Worst Team(s) in 2008 (1 Viewer)

[Unlucky]

At first glance, I'd have to say Baltimore is the worst team in baseball. With their division, their schedule is one of the toughest. Devil Rays showed some signs of life late last year, so it looks like the O's will be at the bottom. Tejada gone, Bedard gone, leaving just about nothing on this roster. 105 losses?

Tampa Bay won't be great, but should be better than last year. White Sox or Royals lose 100+? I don't think either are that bad, but they could make a run at it. Texas doesn't look much better than last year, either.

In the NL, I think there is more balance. Pittsburgh will be better than last year, but I'm not expecting much. Unlikely they lose 100.

SF has a nice young pitching staff which should keep them in enough games.

How bad will Florida be? The worst team in the NL? They seem to still have some nice young talent, so maybe we'll see a 2nd half run?

The Nationals turned things around after a terrible start last year. They have some good pitching, but everyone kept getting hurt last year. New ballpark might create some excitement.

 

[KiddLattimer]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

 

[MAC_32]

-Baltimore will lose 100+

-I think there's a good chance Florida loses 100+

-I think one of St Louis or Pittsburgh loses 100+, although them being in the same division may help them both not reach such a level of futility keeping them both in the 90-95 loss range

-I think San Fran loses 90-some games but their pitching prevents them from losing 100+

-I do not believe any of Oakland, Texas, and KC will be competitive but I also do not believe any will flirt with 100 losses

 

[guru_007]

SF is old and bad and play in a tough division. They should be able to rack up the most losses.

Florida is young and plays in a tough division. Could be a long season for Marlin fans. I think they have the second most losses.

Pittsburgh is perennially bad and I don't see any reason to be optimistic this year either. This will be another losing season, probably only 90-95 losses though.

If Pujols goes down early, St Louis has a good shot of losing 100 too.

In the AL, Baltimore is young and plays in the toughest division in baseball. They have a great shot of losing 100.

 

[culdeus]

If Texas loses a 100 game in this division this year I'll be done with this thing for good till Hicks is gone.

 

[shadyridr]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

I thought the same thing but Cain, Lincecum, Zito make a heck of a top 3. And in that division with the weak offenses and good pitching staffs they should be able to win over 70 games IMO.BAL should be the worst team in baseball. Although a sleeper for worst team could be STL

 

[MAC_32]

If Texas loses a 100 game in this division this year I'll be done with this thing for good till Hicks is gone.

They won 70+ last year and arguably improved themselves in the offseason. Why are they a candidate for 100+ losses?

 

[Your Mother]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

I thought the same thing but Cain, Lincecum, Zito make a heck of a top 3. And in that division with the weak offenses and good pitching staffs they should be able to win over 70 games IMO.BAL should be the worst team in baseball. Although a sleeper for worst team could be STL

Zito?I like Cain and Lincecum, but I think it's too easy to minimize the impact that Bonds had on their offense, even an over-the-hill Bonds. Their offense is now the worst in baseball. Their pen is horrible. There is really almost nothing to like about them. They don't even have a plethora of great young players coming up.

 

[culdeus]

If Texas loses a 100 game in this division this year I'll be done with this thing for good till Hicks is gone.

They won 70+ last year and arguably improved themselves in the offseason. Why are they a candidate for 100+ losses?

The OP said so.

 

[shadyridr]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

I thought the same thing but Cain, Lincecum, Zito make a heck of a top 3. And in that division with the weak offenses and good pitching staffs they should be able to win over 70 games IMO.BAL should be the worst team in baseball. Although a sleeper for worst team could be STL

Zito?I like Cain and Lincecum, but I think it's too easy to minimize the impact that Bonds had on their offense, even an over-the-hill Bonds. Their offense is now the worst in baseball. Their pen is horrible. There is really almost nothing to like about them. They don't even have a plethora of great young players coming up.

Ignoring the money aspect of Zito (which has no basis in this argument), you're telling me that a pitcher that threw 200 innings with a 1.35 WHIP and a .244 BAA is bad for a #3 starter? Dont get me wrong that was a HORRIBLE contract but hes a solid #3.

