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The only way to get around not offending anyone is to go back to currency that just had random figures on them rather than specific people. Of course we'd have to change the "types" of people from what we used to go with as Native Americans in full head-dress are probably not PC anymore, and we tried showing lady liberty with her boob showing, and that was censored.
These are kinda cool: http://travispurrington.com/211378/2317660/gallery/2014-usd-proposal

I wouldn't mind a full currency redesign. There used to be a lot more variety on our money and some of it actually served a purpose (the "educational" series). I'm not tied down to the idea of the same 6 or 7 dudes on everything.
There's actually a really good podcast about currency. 99% Invisible is the podcast, the episode is called "The Color of Money." It goes into detail on different design features of money. The one point it makes is that the ideal currency would be easily differentiatable by denomination, and that basically, the US currency sucks at all of the key aspects.

They highlight that currencies should have a color theme, and a size theme...bigger bills are worth more, etc. They also are for the newer polymer banknotes, which are more plastic than paper. They said that they're very durable, harder to counterfit, and have side-benfits of being easily "washable" and you don't freak out of they get wet or dirty. For example, you could easily wash a bill off if you were one of those types of guys who would give Chaos a $50 and ask for change back.

I'd be for a full re-design, but I think with all the recent changes, that would be a long ways out.
And if we do that, we need to ditch the penny and nickle too. Costs more to make those than they're worth. We spent $90million last year on making pennies and nickles (and that's with the actual value of the coins subtracted)

 
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The only way to get around not offending anyone is to go back to currency that just had random figures on them rather than specific people. Of course we'd have to change the "types" of people from what we used to go with as Native Americans in full head-dress are probably not PC anymore, and we tried showing lady liberty with her boob showing, and that was censored.
These are kinda cool: http://travispurrington.com/211378/2317660/gallery/2014-usd-proposal

I wouldn't mind a full currency redesign. There used to be a lot more variety on our money and some of it actually served a purpose (the "educational" series). I'm not tied down to the idea of the same 6 or 7 dudes on everything.
There's actually a really good podcast about currency. 99% Invisible is the podcast, the episode is called "The Color of Money." It goes into detail on different design features of money. The one point it makes is that the ideal currency would be easily differentiatable by denomination, and that basically, the US currency sucks at all of the key aspects.

They highlight that currencies should have a color theme, and a size theme...bigger bills are worth more, etc. They also are for the newer polymer banknotes, which are more plastic than paper. They said that they're very durable, harder to counterfit, and have side-benfits of being easily "washable" and you don't freak out of they get wet or dirty. For example, you could easily wash a bill off if you were one of those types of guys who would give Chaos a $50 and ask for change back.

I'd be for a full re-design, but I think with all the recent changes, that would be a long ways out.
Different size notes would be a pain in the ###.
Variations on size, or some other tactile difference, are pretty much necessary for the blind.
So PITA for me or PITA for blind people?

 
The only way to get around not offending anyone is to go back to currency that just had random figures on them rather than specific people. Of course we'd have to change the "types" of people from what we used to go with as Native Americans in full head-dress are probably not PC anymore, and we tried showing lady liberty with her boob showing, and that was censored.
These are kinda cool: http://travispurrington.com/211378/2317660/gallery/2014-usd-proposal

I wouldn't mind a full currency redesign. There used to be a lot more variety on our money and some of it actually served a purpose (the "educational" series). I'm not tied down to the idea of the same 6 or 7 dudes on everything.
There's actually a really good podcast about currency. 99% Invisible is the podcast, the episode is called "The Color of Money." It goes into detail on different design features of money. The one point it makes is that the ideal currency would be easily differentiatable by denomination, and that basically, the US currency sucks at all of the key aspects.

They highlight that currencies should have a color theme, and a size theme...bigger bills are worth more, etc. They also are for the newer polymer banknotes, which are more plastic than paper. They said that they're very durable, harder to counterfit, and have side-benfits of being easily "washable" and you don't freak out of they get wet or dirty. For example, you could easily wash a bill off if you were one of those types of guys who would give Chaos a $50 and ask for change back.

