WR Martavis Bryant, WAS (2 Viewers)

[Futz]

He's shaping up as a really good play @ ATL. The lack of pass rush should allow for Ben to take some shots deep. Who's playing Martavis this week and over who?

.5ppr WR/TE only league

I'm tempted over Ingram @ Chicago in a flex.

I'm debating if he's a good play or not this week. Will he get his opportunities or will LeVeon Bell and Antonio Brown just bogart and dominate against this crappy D?

Well there's no doubt he's the #3 at minimum in the Pittsburgh pecking order on any given week. The great thing about playing ATL is that they are capable of putting up points (Just ask GB) so no team playing them can take the foot off the peddle. Pittsburgh is similar in that they don't have a good enough defense to play it too conservatively. I expect this to be a high scoring game.

I think his floor is 4-60 and a possible huge blow up game on the other end.

 

[Cheesedawg]

He's shaping up as a really good play @ ATL. The lack of pass rush should allow for Ben to take some shots deep. Who's playing Martavis this week and over who?

.5ppr WR/TE only league

I'm tempted over Ingram @ Chicago in a flex.

I'm playing him over Sanu and M.Lee.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Weighing him vs. Joique Bell in PPR

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

But take away the long td's and he doesn't have any long td's

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

He's WR #22 since catching his first pass. How is this even a question?

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

I just need him to do it for two more games lol

 

[Futz]

He's WR #22 since catching his first pass. How is this even a question?

I think his inconsistency is a concern. 2 of the last 3 games he put up less than 3 points in my .5 ppr league. He's a bit of an all or nothing play at this stage of his career. He may be all world gifted but he gets low percentage type of targets down the field. Having said that, I think ATL is exactly the type of team you play him against.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

He's WR #22 since catching his first pass. How is this even a question?

I think his inconsistency is a concern. 2 of the last 3 games he put up less than 3 points in my .5 ppr league. He's a bit of an all or nothing play at this stage of his career. He may be all world gifted but he gets low percentage type of targets down the field. Having said that, I think ATL is exactly the type of team you play him against.

Yeah, he's boom or bust. But the boom helps you as much as the bust hurts you, and most RB2/WR3 types are boom or bust.

 

[lod01]

He's either caught a TD pass or had an opportunity to catch a TD pass in the EZ in every game.

 

[Sabertooth]

I am probably starting him over Josh Gordon this week. Only the entire season on the line.

 

[Futz]

I am probably starting him over Josh Gordon this week. Only the entire season on the line.

I'd be concerned with Manziel in there as well. That seems like a bigger gamble.

My .5ppr league awards bonus points on the distance of the TD as well. That certainly adds to Bryant's value. I'm considering him over Ingram @ Chicago on MNF. Thoughts?

 

[Team Smokin']

I am probably starting him over Josh Gordon this week. Only the entire season on the line.

I'd be concerned with Manziel in there as well. That seems like a bigger gamble.

My .5ppr league awards bonus points on the distance of the TD as well. That certainly adds to Bryant's value. I'm considering him over Ingram @ Chicago on MNF. Thoughts?

Deep breath on that one. You'd think Ingram...

Entire season hinges on playing Gordon or not, him performing or not? Crazy thoughts, but I have had them as well. Playing Gordon or guys likes M Bryant or J Matthews?

 

[RamMan]

Considering Bryant over G. Tate as my WR3....we'll see.

 

[Jack White]

Playing against Big Ben. Starting him over Brandon Marshall (glad that decision was made for me).

Obviously, but what does playing against Ben have to do with it?

 

[Jack White]

I am probably starting him over Josh Gordon this week. Only the entire season on the line.

I'd be concerned with Manziel in there as well. That seems like a bigger gamble.

My .5ppr league awards bonus points on the distance of the TD as well. That certainly adds to Bryant's value. I'm considering him over Ingram @ Chicago on MNF. Thoughts?

I like that call. Martavis has more long-TD upside (I got 20.4 points for his TD last week).

Plus, the Bears have done OK lately against the run, but their pass defense is abdominal. Obviously, the wild card is goal line carries for Ingram.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I am probably starting him over Josh Gordon this week. Only the entire season on the line.

I'd be concerned with Manziel in there as well. That seems like a bigger gamble.

My .5ppr league awards bonus points on the distance of the TD as well. That certainly adds to Bryant's value. I'm considering him over Ingram @ Chicago on MNF. Thoughts?

I like that call. Martavis has more long-TD upside (I got 20.4 points for his TD last week).