 

[Eephus]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

I thought the same thing but Cain, Lincecum, Zito make a heck of a top 3. And in that division with the weak offenses and good pitching staffs they should be able to win over 70 games IMO.BAL should be the worst team in baseball. Although a sleeper for worst team could be STL

Zito?I like Cain and Lincecum, but I think it's too easy to minimize the impact that Bonds had on their offense, even an over-the-hill Bonds. Their offense is now the worst in baseball. Their pen is horrible. There is really almost nothing to like about them. They don't even have a plethora of great young players coming up.

I take it a plethora > 1 The Giants will be bad but I think the Orioles will be worse. I don't know if either will suck enough to lose 100 though.

 

[Your Mother]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

I thought the same thing but Cain, Lincecum, Zito make a heck of a top 3. And in that division with the weak offenses and good pitching staffs they should be able to win over 70 games IMO.BAL should be the worst team in baseball. Although a sleeper for worst team could be STL

Zito?I like Cain and Lincecum, but I think it's too easy to minimize the impact that Bonds had on their offense, even an over-the-hill Bonds. Their offense is now the worst in baseball. Their pen is horrible. There is really almost nothing to like about them. They don't even have a plethora of great young players coming up.

Ignoring the money aspect of Zito (which has no basis in this argument), you're telling me that a pitcher that threw 200 innings with a 1.35 WHIP and a .244 BAA is bad for a #3 starter? Dont get me wrong that was a HORRIBLE contract but hes a solid #3.

I am ignoring the money aspect.The only useful starting pitchers with a K/BB under 2 are extreme-groundball types.He walks a lot of guys, throws a lot of pitches, doesn't get that many K's anymore, and he's GB/FB neutral. The only thing going for him is that he plays in a park that covers up a world of hurt, and that helps the opposition just as much as it helps him, obviously.Zito stinks.

 

[Unlucky]

Any thoughts on the Royals or Marlins? They are near the bottom when wagering on total wins for the season. Justifiably so?

 

[Regular Crust Pizza]

Got to go with the O's in the AL, and it's a toss up between SF and Pitt in the NL.

SF will be somewhere between 90-95 losses but I don't see them hitting a hundred, only because of their pitching.

 

[Eephus]

Any thoughts on the Royals or Marlins? They are near the bottom when wagering on total wins for the season. Justifiably so?

The Royals have a chance of escaping the cellar. Butler and Gordon are good young hitters and KC's rotation isn't as bad as in recent years. They're still far from a good team but I don't see them losing 100.Who knows about the Marlins? They surprised last year but have lost the cornerstone of their offense and pitching staff. If Hanley regresses and the pitching blows up, 100 losses is a possibility.

 

[MAC_32]

Any thoughts on the Royals or Marlins? They are near the bottom when wagering on total wins for the season. Justifiably so?

The Royals have a chance of escaping the cellar. Butler and Gordon are good young hitters and KC's rotation isn't as bad as in recent years. They're still far from a good team but I don't see them losing 100.

The bullpen's not too bad either, especially if the *** import pans out. Guillen seems to have fallen a bit on deaf ears too, he's exactly the type of cheap relatively young vet run producer they've been looking for. I'm expecting an uptick from DeJesus too. He was a little on the "unlucky side" in 07, given the amount of balls in play he should have had a better avg than the 260 avg he did. I think he can get back up to the 290 range which will offer more RBI opps for Teahen, Guillen, and Butler. I too think the Boiles can get out of the cellar.

 

[Tom Servo]

90-94 losses: TEX

95-99 losses: BAL, FLA, SF and OAK

100+ losses: PIT

 

[whoknew]

Nobody will lose more than 100 games.

 

[cobalt_27]

Nobody will lose more than 100 games.

Baltimore sure will.