I'd be for a full re-design, but I think with all the recent changes, that would be a long ways out.
Different size notes would be a pain in the ###.
Variations on size, or some other tactile difference, are pretty much necessary for the blind.
So PITA for me or PITA for blind people?
Seems like raised numbers would suffice. Helps the blind, no inconvenience for those that can see.

 
The only way to get around not offending anyone is to go back to currency that just had random figures on them rather than specific people. Of course we'd have to change the "types" of people from what we used to go with as Native Americans in full head-dress are probably not PC anymore, and we tried showing lady liberty with her boob showing, and that was censored.
These are kinda cool: http://travispurrington.com/211378/2317660/gallery/2014-usd-proposal

I wouldn't mind a full currency redesign. There used to be a lot more variety on our money and some of it actually served a purpose (the "educational" series). I'm not tied down to the idea of the same 6 or 7 dudes on everything.
There's actually a really good podcast about currency. 99% Invisible is the podcast, the episode is called "The Color of Money." It goes into detail on different design features of money. The one point it makes is that the ideal currency would be easily differentiatable by denomination, and that basically, the US currency sucks at all of the key aspects.

They highlight that currencies should have a color theme, and a size theme...bigger bills are worth more, etc. They also are for the newer polymer banknotes, which are more plastic than paper. They said that they're very durable, harder to counterfit, and have side-benfits of being easily "washable" and you don't freak out of they get wet or dirty. For example, you could easily wash a bill off if you were one of those types of guys who would give Chaos a $50 and ask for change back.

I'd be for a full re-design, but I think with all the recent changes, that would be a long ways out.
And if we do that, we need to ditch the penny and nickle too. Costs more to make those than they're worth. We spent $90million last year on making pennies and nickles (and that's with the actual value of the coins subtracted)
At least pennies and nickels last awhile. A $1 bill typically lasts about 18 months (a $20 lasts 4 years). Coins typically last about 25 years. I've long wondered why we didn't scrap the $1 for a coin like many other countries. Seems like it would be cheaper over the long haul.

 
The only way to get around not offending anyone is to go back to currency that just had random figures on them rather than specific people. Of course we'd have to change the "types" of people from what we used to go with as Native Americans in full head-dress are probably not PC anymore, and we tried showing lady liberty with her boob showing, and that was censored.
These are kinda cool: http://travispurrington.com/211378/2317660/gallery/2014-usd-proposal

I wouldn't mind a full currency redesign. There used to be a lot more variety on our money and some of it actually served a purpose (the "educational" series). I'm not tied down to the idea of the same 6 or 7 dudes on everything.
There's actually a really good podcast about currency. 99% Invisible is the podcast, the episode is called "The Color of Money." It goes into detail on different design features of money. The one point it makes is that the ideal currency would be easily differentiatable by denomination, and that basically, the US currency sucks at all of the key aspects.

They highlight that currencies should have a color theme, and a size theme...bigger bills are worth more, etc. They also are for the newer polymer banknotes, which are more plastic than paper. They said that they're very durable, harder to counterfit, and have side-benfits of being easily "washable" and you don't freak out of they get wet or dirty. For example, you could easily wash a bill off if you were one of those types of guys who would give Chaos a $50 and ask for change back.

I'd be for a full re-design, but I think with all the recent changes, that would be a long ways out.
And if we do that, we need to ditch the penny and nickle too. Costs more to make those than they're worth. We spent $90million last year on making pennies and nickles (and that's with the actual value of the coins subtracted)
At least pennies and nickels last awhile. A $1 bill typically lasts about 18 months (a $20 lasts 4 years). Coins typically last about 25 years. I've long wondered why we didn't scrap the $1 for a coin like many other countries. Seems like it would be cheaper over the long haul.
Because coins are a PITA too.

