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WR Jack Bech, LV (1 Viewer)
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sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
This is the next WR I want after Hunter-Tet-Egbuka-Burden-Golden
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
He went 2.7 in my 1QB .5ppr Contract Salary league, a dynasty draft concept.
I have heard and believe Chip Kelly sees him as his Egbuka in this offense, and they do play a lot alike.
I have heard and believe Chip Kelly sees him as his Egbuka in this offense, and they do play a lot alike.
sheerterror
Footballguy
Literally just made that same pickBech at 2.6 in an FFPC 1QB TEP league. And I’m a Raiders fan. Im used to avoiding raiders players for the past couple of decades.
Giddy up!
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I'm seeing Beck inch closer and closer to the 1st round in my drafts. Ready made WR drafted by a team with new veteran QB and lacks a WR1... sign me up, for the right price.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Just saw Beck get drafted over Golden
JohnnyU
Footballguy
It’s Bech, but thanks for that information
sheerterror
Footballguy
I actually went Bech and Royals back to back 2.6 2.7 (need WR way more than RB in this league)
I have 2.12 and 3.1 and will be taking Noel if he is still there.
jtd13
Footballguy
To me Bech is in that Harris/Burden/Higgins tier (and I'd have Golden in that tier as well, but that might not be consensus), and the other 2 are the next tier with guys like Williams. So easily Bech for me.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The thing about Noel that I don’t like is that he’s no better than WR3 for his own team most likely.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
I took Golden over Bech, but if Golden had been gone I was considering him over Burden.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Bech is really a WR3 on his team too.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
IMO Williams isn’t a good pick until the 3rd round.
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ffmail4me
Footballguy
I think that was the consensus earlier on and its starting to change. This kid flew under the radar and again probably has less competition in front of him (and a great young QB) out of all the day 2 or day 3 WRs IMO.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yes, I've been watching a lot of Kyle Williams hype from fantasy podcasters too, but I wouldn't take him over guys like Bech and several others. He has gone 2.10 and 2.11 in a couple of my straight dynasty leagues at quick glance, and that is fine, I suppose, but I think I would take guys like Bech, Skatebo, Noel, Tuten, Royals, Ward (1qb league), and Mason Taylor over him. Just my opinion of course.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
I think Chip Kelly sees Bech as his Egbuka in the offense. I watched a lot of Egbuka and Bech. They both do a lot of work against zone coverages. Their play is similar, and both have excellent hands. Egbuka has more suddenness in his game with his routes, but the routes and mannerisms are very similar if you watch Bech and Egbuka side by side.
It might take some time, or he may come out strong in his rookie year. I see him more as a big slot possession guy with upside who should only get better with time. He has to learn the offense and should not have any issues with that, but he is the clear number two in the offense for the future. Meyers is not going away this season and lives in the same areas in the offense, so this is a rookie-year concern.
Bech's best work is against the zone, which is Ebuka's strength. Man-to-man coverage will be the question with Bech; however, he has enough size and speed that I do not see a long-term issue with it. This is a Chip Kelly guy, and he will get targets. I think year two will be his breakout, but that could come sooner. He is a good player for this offense as a future two.
It might take some time, or he may come out strong in his rookie year. I see him more as a big slot possession guy with upside who should only get better with time. He has to learn the offense and should not have any issues with that, but he is the clear number two in the offense for the future. Meyers is not going away this season and lives in the same areas in the offense, so this is a rookie-year concern.
Bech's best work is against the zone, which is Ebuka's strength. Man-to-man coverage will be the question with Bech; however, he has enough size and speed that I do not see a long-term issue with it. This is a Chip Kelly guy, and he will get targets. I think year two will be his breakout, but that could come sooner. He is a good player for this offense as a future two.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
In week 1 yes. And probably most of the first half of the season. But he can easily overtake Jakobi Meyers by the end of the season though I acknowledge Bowers is the true WR1. And not to be underestimated is the possibility Jeanty really eats a ton of targets too.
A couple other competing notes: Chip Kelly runs a gazillion plays per game so there is theoretically room for many mouths to be fed. Counterpoint: he's effing nuts and already shown he doesn't belong in the NFL why is he back? And he's working with Pete Carroll as HC wow what is gonna happen here? Seems really really wild I hope they get Hard Knocks.