Plus, the Bears have done OK lately against the run, but their pass defense is abdominal.

more specifically, lower rear abdominal

 

[Insein]

I am probably starting him over Josh Gordon this week. Only the entire season on the line.

I'd be concerned with Manziel in there as well. That seems like a bigger gamble.My .5ppr league awards bonus points on the distance of the TD as well. That certainly adds to Bryant's value. I'm considering him over Ingram @ Chicago on MNF. Thoughts?

I like that call. Martavis has more long-TD upside (I got 20.4 points for his TD last week).

Plus, the Bears have done OK lately against the run, but their pass defense is abdominal.

more specifically, lower rear abdominal

I think he meant they're not good in crunch time.

 

[lod01]

Playing against Big Ben. Starting him over Brandon Marshall (glad that decision was made for me).

Obviously, but what does playing against Ben have to do with it?

Cancellation. Anytime I can cancel out some QB points with a WR, I take it, especially when its in a league that rewards long TDs.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Can't start him over Hopkins this week with Andre out since he relies too much on a td.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Just picked him up off waivers, and tempted to start him over Charles Johnson.

 

[Gvindy]

Vegas sees a very high scoring game, so do I. Starting over Jarvis Landry non PPR.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Vegas sees a very high scoring game, so do I. Starting over Jarvis Landry non PPR.

That's an easy call. Landry is scheduled for Revis Island.

 

[Gvindy]

Vegas sees a very high scoring game, so do I. Starting over Jarvis Landry non PPR.

That's an easy call. Landry is scheduled for Revis Island.

I wondered if it was him or Wallace with Revis, but NE secondary is solid all the way around.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Vegas sees a very high scoring game, so do I. Starting over Jarvis Landry non PPR.

That's an easy call. Landry is scheduled for Revis Island.

maybe not --- I think landry's mostly in the slot, so they might just have arrington on him and put revis on wallace, or play more zone.

 

[Futz]

Interesting read on CBS. I'm leaning towards starting him but this doesn't help. I know he's getting red zone targets but why is he still losing all these plays to Lance Moore and Wheaton?

Martavis Bryant tough to rely on in Week 15

by Chris Towers | CBSSports.com
(18 hrs ago) Steelers wide receiver Martavis Bryant made the most of his chances in Week 14, but he was still third among the team's wide receivers in snaps in the win over the Bengals.Bryant played 24 snaps, just two more than Lance Moore, who had just one catch. Bryant was second on the team with 109 yards, the majority of which came on a 94-yard touchdown, however, he played 17 fewer snaps than Markus Wheaton, who was second among the team's receivers in that regard.

Bryant's upside is incredible, given his big-play ability. However, if he doesn't hit on a long touchdown, it's awfully hard to rely on him, given his role. The Steelers have a great matchup on the way in Week 15 against the Falcons, but Antonio Brown is the only player with a consistent enough role to feel comfortable relying on.

 

[steelers1080]

Interesting read on CBS. I'm leaning towards starting him but this doesn't help. I know he's getting red zone targets but why is he still losing all these plays to Lance Moore and Wheaton?

Martavis Bryant tough to rely on in Week 15

by Chris Towers | CBSSports.com(18 hrs ago) Steelers wide receiver Martavis Bryant made the most of his chances in Week 14, but he was still third among the team's wide receivers in snaps in the win over the Bengals.

Bryant played 24 snaps, just two more than Lance Moore, who had just one catch. Bryant was second on the team with 109 yards, the majority of which came on a 94-yard touchdown, however, he played 17 fewer snaps than Markus Wheaton, who was second among the team's receivers in that regard.

Bryant's upside is incredible, given his big-play ability. However, if he doesn't hit on a long touchdown, it's awfully hard to rely on him, given his role. The Steelers have a great matchup on the way in Week 15 against the Falcons, but Antonio Brown is the only player with a consistent enough role to feel comfortable relying on.

He's still learning the offense and doesn't know 100% of the routes yet. It was reported that he's learned about 9 of the different route trees they run as of a few weeks ago. Wheaton could be more versatile in his route running ability and offer more in certain situations. As a Bryant fantasy owner it's annoying, but as a Steelers fan Wheaton has been improving steadily this year. And Bryant does have a number of bad drops as well...

 

[Futz]

Interesting read on CBS. I'm leaning towards starting him but this doesn't help. I know he's getting red zone targets but why is he still losing all these plays to Lance Moore and Wheaton?

