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Willie Parker vs Travis Henry (1 Viewer)

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I understand that the safe and logical choice here is Willie Parker, but my gut is telling me to go with Travis Henry.

Denver has been nirvana for rb's for years. This is the first time in several seasons that Denver has a legit rb in the backfield. I could see Henry with 1,450 yds and 15 td's. Denver can make mediocre rb's look like all stars. What kind of numbers can a quality rb like Henry put up in this system?

FWP was the man in 2006, but how likely is it that FWP will score 16 times again in 2007? Is it certain that Parker will be the goal line man for the Steelers this season? It just "feels" like Parker could be a guy who could disappoint in 2007. I think it is more likely he scores 9 td's rather than 16 td's.

I am torn with this selection. Most people I have spoken to feel that Henry is a reach at the 8 spot while Parker represents value at the 8 spot.

Any thoughts?

How do you project this players?

Thanks in advance for you help.

 
I'm probably way off base, but hopefully not since I chose Parker.

Parker: ~1800/14

Henry: ~1600/12

 
I have Willie at 340 1564 12 ru tds 20 210 2 rec tds while I have Henry at 318 1399 11 ru tds 26 180 1 rec td.

I would take Parker (I have the 8th pick in my 12 team draft and am considering this same decision as well) - I think his stats will be a little better, he doesn't have the Shanny factor working against him (not that I think it will in Henry's case), and Parker isn't in the NFL substance abuse program (not a huge deal, but if Henry does test positive in the first 3 weeks, he's suspended for the season, I believe - heard them talking about it on The Audible). Their strength of schedule is about the same, so that's not really a deciding factor. I think it is just a case of splitting hairs here, but I would side with Fast Willie.

 
You take Willie because of the injury to Hendry and the fact you have a better chance of him being there in round 2 than FWP. Thats the logical stance, if you like Hendry more, go with him.

 
I'm on the clock as I type this (pick 1.10) and trying to decide between Henry and Maurice Drew. In a ppr league, Henry beats Parker easily. Henry has good hands and a young QB. Even in Denver where RB passes are less frequent, that's a great combo. Pittsburgh has a entirely new offensive coaching staff, which means things could change substantially, i.e. the offensive might be less productive. I like Parker but I'm not sure he's a top 12 back this year.

As for my pick, I'm leaning toward Henry, though his injury history is worrisome. I think Drew is the next LT, just not sure if this is the year he proves it, beyond all doubt....decisions...decisions....

 
kyinaz said:
I'm on the clock as I type this (pick 1.10) and trying to decide between Henry and Maurice Drew. In a ppr league, Henry beats Parker easily. Henry has good hands and a young QB. Even in Denver where RB passes are less frequent, that's a great combo. Pittsburgh has a entirely new offensive coaching staff, which means things could change substantially, i.e. the offensive might be less productive. I like Parker but I'm not sure he's a top 12 back this year.As for my pick, I'm leaning toward Henry, though his injury history is worrisome. I think Drew is the next LT, just not sure if this is the year he proves it, beyond all doubt....decisions...decisions....
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Depends on your league. Good chance either one could fall, depending on what your leaguemates are like. Also depends on what u're looking for in 2nd round. But I think overall Henry is both the safer pick and higher upside pick.
 
gianmarco said:
Depends on your league. Good chance either one could fall, depending on what your leaguemates are like. Also depends on what u're looking for in 2nd round. But I think overall Henry is both the safer pick and higher upside pick.
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All 3 are available...Henry, Parker and Drew. Guy before me took Manning at 1.09. I figured Drew would be available but didn't think I get to choose between all 3. I'm eyeing one of the top WR for RD 2. Since this league has the option of starting 1RB and 3 WR (or 2 of each) that's a pretty nice way to go with the PPR. I think that finding a 2nd RB this year is a real crapshoot. I'd rather have one of those RBs as my backup.Anyway, I think I'm picking Henry since there definitely seems to be less risk there, but I just can't shake this feeling that Drew is gonna blow up, this year. He's really good...better than Fred Taylor and Freddie is still one helluva a back.
 
BAT1man said:
Frankly, I'd be surprised to see FWP slip that far. I'd be willing to draft him as high as #4 overall.
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Are you a Steelers' homer?If not, why are you not worried about the production of a RB on a team with a completely new offensive coaching staff and significant personnel changes, on the field, too?I like Parker but I think the Steeler's offense will regress a little, or maybe a lot. I see 1200 total yards and 10 TDs as Parker's ceiling, closer to his 2005 numbers--based on his talent alone, mind you. Time will tell, but I think the Steelers will miss Bill Cowher.
 
