Winter Storm Caesar (1 Viewer)

[loose circuits]

does everyone still feel safe starting their Lions and Packers despite the winter storm expected to dump snow on upper Mid-West?

http://www.weather.com/weather/today/Green+Bay+WI+USWI0288

the old theory is wind is what hurts passing games, but if enough snow is dumping hard to get a lot of offensive output.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

atmospheric snow heap

 

[General Tso]

atmospheric snow heap

LOL. He's going to unload on Green Bay this week.

 

[Mile High]

When did they go to naming storms?

 

[Brycestrahorn]

as someone said in another thread, won't snow benefit the offense, WRs and RBs because they kn9w where they are going; Defense doesnt

 

[THE SNOWMAN]

as someone said in another thread, won't snow benefit the offense, WRs and RBs because they kn9w where they are going; Defense doesnt

I don't think the defense ever knows where the offense is going.

 

[Wadsworth]

I would be more concerned if I had another option with a Sunday night or Monday night start I could substitute in if there is epic snow. As it is my options are start someone else with an early game or cross my fingers that the weather people are wrong again.

 

[Wadsworth]

as someone said in another thread, won't snow benefit the offense, WRs and RBs because they kn9w where they are going; Defense doesnt

I don't think the defense ever knows where the offense is going.

Clearly you have not watched many Jaguars games, the defense allows seems to know where they are going.

 

[Kleck]

Just another December game in Lambeau. I don't think it will affect the Packers much since it doesn't sound like there will be a lot of wind. The field will be a little wet, but the snow will mostly melt away. The Packers have a hydronic heating system beneath the field that can keep the ground at 55* even if it's 0* outside, along with a drainage and irrigation system that can help control the amount of water beneath the field. Plus the field has artificial turf mixed into the grass to help keep it together.

 

[habsfan]

as someone said in another thread, won't snow benefit the offense, WRs and RBs because they kn9w where they are going; Defense doesnt

I don't think the defense ever knows where the offense is going.

Clearly you have not watched many Jaguars games, the defense allows seems to know where they are going.

A number of offenses don't know where they're going either. I mean the only thing better than watching a 7-6 game is watching it in a snow globe.

 

[packseasontix]

When did they go to naming storms?

I think last year... I lived in Wisconsin all my life and someone said a storm name to me that was from Kentucky and I thought he was high. I tell you they must be To the point though:Rodgers in December Regular Season @ Home: (excluding post season as it would be better teams than the Lions with more on the line)2008 -19/30 - 295 - 2 TD - 1 INT (21-24 Loss)21/31 - 308 - 3 TD - 0 INT (31-21 Win)2009 - 26/40 - 263 - 3 TD - 2 INT (27-14 Win)12/23 - 237 - 1 TD - 0 INT (48-10 Win)2010 -21/30 - 298 - 3 TD - 0 INT (34-16 Win)25/37 - 404 - 4 TD - 0 INT (45-17 Win)19/28 - 221 - 1 TD - 1 INT (10-3 Win)2011 -17/30 - 281 - 2 TD - 1 INT (46-16 Win)21/29 - 283 - 5 TD - 0 INT (35-21 Win)2012 - 27/35 - 286 - 1 TD - 1 INT (23-14 Win)Also its Favre and not Rodgers but one of the bigger snow storms Lambaeu has seen in years was in 2008:http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=280112009

 

[Doug B]

When did they go to naming winter storms?

Slight fix, but -- was wondering about that.

 

[SCT]

as someone said in another thread, won't snow benefit the offense, WRs and RBs because they kn9w where they are going; Defense doesnt

I don't think the defense ever knows where the offense is going.

It's really quite an advantage isn't it?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Also its Favre and not Rodgers but one of the bigger snow storms Lambaeu has seen in years was in 2008:http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=280112009

Maybe that's why they signed Grant

 

[Sinn Fein]

When did they go to naming winter storms?