Martavis Bryant tough to rely on in Week 15

by Chris Towers | CBSSports.com(18 hrs ago) Steelers wide receiver Martavis Bryant made the most of his chances in Week 14, but he was still third among the team's wide receivers in snaps in the win over the Bengals.

Bryant played 24 snaps, just two more than Lance Moore, who had just one catch. Bryant was second on the team with 109 yards, the majority of which came on a 94-yard touchdown, however, he played 17 fewer snaps than Markus Wheaton, who was second among the team's receivers in that regard.

Bryant's upside is incredible, given his big-play ability. However, if he doesn't hit on a long touchdown, it's awfully hard to rely on him, given his role. The Steelers have a great matchup on the way in Week 15 against the Falcons, but Antonio Brown is the only player with a consistent enough role to feel comfortable relying on.

He's still learning the offense and doesn't know 100% of the routes yet. It was reported that he's learned about 9 of the different route trees they run as of a few weeks ago. Wheaton could be more versatile in his route running ability and offer more in certain situations. As a Bryant fantasy owner it's annoying, but as a Steelers fan Wheaton has been improving steadily this year. And Bryant does have a number of bad drops as well...

Thanks for the insight. He certainly passes the eyeball test and I want to target him in the offseason in a dynasty league after the flash of the season subsides. He reminds me of an unpolished Randy Moss.

 

[Jack White]

Playing against Big Ben. Starting him over Brandon Marshall (glad that decision was made for me).

Obviously, but what does playing against Ben have to do with it?

Cancellation. Anytime I can cancel out some QB points with a WR, I take it, especially when its in a league that rewards long TDs.

That is a myth. There is no such thing as "cancellation."

Play your best players, or the ones you think will score the most.

Let's say, for example, you have a choice between Martavis and Moncrief (again, just an example; substitute any receiver you want).

You choose Martavis because your opponent has Ben. He goes 4/60/1 for 16 PPR points.

Meanwhile, Moncrief goes 6/100/1 for 22 PPR points.

So much for your cancellation theory.

 

[Jack White]

Vegas sees a very high scoring game, so do I. Starting over Jarvis Landry non PPR.

That's an easy call. Landry is scheduled for Revis Island.

maybe not --- I think landry's mostly in the slot, so they might just have arrington on him and put revis on wallace, or play more zone.

Wallace had his best game of the year in the season opener on Revis Island.

If Revis does shadow a guy for most or all of the game, it's more likely to be Wallace.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Playing against Big Ben. Starting him over Brandon Marshall (glad that decision was made for me).

Obviously, but what does playing against Ben have to do with it?

Cancellation. Anytime I can cancel out some QB points with a WR, I take it, especially when its in a league that rewards long TDs.

That is a myth. There is no such thing as "cancellation."

Play your best players, or the ones you think will score the most.

Let's say, for example, you have a choice between Martavis and Moncrief (again, just an example; substitute any receiver you want).

You choose Martavis because your opponent has Ben. He goes 4/60/1 for 16 PPR points.

Meanwhile, Moncrief goes 6/100/1 for 22 PPR points.

So much for your cancellation theory.

ben throws for 5 td, 3 of which go to martavis, who finishes with 10/200/3, while moncrief gets a meager 3/20

cancellation theory confirmed!

 

[Jack White]

Interesting read on CBS. I'm leaning towards starting him but this doesn't help. I know he's getting red zone targets but why is he still losing all these plays to Lance Moore and Wheaton?

Martavis Bryant tough to rely on in Week 15

by Chris Towers | CBSSports.com(18 hrs ago) Steelers wide receiver Martavis Bryant made the most of his chances in Week 14, but he was still third among the team's wide receivers in snaps in the win over the Bengals.

Bryant played 24 snaps, just two more than Lance Moore, who had just one catch. Bryant was second on the team with 109 yards, the majority of which came on a 94-yard touchdown, however, he played 17 fewer snaps than Markus Wheaton, who was second among the team's receivers in that regard.

Bryant's upside is incredible, given his big-play ability. However, if he doesn't hit on a long touchdown, it's awfully hard to rely on him, given his role. The Steelers have a great matchup on the way in Week 15 against the Falcons, but Antonio Brown is the only player with a consistent enough role to feel comfortable relying on.

He's still learning the offense and doesn't know 100% of the routes yet. It was reported that he's learned about 9 of the different route trees they run as of a few weeks ago. Wheaton could be more versatile in his route running ability and offer more in certain situations. As a Bryant fantasy owner it's annoying, but as a Steelers fan Wheaton has been improving steadily this year. And Bryant does have a number of bad drops as well...

