uhhh... what?At a minimum, Jefferson is going to be a WR24-36 in fantasy out of the gate. Not bad.
I see a QB who is going to throw for at least 3600 yards and 25 TDs +. I see one stud receiver. But it seems likely to me that after Theilein and Cook, Jefferson is the third most targeted receiver. Unless he is a bust, it is hard to see him not getting at least 70/800/5. Who else is going to catch the ball for MN?Deamon said:uhhh... what?
You think he's a top 30 fantasy WR at minimum right away?!
I'd have done the same. I'm high on Jefferson. He seems pro-ready and landed in a steady offense. There's an immediate opportunity for targets with an established WR1 to keep the heat off. Thielen is at the tail end of his prime so Jefferson should be able to ease into the WR1 role there.Well, I'm now an owner. The top five RBs and Lamb went off the board in front of me so was faced with a tough choice of the rest. Went with Jefferson due to his all round game and the situation he has landed in where he has a direct route to get on the field immediately
I particularly loved this part:
“There was another clip where he had an inside fade, and he set it up and just beat the guy. I know you ran a good 40 and things like that, but to me, a 40, throw it out the window. If you run under a 4.6, you know, whatever, that’s good.
really hoping he falls to 1.11 for meSo excited to get him at 1.12 in my PPR league. Just like I was to get AJ Brown at 1.09 last year.
It seem 1.8 is his designated slot.really hoping he falls to 1.11 for me
It does. I'm really excited I was able to get him at 1.12 twice.It seem 1.8 is his designated slot.
Makes sense but I did see him go 1.09. Shockingly, Michael Pittman was taken at 8.It seem 1.8 is his designated slot.
I'm praying that he falls that far but I don't think the guys in my league are going to allow that to happen as I sit 1.10 waiting getting my hopes up only to see it crushed by my arch enemy who's picking one spot ahead of me.It does. I'm really excited I was able to get him at 1.12 twice.
In the few hundred FFPC drafts that went this past week, last I checked, by a small margin Vaughn was rookie 1.8 and Jefferson next. I'm sure that will change in different formats.It seem 1.8 is his designated slot.
I don’t disagree and think he is a great value in the back half of the first round in rookie drafts. The only curiosity I have is how much time will he man the slot as that is where he did his damage in college.I think this time next year, Jefferson is the most valuable WR from this class. Keep seeing jack of all trades, master of none in a bunch of places...I just see a versatile receiver ready to produce from the jump.
Landing spot is sneaky good. Cousins LOVES throwing intermediate between the hashmarks. The perception is they are too run heavy to support Thielan and Jefferson, but i see a funnel offense that has three main weapons. IMO Vikings are one of the most straight forward blueprints to fantasy points in the league.
I made a pretty crazy trade in one league to snag him. Very happy to have landed him in two others at a more palatable cost.
He was drafted ahead of Lamb? Interesting. If I have the choice between Lamb and Jefferson when I pick at 1.7 in mine I will scoop Lamb as well.Hankmoody said:He went 1.05 in mine. I happily scooped up Lamb at 7.
I'd like to hear from someone that has watched more of him and of LSU in general, but I thought I had heard that he played successfully out wide earlier in his college career and *then* started dominating the slot. The argument being that he can play anywhere and that they moved him to slot to accommodate other WRs coming up who needed to go outside. I've seen other blurbs that talked about how he is being mislabeled as just a slot guy.I don’t disagree and think he is a great value in the back half of the first round in rookie drafts. The only curiosity I have is how much time will he man the slot as that is where he did his damage in college.
I'm an LSU fan so happy to chime in on this part. Jefferson led the team in receiving in 2018 (54-875-6) and then was moved to the slot for 2019. Terrance Marshall (a 5-star recruit in 2017) took the outside spot opposite Chase. It looks like SI did an article just last week that includes some analysis on Jefferson as capable of being an outside receiver. That would jibe with him leading the team in receiving in 2018. I wrote about this in more detail in the Burrow thread, but the context for LSU's dramatic offensive improvement is important. Les Miles was fired because he refused to modernize the offense. In 2018 Steve Ensminger was promoted to OC and ran a similarly conservative/antiquated offense (Ensminger was the TEs coach under Miles). After we scored zero points agains Alabama, Orgeron made the move to get Brady and then we saw the fireworks. Long way of saying that going 54-875-6 from the outside in that 2018 offense is better than it looks on paper. Getting replaced outside by a 5-star player also isn't anything to ding him over. It seems clear that Brady saw Jefferson as especially dangerous out of the slot, and it worked, but I think he has a pretty well rounded game.I'd like to hear from someone that has watched more of him and of LSU in general, but I thought I had heard that he played successfully out wide earlier in his college career and *then* started dominating the slot. The argument being that he can play anywhere and that they moved him to slot to accommodate other WRs coming up who needed to go outside. I've seen other blurbs that talked about how he is being mislabeled as just a slot guy.