 
The only way to get around not offending anyone is to go back to currency that just had random figures on them rather than specific people. Of course we'd have to change the "types" of people from what we used to go with as Native Americans in full head-dress are probably not PC anymore, and we tried showing lady liberty with her boob showing, and that was censored.
These are kinda cool: http://travispurrington.com/211378/2317660/gallery/2014-usd-proposal

I wouldn't mind a full currency redesign. There used to be a lot more variety on our money and some of it actually served a purpose (the "educational" series). I'm not tied down to the idea of the same 6 or 7 dudes on everything.
There's actually a really good podcast about currency. 99% Invisible is the podcast, the episode is called "The Color of Money." It goes into detail on different design features of money. The one point it makes is that the ideal currency would be easily differentiatable by denomination, and that basically, the US currency sucks at all of the key aspects.

They highlight that currencies should have a color theme, and a size theme...bigger bills are worth more, etc. They also are for the newer polymer banknotes, which are more plastic than paper. They said that they're very durable, harder to counterfit, and have side-benfits of being easily "washable" and you don't freak out of they get wet or dirty. For example, you could easily wash a bill off if you were one of those types of guys who would give Chaos a $50 and ask for change back.

I'd be for a full re-design, but I think with all the recent changes, that would be a long ways out.
And if we do that, we need to ditch the penny and nickle too. Costs more to make those than they're worth. We spent $90million last year on making pennies and nickles (and that's with the actual value of the coins subtracted)
At least pennies and nickels last awhile. A $1 bill typically lasts about 18 months (a $20 lasts 4 years). Coins typically last about 25 years. I've long wondered why we didn't scrap the $1 for a coin like many other countries. Seems like it would be cheaper over the long haul.
The $1 coin isn't popular with Americans and politicians don't like to do unpopular things.

 
All this talk about changing currency baffles me. The only time I ever even use cash is at a vending machine. Even my daughter's little league concession stand takes credit cards now. I probably take out $20 a year from the ATM and can get by for the year. :shrug:
I agree and I'm the same way. I charge everything I can. I mean, if Discover is going to give me a Cash Back Bonus on a candy bar, I'm gonna take it. But with that said, I think there will always be a need for a tangible currency. The funny thing is that I think a lot of this need is driven by less-than-legal stuff. Paying employees under the table, illegal goods transactions, etc. Not to mention that there are a lot of folks who have no/very little credit and still rely on checks and cash. Regardless, as much as I agree, we still need cash.

 
Why does currency need anyone on it?

Frankly, i'd love to start eliminating most currency as it is.

the penny is stupid enough, i've wanted it gone for 20 years.. now it's to the point the nickel needs to go also.

I've been throwing pennies either in the trash, putting them on my running boards and seeing how far i could drive before they fell off (often weeks), putting them in the pockets of clothing on the stores at the mall, etc for years.

Easily $8-10 worth of pennies i've destroyed or discarded over the last 20 years.

Most of the time at the register if I do use cash I just say "no pennies please"

I'm tempted to do the same with nickels and dimes.... really only quarters are worthwhile for video games and vending machines.

 
Why does currency need anyone on it?

Frankly, i'd love to start eliminating most currency as it is.

the penny is stupid enough, i've wanted it gone for 20 years.. now it's to the point the nickel needs to go also.

I've been throwing pennies either in the trash, putting them on my running boards and seeing how far i could drive before they fell off (often weeks), putting them in the pockets of clothing on the stores at the mall, etc for years.

Easily $8-10 worth of pennies i've destroyed or discarded over the last 20 years.

Most of the time at the register if I do use cash I just say "no pennies please"

I'm tempted to do the same with nickels and dimes.... really only quarters are worthwhile for video games and vending machines.
Sacrilege for someone as frugal as you.

 
Why does currency need anyone on it?

Frankly, i'd love to start eliminating most currency as it is.

the penny is stupid enough, i've wanted it gone for 20 years.. now it's to the point the nickel needs to go also.

I've been throwing pennies either in the trash, putting them on my running boards and seeing how far i could drive before they fell off (often weeks), putting them in the pockets of clothing on the stores at the mall, etc for years.

Easily $8-10 worth of pennies i've destroyed or discarded over the last 20 years.