As always, it depends on your options.

But in the recent two-game stretch where he did little, he still had four end zone targets.

It's hard to sit a guy who has high TD potential, both in the red zone and on long passes.

 

[Jack White]

Playing against Big Ben. Starting him over Brandon Marshall (glad that decision was made for me).

Obviously, but what does playing against Ben have to do with it?

Cancellation. Anytime I can cancel out some QB points with a WR, I take it, especially when its in a league that rewards long TDs.

That is a myth. There is no such thing as "cancellation."

Play your best players, or the ones you think will score the most.

Let's say, for example, you have a choice between Martavis and Moncrief (again, just an example; substitute any receiver you want).

You choose Martavis because your opponent has Ben. He goes 4/60/1 for 16 PPR points.

Meanwhile, Moncrief goes 6/100/1 for 22 PPR points.

So much for your cancellation theory.

ben throws for 5 td, 3 of which go to martavis, who finishes with 10/200/3, while moncrief gets a meager 3/20

cancellation theory confirmed!

I think you just proved my point.

It doesn't matter what your opponent does, only your own guy(s).

Ben is going to score what he's going to score, no matter who you start.

You don't really believe in this "theory," do you?

 

[lod01]

if I have 2 guys that I believe are equal and a toss up as to who to start, I'm starting the guy that is the cancellation.

 

[Bayhawks]

Playing against Big Ben. Starting him over Brandon Marshall (glad that decision was made for me).

Obviously, but what does playing against Ben have to do with it?

Cancellation. Anytime I can cancel out some QB points with a WR, I take it, especially when its in a league that rewards long TDs.

That is a myth. There is no such thing as "cancellation."

Play your best players, or the ones you think will score the most.

Let's say, for example, you have a choice between Martavis and Moncrief (again, just an example; substitute any receiver you want).

You choose Martavis because your opponent has Ben. He goes 4/60/1 for 16 PPR points.

Meanwhile, Moncrief goes 6/100/1 for 22 PPR points.

So much for your cancellation theory.

ben throws for 5 td, 3 of which go to martavis, who finishes with 10/200/3, while moncrief gets a meager 3/20

cancellation theory confirmed!

That doesn't confirm any cancellation theory, what that confirms is that you think Bryant will score more than Moncrief.

If you had Bryant or Moncrief as options, and your opponent had Roethlisberger, would you start Bryant over Moncrief if you expected Moncrief to get 200/3 and Bryant to get 3/20, even if you also expected Roethslisberger to only throw for 150/0? No, because you'd be leaving a WR with more points on your bench.

The only reason I'd use the cancellation idea to make that decision is if I had Bryant and Moncrief projected with the same stats; otherwise, I'm going with the WR who I expect to score more.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Playing against Big Ben. Starting him over Brandon Marshall (glad that decision was made for me).

Obviously, but what does playing against Ben have to do with it?

Cancellation. Anytime I can cancel out some QB points with a WR, I take it, especially when its in a league that rewards long TDs.

That is a myth. There is no such thing as "cancellation."

Play your best players, or the ones you think will score the most.

Let's say, for example, you have a choice between Martavis and Moncrief (again, just an example; substitute any receiver you want).

You choose Martavis because your opponent has Ben. He goes 4/60/1 for 16 PPR points.

Meanwhile, Moncrief goes 6/100/1 for 22 PPR points.

So much for your cancellation theory.

ben throws for 5 td, 3 of which go to martavis, who finishes with 10/200/3, while moncrief gets a meager 3/20

cancellation theory confirmed!

I think you just proved my point.

It doesn't matter what your opponent does, only your own guy(s).

Ben is going to score what he's going to score, no matter who you start.

You don't really believe in this "theory," do you?

I keep an open mind to the approach

what you should understand is that the bulk of these million discussions about this go pretty much the same way, and really end up as a mess of people talking in all different directions about different things, using different terms with different definitions -- it's kind of pointless.

the bottomline is that usually the scullies need the end results to make their decisions, which is of course impossible to know beforehand by anyone.

this makes me very skeptical of their conclusions.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Playing against Big Ben. Starting him over Brandon Marshall (glad that decision was made for me).

Obviously, but what does playing against Ben have to do with it?

Cancellation. Anytime I can cancel out some QB points with a WR, I take it, especially when its in a league that rewards long TDs.

That is a myth. There is no such thing as "cancellation."

Play your best players, or the ones you think will score the most.

Let's say, for example, you have a choice between Martavis and Moncrief (again, just an example; substitute any receiver you want).

