WW1 and WW2. It's an open question whether US forces in Europe and Afghanistan and other places are a help to peace, I think they are, I think the world still needs us, and I do like to think that our nation's foreign policy is at least aimed this way, though in the immediate impact of what we do it may not always seem like it.

We may actually be on our way to accomplishing this.
Exactly, how much more peaceful can things be? This is a pretty good spot relative to human history. We complain a lot, but really miss out on just how good we have it.

 
Until every man/women understands that the only thing special is mankind/womenkind and not the individual person, it will never happen.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
It's actually indeed very peaceful.

As stated above major powers or large countries haven't gone at it since the Korean War (China/US) or WW2. That's quite a stretch.

The proxy wars continued on but have finally petered out, largely due to the end of communism I'd say.

The war against terrorism, or islamist extremism, rages on, but these are not large wars.

We are in a cold war style stasis with Iran. Pakistan and India always have knives at each other's throats.

Russia had a brief shooting war with Georgia.

North Korea is just plum crazy and you wonder when they just one day say 'f-it we're coming across.'

The US is in combat in Afghanistan soon, and when we pull out we may see a return to the Taliban, much like our departing Iraq has led to a new insurgency in Anbar, western Iraq and Syria (where Iraqi fighters have traveled to), but much of this is in the way of civil wars. Sudan, some parts of the Phillipines and other hot spots would fall into this category.

We still see occupations in Judea/Samaria (Israeli west bank) and Tibet, but Jordan abandoned its claim to the former and no one cares enough to help the latter.

Really the greatest horror we have hanging over us is the nuclear threat and its spread.

In a way we are in a mop-up phase after WW1 and WW2. It's an open question whether US forces in Europe and Afghanistan and other places are a help to peace, I think they are, I think the world still needs us, and I do like to think that our nation's foreign policy is at least aimed this way, though in the immediate impact of what we do it may not always seem like it.

We may actually be on our way to accomplishing this.
Exactly, how much more peaceful can things be? This is a pretty good spot relative to human history. We complain a lot, but really miss out on just how good we have it.
How have things been in Africa?

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
It's actually indeed very peaceful.

As stated above major powers or large countries haven't gone at it since the Korean War (China/US) or WW2. That's quite a stretch.

The proxy wars continued on but have finally petered out, largely due to the end of communism I'd say.

The war against terrorism, or islamist extremism, rages on, but these are not large wars.

We are in a cold war style stasis with Iran. Pakistan and India always have knives at each other's throats.

Russia had a brief shooting war with Georgia.

North Korea is just plum crazy and you wonder when they just one day say 'f-it we're coming across.'

The US is in combat in Afghanistan soon, and when we pull out we may see a return to the Taliban, much like our departing Iraq has led to a new insurgency in Anbar, western Iraq and Syria (where Iraqi fighters have traveled to), but much of this is in the way of civil wars. Sudan, some parts of the Phillipines and other hot spots would fall into this category.

We still see occupations in Judea/Samaria (Israeli west bank) and Tibet, but Jordan abandoned its claim to the former and no one cares enough to help the latter.

Really the greatest horror we have hanging over us is the nuclear threat and its spread.

In a way we are in a mop-up phase after WW1 and WW2. It's an open question whether US forces in Europe and Afghanistan and other places are a help to peace, I think they are, I think the world still needs us, and I do like to think that our nation's foreign policy is at least aimed this way, though in the immediate impact of what we do it may not always seem like it.

We may actually be on our way to accomplishing this.
Exactly, how much more peaceful can things be? This is a pretty good spot relative to human history. We complain a lot, but really miss out on just how good we have it.
How have things been in Africa?
I didn't say things were perfect, never will be. A lot of progress has been made around the world. There are still people living at the hands of violent leaders that threaten, abuse and kill to attain/maintain power. However, across the globe, countries seem to be succeeding in avoiding war through diplomacy.

 
Is peace such a good thing if some people have to live in miserable conditions without justice?

Maybe a better question is, will there ever be a day when there are no dictatorships?
Dictatorship is far superior to democracy, it is just that the wrong people become dictators.

 

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