 

[Balco]

Some comments on the teams mentioned:

Baltimore: We have a winner! This team is atrocious. Nick Markakis and not much else (Brian Roberts will be gone sooner rather than later). They don't have 1 solid starter (teams figured out Guthrie in the 2nd half), and their pen is horrible.

Pittsburgh: Talent wise, they are the worst team in the NL.

Kansas City: This team is actually pretty good. I don't see them losing 90 games. Their pen is actually pretty good, and they are not devoid of starters. And their offense isn't going to be bad. Guillen, Gordon, Butler, and Teahan is not a bad core.

Texas: Pitching is always going to be a problem here, but if you are going to pick a team to lose 90 in that division, pick the A's.

San Francisco: Their starters are not 100 loss worthy, but their batting is. One thing I think will keep them in games is their defense. Rowand is going to help them alot (although it was a horrible signing).

 

[Eephus]

Some comments on the teams mentioned:

Baltimore: We have a winner! This team is atrocious. Nick Markakis and not much else (Brian Roberts will be gone sooner rather than later). They don't have 1 solid starter (teams figured out Guthrie in the 2nd half), and their pen is horrible.

Pittsburgh: Talent wise, they are the worst team in the NL.

Kansas City: This team is actually pretty good. I don't see them losing 90 games. Their pen is actually pretty good, and they are not devoid of starters. And their offense isn't going to be bad. Guillen, Gordon, Butler, and Teahan is not a bad core.

Texas: Pitching is always going to be a problem here, but if you are going to pick a team to lose 90 in that division, pick the A's.

San Francisco: Their starters are not 100 loss worthy, but their batting is. One thing I think will keep them in games is their defense. Rowand is going to help them alot (although it was a horrible signing).

Florida belongs in this equation. Their pitching is worse than Pittsburgh's, especially if Olsen and Sanchez can't go.

 

[JaxBill]

Marlins all depend on the health of Mitre and Olsen. They've got nobody behind those two. Mitre was the Marlin's best SP through the first half of the year. He really slowed down after the innings piled up.

They still have Hanley Ramirez and Uggla up the middle. Who knows if Cameron Maybin will hit enough to use his speed.

I could see them losing 95 but I think they have enough young talent to avoid losing 100. I also think people overestimate the loss of Dontrelle. He was either gonna strike out a dozen or get torched for 7 runs.

 

[cheese]

Marlins all depend on the health of Mitre and Olsen. They've got nobody behind those two. Mitre was the Marlin's best SP through the first half of the year. He really slowed down after the innings piled up.

They still have Hanley Ramirez and Uggla up the middle. Who knows if Cameron Maybin will hit enough to use his speed.

I could see them losing 95 but I think they have enough young talent to avoid losing 100. I also think people overestimate the loss of Dontrelle. He was either gonna strike out a dozen or get torched for 7 runs.

Completely agree about Willis. However, of the teams we're talking about being horrible they're probably in the hardest division with the possible exception of Baltimore. I think the Mets/Phils/Braves stomp these guys all year.

 

[schlesinj]

At first glance, I'd have to say Baltimore is the worst team in baseball. With their division, their schedule is one of the toughest. Devil Rays showed some signs of life late last year, so it looks like the O's will be at the bottom. Tejada gone, Bedard gone, leaving just about nothing on this roster. 105 losses?

Tampa Bay won't be great, but should be better than last year. White Sox or Royals lose 100+? I don't think either are that bad, but they could make a run at it. Texas doesn't look much better than last year, either.

In the NL, I think there is more balance. Pittsburgh will be better than last year, but I'm not expecting much. Unlikely they lose 100.

SF has a nice young pitching staff which should keep them in enough games.

How bad will Florida be? The worst team in the NL? They seem to still have some nice young talent, so maybe we'll see a 2nd half run?

The Nationals turned things around after a terrible start last year. They have some good pitching, but everyone kept getting hurt last year. New ballpark might create some excitement.

Get ready to be surprised.

