Worst Team(s) in 2008 (1 Viewer)

[commisholio]

The Padres won't lose 100, but they sure look bad in the first month of the season. That offense is almost as anemic as SF and the pitching, particularly the bullpen, is not as good as it has been in the recent past.

Hasn't been as good? Peavy's an ace, Young started to come around last night, Maddux has mixed in one awful night with four good ones, Randy Wolf's been better than any other #4 I can think of, and Germano's only had the one blow up too. The starting staff has been good if not great. The bullpen's not been too sharp though, I'll give you that. Why they use Cla Meredith for more than one inning is beyond me, he's great in his 1st inning of work and non-roster worthy if he has to come out for more. Heath Bell and Thatcher will be fine, but it really looks like Hoffman's days are numbered.The lineup is awful and what will keep them from competing for the division title, I think they'll finish over 500 though.

Fair enough. Maybe that's overstated as far as the starters go (I still don't like Randy Wolf - he will implode at some point - and Chris Young has not been that good going back to the second half of last year), but the bullpen has been a real strength the past couple of years and it seems very mortal to me at this point.

 

[Unlucky]

Still amazed that the Orioles and Marlins have been winning games.

The Giants seem to be OK. If only Lincicum (sp?) could pitch every game.

I'm now leaning towards the Pirates losing 100. As things unravel early, this team could implode, Bay and any other older players will be traded.

 

[boom king]

Still amazed that the Orioles and Marlins have been winning games.The Giants seem to be OK. If only Lincicum (sp?) could pitch every game. I'm now leaning towards the Pirates losing 100. As things unravel early, this team could implode, Bay and any other older players will be traded.

they have been selling off their team for years, im suprised they dont have any talent stockpiled...

 

[MAC_32]

The Padres won't lose 100, but they sure look bad in the first month of the season. That offense is almost as anemic as SF and the pitching, particularly the bullpen, is not as good as it has been in the recent past.

Hasn't been as good? Peavy's an ace, Young started to come around last night, Maddux has mixed in one awful night with four good ones, Randy Wolf's been better than any other #4 I can think of, and Germano's only had the one blow up too. The starting staff has been good if not great. The bullpen's not been too sharp though, I'll give you that. Why they use Cla Meredith for more than one inning is beyond me, he's great in his 1st inning of work and non-roster worthy if he has to come out for more. Heath Bell and Thatcher will be fine, but it really looks like Hoffman's days are numbered.The lineup is awful and what will keep them from competing for the division title, I think they'll finish over 500 though.

Fair enough. Maybe that's overstated as far as the starters go (I still don't like Randy Wolf - he will implode at some point - and Chris Young has not been that good going back to the second half of last year), but the bullpen has been a real strength the past couple of years and it seems very mortal to me at this point.

FWIW, Young's poor performances last year directly coincided with his oblique problem. the oblique's reportedly fine (knock on wood), I expect first half Young this season. Now if only he could pitch more of his games at Petco...

 

[JaxBill]

marlins 23-14 - best winning pct in basbeall.

About a win per million on their payroll.

Or one win for every one of their fans.

 

[Unlucky]

Bump to see how we did. I suck.

Interesting that nobody mentioned the Nationals or Mariners. Those were the two to top 100 losses.

 

[Eephus]

Bump to see how we did. I suck. Interesting that nobody mentioned the Nationals or Mariners. Those were the two to top 100 losses.

The Nationals in retrospect should have been an obvious call. They started off with nothing but a new ballpark and had a lot of injuries from there.The Mariners had some offensive holes but King Felix and Bedard were the best 1-2 combination in the AL.

 

[MAC_32]

Based completely off memory, I'm pretty sure I failed. miserably. I thought the M's were over rated, but 100+ losses over rated? Wow. The Nats? I thought they and the Rays were going to turn a corner this year, as it turns out the Rays stole the Nats' thunder and left them simmering in the bottom again.

 

[MAC_32]

-Baltimore will lose 100+

They were saved by a pretty good first two months of the season

-I think there's a good chance Florida loses 100+

-I think one of St Louis or Pittsburgh loses 100+, although them being in the same division may help them both not reach such a level of futility keeping them both in the 90-95 loss range

I thought the pitching (and bullpen) would be bad but imagine what this team would have done if they had been just adequate. This team surprised many...the Pirates? Not so much.

-I think San Fran loses 90-some games but their pitching prevents them from losing 100+

-I do not believe any of Oakland, Texas, and KC will be competitive but I also do not believe any will flirt with 100 losses

Looks like I did better than I thought, I'm still in awe about the Fish. Depending what they do in the next two months they could be scary in 09...

 

[MAC_32]

Marlins all depend on the health of Mitre and Olsen. They've got nobody behind those two. Mitre was the Marlin's best SP through the first half of the year. He really slowed down after the innings piled up.They still have Hanley Ramirez and Uggla up the middle. Who knows if Cameron Maybin will hit enough to use his speed. I could see them losing 95 but I think they have enough young talent to avoid losing 100. I also think people overestimate the loss of Dontrelle. He was either gonna strike out a dozen or get torched for 7 runs.

Whoever the Fish find to fill Willis' 200+ innings will be much worse than Willis was.

Umm...can I have this post back?

 

[Your Mother]

I would be absolutely stunned if the Giants arent the worst team in baseball.

I thought the same thing but Cain, Lincecum, Zito make a heck of a top 3. And in that division with the weak offenses and good pitching staffs they should be able to win over 70 games IMO.BAL should be the worst team in baseball. Although a sleeper for worst team could be STL

Zito?I like Cain and Lincecum, but I think it's too easy to minimize the impact that Bonds had on their offense, even an over-the-hill Bonds. Their offense is now the worst in baseball. Their pen is horrible. There is really almost nothing to like about them. They don't even have a plethora of great young players coming up.

Ignoring the money aspect of Zito (which has no basis in this argument), you're telling me that a pitcher that threw 200 innings with a 1.35 WHIP and a .244 BAA is bad for a #3 starter? Dont get me wrong that was a HORRIBLE contract but hes a solid #3.

I am ignoring the money aspect.The only useful starting pitchers with a K/BB under 2 are extreme-groundball types.He walks a lot of guys, throws a lot of pitches, doesn't get that many K's anymore, and he's GB/FB neutral. The only thing going for him is that he plays in a park that covers up a world of hurt, and that helps the opposition just as much as it helps him, obviously.Zito stinks.

word.

 

[commisholio]

The Padres won't lose 100, but they sure look bad in the first month of the season. That offense is almost as anemic as SF and the pitching, particularly the bullpen, is not as good as it has been in the recent past.

Not like this was any great insight, but it turned out pretty well.

 

[Tom Servo]

Marlins all depend on the health of Mitre and Olsen. They've got nobody behind those two. Mitre was the Marlin's best SP through the first half of the year. He really slowed down after the innings piled up.They still have Hanley Ramirez and Uggla up the middle. Who knows if Cameron Maybin will hit enough to use his speed. I could see them losing 95 but I think they have enough young talent to avoid losing 100. I also think people overestimate the loss of Dontrelle. He was either gonna strike out a dozen or get torched for 7 runs.

Whoever the Fish find to fill Willis' 200+ innings will be much worse than Willis was.

Umm...can I have this post back?

Yes.