Slight fix, but -- was wondering about that.

Hurricane-envy

 

[Doug B]

When did they go to naming winter storms?

Slight fix, but -- was wondering about that.

Good article about this here. The Weather Channel is going off on its own naming winter storms. They're nowhere near official, according to the National Weather Service.

 

[Doug B]

Hurricane-envy

If the NWS ever gets on board, naming storms might help people prepare better. Still, on balance, I thought Americans in colder climates were much, much more used to winter storms that Gulf Coast folks are used to hurricanes.Named storms, in helping to "vet" the severity of a storm, might also help with procuring higher levels of federal recovery funding.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

When did they go to naming storms?

I think last year... I lived in Wisconsin all my life and someone said a storm name to me that was from Kentucky and I thought he was high. I tell you they must be To the point though:Rodgers in December Regular Season @ Home: (excluding post season as it would be better teams than the Lions with more on the line)2008 -19/30 - 295 - 2 TD - 1 INT (21-24 Loss)21/31 - 308 - 3 TD - 0 INT (31-21 Win)2009 - 26/40 - 263 - 3 TD - 2 INT (27-14 Win)12/23 - 237 - 1 TD - 0 INT (48-10 Win)2010 -21/30 - 298 - 3 TD - 0 INT (34-16 Win)25/37 - 404 - 4 TD - 0 INT (45-17 Win)19/28 - 221 - 1 TD - 1 INT (10-3 Win)2011 -17/30 - 281 - 2 TD - 1 INT (46-16 Win)21/29 - 283 - 5 TD - 0 INT (35-21 Win)2012 - 27/35 - 286 - 1 TD - 1 INT (23-14 Win)Also its Favre and not Rodgers but one of the bigger snow storms Lambaeu has seen in years was in 2008:http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=280112009

Thanks for pulling the stats above. Very interesting. A couple observations:1. The issue isn't that this is a December game. The issue is that it will snow.2. In the specific game you referenced for Favre, the Pack threw 23 times and ran 35 times. That's exactly what people appear to fear this week.

 

[Sinn Fein]

When did they go to naming storms?

I think last year... I lived in Wisconsin all my life and someone said a storm name to me that was from Kentucky and I thought he was high. I tell you they must be To the point though:Rodgers in December Regular Season @ Home: (excluding post season as it would be better teams than the Lions with more on the line)2008 -19/30 - 295 - 2 TD - 1 INT (21-24 Loss)21/31 - 308 - 3 TD - 0 INT (31-21 Win)2009 - 26/40 - 263 - 3 TD - 2 INT (27-14 Win)12/23 - 237 - 1 TD - 0 INT (48-10 Win)2010 -21/30 - 298 - 3 TD - 0 INT (34-16 Win)25/37 - 404 - 4 TD - 0 INT (45-17 Win)19/28 - 221 - 1 TD - 1 INT (10-3 Win)2011 -17/30 - 281 - 2 TD - 1 INT (46-16 Win)21/29 - 283 - 5 TD - 0 INT (35-21 Win)2012 - 27/35 - 286 - 1 TD - 1 INT (23-14 Win)Also its Favre and not Rodgers but one of the bigger snow storms Lambaeu has seen in years was in 2008:http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=280112009

Thanks for pulling the stats above. Very interesting. A couple observations:1. The issue isn't that this is a December game. The issue is that it will snow.2. In the specific game you referenced for Favre, the Pack threw 23 times and ran 35 times. That's exactly what people appear to fear this week.

i don't fear that kind of balance today - the Pack couldn't run 35 times if they had to. But, if there is an impact on the passing game, that would be bad news. I am going with Rodgers, and expecting a heavy dose of short passes to Cobb if the weather is a factor.

 

[kegger]

Yur not gettin me again, with one of these Alomstfearfull storms..

 

[3 hour lunch]

Yur not gettin me again, with one of these Alomstfearfull storms..