 

[avoiding injuries]

 

[MAC_32]

Marlins all depend on the health of Mitre and Olsen. They've got nobody behind those two. Mitre was the Marlin's best SP through the first half of the year. He really slowed down after the innings piled up.They still have Hanley Ramirez and Uggla up the middle. Who knows if Cameron Maybin will hit enough to use his speed. I could see them losing 95 but I think they have enough young talent to avoid losing 100. I also think people overestimate the loss of Dontrelle. He was either gonna strike out a dozen or get torched for 7 runs.

Whoever the Fish find to fill Willis' 200+ innings will be much worse than Willis was.

 

[phillyfan72]

I'm afraid my O's will be losing 100 games this year. It's gonna be a long year at Camden Yards.

 

[Alias]

65.5 Orioles

68.5 Pirates

69.5 Marlins

2008 MLB Regular Season Wins: MLB Regular Season Wins

Arizona Diamondbacks

Over 87 games -116

Under 87 games +100

Atlanta Braves

Over 85.5 games -108

Under 85.5 games -108

Baltimore Orioles

Over 65.5 games -108

Under 65.5 games -108

Boston Red Sox

Over 93.5 games -116

Under 93.5 games +100

Chicago Cubs

Over 87.5 games -116

Under 87.5 games +100

Chicago White Sox

Over 77.5 games -108

Under 77.5 games -108

Cincinnati Reds

Over 78 games -112

Under 78 games -104

Cleveland Indians

Over 90.5 games +100

Under 90.5 games -116

Colorado Rockies

Over 83.5 games -108

Under 83.5 games -108

Detroit Tigers

Over 93.5 games +114

Under 93.5 games -130

Florida Marlins

Over 69.5 games -106

Under 69.5 games -110

Houston Astros

Over 74.5 games -114

Under 74.5 games -102

Kansas City Royals

Over 73.5 games -108

Under 73.5 games -108

LAA Angels

Over 91.5 games -108

Under 91.5 games -108

Los Angeles Dodgers

Over 87 games -122

Under 87 games +106

Milwaukee Brewers

Over 84.5 games -121

Under 84.5 games +105

Minnesota Twins

Over 73.5 games -122

Under 73.5 games +106

New York Mets

Over 93.5 games +106

Under 93.5 games -122

New York Yankees

Over 94.5 games +105

Under 94.5 games -121

Oakland Athletics

Over 73.5 games -102

Under 73.5 games -114

Philadelphia Phillies

Over 87.5 games -102

Under 87.5 games -114

Pittsburgh Pirates

Over 68.5 games -140

Under 68.5 games +124

San Diego Padres

Over 84.5 games -103

Under 84.5 games -113

San Francisco Giants

Over 72 games +100

Under 72 games -116

Seattle Mariners

Over 84 games +105

Under 84 games -121

St Louis Cardinals

Over 76.5 games +120

Under 76.5 games -136

Tampa Bay Rays

Over 74.5 games -142

Under 74.5 games +126

Texas Rangers

Over 74.5 games -122

Under 74.5 games +106

Toronto Blue Jays

Over 85.5 games -126

Under 85.5 games +110

Washington Nationals

Over 71.5 games -128

Under 71.5 games +112

 

[Doctor Detroit]

If the Orioles don't lose 100 I'll be surprised. Besides them there are several 90 loss teams like the Giants, Pirates, and Marlins but those teams probably will find ways to avoid losing 100 but if I had to pick a second it would be the Giants because of that division. I think the A's will be better than people think and the Rangers will be tough depending on the day. Royals shouldn't lose 90.

Of course a few teams who are middling will suffer massive injuries and fall into the 90 loss tier and I think that could happen to a number of teams. I think the Rays might be close to .500 but if they loss 90 I really wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Balco]

Some comments on the teams mentioned:

Baltimore: We have a winner! This team is atrocious. Nick Markakis and not much else (Brian Roberts will be gone sooner rather than later). They don't have 1 solid starter (teams figured out Guthrie in the 2nd half), and their pen is horrible.

Pittsburgh: Talent wise, they are the worst team in the NL.