Yeah looking for him or Reagor at 1.10. If they’re both gone, might have to settle for Ruggs.I'm praying that he falls that far but I don't think the guys in my league are going to allow that to happen as I sit 1.10 waiting getting my hopes up only to see it crushed by my arch enemy who's picking one spot ahead of me.
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https://twitter.com/angelo_fantasy/status/1264611410321059841?s=21 (click the link for the full Twitter thread)AngeloFF @angelo_fantasy
'Why Justin Jefferson?'
During the 2020 NFL Combine Jefferson also turned some heads with surprising athletic measurables, but still some believe Jefferson is not a multi-dimensional player in terms of position versatility.
There is much more to Jefferson than meets the eye.
https://twitter.com/danielhousenfl/status/1265712089588330496?s=21Daniel House @DanielHouseNFL
Justin Jefferson's body control and contested catch skills are so impressive. He can adjust on a dime, get position and track the football.
I'm excited to see him run over routes and crossers in Gary Kubiak's offense. His YAC skills will be a weapon, too. #Vikings
Adam Thielen missed basically 8 games last year and the number of passing attempts was lower than I think it otherwise would be with him healthy.
I find myself disagreeing with you often and this is no exception. I’d 100% take the field in this scenarioVandelay said:Are people still using slot responsibilities as some sort of negative against a receiver for fantasy purposes? I WANT my guy to get some slot duties. You get a nickle corner and the whole field is open.
If I had to bet on who the most valuable rookie WR is this time next year, I'd put 85% of my money on Jefferson. Cousins is going to latch like a newborn baby.
Cool, I'd expect most would.I find myself disagreeing with you often and this is no exception. I’d 100% take the field in this scenario
Except he said if you *had to bet* on who the most valuable (single) rookie WR is. The field isn't really a choice the way he phrased that. I also will take Jefferson if I *had to bet one* but otherwise of course the field is a safer bet.I find myself disagreeing with you often and this is no exception. I’d 100% take the field in this scenario
Speaking Wednesday, Vikings OC Gary Kubiak said first-round WR Justin Jefferson will "move inside [to the slot] quite a bit."
Bisi Johnson was the Vikings' lightly-used slot wideout last season, kicking inside 38.2% of the time, but Adam Thielen was also inside quite a bit at a 32% clip. Jefferson was LSU's full-time slot man in 2019, running 78% of his routes inside, showing incredible route-running ability and reliable hands while winning on crossers, ins, and outs. With Jefferson in the fold, it likely means Thielen will be playing outside more with Stefon Diggs now out of town. The Vikings still figure to primarily use two-wide, two-TE, and two-RB sets as their base offense.
SOURCE: Chad Graff on Twitter
Jun 17, 2020, 12:55 PM ET
Vikings signed first-round WR Justin Jefferson to a four-year $13.122 million contract.
Jefferson was selected with the first-round pick the Vikings received from the Bills in the Stefon Diggs trade. With 110 available targets heading into the season, there is plenty of opportunity for Jefferson to emerge as the best pass catcher opposite Adam Thielen on the roster, since his main competition features Tajae Sharpe and Bisi Johnson. Jefferson dominated out of the slot last season at LSU, where 90 percent of his snaps and receptions originated from. Yet the Vikings ran 11 personnel, three reciever sets, at the lowest rate in the NFL last season, just 25 percent of the time. Therefore, Jefferson might be asked to win as an outside pass catcher during his rookie season, unless Gary Kubiak shifts the Vikings' style.
SOURCE: Field Yates on Twitter
Jul 22, 2020, 11:20 AM ET
Vikings offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak said Justin Jefferson is "exactly what we drafted."
Andrew Krammer added that Jefferson was "running with the 2's for now" but Kubiak's comments indicate Jefferson should have no problem becoming a starter. The Vikings drafted Jefferson with the No. 22 overall pick they acquired by trading Stefon Diggs to the Bills. Jefferson is expected to see a lot of work from the slot in his rookie season. He played in the slot for 90 percent of his snaps at LSU last year and set the school record for receptions (111). Jefferson's biggest competition for the job could be Olabisi Johnson, who played a third of his snaps from the slot in Minnesota last year. He recorded 294 yards over 13 games.
SOURCE: Andrew Krammer on Twitter
Aug 16, 2020, 2:48 PM ET
The Athletic's Chad Graff reports Vikings rookie WR Justin Jefferson is "the clear No. 3 option" behind Adam Thielen and Bisi Johnson at practice.
Initial expectations were Jefferson would open the year across from Thielen as the team's No. 2 receiver, but the No. 22 overall pick reportedly "hasn’t shined against the second-team defense quite as much as you’d expect." That's obviously notable since the Vikings utilized the second-highest rate of 12 personnel (one running back, two tight ends) as their base offense last year and are fully expected to continue that approach with Gary Kubiak engineering play-calling duties. Jefferson is clearly being overvalued at his current ADP as the WR53 if he opens the year as Minnesota's third receiver.
SOURCE: Chad Graff on Twitter
Aug 21, 2020, 9:51 AM ET