Most of the time at the register if I do use cash I just say "no pennies please"

I'm tempted to do the same with nickels and dimes.... really only quarters are worthwhile for video games and vending machines.
Sacrilege for someone as frugal as you.
There's frugal, and there's stupid.

Pennies are stupid and nickels aren't much smarter

 
Variations on size, or some other tactile difference, are pretty much necessary for the blind.
So PITA for me or PITA for blind people?
Seems like raised numbers would suffice. Helps the blind, no inconvenience for those that can see.
Not an expert, but I'd think if they went with raised numbers or braille on bills, it'd be possible to get like a notary stamp thing to fake it. Stamp one bill as another. Not sure exactly how useful it would be unless you knew you were gonna screw over a blind guy in the next day or two.

But I mean, for now, all the blind have to go on is that the guy giving them change honestly tells them which are ones and which are twenties. So any little bit helps.
I think most of us could tell the difference between a dollar bill and a piece of paper of the same size if blindfolded. I'd imagine a blind person definitely could. So not sure how a notary stamp would help. They would need to counterfeit the entire bill plus the embossed numbers. So if anything, it makes counterfeiting even more difficult.

 
All the dudes who never carry cash because they "see it as unnecessary" might be afraid to carry cash if it had a woman printed on it. I think the threat to wimpy dudes' masculinity is one reason we will never see it happen.

 
I would love to keep a few five-hundos in my pocket. It would add even more to the novelty if it had a chick's face on it. It would have to be an attractive woman though. I can't imagine the female-equivalent of George Washington's face, that would be gross. Needs to be hot.

 
Because this is a really important issue that will affect the lives of millions of Americans.

Where are we on changing the official spelling of women to womyn?

 
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I'll be damned if I have cash in my wallet, mainly because when I wake up in the morning either the wife or kids have taken it :rant:

 
Why do they want to do this? Is it because they really want to put a woman on a piece of currency, or because of Andrew Jackson's baggage? If it is the latter, then it could have some pretty large ramifications. How many roads, schools, parks, etc. are named after a historical figure that could have something bad associated with their names?

Isn't Sacajawea on a coin anyways?

 
It's true. Of all presidential reputations, Andrew Jackson's is perhaps the most difficult to summarize or explain. Hardly a day passes when I don't question the ramifications of his actions.

 
All this talk about changing currency baffles me. The only time I ever even use cash is at a vending machine. Even my daughter's little league concession stand takes credit cards now. I probably take out $20 a year from the ATM and can get by for the year. :shrug:
I agree and I'm the same way. I charge everything I can. I mean, if Discover is going to give me a Cash Back Bonus on a candy bar, I'm gonna take it. But with that said, I think there will always be a need for a tangible currency. The funny thing is that I think a lot of this need is driven by less-than-legal stuff. Paying employees under the table, illegal goods transactions, etc. Not to mention that there are a lot of folks who have no/very little credit and still rely on checks and cash. Regardless, as much as I agree, we still need cash.
There is a huge segment of the population who uses only cash. It's alien to me but real. I used to do work for a utility. One of the biggest expenses we had other than the acquisition of electricity and gas was the payment centers. Huge cash drain to staff them. But over 38% of our customers paid there, even with online payment, automatic draft, and phone payment options. The vast majority of those customers who used the payment centers did not pay with a check card, credit card, or even check. They paid with money orders or straight cash. Damnedest thing I've even seen. I always knew there were folks who lived that way, I just never appreciated how many of them there are.