Kansas City: This team is actually pretty good. I don't see them losing 90 games. Their pen is actually pretty good, and they are not devoid of starters. And their offense isn't going to be bad. Guillen, Gordon, Butler, and Teahan is not a bad core.

Texas: Pitching is always going to be a problem here, but if you are going to pick a team to lose 90 in that division, pick the A's.

San Francisco: Their starters are not 100 loss worthy, but their batting is. One thing I think will keep them in games is their defense. Rowand is going to help them alot (although it was a horrible signing).

Florida belongs in this equation. Their pitching is worse than Pittsburgh's, especially if Olsen and Sanchez can't go.

Florida should be mentioned, but I don't see them hitting 100 losses.Their offense is actually decent. Ramirez is a stud, and they have Uggla, Mike Jacobs, and Jeremy Hermida.

 

[Eephus]

Some comments on the teams mentioned:

Baltimore: We have a winner! This team is atrocious. Nick Markakis and not much else (Brian Roberts will be gone sooner rather than later). They don't have 1 solid starter (teams figured out Guthrie in the 2nd half), and their pen is horrible.

Pittsburgh: Talent wise, they are the worst team in the NL.

Kansas City: This team is actually pretty good. I don't see them losing 90 games. Their pen is actually pretty good, and they are not devoid of starters. And their offense isn't going to be bad. Guillen, Gordon, Butler, and Teahan is not a bad core.

Texas: Pitching is always going to be a problem here, but if you are going to pick a team to lose 90 in that division, pick the A's.

San Francisco: Their starters are not 100 loss worthy, but their batting is. One thing I think will keep them in games is their defense. Rowand is going to help them alot (although it was a horrible signing).

Florida belongs in this equation. Their pitching is worse than Pittsburgh's, especially if Olsen and Sanchez can't go.

Florida should be mentioned, but I don't see them hitting 100 losses.Their offense is actually decent. Ramirez is a stud, and they have Uggla, Mike Jacobs, and Jeremy Hermida.

They lost 91 games last year with those guys plus Miguel Cabrera.

 

[The Ref]

-Baltimore will lose 100+-I think there's a good chance Florida loses 100+-I think one of St Louis or Pittsburgh loses 100+, although them being in the same division may help them both not reach such a level of futility keeping them both in the 90-95 loss range-I think San Fran loses 90-some games but their pitching prevents them from losing 100+-I do not believe any of Oakland, Texas, and KC will be competitive but I also do not believe any will flirt with 100 losses

Mac knows his stuff......

 

[Eephus]

-Baltimore will lose 100+-I think there's a good chance Florida loses 100+-I think one of St Louis or Pittsburgh loses 100+, although them being in the same division may help them both not reach such a level of futility keeping them both in the 90-95 loss range-I think San Fran loses 90-some games but their pitching prevents them from losing 100+-I do not believe any of Oakland, Texas, and KC will be competitive but I also do not believe any will flirt with 100 losses

Mac knows his stuff......

It's really rare for there to be three 100 loss teams in a season. It hasn't happened since 1985 when Pittsburgh, Cleveland and SF lost 104, 102 and 100 respectively.SS Johnnie LeMaster played for all three of the teams that year :X

 

[pillowpants]

-Baltimore will lose 100+-I think there's a good chance Florida loses 100+-I think one of St Louis or Pittsburgh loses 100+, although them being in the same division may help them both not reach such a level of futility keeping them both in the 90-95 loss range-I think San Fran loses 90-some games but their pitching prevents them from losing 100+-I do not believe any of Oakland, Texas, and KC will be competitive but I also do not believe any will flirt with 100 losses

Mac knows his stuff......

It's really rare for there to be three 100 loss teams in a season. It hasn't happened since 1985 when Pittsburgh, Cleveland and SF lost 104, 102 and 100 respectively.SS Johnnie LeMaster played for all three of the teams that year

That is one hell of a hat trick!

 

[shadyridr]

Orioles have the best record in the AL

 

[Sinn Fein]

Detroit is about to implode - 100 losses possible

 

[BoomBoom]

It's gonna be the Giants and it's not even close.