You choose Martavis because your opponent has Ben. He goes 4/60/1 for 16 PPR points.

Meanwhile, Moncrief goes 6/100/1 for 22 PPR points.

So much for your cancellation theory.

ben throws for 5 td, 3 of which go to martavis, who finishes with 10/200/3, while moncrief gets a meager 3/20

cancellation theory confirmed!

That doesn't confirm any cancellation theory, what that confirms is that you think Bryant will score more than Moncrief.

If you had Bryant or Moncrief as options, and your opponent had Roethlisberger, would you start Bryant over Moncrief if you expected Moncrief to get 200/3 and Bryant to get 3/20, even if you also expected Roethslisberger to only throw for 150/0? No, because you'd be leaving a WR with more points on your bench.

The only reason I'd use the cancellation idea to make that decision is if I had Bryant and Moncrief projected with the same stats; otherwise, I'm going with the WR who I expect to score more.

see, this is the kind of thinking that makes the cancellation opponents actually promote cancellation by looking so flawed in their denunciation of it.

you first claim all that matters is the points the various players end up scoring, then sum up by saying you might use it depending on what points they actually score.

what difference could it possibly make what points they score?

the points scored are the points scored, but in the back of your mind you are actually a mulder --- you want to believe.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

It's disappointing he can't get on the field more - the ultimate boom/bust WR3

 

[Sabertooth]

I am seriously considering him over Gordon. At least you have the track record of big games. Gordon seems to be getting worse.

 

[Bayhawks]

It's disappointing he can't get on the field more - the ultimate boom/bust WR3

I continue to think that next year he will be big; he should know more of the plays, and therefore not be restricted to certain plays, formations, and game situations. Also, if he gets more time to refine his technique (route-running, catching the ball w/hands, "my-ball" attitude), he'll be more formidable.

 

[Sabertooth]

FBG pretty low on him this weekend. 3/63 prediction.

 

[ratbast]

He's due. Im going for it over Mathews and Wallace.

 

[Faust]

Martavis Bryant, Cameron Heyward honored by Pittsburgh media:

http://espn.go.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/11588/martavis-bryant-cameron-heyward-honored-by-pittsburgh-media

 

[Faust]

What's in a number: Cincinnati Bengals-Pittsburgh Steelers preview:

http://espn.go.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/11607/whats-in-a-number-cincinnati-bengals-pittsburgh-steelers-preview

Excerpt:

20: Percentage of Steelers wide receiver Martavis Bryant's 25 catches that have covered at least 44 yards.

 

[lod01]

I thought he played one of his best games last night. He was catching the ball cleanly with his hands, which was always my concern. Had 2 shots for TDs again and that long ball was also a TD if he didn't get hung up with the defender.

 

[Zyphros]

I thought he played one of his best games last night. He was catching the ball cleanly with his hands, which was always my concern. Had 2 shots for TDs again and that long ball was also a TD if he didn't get hung up with the defender.

He showed promise. Looked as if he's grown since the beginning of the year and he stepped up with some of his plays while the offense was struggling.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Martavis Bryant - WR - Steelers

Steelers OC Todd Haley expects a second-year leap from WR Martavis Bryant.

Beat writer Mark Kaboly expects Bryant to be "given every opportunity" to unseat Markus Wheaton for the No. 2 job behind Antonio Brown. There's no denying Bryant has gobs more talent than Wheaton and a sky-high ceiling. "He is a guy we are going to work real hard throughout the offseason and, like all young players, he should make progress from year one to year two," said Haley. Bryant (6'4/211) is an elite red-zone option and has a chance to double his targets from his rookie season (48) after playing just 306 snaps. He's a high-upside WR3.

Source: Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

Mar 19 - 8:31 AM

 

[Run It Up]

Anyone move him lately? I recently acquired Antonio Brown which left me in a weird spot as Bryant is likely my WR3.

Been fielding offers for him, been seeing him valued as a mid first, best offer received has been the 2.05.

Comfortable owning both, just curious.

 

[cstu]

Anyone move him lately? I recently acquired Antonio Brown which left me in a weird spot as Bryant is likely my WR3.

Been fielding offers for him, been seeing him valued as a mid first, best offer received has been the 2.05.

Comfortable owning both, just curious.

Moved him and Jordy for DT.

 

[Andrew74]

I moved him, Sproles and 1.05 for 1.03+2.03. I also own A Brown.

 

[Boone22]

Was offered what I expect to be a late first in 2016. I turned it down.