How about a guy like Hanson today? He's been solid, been dome kickers in wintry conditions....

 

[packseasontix]

Yur not gettin me again, with one of these Alomstfearfull storms..

How about a guy like Hanson today? He's been solid, been dome kickers in wintry conditions....

Question is will he be allowed to kick FGs? I think the Lions come in thinking its all or nothing wanting TDs...?My Hanson prediction:0/1 - missed 47 yarder3 - PATPackers 38 - Lions 21Rodgers - 330, 5 TDs

 

[3 hour lunch]

Yur not gettin me again, with one of these Alomstfearfull storms..

How about a guy like Hanson today? He's been solid, been dome kickers in wintry conditions....

Question is will he be allowed to kick FGs? I think the Lions come in thinking its all or nothing wanting TDs...?My Hanson prediction:0/1 - missed 47 yarder3 - PATPackers 38 - Lions 21Rodgers - 330, 5 TDs

I think normally DET has enough firepower to keep it somewhat close but I am concerned about the conditions. If it's 21-7 or something in the 1st half, DET just isn't going to attempt many FG's. There's no one substantially above him in the FBG ranking available so I'll probably roll with him. Lots of poor conditions today.

 

[tkrull]

Yur not gettin me again, with one of these Alomstfearfull storms..

How about a guy like Hanson today? He's been solid, been dome kickers in wintry conditions....

I'm sitting Hanson for Vinatieri...therefore expect a big day from Hanson.

 

[kegger]

Yes in Bad weather I would look for other Kicker options..

 

[Hurl Bruce]

I just dropped Hanson for Dawson and am seriously considering playing Russel Wilson over Stafford.

 

[loose circuits]

Yes in Bad weather I would look for other Kicker options..

sometimes kickers have scored more points because offense stalls in red zone where there is less roomfor the record, by starting this thread I wasn't advising sitting anyone. Was just curious what others were doing

 

[THE SNOWMAN]

as someone said in another thread, won't snow benefit the offense, WRs and RBs because they kn9w where they are going; Defense doesnt

I don't think the defense ever knows where the offense is going.

It's really quite an advantage isn't it?

If you think about it, it really is remarkable how well some defenses play. I mean, for the most part it's all reactive. How a defender can stay with a WR even though that WR could be running any type of route, is simply amazing.

 

[Bri]

When did they go to naming storms?

I think last year... I lived in Wisconsin all my life and someone said a storm name to me that was from Kentucky and I thought he was high. I tell you they must be To the point though:

Rodgers in December Regular Season @ Home: (excluding post season as it would be better teams than the Lions with more on the line)

2008 -

19/30 - 295 - 2 TD - 1 INT (21-24 Loss)

21/31 - 308 - 3 TD - 0 INT (31-21 Win)

2009 -

26/40 - 263 - 3 TD - 2 INT (27-14 Win)

12/23 - 237 - 1 TD - 0 INT (48-10 Win)

2010 -

21/30 - 298 - 3 TD - 0 INT (34-16 Win)

25/37 - 404 - 4 TD - 0 INT (45-17 Win)

19/28 - 221 - 1 TD - 1 INT (10-3 Win)

2011 -

17/30 - 281 - 2 TD - 1 INT (46-16 Win)

21/29 - 283 - 5 TD - 0 INT (35-21 Win)

2012 -

27/35 - 286 - 1 TD - 1 INT (23-14 Win)

Also its Favre and not Rodgers but one of the bigger snow storms Lambaeu has seen in years was in 2008:

http://scores.espn.g...ameId=280112009

Thanks for pulling the stats above. Very interesting. A couple observations:1. The issue isn't that this is a December game. The issue is that it will snow.

2. In the specific game you referenced for Favre, the Pack threw 23 times and ran 35 times. That's exactly what people appear to fear this week.

i don't fear that kind of balance today - the Pack couldn't run 35 times if they had to. But, if there is an impact on the passing game, that would be bad news. I am going with Rodgers, and expecting a heavy dose of short passes to Cobb if the weather is a factor.