 

[Tony Danza]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

That lineup card is uglier than Willie McGee

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Tigers?

 

[Your Mother]

Orioles have the best record in the AL

Don't forget that Zito still blows.

 

[Eephus]

Orioles have the best record in the AL

Don't forget that Zito still blows.

Bengie Molina - MVP

 

[Tom Servo]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

That lineup card is uglier than Willie McGee Jeffery Leonard

FIXED. McGee looks like Jessica Alba compared to Leonard.

 

[Your Mother]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

I thought the same thing but Cain, Lincecum, Zito make a heck of a top 3. And in that division with the weak offenses and good pitching staffs they should be able to win over 70 games IMO.BAL should be the worst team in baseball. Although a sleeper for worst team could be STL

Zito?I like Cain and Lincecum, but I think it's too easy to minimize the impact that Bonds had on their offense, even an over-the-hill Bonds. Their offense is now the worst in baseball. Their pen is horrible. There is really almost nothing to like about them. They don't even have a plethora of great young players coming up.

Ignoring the money aspect of Zito (which has no basis in this argument), you're telling me that a pitcher that threw 200 innings with a 1.35 WHIP and a .244 BAA is bad for a #3 starter? Dont get me wrong that was a HORRIBLE contract but hes a solid #3.

Tap.

 

[JaxBill]

Who is that team atop the NL East? Not that they'll be there that long, but so far the Marlins are at least competitive.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Still on pace for 100 losses:

Detroit 62-100

San Francisco 62-100

Texas 54-108

Washington 46-116

 

[MAC_32]

Who is that team atop the NL East? Not that they'll be there that long, but so far the Marlins are at least competitive.

Considering their level of pitching I am shocked, Burke Badenhop and Andrew Miller are the only two pitchers on that staff I have any faith in and both of them will struggle (MIller already has) at times this year.

 

[shadyridr]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

I thought the same thing but Cain, Lincecum, Zito make a heck of a top 3. And in that division with the weak offenses and good pitching staffs they should be able to win over 70 games IMO.BAL should be the worst team in baseball. Although a sleeper for worst team could be STL

Zito?I like Cain and Lincecum, but I think it's too easy to minimize the impact that Bonds had on their offense, even an over-the-hill Bonds. Their offense is now the worst in baseball. Their pen is horrible. There is really almost nothing to like about them. They don't even have a plethora of great young players coming up.

Ignoring the money aspect of Zito (which has no basis in this argument), you're telling me that a pitcher that threw 200 innings with a 1.35 WHIP and a .244 BAA is bad for a #3 starter? Dont get me wrong that was a HORRIBLE contract but hes a solid #3.

Tap.

perspective my man. Hed be a solid #3 for the Yankees.

 

[culdeus]

If Texas loses a 100 game in this division this year I'll be done with this thing for good till Hicks is gone.

They won 70+ last year and arguably improved themselves in the offseason. Why are they a candidate for 100+ losses?

 

[commisholio]

The Padres won't lose 100, but they sure look bad in the first month of the season. That offense is almost as anemic as SF and the pitching, particularly the bullpen, is not as good as it has been in the recent past.

 

[MAC_32]

The Padres won't lose 100, but they sure look bad in the first month of the season. That offense is almost as anemic as SF and the pitching, particularly the bullpen, is not as good as it has been in the recent past.

Hasn't been as good? Peavy's an ace, Young started to come around last night, Maddux has mixed in one awful night with four good ones, Randy Wolf's been better than any other #4 I can think of, and Germano's only had the one blow up too. The starting staff has been good if not great. The bullpen's not been too sharp though, I'll give you that. Why they use Cla Meredith for more than one inning is beyond me, he's great in his 1st inning of work and non-roster worthy if he has to come out for more. Heath Bell and Thatcher will be fine, but it really looks like Hoffman's days are numbered.The lineup is awful and what will keep them from competing for the division title, I think they'll finish over 500 though.