kyinaz said:
BAT1man said:
Frankly, I'd be surprised to see FWP slip that far. I'd be willing to draft him as high as #4 overall.
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Are you a Steelers' homer?If not, why are you not worried about the production of a RB on a team with a completely new offensive coaching staff and significant personnel changes, on the field, too?I like Parker but I think the Steeler's offense will regress a little, or maybe a lot. I see 1200 total yards and 10 TDs as Parker's ceiling, closer to his 2005 numbers--based on his talent alone, mind you. Time will tell, but I think the Steelers will miss Bill Cowher.
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Here's where you are wrong:1) It isn't a completely new coaching staff. Arians, the new offensive coordinator, was their WR's coach the last few years. So while he may change the offense up somewhat, he knows where the talent lies.2) When have the Steelers not had a running focused/based offense? They're going to open it up more this year, but that should only open up more lanes for Parker to bust off 10+ yard runs.2) Why would the Steelers offense regress aside from coaching changes?!? They're coming off a season where their starting QB was hit by a chrysler, had an appendectomy, and also had a concussion. If anything, it gets better this year.3) Don't know why you would judge the 2005 numbers since FWP was sharing time somewhat with Bettis, and esp because Bettis was the goalline back at that point.4) How can a stud RB just entering his prime have a ceiling 6 TDs and 600 yds lower than his previous years stats?5) FWP's has had no history of injury and since he didn't play in college, has limited miles. Henry has had some injuries, as well as other problems, and has been a feature back at least 3-4 years of his what, 6 year career? Henry isn't old, but this is just another argument as to why FWP has less riskIt seems to me you are just substantiating your pick. Nothing against Henry, I like him as well, but FWP is a consensus choice ahead of him and every reason you provided as to why you didn't pick him is false.Roethlisberger is healthy again and likely to have a very good year, they have a soon to be star WR it seems in Holmes who can stretch the field, and a Top 5 talent RB in FWP, who essentially the offense is based around because he causes the trouble of choosing to crowd the line or play the pass.Henry will likely end up Top 10 this year, but I think Parker will be Top 5...AGAIN
 
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kyinaz said:
BAT1man said:
Frankly, I'd be surprised to see FWP slip that far. I'd be willing to draft him as high as #4 overall.
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Are you a Steelers' homer?If not, why are you not worried about the production of a RB on a team with a completely new offensive coaching staff and significant personnel changes, on the field, too?

I like Parker but I think the Steeler's offense will regress a little, or maybe a lot. I see 1200 total yards and 10 TDs as Parker's ceiling, closer to his 2005 numbers--based on his talent alone, mind you. Time will tell, but I think the Steelers will miss Bill Cowher.
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Nope, I can barely stand the Steelers as I am a Chargers fan. What is not to like about Parker this season?

He is rid of a conservative coach and now playing in a system with a coach that will be using a spread offense so that FWP will be alone in space. This will be a huge factor on how well he does this season.
Big Ben is fully recovered from his truck kissing episode, and another year wiser/experienced.
FWP proved he could light up the scoreboard last season, and will himself be wiser and more experienced.
The Steeler schedule is ridiculously easy this season.
He has no real competition for playing time. He's the featured back.
I expect his Oline will be a bit better this season
I am projecting him at around 1400 ru yards 14 ru TDs, and an increase in rec and yards, around 50 receptions 500 rec yards 4 rec TDsFWP is on the brink of joining tier one for RBs. Meanwhile T Henry is a guy I'm targeting in the mid-to-late 2nd round.

People were saying, "Time will tell, but I think the Steelers will miss Chuck Noll," when Cower was hired.

 
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kyinaz said:
I'm on the clock as I type this (pick 1.10) and trying to decide between Henry and Maurice Drew. In a ppr league, Henry beats Parker easily. Henry has good hands and a young QB. Even in Denver where RB passes are less frequent, that's a great combo. Pittsburgh has a entirely new offensive coaching staff, which means things could change substantially, i.e. the offensive might be less productive. I like Parker but I'm not sure he's a top 12 back this year.As for my pick, I'm leaning toward Henry, though his injury history is worrisome. I think Drew is the next LT, just not sure if this is the year he proves it, beyond all doubt....decisions...decisions....
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Parker will have more receptions and receiving yards than Henry.
 
I see FWP having the kind of role that Westbrook has with the Eagles. They will be more aggressive offensively. FWP will be on the field a lot. Whatever changes that have taken place are largely at the coaching level. The personnel on the field remain the same.

I think we can predict the numbers for Henry because of the system. His ceiling, however high, is implied somehow. He's a safe pick.

Given the two situations, I will take FWP. His upside is tremendous.

 
i saw a few folks in the parker spotlight and then at least one in this thread predict 20something receptions for FWP this season.

I cant help but think he finsihes with around 40 receptions, considering:

a) he had 31 last year

b) it is well documented around here that Pitt will be opening it up more this year

to answer the OP, i personally would choose Parker but would not blame either pick. 2 quality backs.

 
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I personally think these are the 2 safest picks out of the top RB's aside from LT and SJ and Rudi. Obviously, LT/SJ are #1/#2 and Rudi has limited upside. Both Henry and Parker have pretty high floors with tremendous upside for both. Just a matter of preference in my opinion.

 
Louisville Slugger said:
I understand that the safe and logical choice here is Willie Parker, but my gut is telling me to go with Travis Henry. Denver has been nirvana for rb's for years. This is the first time in several seasons that Denver has a legit rb in the backfield. I could see Henry with 1,450 yds and 15 td's. Denver can make mediocre rb's look like all stars. What kind of numbers can a quality rb like Henry put up in this system?FWP was the man in 2006, but how likely is it that FWP will score 16 times again in 2007? Is it certain that Parker will be the goal line man for the Steelers this season? It just "feels" like Parker could be a guy who could disappoint in 2007. I think it is more likely he scores 9 td's rather than 16 td's.I am torn with this selection. Most people I have spoken to feel that Henry is a reach at the 8 spot while Parker represents value at the 8 spot.Any thoughts?How do you project this players?Thanks in advance for you help.
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I'm facing the same issue at the 9 spot. I'm leaning toward Parker with the outside hope of catching Henry on the way back.
 
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