Maybe so, but then Cobb's wheels will be hard to tackle with defenders feet planted into snow.Big WRs and TEs seem to benefit like the little CBs gotta think about planting their feet before they leap and normally they just leap...but then they start to just keying their hits better and shellacking the big receiver right when he catches it.

Snow doesn't seem to affect FF at the end of the games. During it, it seems to while you're watching, but then they show stats on the TV screen and the totals are usually fairly normal.

 

[rickyg]

Disregard all weather related threads whe thinking of who to tart and who not to start. Atmospheric Caesar my ####.

Fool me once...

 

[Bri]

as someone said in another thread, won't snow benefit the offense, WRs and RBs because they kn9w where they are going; Defense doesnt

I don't think the defense ever knows where the offense is going.

It's really quite an advantage isn't it?

It is very common for the D to know where the offense is going. Gibbs and BP took this tactic from old coaches and pushed it in the 80s, many coaches ever since especially current N former Steelers and Giants coaches. It can be extremely demoralizing to a D to know right where the RB is going to run, yet they are blocked so well the offense does well on the play. Enough of those in a row will force a D to play uncharacteristically poor, pointing fingers at each other etc. They want the DC to react and sub lesser players to stop the run, then they may have less athletic players in to stop the pass or to get outside for a different run play. It really dramatically affects a D when they do it and offensive linemen absolutely love it. It flat out fired up Gibbs' Hogs.

 

[Jewell]

The Winter Storm Caesar gives the to Lions and Packers players.

 

[Statorama]

Shouldn't have a negative impact on anyone other than the Kickers and Cobb. Every other skill position player has the build to thrive in these conditions. If you're counting on Cobb tonight, you might want to take a peek at your other options.

(smaller receivers can get blown up at the line in slick, snowy conditions. they also typically count on their wheels rather than their strength, which hurts them in slippery conditions)

 

[Statorama]

The reports of snow today in Wisconsin is no joke. Big flakes, heavy winds.

 

[Bri]

The reports of snow today in Wisconsin is no joke. Big flakes, heavy winds.

lol many people believe big flakes mean a storm is ending

 

[Statorama]

The reports of snow today in Wisconsin is no joke. Big flakes, heavy winds.

lol many people believe big flakes mean a storm is ending

I wish. Been snowing like that for about 4 hours straight.

 

[Dentist]

man, i'm nervous about Rodgers tonight.... and i need a pretty decent game out of him.

weather and fantasy football don't mix

 

[Statorama]

man, i'm nervous about Rodgers tonight.... and i need a pretty decent game out of him.weather and fantasy football don't mix

Rodgers should be fine. The Jennings/Finley/Driver type receivers thrive in these kind of conditions.I'd feel better if he had a running game, but with the fireworks that Detroit is going to be able to put up today (Johnson/Pettigrew should have awesome games)Rodgers will almost be forced to put it up (against that bad D)

 

[Kleck]

The field will be wet, but it won't be Soldier Field sloppy.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Update?

I kept Hanson in ....

 

[Hopeless Lions Fan]

Where's the snow?

 

[Statorama]

Where's the snow?

Pack did a phenomenal job keeping that field dry. Stopped big-time snowing about 6pm CST

 

[Hopeless Lions Fan]

Where's the snow?

Pack did a phenomenal job keeping that field dry. Stopped big-time snowing about 6pm CST

Oh come on. They showed outside the stadium. There was like an inch at most.

 

[Dark Matter]

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[loose circuits]

Cobb making drops, ball slipping out of Stafford's hand. There was an impact but just not that significant

 

[rickyg]

Cobb making drops, ball slipping out of Stafford's hand. There was an impact but just not that significant

There was no more impact than a regular snowy day in Green Bay.