Anyway I'm sure it's a coin flip at best that he hits and just as likely or more that he busts but I do think the opportunity is right there for the taking in what could be a high octane offense if not this year then next.
Could be but I had a different thought and was thinking along the lines of Chip's new Jordan Matthews.
Matthews converted to TE later in his career and Beech converted from hybrid WR/TE to WR. Back in Philly Chip said bigger people beat up little people. He likes size a great deal and in Bech I think he saw his power slot, new Matthews.
Different dynamic however vs what he had in Philly in trying to predict roles/targets.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
As a Raider fan, I would love Bech to overtake Meyers but Meyers continues to be underestimated. He has had 2 solid seasons back-to-back with 0 drops last season and finding success with average QBs at best.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Hoping he becomes the 1B to Bowser's 1A by the middle to end of his rookie season. Dude gives major Puka shell vibes with his physical profile and style of play. With their new commitment to running the ball, I could see Bech staying on the field a lot due to his blocking ability. You don't get fantasy points for serving pancakes, but field time hopefully correlates to targets for him and his fantasy owners.
They also drafted a near-perfect compliment in Donte Thornton, who will be putting pressure on D's up top, opening up the underneath for the Killer Bees.
They also drafted a near-perfect compliment in Donte Thornton, who will be putting pressure on D's up top, opening up the underneath for the Killer Bees.
Chaka
Footballguy
That's... generous.
oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
I was thinking the same. But, for the Raiders sake, I hope Chip has zero say on personnel.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
I'm sure he has some input on what he wants to run and the offense.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I have growing intrigue with this guy. From his tragedy of losing his brother to his fearless play on the field. I will reach for him a little in the draft, these are the kind of guys that make plays on Sunday. If he can fine tune his routes, we may be looking at a big surprise producer. He has Bowers to contend with, but I am putting my chips in.
eighsse2
Footballguy
He's a weird one to me. (Context: I don't pay much attention to college at all, I just read names and lists all throughout the year to get familiar with fantasy prospects.) I didn't think I had ever heard the guy's name before in any of the dynasty prospect lists, until I started looking at full prospect lists in preparation for the FBG draft that we did a while back. But on those lists I kept seeing him pop up around, I don't know, 7th to 12th among WR, if I had to guess? Was shocked to see a name so high that I'd never heard of. What was keeping him out of the fantasy conversation? Or was he being talked about, and he was just in my blind spot?
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Watch some of his highlights and let me know what you think. I know highlights are the not the whole story, but this kid is a football player. I will add that I felt a similar way about Luke McCaffrey, although I think based on Luke being so new to the position it will take a few seasons to see if he can make an impact, I think Bech is more seasoned and has a chance to improve into a starting receiver much quicker.
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eighsse2
Footballguy
Just watched a 2024 highlight video. I'm not great at watching football, but he looks good. I guess everyone looks good in "highlights". But the fact that the highlights exist says something. Looks like a tight end in the short game, but catches deep balls too. Most importantly, I now know his last name is pronounced "besh".
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
He has impressive physicality (19 reps in bench, so pretty strong). Obviously these big slot projected guys need the right fit to be productive, but he played inside and outside which gives him a chance to move around a bit. I am always intrigued by guys who on film seem to be giving 100% with each opportunity, and his film pops out to me as one of those guys. He is driven and by all accounts a hard worker at his craft, just one of those guys that surpass his projection imo.
"I definitely like breaking down the guys like Puka [Nacua] just how he uses his body to get open. He doesn't dance around a whole lot, he attacks the leverage of the body, maybe give him a one-two or something like that. But he uses big, physical presence, his physical ability to get open," Bech told reporters during rookie minicamp.
"And the different guys like [Cooper] Kupp, just the way he understands the game, the nuance of the game, which is something I'm always going to strive to get better at each and every day for my whole career. Then just different guys who run routes, some of the best route runners in the league, people like Amari Cooper and Justin Jefferson. And Coach Chris Beatty does a great job about that, showing you a bunch of people's games. So, you can kind of just pick from people and take what you like, kind of just mimic their game a little bit."
ZADO
Footballguy
You tryin` to trip up the positive vibe we got goin on?