 
All this talk about changing currency baffles me. The only time I ever even use cash is at a vending machine. Even my daughter's little league concession stand takes credit cards now. I probably take out $20 a year from the ATM and can get by for the year. :shrug:
I agree and I'm the same way. I charge everything I can. I mean, if Discover is going to give me a Cash Back Bonus on a candy bar, I'm gonna take it. But with that said, I think there will always be a need for a tangible currency. The funny thing is that I think a lot of this need is driven by less-than-legal stuff. Paying employees under the table, illegal goods transactions, etc. Not to mention that there are a lot of folks who have no/very little credit and still rely on checks and cash. Regardless, as much as I agree, we still need cash.
There is a huge segment of the population who uses only cash. It's alien to me but real. I used to do work for a utility. One of the biggest expenses we had other than the acquisition of electricity and gas was the payment centers. Huge cash drain to staff them. But over 38% of our customers paid there, even with online payment, automatic draft, and phone payment options. The vast majority of those customers who used the payment centers did not pay with a check card, credit card, or even check. They paid with money orders or straight cash. Damnedest thing I've even seen. I always knew there were folks who lived that way, I just never appreciated how many of them there are.
I agree. I used to see "those people" in my cell phone stores. They'd come in, having no credit, and require a $1,000 deposit to open a cell phone line. They'd pay that deposit with 10 - $100 bills...then, they'd be the same ones coming in every month to pay their cell phone bill in cash. They weren't necessarily poor, they just used cash for everything.

My guess is that a lot of them owned their own businesses and they just skimmed A LOT. As long as cash is the only real "non-traceable" means of transferring value, it'll have a place in our society just because people know they can use it to get away with things that otherwise might draw the eye of the government.

 
I think most of the people who wear watches these days do it as a fashion accessory. It can't be to check the time seeing as there are clocks on everything. They are pretty much just man bracelet's.

 
I think most of the people who wear watches these days do it as a fashion accessory. It can't be to check the time seeing as there are clocks on everything. They are pretty much just man bracelet's.
Some people like to combine form with function. Like spending a lot on a cool looking jacket because "it's really warm".

 
I think most of the people who wear watches these days do it as a fashion accessory. It can't be to check the time seeing as there are clocks on everything. They are pretty much just man bracelet's.
Yup. I have 3 watches. I wear them when I need to dress up some. One has a battery that's been dead for months. I still wear it.

 
This is BS. Women on currency and yet not a single man in the shape of a syrup bottle? Harrumph.

 
Variations on size, or some other tactile difference, are pretty much necessary for the blind.
So PITA for me or PITA for blind people?
Seems like raised numbers would suffice. Helps the blind, no inconvenience for those that can see.
Not an expert, but I'd think if they went with raised numbers or braille on bills, it'd be possible to get like a notary stamp thing to fake it. Stamp one bill as another. Not sure exactly how useful it would be unless you knew you were gonna screw over a blind guy in the next day or two.

But I mean, for now, all the blind have to go on is that the guy giving them change honestly tells them which are ones and which are twenties. So any little bit helps.
I think most of us could tell the difference between a dollar bill and a piece of paper of the same size if blindfolded. I'd imagine a blind person definitely could. So not sure how a notary stamp would help. They would need to counterfeit the entire bill plus the embossed numbers. So if anything, it makes counterfeiting even more difficult.
I meant that a stamp could flatten the embossed "1" from a one and put a "20". The paper would be the same.
I doubt you can ever really flatten them. Recently found some old paperwork that had a notary type pressed seal on it. Despite having several pounds of weight on it for several years, it was still raised. Not as much as it originally was, but still rather noticeable.

 
I have $82 in cash in my wallet. I had no idea. Couldn't even tell you how long it has been in there. At least since February, I think, since the only commodity I need to purchase with cash is marijuana. Can't wait for the marijuana stores to take credit cards (stupid Federal government and banking industry jack###es).

 
Why do they want to do this? Is it because they really want to put a woman on a piece of currency, or because of Andrew Jackson's baggage? If it is the latter, then it could have some pretty large ramifications. How many roads, schools, parks, etc. are named after a historical figure that could have something bad associated with their names?

Isn't Sacajawea on a coin anyways?
:shrug: 1 2 3 4 Lady Liberty

 
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Only notable woman from american history besides Anthony and Sackajawheeah is Lucille Ball.

Harriet Tubman comes to mind but no way they put a black woman on money.

 
That is a good point. When you go into a small business such as a postal annex or something and buy something for like three or four dollars, you don't realize it but you are really pissing them off. Same thing when you buy a pack of gum with plastic from an owner-operated convenience store.

 

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